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Just When you Thought it was Safer to Surf with IE

Discussion in 'Windows 7' started by Alias, Jan 25, 2010.

  1. Alias

    Alias Flightless Bird

    <http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9148138/Researcher_to_reveal_more_Internet_Explorer_problems>

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    Alias
     
  2. Frank

    Frank Flightless Bird

    Alias wrote:
    > <http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9148138/Researcher_to_reveal_more_Internet_Explorer_problems>
    >
    >


    Care to cite on e example of this happening?
    No?
    Oops!
     
  3. Alias

    Alias Flightless Bird

    Frank wrote:
    > Alias wrote:
    >> <http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9148138/Researcher_to_reveal_more_Internet_Explorer_problems>
    >>
    >>

    >
    > Care to cite on e example of this happening?
    > No?
    > Oops!


    It is cited in the article. MS acknowledges it and is working on a third
    "fix", Mr. Oops.

    --
    Alias
     
  4. Frank

    Frank Flightless Bird

    Alias wrote:
    > Frank wrote:
    >> Alias wrote:
    >>> <http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9148138/Researcher_to_reveal_more_Internet_Explorer_problems>
    >>>
    >>>

    >>
    >> Care to cite on e example of this happening?
    >> No?
    >> Oops!

    >
    > It is cited in the article.


    No it isn't. Not one case of this happening to anyone, anywhere at
    anytime has been documented.
    It is all theoretical.

    MS acknowledges it and is working on a third
    > "fix", Mr. Oops.


    Good for them.
     
  5. Alias

    Alias Flightless Bird

    Frank wrote:
    > Alias wrote:
    >> Frank wrote:
    >>> Alias wrote:
    >>>> <http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9148138/Researcher_to_reveal_more_Internet_Explorer_problems>
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>
    >>> Care to cite on e example of this happening?
    >>> No?
    >>> Oops!

    >>
    >> It is cited in the article.

    >
    > No it isn't. Not one case of this happening to anyone, anywhere at
    > anytime has been documented.
    > It is all theoretical.


    No, it's been tested and proved.

    >
    > MS acknowledges it and is working on a third
    >> "fix", Mr. Oops.

    >
    > Good for them.
    >


    Maybe the third time they'll get lucky. In the meantime, friends don't
    let friends use IE.

    --
    Alias
     
  6. Frank

    Frank Flightless Bird

    Alias wrote:
    > Frank wrote:
    >> Alias wrote:
    >>> Frank wrote:
    >>>> Alias wrote:
    >>>>> <http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9148138/Researcher_to_reveal_more_Internet_Explorer_problems>
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> Care to cite on e example of this happening?
    >>>> No?
    >>>> Oops!
    >>>
    >>> It is cited in the article.

    >>
    >> No it isn't. Not one case of this happening to anyone, anywhere at
    >> anytime has been documented.
    >> It is all theoretical.

    >
    > No, it's been tested and proved.


    Can't answer the question huh?
    Figures!
    >
    >>
    >> MS acknowledges it and is working on a third
    >>> "fix", Mr. Oops.

    >>
    >> Good for them.
    >>

    >
    > Maybe the third time they'll get lucky. In the meantime, friends don't
    > let friends use IE.


    You don't have any "friends" so don't worry!
    Oops!...LOL!
     
  7. Conor

    Conor Flightless Bird

    In article <hjkp15$upo$1@news.eternal-september.org>, Alias says...
    >
    > <http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9148138/Researcher_to_reveal_more_Internet_Explorer_problems>


    And? Flaws are always being found in browsers and OSes no matter what
    you use.

    --
    Conor

    I'm not prejudiced. I hate everybody equally.
     
  8. Roland Schweiger

    Roland Schweiger Flightless Bird

    Don't answer to Alias,
    or he will never stop to bombard this group
    with worthless information that nobody here
    wants to hear or see.
    Besides, we are all happy with IE8
    so nobody needs to tell us that we are
    supposed to be unhappy.
    greetings
    Roland Schweiger
     
  9. Bill Yanaire, ESQ

    Bill Yanaire, ESQ Flightless Bird

    "Alias" <Alias@nospam.com.invalid> wrote in message
    news:hjkraq$d8i$7@news.eternal-september.org...
    > Frank wrote:
    >> Alias wrote:
    >>> Frank wrote:
    >>>> Alias wrote:
    >>>>> <http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9148138/Researcher_to_reveal_more_Internet_Explorer_problems>
    >>>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> Care to cite on e example of this happening?
    >>>> No?
    >>>> Oops!
    >>>
    >>> It is cited in the article.

    >>
    >> No it isn't. Not one case of this happening to anyone, anywhere at
    >> anytime has been documented.
    >> It is all theoretical.

    >
    > No, it's been tested and proved.
    >
    >>
    >> MS acknowledges it and is working on a third
    >>> "fix", Mr. Oops.

    >>
    >> Good for them.
    >>

    >
    > Maybe the third time they'll get lucky. In the meantime, friends don't let
    > friends use IE.
    >
    > --
    > Alias


    In that case, you should stay away from Microsoft products as they are way
    over your head. You would get confused and of course, your system would
    become infected because you have no clue how to prevent infections.
     
  10. DanS

    DanS Flightless Bird

    "Roland Schweiger" <roland_schweiger@web.de> wrote in news:hjkvta$337$1
    @news.eternal-september.org:

    > Don't answer to Alias,
    > or he will never stop to bombard this group
    > with worthless information that nobody here
    > wants to hear or see.


    Warnings about vulnerabilities in s/w you may be using is worthless
    information ?

    And this particular vulnerability has been around a long time and MS
    already attempted to fix it twice, but didn't.
     
  11. Roland Schweiger

    Roland Schweiger Flightless Bird

    "DanS"

    > Warnings about vulnerabilities in s/w you may be using is worthless
    > information ?
    >
    > And this particular vulnerability has been around a long time and MS
    > already attempted to fix it twice, but didn't.


    It is plain theory - there is NOT ONE SINGLE documented case
    where this has actually happened.
    So i do regard it as worthless information, panic-making
    and utterly useless because to 99,9999999999% of people using ie8,
    this exploit will never apply and why should other browsers not also be
    exploitable?
     
  12. Frank

    Frank Flightless Bird

    DanS wrote:
    > "Roland Schweiger" <roland_schweiger@web.de> wrote in news:hjkvta$337$1
    > @news.eternal-september.org:
    >
    >> Don't answer to Alias,
    >> or he will never stop to bombard this group
    >> with worthless information that nobody here
    >> wants to hear or see.

    >
    > Warnings about vulnerabilities in s/w you may be using is worthless
    > information ?


    So what do you recommend doing with or about the info dan-o?
    >
    > And this particular vulnerability has been around a long time and MS
    > already attempted to fix it twice, but didn't.


    So did you get hacked thru this vulnerability?
     
  13. DanS

    DanS Flightless Bird

    "Roland Schweiger" <roland_schweiger@web.de> wrote in news:hjl3o6$82d$1
    @news.eternal-september.org:

    > "DanS"
    >
    >> Warnings about vulnerabilities in s/w you may be using is worthless
    >> information ?
    >>
    >> And this particular vulnerability has been around a long time and MS
    >> already attempted to fix it twice, but didn't.

    >
    > It is plain theory - there is NOT ONE SINGLE documented case
    > where this has actually happened.


    It's not theory. There were two links that documented in excruciating
    detail both of the previous fix attempts including what's required,
    exactly, to do this exploit, and how all this applies to the browser
    security model.....

    http://www.coresecurity.com/content/ie-security-zone-bypass

    > So i do regard it as worthless information, panic-making
    > and utterly useless because to 99,9999999999% of people using ie8,
    > this exploit will never apply and why should other browsers not also be
    > exploitable?


    Uh....Because it a different browser ? Let's see Adobe Acrobat Reader and
    Foxit PDF Reader both read PDF files, but I've never seen a security
    update for Foxit. Read the article linked above explaining exactly how
    and why IE would be affected.
     
  14. Frank

    Frank Flightless Bird

    DanS wrote:
    > "Roland Schweiger" <roland_schweiger@web.de> wrote in news:hjl3o6$82d$1
    > @news.eternal-september.org:
    >
    >> "DanS"
    >>
    >>> Warnings about vulnerabilities in s/w you may be using is worthless
    >>> information ?
    >>>
    >>> And this particular vulnerability has been around a long time and MS
    >>> already attempted to fix it twice, but didn't.

    >> It is plain theory - there is NOT ONE SINGLE documented case
    >> where this has actually happened.

    >
    > It's not theory. There were two links that documented in excruciating
    > detail both of the previous fix attempts including what's required,
    > exactly, to do this exploit, and how all this applies to the browser
    > security model.....
    >
    > http://www.coresecurity.com/content/ie-security-zone-bypass
    >
    >> So i do regard it as worthless information, panic-making
    >> and utterly useless because to 99,9999999999% of people using ie8,
    >> this exploit will never apply and why should other browsers not also be
    >> exploitable?

    >
    > Uh....Because it a different browser ? Let's see Adobe Acrobat Reader and
    > Foxit PDF Reader both read PDF files, but I've never seen a security
    > update for Foxit. Read the article linked above explaining exactly how
    > and why IE would be affected.



    ...."5. Non-vulnerable packages
    Internet Explorer 8 under Windows 2000/2003/XP/Vista".
    Now what?
    Oops!

    6. Vendor Information, Solutions and Workarounds
    ...."Only run IE in Protected Mode if it is available on the operating
    system".
    That is the default setting for IE8 in Windows 7.
    So now what?
    Big oops!
     
  15. Alias

    Alias Flightless Bird

    Frank wrote:

    > So now what?


    So now you're infected, part of a net bot, and don't even know it,
    that's what.

    --
    Alias
     
  16. Frank

    Frank Flightless Bird

    Alias wrote:
    > Frank wrote:
    >
    >> So now what?

    >
    > So now you're infected, part of a net bot, and don't even know it,
    > that's what.
    >

    Could you possibly get any more desperate, cody?
    Oops!...LOL!
     
  17. Alias

    Alias Flightless Bird

    Frank wrote:
    > Alias wrote:
    >> Frank wrote:
    >>
    >>> So now what?

    >>
    >> So now you're infected, part of a net bot, and don't even know it,
    >> that's what.
    >>

    > Could you possibly get any more desperate, cody?
    > Oops!...LOL!


    You're the one who's infected and doesn't realize it, not me, chump.
    Keep using IE8 like a good little MS fanboi and see what it gets you.

    --
    Alias
     
  18. Conor

    Conor Flightless Bird

    In article <hjn53t$njn$2@news.eternal-september.org>, Alias says...

    > You're the one who's infected and doesn't realize it, not me, chump.
    > Keep using IE8 like a good little MS fanboi and see what it gets you.


    Quite safe seeing as it runs in a sandbox on Win Vista/7.

    OTOH, as the Loonix and Macboi brigade seem to think their Ossen are
    immune, they're more likely to be infected without knowing than anyone
    else.

    --
    Conor

    I'm not prejudiced. I hate everybody equally.
     
  19. Frank

    Frank Flightless Bird

    Alias wrote:
    > Frank wrote:
    >> Alias wrote:
    >>> Frank wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> So now what?
    >>>
    >>> So now you're infected, part of a net bot, and don't even know it,
    >>> that's what.
    >>>

    >> Could you possibly get any more desperate, cody?
    >> Oops!...LOL!

    >
    > You're the one who's infected and doesn't realize it, not me, chump.
    > Keep using IE8 like a good little MS fanboi and see what it gets you.


    Does that irritate you cody? I sure hope it does.
    Oh and just WTF do you surf that makes you so paranoid about being
    infected...child porn sites or animal sex sites or both?
    Well...?
    Oops!...LOL!
     
  20. Alias

    Alias Flightless Bird

    Conor wrote:
    > In article <hjn53t$njn$2@news.eternal-september.org>, Alias says...
    >
    >> You're the one who's infected and doesn't realize it, not me, chump.
    >> Keep using IE8 like a good little MS fanboi and see what it gets you.

    >
    > Quite safe seeing as it runs in a sandbox on Win Vista/7.
    >
    > OTOH, as the Loonix and Macboi brigade seem to think their Ossen are
    > immune, they're more likely to be infected without knowing than anyone
    > else.
    >


    You obviously don't have the first clue as to how Linux is designed nor
    how IE is an integral part of the Windows OS but thanks for playing,
    clueless one.

    --
    Alias
     

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