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IT WORKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WM works on W-7 :-))) JOY! JOY!!!!

V

Valorie *~~

Flightless Bird
WM works on W-7 and few hoops had to be jumped through. All the WM files
from Vista were once again moved under Program Files on W-7. The folder name
was changed to Windows-Mail instead of Windows Mail. I added the - with no
spaces. The correct 64-bit msoe dll was added removing the 32-bit dll. The
correct dll is larger then the 32-bit from Vista. Then I created a shortcut
(WinMail.exe) to the desktop, clicked it and WM opened. That was all it
took!

I sure hope this helps others who may not know to replace the msoe dll and
install it under Programs Files, not PF (x86). No need to tolorate WLM if
you don't like it. :)
 
S

Sunny Bard

Flightless Bird
Re: IT WORKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WM works on W-7 :))) JOY!JOY!!!!

Valorie *~~ wrote:

> replace the msoe dll
> and install it under Programs Files, not PF (x86). No need to tolorate
> WLM if you don't like it. :)


Though presumably you won't receive any security fixes?
 
A

Alias

Flightless Bird
Re: IT WORKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WM works on W-7 :))) JOY!JOY!!!!

On 09/21/2010 11:40 AM, Sunny Bard wrote:
> Valorie *~~ wrote:
>
>> replace the msoe dll
>> and install it under Programs Files, not PF (x86). No need to tolorate
>> WLM if you don't like it. :)

>
> Though presumably you won't receive any security fixes?


She won't as Windows Mail is now Windows Dead. Personally, I don't like
OE, WM or WLM. T-Bird is much better in many ways.

--
Alias
 
L

LouB

Flightless Bird
Re: IT WORKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WM works on W-7 :))) JOY!JOY!!!!

Valorie *~~ wrote:
> WM works on W-7 and few hoops had to be jumped through. All the WM
> files from Vista were once again moved under Program Files on W-7. The
> folder name was changed to Windows-Mail instead of Windows Mail. I
> added the - with no spaces. The correct 64-bit msoe dll was added
> removing the 32-bit dll. The correct dll is larger then the 32-bit from
> Vista. Then I created a shortcut (WinMail.exe) to the desktop, clicked
> it and WM opened. That was all it took!
>
> I sure hope this helps others who may not know to replace the msoe dll
> and install it under Programs Files, not PF (x86). No need to tolorate
> WLM if you don't like it. :)
>
>
>
>

Thanks for the follow-up
 
P

Peter Foldes

Flightless Bird
Sunny Bard

Why would she need any security fixes. It is a mail client. OE which many still use
stopped giving any Security fixes log before 2006 when the OE team was dissolved on
the Campus..
Nothing at all wrong with using VM on Win 7

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"Sunny Bard" <sunnybard@txinfo.org> wrote in message
news:i79uhg$e4n$1@sunnybard.eternal-september.org...
> Valorie *~~ wrote:
>
>> replace the msoe dll
>> and install it under Programs Files, not PF (x86). No need to tolorate
>> WLM if you don't like it. :)

>
> Though presumably you won't receive any security fixes?
 
S

Sunny Bard

Flightless Bird
Re: IT WORKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WM works on W-7 :))) JOY!JOY!!!!

Peter Foldes wrote:

> Why would she need any security fixes. It is a mail client.


Having never used WM or WLM, I gather their heritage is in OE, which was
a mail client that needed a metric shitload of security fixes, I
wouldn't want to run any mail client that could display HTML messages
and possibly invoke javascript unless it was receiving fixes ...
 
J

Jack

Flightless Bird
"Sunny Bard" <sunnybard@txinfo.org> wrote in message
news:i7ahed$ks1$1@sunnybard.eternal-september.org...
> Peter Foldes wrote:
>
>> Why would she need any security fixes. It is a mail client.

>
> Having never used WM or WLM, I gather their heritage is in OE, which was a
> mail client that needed a metric shitload of security fixes, I wouldn't
> want to run any mail client that could display HTML messages and possibly
> invoke javascript unless it was receiving fixes ...
>


If you'd learn how to configure them, all can prevent HTML.
 
S

Sunny Bard

Flightless Bird
Re: IT WORKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WM works on W-7 :))) JOY!JOY!!!!

Jack wrote:

> If you'd learn how to configure them, all can prevent HTML.


As I don't run OE/WM/WLM I have little need to learn how to configure
them, but I'm sure they can. The issues I have/had with OE was that it
out of the box it was configured to send HTML, display HTML, run scripts
and be pretty lax about launching executable content ... all the least
safe options by default.
 
F

Frank

Flightless Bird
Re: IT WORKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WM works on W-7 :))) JOY!JOY!!!!

On 9/21/2010 3:58 AM, Alias wrote:
> On 09/21/2010 11:40 AM, Sunny Bard wrote:
>> Valorie *~~ wrote:
>>
>>> replace the msoe dll
>>> and install it under Programs Files, not PF (x86). No need to tolorate
>>> WLM if you don't like it. :)

>>
>> Though presumably you won't receive any security fixes?

>
> She won't as Windows Mail is now Windows Dead. Personally, I don't like
> OE, WM or WLM. T-Bird is much better in many ways.
>

Outlook is the best.
 
D

Dave

Flightless Bird
"Jack" <nospam@invalid.not> wrote in message
news:mJ4mo.61037$u16.57925@newsfe17.iad...
>
> "Sunny Bard" <sunnybard@txinfo.org> wrote in message
> news:i7ahed$ks1$1@sunnybard.eternal-september.org...
>> Peter Foldes wrote:
>>
>>> Why would she need any security fixes. It is a mail client.

>>
>> Having never used WM or WLM, I gather their heritage is in OE, which was
>> a mail client that needed a metric shitload of security fixes, I wouldn't
>> want to run any mail client that could display HTML messages and possibly
>> invoke javascript unless it was receiving fixes ...
>>

>
> If you'd learn how to configure them, all can prevent HTML.


I'm sure you wouldn't mind sharing a bit of generic information on how to do
this or possibly a link to the information you have?
Dave
 
K

KCB

Flightless Bird
"Dave" <dave@unknown.invalid> wrote in message
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>
> "Jack" <nospam@invalid.not> wrote in message
> news:mJ4mo.61037$u16.57925@newsfe17.iad...
>>
>> "Sunny Bard" <sunnybard@txinfo.org> wrote in message
>> news:i7ahed$ks1$1@sunnybard.eternal-september.org...
>>> Peter Foldes wrote:
>>>
>>>> Why would she need any security fixes. It is a mail client.
>>>
>>> Having never used WM or WLM, I gather their heritage is in OE, which was
>>> a mail client that needed a metric shitload of security fixes, I
>>> wouldn't want to run any mail client that could display HTML messages
>>> and possibly invoke javascript unless it was receiving fixes ...
>>>

>>
>> If you'd learn how to configure them, all can prevent HTML.

>
> I'm sure you wouldn't mind sharing a bit of generic information on how to
> do this or possibly a link to the information you have?
> Dave


For OE - Under Options, the Read Tab, check the box that says "Read all
messages in plain text". Then go to the Security Tab and check the boxes
that say "Do not allow attachments to be saved or opened that could
potentially be a virus", and "Block images and other external content in
HTML email" Of course the last one or two would not be needed if you are
reading all messages in plain text.

Presumably, you could further restrict OE at the Security tab by clicking
the Radio button for "Restricted Sites", instead of the "Internet Zone".

WLM doesn't have the Security tab in the main options box, but makes it
available from the Menus Button/Safety Options in the upper right corner,
next to the Help? button. The same settings are available there as the
Security tab in OE. I'm sure WM works about the same as the other two, but
can't confirm because I don't use it.
 
V

Valorie *~~

Flightless Bird
"Sunny Bard" <sunnybard@txinfo.org> wrote in message
news:i79uhg$e4n$1@sunnybard.eternal-september.org...
> Valorie *~~ wrote:
>
>> replace the msoe dll
>> and install it under Programs Files, not PF (x86). No need to tolorate
>> WLM if you don't like it. :)

>
> Though presumably you won't receive any security fixes?


It doesn't matter. I couldn't live with WLM.
 
M

milt

Flightless Bird
Re: IT WORKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WM works on W-7 :))) JOY!JOY!!!!

On 9/21/2010 8:01 PM, Valorie *~~ wrote:
> "Sunny Bard" <sunnybard@txinfo.org> wrote in message
> news:i79uhg$e4n$1@sunnybard.eternal-september.org...
>> Valorie *~~ wrote:
>>
>>> replace the msoe dll
>>> and install it under Programs Files, not PF (x86). No need to tolorate
>>> WLM if you don't like it. :)

>>
>> Though presumably you won't receive any security fixes?

>
> It doesn't matter. I couldn't live with WLM.
>
>


Yeah, who needs security, anyways? Using outdated, obsolete e-mail
clients is much better!
 
W

Walt

Flightless Bird
On Tue, 21 Sep 2010 12:19:24 -0500, "Dave" <dave@unknown.invalid>
wrote:

>
>"Jack" <nospam@invalid.not> wrote in message
>news:mJ4mo.61037$u16.57925@newsfe17.iad...
>>
>> "Sunny Bard" <sunnybard@txinfo.org> wrote in message
>> news:i7ahed$ks1$1@sunnybard.eternal-september.org...
>>> Peter Foldes wrote:
>>>
>>>> Why would she need any security fixes. It is a mail client.
>>>
>>> Having never used WM or WLM, I gather their heritage is in OE, which was
>>> a mail client that needed a metric shitload of security fixes, I wouldn't
>>> want to run any mail client that could display HTML messages and possibly
>>> invoke javascript unless it was receiving fixes ...
>>>

>>
>> If you'd learn how to configure them, all can prevent HTML.

>
>I'm sure you wouldn't mind sharing a bit of generic information on how to do
>this or possibly a link to the information you have?
>Dave


I would like to know how this works also. I've tried several times to
get WM to work in W7 without success.
Walt
 
R

relic

Flightless Bird
"Walt" <vzlion@q.com> wrote in message
news:1pdk96pa07pifppcgjpbf91uaeb563lsbf@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 21 Sep 2010 12:19:24 -0500, "Dave" <dave@unknown.invalid>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Jack" <nospam@invalid.not> wrote in message
>>news:mJ4mo.61037$u16.57925@newsfe17.iad...
>>>
>>> "Sunny Bard" <sunnybard@txinfo.org> wrote in message
>>> news:i7ahed$ks1$1@sunnybard.eternal-september.org...
>>>> Peter Foldes wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Why would she need any security fixes. It is a mail client.
>>>>
>>>> Having never used WM or WLM, I gather their heritage is in OE, which
>>>> was
>>>> a mail client that needed a metric shitload of security fixes, I
>>>> wouldn't
>>>> want to run any mail client that could display HTML messages and
>>>> possibly
>>>> invoke javascript unless it was receiving fixes ...
>>>>
>>>
>>> If you'd learn how to configure them, all can prevent HTML.

>>
>>I'm sure you wouldn't mind sharing a bit of generic information on how to
>>do
>>this or possibly a link to the information you have?
>>Dave

>
> I would like to know how this works also.I've tried several times to
> get WM to work in W7 without success.
> Walt


Jack: "...all can prevent HTML."
You: "...I've tried several times to get WM to work in W7 without success."

Me: Huh?
 
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Dave

Flightless Bird
"KCB" <bcgc_qc@hootmail.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> "Dave" <dave@unknown.invalid> wrote in message
> news:eek:OSdnUKepOeGdAXRnZ2dnUVZ_hSdnZ2d@sigecom.net...
>>
>> "Jack" <nospam@invalid.not> wrote in message
>> news:mJ4mo.61037$u16.57925@newsfe17.iad...
>>>
>>> "Sunny Bard" <sunnybard@txinfo.org> wrote in message
>>> news:i7ahed$ks1$1@sunnybard.eternal-september.org...
>>>> Peter Foldes wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Why would she need any security fixes. It is a mail client.
>>>>
>>>> Having never used WM or WLM, I gather their heritage is in OE, which
>>>> was a mail client that needed a metric shitload of security fixes, I
>>>> wouldn't want to run any mail client that could display HTML messages
>>>> and possibly invoke javascript unless it was receiving fixes ...
>>>>
>>>
>>> If you'd learn how to configure them, all can prevent HTML.

>>
>> I'm sure you wouldn't mind sharing a bit of generic information on how to
>> do this or possibly a link to the information you have?
>> Dave

>
> For OE - Under Options, the Read Tab, check the box that says "Read all
> messages in plain text". Then go to the Security Tab and check the boxes
> that say "Do not allow attachments to be saved or opened that could
> potentially be a virus", and "Block images and other external content in
> HTML email" Of course the last one or two would not be needed if you are
> reading all messages in plain text.
>
> Presumably, you could further restrict OE at the Security tab by clicking
> the Radio button for "Restricted Sites", instead of the "Internet Zone".
>
> WLM doesn't have the Security tab in the main options box, but makes it
> available from the Menus Button/Safety Options in the upper right corner,
> next to the Help? button. The same settings are available there as the
> Security tab in OE. I'm sure WM works about the same as the other two,
> but can't confirm because I don't use it.


Thanks for the tips.
Dave
 
V

Valorie *~~

Flightless Bird
"Walt" <vzlion@q.com> wrote in message
news:1pdk96pa07pifppcgjpbf91uaeb563lsbf@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 21 Sep 2010 12:19:24 -0500, "Dave" <dave@unknown.invalid>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Jack" <nospam@invalid.not> wrote in message
>>news:mJ4mo.61037$u16.57925@newsfe17.iad...
>>>
>>> "Sunny Bard" <sunnybard@txinfo.org> wrote in message
>>> news:i7ahed$ks1$1@sunnybard.eternal-september.org...
>>>> Peter Foldes wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Why would she need any security fixes. It is a mail client.
>>>>
>>>> Having never used WM or WLM, I gather their heritage is in OE, which
>>>> was
>>>> a mail client that needed a metric shitload of security fixes, I
>>>> wouldn't
>>>> want to run any mail client that could display HTML messages and
>>>> possibly
>>>> invoke javascript unless it was receiving fixes ...
>>>>
>>>
>>> If you'd learn how to configure them, all can prevent HTML.

>>
>>I'm sure you wouldn't mind sharing a bit of generic information on how to
>>do
>>this or possibly a link to the information you have?
>>Dave

>
> I would like to know how this works also. I've tried several times to
> get WM to work in W7 without success.
> Walt


Copy all the WM files from your Vista machine and move them to the (x86)
programs folder if 32-bit. If your new PC is 64-bit, get the correct .dll
for 64-bit and you can add WM to the regular Programs folder. It was easier
than I thought but the security crap on W-7 is a total aggravation to work
around.
 
V

Valorie *~~

Flightless Bird
"milt" <theatre_nospam_guy@miltsweb.com> wrote in message
news:i7bnkl$e6v$1@news.eternal-september.org...
> On 9/21/2010 8:01 PM, Valorie *~~ wrote:
>> "Sunny Bard" <sunnybard@txinfo.org> wrote in message
>> news:i79uhg$e4n$1@sunnybard.eternal-september.org...
>>> Valorie *~~ wrote:
>>>
>>>> replace the msoe dll
>>>> and install it under Programs Files, not PF (x86). No need to tolorate
>>>> WLM if you don't like it. :)
>>>
>>> Though presumably you won't receive any security fixes?

>>
>> It doesn't matter. I couldn't live with WLM.
>>
>>

>
> Yeah, who needs security, anyways? Using outdated, obsolete e-mail clients
> is much better!


Outdated? WM? Since when? Millions of people with Vista are still using it.
I have no need of the useless (to me) features WLM contains.
 
D

DougS

Flightless Bird
?

"Valorie *~~" wrote in message news:4c9ac8ea@news.x-privat.org...

"milt" <theatre_nospam_guy@miltsweb.com> wrote in message
news:i7bnkl$e6v$1@news.eternal-september.org...
> On 9/21/2010 8:01 PM, Valorie *~~ wrote:
>> "Sunny Bard" <sunnybard@txinfo.org> wrote in message
>> news:i79uhg$e4n$1@sunnybard.eternal-september.org...
>>> Valorie *~~ wrote:
>>>
>>>> replace the msoe dll
>>>> and install it under Programs Files, not PF (x86). No need to tolorate
>>>> WLM if you don't like it. :)
>>>
>>> Though presumably you won't receive any security fixes?

>>
>> It doesn't matter. I couldn't live with WLM.
>>
>>

>
> Yeah, who needs security, anyways? Using outdated, obsolete e-mail clients
> is much better!


Outdated? WM? Since when? Millions of people with Vista are still using it.
I have no need of the useless (to me) features WLM contains.

Umm - I'm using Win7 Home Premium 32bit and am tempted to return from WLM
Version 2011 (Build 15.4.3002.0810) to WM, but feel uneasy about using WM it
when it is unsupported with security fixes. Is there a significant risk
assuming other security precautions such as firewall, anti malware and anti
virus are in place?
DougS
 
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