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Is Win7 compatible with Tiscali Broadband?

Discussion in 'Windows 7' started by Emrys Davies, Jan 6, 2010.

  1. Emrys Davies

    Emrys Davies Flightless Bird

    I have Tiscali Broadband with a modem connected by USB. Someone told be
    that it may not be compatible with Win7. Anyone using such a setup?
     
  2. Mike Hall - MVP

    Mike Hall - MVP Flightless Bird

    "Emrys Davies" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
    news:7qjdijFbo9U1@mid.individual.net...
    >
    > "Emrys Davies" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
    > news:7qjcf2F50cU1@mid.individual.net...
    >> I have Tiscali Broadband with a modem connected by USB. Someone told

    > be
    >> that it may not be compatible with Win7. Anyone using such a setup?

    >
    > Tiscali Upgrades tell me that my modem is not compatible with Win7 and
    > that I need a free Wireless Router from them providing that I remain
    > with them for another twelve months. Otherwise cost is £25.00 with no
    > obligation.
    >
    >


    Go ahead and get the router..

    --

    Mike Hall - MVP Windows Experience
    http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/
     
  3. Bruce Hagen

    Bruce Hagen Flightless Bird

    "Emrys Davies" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
    news:7qjcf2F50cU1@mid.individual.net...
    >I have Tiscali Broadband with a modem connected by USB. Someone told be
    > that it may not be compatible with Win7. Anyone using such a setup?
    >



    Ridiculous. An ISP doesn't know or care what operating system you are
    using.
    --
    Bruce Hagen
    MS-MVP [Mail]
    Imperial Beach, CA
     
  4. Seth

    Seth Flightless Bird

    "Emrys Davies" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
    news:7qjcf2F50cU1@mid.individual.net...
    >I have Tiscali Broadband with a modem connected by USB. Someone told be
    > that it may not be compatible with Win7. Anyone using such a setup?


    The ISP itself will be fine (as it's just a network connection) but the real
    question is... If you're using the USB connection to your modem, are there
    USB drivers for that modem. That will all depend on the make/model of the
    modem.

    Or, does your modem also have an Ethernet connection? All that I have seen
    do. Use that and all your compatibility worries (at least in regards to
    Win7/Internet access) disappear.
     
  5. Jeff Gaines

    Jeff Gaines Flightless Bird

    On 06/01/2010 in message <hi28vj$haq$1@speranza.aioe.org> Bruce Hagen wrote:

    >
    >"Emrys Davies" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
    >news:7qjcf2F50cU1@mid.individual.net...
    >>I have Tiscali Broadband with a modem connected by USB. Someone told be
    >>that it may not be compatible with Win7. Anyone using such a setup?
    >>

    >
    >
    >Ridiculous. An ISP doesn't know or care what operating system you are
    >using.


    Perhaps except when it's a USB modem that requires drivers?

    --
    Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
    The facts, although interesting, are irrelevant
     
  6. Gordon

    Gordon Flightless Bird

    "Bruce Hagen" <Nospam@mymail.invalid> wrote in message
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    >
    > "Emrys Davies" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
    > news:7qjcf2F50cU1@mid.individual.net...
    >>I have Tiscali Broadband with a modem connected by USB. Someone told be
    >> that it may not be compatible with Win7. Anyone using such a setup?
    >>

    >
    >
    > Ridiculous. An ISP doesn't know or care what operating system you are
    > using.


    A number of the more "popular" ISPs in the UK supply a CD with software on
    it to go with their particular brand of USB modem.....many people don't even
    realise you don't need it...
     
  7. Bruce Hagen

    Bruce Hagen Flightless Bird

    "Jeff Gaines" <jgaines_newsid@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
    news:xn0gotokx8jacac002@news.individual.net...
    > On 06/01/2010 in message <hi28vj$haq$1@speranza.aioe.org> Bruce Hagen
    > wrote:
    >
    >>
    >>"Emrys Davies" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
    >>news:7qjcf2F50cU1@mid.individual.net...
    >>>I have Tiscali Broadband with a modem connected by USB. Someone told
    >>>be
    >>>that it may not be compatible with Win7. Anyone using such a setup?
    >>>

    >>
    >>
    >>Ridiculous. An ISP doesn't know or care what operating system you are
    >>using.

    >
    > Perhaps except when it's a USB modem that requires drivers?
    >
    > --
    > Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
    > The facts, although interesting, are irrelevant



    Then the modem doesn't have drivers for Win7. I was only looking at it
    from the other direction.
    --
    Bruce Hagen
    MS-MVP [Mail]
    Imperial Beach, CA
     
  8. Emrys Davies

    Emrys Davies Flightless Bird

    "Seth" <seth_lermanNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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    > "Emrys Davies" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
    > news:7qjcf2F50cU1@mid.individual.net...
    > >I have Tiscali Broadband with a modem connected by USB. Someone told

    be
    > > that it may not be compatible with Win7. Anyone using such a setup?

    >
    > The ISP itself will be fine (as it's just a network connection) but

    the real
    > question is... If you're using the USB connection to your modem, are

    there
    > USB drivers for that modem. That will all depend on the make/model of

    the
    > modem.


    Mine is a Sagem external modem and it has ADSL and PWR over the two
    leds, respectively.

    >> Or, does your modem also have an Ethernet connection? All that I have

    seen
    > do. Use that and all your compatibility worries (at least in regards

    to
    > Win7/Internet access) disappear.
    >
     
  9. Seth

    Seth Flightless Bird

    "Emrys Davies" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
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    >
    > "Seth" <seth_lermanNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    > news:hi299g$59d$1@news.eternal-september.org...
    >> "Emrys Davies" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
    >> news:7qjcf2F50cU1@mid.individual.net...
    >> >I have Tiscali Broadband with a modem connected by USB. Someone told

    > be
    >> > that it may not be compatible with Win7. Anyone using such a setup?

    >>
    >> The ISP itself will be fine (as it's just a network connection) but

    > the real
    >> question is... If you're using the USB connection to your modem, are

    > there
    >> USB drivers for that modem. That will all depend on the make/model of

    > the
    >> modem.

    >
    > Mine is a Sagem external modem and it has ADSL and PWR over the two
    > leds, respectively.



    No model number? Maybe on a label somewhere?

    Or as asked previously, no Ethernet to use instead of USB?
     
  10. Emrys Davies

    Emrys Davies Flightless Bird

    "Seth" <seth_lermanNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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    > "Emrys Davies" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
    > news:7qk0acF40cU1@mid.individual.net...
    > >
    > > "Seth" <seth_lermanNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    > > news:hi299g$59d$1@news.eternal-september.org...
    > >> "Emrys Davies" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
    > >> news:7qjcf2F50cU1@mid.individual.net...
    > >> >I have Tiscali Broadband with a modem connected by USB. Someone

    told
    > > be
    > >> > that it may not be compatible with Win7. Anyone using such a

    setup?
    > >>
    > >> The ISP itself will be fine (as it's just a network connection) but

    > > the real
    > >> question is... If you're using the USB connection to your modem,

    are
    > > there
    > >> USB drivers for that modem. That will all depend on the make/model

    of
    > > the
    > >> modem.

    > >
    > > Mine is a Sagem external modem and it has ADSL and PWR over the two
    > > leds, respectively.

    >
    >
    > No model number? Maybe on a label somewhere?
    >
    > Or as asked previously, no Ethernet to use instead of USB?


    Modem has a checkout type label thereon with words Sagem Fast TM 800E3.
    I cannot see an Ethernet connection or cable and there has been no
    mention of it. Have you seen my earlier post about Tiscali offering to
    send me a Wireless Router because my modem is not compatible with Win7.
     
  11. SC Tom

    SC Tom Flightless Bird

    "Emrys Davies" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
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    >
    > "Seth" <seth_lermanNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    > news:hi2n1p$fpv$1@news.eternal-september.org...
    >> "Emrys Davies" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
    >> news:7qk0acF40cU1@mid.individual.net...
    >> >
    >> > "Seth" <seth_lermanNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    >> > news:hi299g$59d$1@news.eternal-september.org...
    >> >> "Emrys Davies" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
    >> >> news:7qjcf2F50cU1@mid.individual.net...
    >> >> >I have Tiscali Broadband with a modem connected by USB. Someone

    > told
    >> > be
    >> >> > that it may not be compatible with Win7. Anyone using such a

    > setup?
    >> >>
    >> >> The ISP itself will be fine (as it's just a network connection) but
    >> > the real
    >> >> question is... If you're using the USB connection to your modem,

    > are
    >> > there
    >> >> USB drivers for that modem. That will all depend on the make/model

    > of
    >> > the
    >> >> modem.
    >> >
    >> > Mine is a Sagem external modem and it has ADSL and PWR over the two
    >> > leds, respectively.

    >>
    >>
    >> No model number? Maybe on a label somewhere?
    >>
    >> Or as asked previously, no Ethernet to use instead of USB?

    >
    > Modem has a checkout type label thereon with words Sagem Fast TM 800E3.
    > I cannot see an Ethernet connection or cable and there has been no
    > mention of it. Have you seen my earlier post about Tiscali offering to
    > send me a Wireless Router because my modem is not compatible with Win7.
    >
    >


    Try for a driver here
    http://support.sagem-communications.com/site/modele_fax.php?page=driver&prd=SAGEMF@st800/840&pays=uk

    The modem only has USB, no ethernet connection, so you will probably need
    the driver. It says it's for Vista, but who knows? I have a few Vista
    drivers still on my Win7 notebook, and I haven't had to use compatibility
    mode yet (KOW!).
    --
    SC Tom
     
  12. Enkidu

    Enkidu Flightless Bird

    Emrys Davies wrote:

    > Modem has a checkout type label thereon with words Sagem Fast TM 800E3.
    > I cannot see an Ethernet connection or cable and there has been no
    > mention of it. Have you seen my earlier post about Tiscali offering to
    > send me a Wireless Router because my modem is not compatible with Win7.


    They must be offering you a modem/wifi router combo device, else it's
    useless. It won't connect via USB to the modem, and you say the modem
    has no ethernet port.

    In the future, don't get stuck with a USB modem . . . it's a sucky way
    to connect. There are modem/router/wifi devices if you want it all in
    one package, but I wouldn't go that way either.

    Best to get an ethernet modem that connects to your cable or DSL, and
    connect a wifi/ethernet router to that. And there should never be a
    reason to install software in order to connect to your cable or DSL
    modem . . . you don't need it, you don't want it. Everything you need
    to connect via ethernet or wifi comes with the OS or the wifi card
    driver. "Cox Connecion Master" or whatever they push on you gives you
    nothing.


    --
    Enkidu
     
  13. Seth

    Seth Flightless Bird

    "Emrys Davies" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
    news:7qkb2cF99lU1@mid.individual.net...
    >
    > Modem has a checkout type label thereon with words Sagem Fast TM 800E3.
    > I cannot see an Ethernet connection or cable and there has been no
    > mention of it. Have you seen my earlier post about Tiscali offering to
    > send me a Wireless Router because my modem is not compatible with Win7.



    Yeah, I'd asked about Ethernet earlier. But if it doesn't have it, then that
    won't help.

    Here is a driver that is for Vista and Vista-64 so there is a good chance it
    will work as many drivers are cross-compatible.

    Yes, saw you say they would send you one, but it required either $ up front
    or a commitment. You still exploring making your current one work indicates
    that you would still like this rather than the options your ISP has offered.
     
  14. Seth

    Seth Flightless Bird

    "Seth" <seth_lermanNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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    > "Emrys Davies" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
    > news:7qkb2cF99lU1@mid.individual.net...
    >>
    >> Modem has a checkout type label thereon with words Sagem Fast TM 800E3.
    >> I cannot see an Ethernet connection or cable and there has been no
    >> mention of it. Have you seen my earlier post about Tiscali offering to
    >> send me a Wireless Router because my modem is not compatible with Win7.

    >
    >
    > Yeah, I'd asked about Ethernet earlier. But if it doesn't have it, then
    > that won't help.
    >
    > Here is a driver that is for Vista and Vista-64 so there is a good chance
    > it will work as many drivers are cross-compatible.


    Oops, forgot to actually paste the link...
    http://lgsagem.free.fr/drivers_fast800.htm

    > Yes, saw you say they would send you one, but it required either $ up
    > front or a commitment. You still exploring making your current one work
    > indicates that you would still like this rather than the options your ISP
    > has offered.
    >
     
  15. Gordon

    Gordon Flightless Bird

    "Enkidu" <enkidu@nogodhere.net> wrote in message
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    > There are modem/router/wifi devices if you want it all in
    > one package, but I wouldn't go that way either.


    And why not?
     
  16. Enkidu

    Enkidu Flightless Bird

    Gordon wrote:

    >
    > "Enkidu" <enkidu@nogodhere.net> wrote in message
    > news:20100106223651.4590.31263.XPN@nogodhere.net...
    >> There are modem/router/wifi devices if you want it all in
    >> one package, but I wouldn't go that way either.

    >
    > And why not?


    1) If one component fails, you have to replace everything.

    2) You're stuck with whatever security and firewall capabilities
    come with the device rather than buy one that matches your
    needs.

    3) You're stuck with the range that comes with the device, rather
    than selecting a wifi router with better range. Same with speed.

    --
    Enkidu
     
  17. Gordon

    Gordon Flightless Bird

    "Enkidu" <enkidu@nogodhere.net> wrote in message
    news:20100107142457.3401.70360.XPN@nogodhere.net...
    > Gordon wrote:
    >
    >>
    >> "Enkidu" <enkidu@nogodhere.net> wrote in message
    >> news:20100106223651.4590.31263.XPN@nogodhere.net...
    >>> There are modem/router/wifi devices if you want it all in
    >>> one package, but I wouldn't go that way either.

    >>
    >> And why not?

    >
    > 1) If one component fails, you have to replace everything.


    True

    >
    > 2) You're stuck with whatever security and firewall capabilities
    > come with the device rather than buy one that matches your
    > needs.


    Eh? Ever heard of research before purchasing? Do you normally but things
    that don't "match your needs" in the first place?

    >
    > 3) You're stuck with the range that comes with the device, rather
    > than selecting a wifi router with better range. Same with speed.


    Then again, RESEARCH before purchasing. Simple.
     
  18. Enkidu

    Enkidu Flightless Bird

    Gordon wrote:

    >
    > "Enkidu" <enkidu@nogodhere.net> wrote in message
    > news:20100107142457.3401.70360.XPN@nogodhere.net...
    >> Gordon wrote:
    >>
    >>>
    >>> "Enkidu" <enkidu@nogodhere.net> wrote in message
    >>> news:20100106223651.4590.31263.XPN@nogodhere.net...
    >>>> There are modem/router/wifi devices if you want it all in
    >>>> one package, but I wouldn't go that way either.
    >>>
    >>> And why not?

    >>
    >> 1) If one component fails, you have to replace everything.

    >
    > True
    >
    >>
    >> 2) You're stuck with whatever security and firewall capabilities
    >> come with the device rather than buy one that matches your
    >> needs.

    >
    > Eh? Ever heard of research before purchasing? Do you normally but things
    > that don't "match your needs" in the first place?


    Yes, but the OP is in the position of getting something sent to him by
    his ISP in return for a 12 month commitment. He doesn't have that
    choice, he doesn't even know what they'll send.

    >> 3) You're stuck with the range that comes with the device, rather
    >> than selecting a wifi router with better range. Same with speed.

    >
    > Then again, RESEARCH before purchasing. Simple.


    Again, that's exactly my point. In this case, he gets what his ISP
    sends. That's why he should research, then buy the best components for
    his needs. He might be stuck with the ISPs choice of a modem, but as
    long as that has an ethernet connection, he needn't be stuck with their
    choice of a wifi router. If he takes their combo unit, he is, and I
    expect he'll regret it.

    So I guess we agree, eh?

    --
    Enkidu
     
  19. Emrys Davies

    Emrys Davies Flightless Bird

    "Enkidu" <enkidu@nogodhere.net> wrote in message
    news:20100107200216.3323.38409.XPN@nogodhere.net...
    > Gordon wrote:
    >
    > >
    > > "Enkidu" <enkidu@nogodhere.net> wrote in message
    > > news:20100107142457.3401.70360.XPN@nogodhere.net...
    > >> Gordon wrote:
    > >>
    > >>>
    > >>> "Enkidu" <enkidu@nogodhere.net> wrote in message
    > >>> news:20100106223651.4590.31263.XPN@nogodhere.net...
    > >>>> There are modem/router/wifi devices if you want it all in
    > >>>> one package, but I wouldn't go that way either.
    > >>>
    > >>> And why not?
    > >>
    > >> 1) If one component fails, you have to replace everything.

    > >
    > > True
    > >
    > >>
    > >> 2) You're stuck with whatever security and firewall capabilities
    > >> come with the device rather than buy one that matches your
    > >> needs.

    > >
    > > Eh? Ever heard of research before purchasing? Do you normally but

    things
    > > that don't "match your needs" in the first place?

    >
    > Yes, but the OP is in the position of getting something sent to him by
    > his ISP in return for a 12 month commitment. He doesn't have that
    > choice, he doesn't even know what they'll send.
    >
    > >> 3) You're stuck with the range that comes with the device, rather
    > >> than selecting a wifi router with better range. Same with speed.

    > >
    > > Then again, RESEARCH before purchasing. Simple.

    >
    > Again, that's exactly my point. In this case, he gets what his ISP
    > sends. That's why he should research, then buy the best components for
    > his needs. He might be stuck with the ISPs choice of a modem, but as
    > long as that has an ethernet connection, he needn't be stuck with

    their
    > choice of a wifi router. If he takes their combo unit, he is, and I
    > expect he'll regret it.


    I (OS) am still researching. Today I asked Tiscali Cancellations for a
    Migration Code and after some debate they reduced my monthly £14.67 to
    £7.99 with a free run for the first three months and they are sending me
    a free wireless router to eventually connect to Win7. I accepted that
    offer as my wife and I would like to retain our e-mail addresses and in
    any case I have been with Tiscali (Lineone ect) for about ten years and
    have found them to be quite good. Now TalkTalk have the administrative
    side of their business, and although I have the latter for land line I
    do not want them for broadband.

    > So I guess we agree, eh?
    >
    > --
    > Enkidu
     
  20. Enkidu

    Enkidu Flightless Bird

    Emrys Davies wrote:

    > I (OS) am still researching. Today I asked Tiscali Cancellations for a
    > Migration Code and after some debate they reduced my monthly £14.67 to
    > £7.99 with a free run for the first three months and they are sending me
    > a free wireless router to eventually connect to Win7. I accepted that
    > offer as my wife and I would like to retain our e-mail addresses and in
    > any case I have been with Tiscali (Lineone ect) for about ten years and
    > have found them to be quite good.


    If you're happy with their service, great but I'm not sure how a wifi
    router will solve your problem if you will still be trying to use the
    same USB modem. It just won't plug into a standard wifi router. That's
    why a modem that you connet to via ethernet is the best choice. that way
    you can connect a computer directly to that ethernet port, or a router,
    or a wifi router. I hope it has a modem built in.
    --
    Enkidu
     

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