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internet posts with disguised email address?

J

Jo-Anne

Flightless Bird
I just tried to post in Outlook Express to the newsgroup
microsoft.public.security.homeusers and found that it and
microsoft.public.security.virus are no longer available from Microsoft.
Since I haven't yet set up another account, I was going to post my question
through Google Groups. However, I noticed the warning there that my email
address would become public if I posted. Is there any way to disguise one's
email address in groups in Internet Explorer--as one can in OE?

I'm using WinXP fully updated on all of my computers.

Thank you!

Jo-Anne
 
M

Michael Santovec

Flightless Bird
That's up to the forum you are using. It's not really an Internet
Explorer issue since it doesn't know your e-mail address.

But some (most?) forums require you to setup and account in order to
post. It's up to the forum as to whether they hide your e-mail address
and other information.

I don't know about Google groups.

Microsoft doesn't reveal your e-mail address in the forums that it
hosts, such as at
http://answers.microsoft.com


--

Mike - http://TechHelp.Santovec.us



"Jo-Anne" <Jo-AnneATnowhere.com> wrote in message
news:ursSJ7MBLHA.5464@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> I just tried to post in Outlook Express to the newsgroup
> microsoft.public.security.homeusers and found that it and
> microsoft.public.security.virus are no longer available from
> Microsoft. Since I haven't yet set up another account, I was going to
> post my question through Google Groups. However, I noticed the warning
> there that my email address would become public if I posted. Is there
> any way to disguise one's email address in groups in Internet
> Explorer--as one can in OE?
>
> I'm using WinXP fully updated on all of my computers.
>
> Thank you!
>
> Jo-Anne
>
 
J

Jo-Anne

Flightless Bird
Thank you, Michael! Google Groups says upfront that your email address will
appear with your post. I guess it's time to set up some sort of way to do my
posting in Outlook Express.

Jo-Anne

"Michael Santovec" <michael@santovec.XXX> wrote in message
news:eAgCgnNBLHA.4584@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> That's up to the forum you are using. It's not really an Internet
> Explorer issue since it doesn't know your e-mail address.
>
> But some (most?) forums require you to setup and account in order to post.
> It's up to the forum as to whether they hide your e-mail address and other
> information.
>
> I don't know about Google groups.
>
> Microsoft doesn't reveal your e-mail address in the forums that it hosts,
> such as at
> http://answers.microsoft.com
>
>
> --
>
> Mike - http://TechHelp.Santovec.us
>
>
>
> "Jo-Anne" <Jo-AnneATnowhere.com> wrote in message
> news:ursSJ7MBLHA.5464@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> I just tried to post in Outlook Express to the newsgroup
>> microsoft.public.security.homeusers and found that it and
>> microsoft.public.security.virus are no longer available from Microsoft.
>> Since I haven't yet set up another account, I was going to post my
>> question through Google Groups. However, I noticed the warning there that
>> my email address would become public if I posted. Is there any way to
>> disguise one's email address in groups in Internet Explorer--as one can
>> in OE?
>>
>> I'm using WinXP fully updated on all of my computers.
>>
>> Thank you!
>>
>> Jo-Anne
>>

>
 
F

FromTheRafters

Flightless Bird
Use a free 'throw-away' e-mail account - it helps to have one anyway.

At this point, it would be easier to just sign up to a free usenet
server.

"Jo-Anne" <Jo-AnneATnowhere.com> wrote in message
news:e0Vh0tNBLHA.444@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Thank you, Michael! Google Groups says upfront that your email address
> will appear with your post. I guess it's time to set up some sort of
> way to do my posting in Outlook Express.
>
> Jo-Anne
>
> "Michael Santovec" <michael@santovec.XXX> wrote in message
> news:eAgCgnNBLHA.4584@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> That's up to the forum you are using. It's not really an Internet
>> Explorer issue since it doesn't know your e-mail address.
>>
>> But some (most?) forums require you to setup and account in order to
>> post. It's up to the forum as to whether they hide your e-mail
>> address and other information.
>>
>> I don't know about Google groups.
>>
>> Microsoft doesn't reveal your e-mail address in the forums that it
>> hosts, such as at
>> http://answers.microsoft.com
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Mike - http://TechHelp.Santovec.us
>>
>>
>>
>> "Jo-Anne" <Jo-AnneATnowhere.com> wrote in message
>> news:ursSJ7MBLHA.5464@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> I just tried to post in Outlook Express to the newsgroup
>>> microsoft.public.security.homeusers and found that it and
>>> microsoft.public.security.virus are no longer available from
>>> Microsoft. Since I haven't yet set up another account, I was going
>>> to post my question through Google Groups. However, I noticed the
>>> warning there that my email address would become public if I posted.
>>> Is there any way to disguise one's email address in groups in
>>> Internet Explorer--as one can in OE?
>>>
>>> I'm using WinXP fully updated on all of my computers.
>>>
>>> Thank you!
>>>
>>> Jo-Anne
>>>

>>

>
>
 
B

Bruce Hagen

Flightless Bird
Try this news server, Jo-Anne. I just set it up and it carries the groups
I had that were removed. You have to register with your real address, but
you can still use your munged address when you post.

Eternal-September
http://www.eternal-september.org/

--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP [Mail]
Imperial Beach, CA


"Jo-Anne" <Jo-AnneATnowhere.com> wrote in message
news:ursSJ7MBLHA.5464@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>I just tried to post in Outlook Express to the newsgroup
>microsoft.public.security.homeusers and found that it and
>microsoft.public.security.virus are no longer available from Microsoft.
>Since I haven't yet set up another account, I was going to post my
>question through Google Groups. However, I noticed the warning there that
>my email address would become public if I posted. Is there any way to
>disguise one's email address in groups in Internet Explorer--as one can
>in OE?
>
> I'm using WinXP fully updated on all of my computers.
>
> Thank you!
>
> Jo-Anne
>
 
J

Jo-Anne

Flightless Bird
Thank you! Now that I know Bruce has set up a usenet server, that's where
I'll go.

Jo-Anne

"FromTheRafters" <erratic @nomail.afraid.org> wrote in message
news:u5U8RYOBLHA.348@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Use a free 'throw-away' e-mail account - it helps to have one anyway.
>
> At this point, it would be easier to just sign up to a free usenet server.
>
> "Jo-Anne" <Jo-AnneATnowhere.com> wrote in message
> news:e0Vh0tNBLHA.444@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> Thank you, Michael! Google Groups says upfront that your email address
>> will appear with your post. I guess it's time to set up some sort of way
>> to do my posting in Outlook Express.
>>
>> Jo-Anne
>>
>> "Michael Santovec" <michael@santovec.XXX> wrote in message
>> news:eAgCgnNBLHA.4584@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>> That's up to the forum you are using. It's not really an Internet
>>> Explorer issue since it doesn't know your e-mail address.
>>>
>>> But some (most?) forums require you to setup and account in order to
>>> post. It's up to the forum as to whether they hide your e-mail address
>>> and other information.
>>>
>>> I don't know about Google groups.
>>>
>>> Microsoft doesn't reveal your e-mail address in the forums that it
>>> hosts, such as at
>>> http://answers.microsoft.com
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Mike - http://TechHelp.Santovec.us
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Jo-Anne" <Jo-AnneATnowhere.com> wrote in message
>>> news:ursSJ7MBLHA.5464@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>> I just tried to post in Outlook Express to the newsgroup
>>>> microsoft.public.security.homeusers and found that it and
>>>> microsoft.public.security.virus are no longer available from Microsoft.
>>>> Since I haven't yet set up another account, I was going to post my
>>>> question through Google Groups. However, I noticed the warning there
>>>> that my email address would become public if I posted. Is there any way
>>>> to disguise one's email address in groups in Internet Explorer--as one
>>>> can in OE?
>>>>
>>>> I'm using WinXP fully updated on all of my computers.
>>>>
>>>> Thank you!
>>>>
>>>> Jo-Anne
>>>>
>>>

>>
>>

>
>
 
J

Jo-Anne

Flightless Bird
Thank you, Bruce! I'll do that by tomorrow!

Jo-Anne

"Bruce Hagen" <BRH@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
news:euZNgfOBLHA.4500@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Try this news server, Jo-Anne. I just set it up and it carries the groups
> I had that were removed. You have to register with your real address, but
> you can still use your munged address when you post.
>
> Eternal-September
> http://www.eternal-september.org/
>
> --
> Bruce Hagen
> MS-MVP [Mail]
> Imperial Beach, CA
>
>
> "Jo-Anne" <Jo-AnneATnowhere.com> wrote in message
> news:ursSJ7MBLHA.5464@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>I just tried to post in Outlook Express to the newsgroup
>>microsoft.public.security.homeusers and found that it and
>>microsoft.public.security.virus are no longer available from Microsoft.
>>Since I haven't yet set up another account, I was going to post my
>>question through Google Groups. However, I noticed the warning there that
>>my email address would become public if I posted. Is there any way to
>>disguise one's email address in groups in Internet Explorer--as one can in
>>OE?
>>
>> I'm using WinXP fully updated on all of my computers.
>>
>> Thank you!
>>
>> Jo-Anne
>>

>
 
F

FromTheRafters

Flightless Bird
That's the same one I use (though not for this post) - it has been
'fairly' reliable.

"Jo-Anne" <Jo-AnneATnowhere.com> wrote in message
news:e$3VUiOBLHA.1368@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Thank you! Now that I know Bruce has set up a usenet server, that's
> where I'll go.
>
> Jo-Anne
>
> "FromTheRafters" <erratic @nomail.afraid.org> wrote in message
> news:u5U8RYOBLHA.348@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> Use a free 'throw-away' e-mail account - it helps to have one anyway.
>>
>> At this point, it would be easier to just sign up to a free usenet
>> server.
>>
>> "Jo-Anne" <Jo-AnneATnowhere.com> wrote in message
>> news:e0Vh0tNBLHA.444@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>> Thank you, Michael! Google Groups says upfront that your email
>>> address will appear with your post. I guess it's time to set up some
>>> sort of way to do my posting in Outlook Express.
>>>
>>> Jo-Anne
>>>
>>> "Michael Santovec" <michael@santovec.XXX> wrote in message
>>> news:eAgCgnNBLHA.4584@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>> That's up to the forum you are using. It's not really an Internet
>>>> Explorer issue since it doesn't know your e-mail address.
>>>>
>>>> But some (most?) forums require you to setup and account in order
>>>> to post. It's up to the forum as to whether they hide your e-mail
>>>> address and other information.
>>>>
>>>> I don't know about Google groups.
>>>>
>>>> Microsoft doesn't reveal your e-mail address in the forums that it
>>>> hosts, such as at
>>>> http://answers.microsoft.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> Mike - http://TechHelp.Santovec.us
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Jo-Anne" <Jo-AnneATnowhere.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:ursSJ7MBLHA.5464@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>> I just tried to post in Outlook Express to the newsgroup
>>>>> microsoft.public.security.homeusers and found that it and
>>>>> microsoft.public.security.virus are no longer available from
>>>>> Microsoft. Since I haven't yet set up another account, I was going
>>>>> to post my question through Google Groups. However, I noticed the
>>>>> warning there that my email address would become public if I
>>>>> posted. Is there any way to disguise one's email address in groups
>>>>> in Internet Explorer--as one can in OE?
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm using WinXP fully updated on all of my computers.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you!
>>>>>
>>>>> Jo-Anne
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>

>>
>>

>
>
 
H

Heather

Flightless Bird
Just as a word of appreciation, I have used eternal-september since it was
called Motzarella and I can honestly say that it is the best of the free
ones out there. There is a support/tech help group on that server and the
owner (Ray Banana) is very quick to sort things out.

Cheers...Heather

"Bruce Hagen" <BRH@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
news:euZNgfOBLHA.4500@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Try this news server, Jo-Anne. I just set it up and it carries the groups
> I had that were removed. You have to register with your real address, but
> you can still use your munged address when you post.
>
> Eternal-September
> http://www.eternal-september.org/
>
> --
> Bruce Hagen
> MS-MVP [Mail]
> Imperial Beach, CA
>
>
> "Jo-Anne" <Jo-AnneATnowhere.com> wrote in message
> news:ursSJ7MBLHA.5464@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>I just tried to post in Outlook Express to the newsgroup
>>microsoft.public.security.homeusers and found that it and
>>microsoft.public.security.virus are no longer available from Microsoft.
>>Since I haven't yet set up another account, I was going to post my
>>question through Google Groups. However, I noticed the warning there that
>>my email address would become public if I posted. Is there any way to
>>disguise one's email address in groups in Internet Explorer--as one can in
>>OE?
>>
>> I'm using WinXP fully updated on all of my computers.
>>
>> Thank you!
>>
>> Jo-Anne
>>

>
 
J

Jo-Anne

Flightless Bird
Help, Bruce! I set up my Eternal-September account, and everything looked
fine--but I can't post. I get "Outlook Express could not post your message.
Subject 'Re: internet posts with disguised email address?', Account:
'news.eternal-september.org', Server: 'news.eternal-september.org',
Protocol: NNTP, Server Response: '441 From: address not in Internet syntax',
Port: 119, Secure(SSL): No, Server Error: 441, Error Number: 0x800CCCA9."

What did I do wrong?

Thank you!

Jo-Anne


"Bruce Hagen" <BRH@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
news:euZNgfOBLHA.4500@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Try this news server, Jo-Anne. I just set it up and it carries the groups
> I had that were removed. You have to register with your real address, but
> you can still use your munged address when you post.
>
> Eternal-September
> http://www.eternal-september.org/
>
> --
> Bruce Hagen
> MS-MVP [Mail]
> Imperial Beach, CA
>
>
> "Jo-Anne" <Jo-AnneATnowhere.com> wrote in message
> news:ursSJ7MBLHA.5464@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>I just tried to post in Outlook Express to the newsgroup
>>microsoft.public.security.homeusers and found that it and
>>microsoft.public.security.virus are no longer available from Microsoft.
>>Since I haven't yet set up another account, I was going to post my
>>question through Google Groups. However, I noticed the warning there that
>>my email address would become public if I posted. Is there any way to
>>disguise one's email address in groups in Internet Explorer--as one can in
>>OE?
>>
>> I'm using WinXP fully updated on all of my computers.
>>
>> Thank you!
>>
>> Jo-Anne
>>

>
 
J

Jo-Anne

Flightless Bird
Hi, again, Bruce,

I had to delete my account name and password from Eternal-September in order
to post from my old Microsoft account. Otherwise, nothing at all went
through to the newsgroups. And I seem to have lost my Corel newsgroups
completely. I get "unable to connect to the server" whenever I try to access
the Corel newsgroups. Maybe two different issues? I'm lost!

Jo-Anne

"Bruce Hagen" <BRH@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
news:euZNgfOBLHA.4500@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Try this news server, Jo-Anne. I just set it up and it carries the groups
> I had that were removed. You have to register with your real address, but
> you can still use your munged address when you post.
>
> Eternal-September
> http://www.eternal-september.org/
>
> --
> Bruce Hagen
> MS-MVP [Mail]
> Imperial Beach, CA
>
>
> "Jo-Anne" <Jo-AnneATnowhere.com> wrote in message
> news:ursSJ7MBLHA.5464@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>I just tried to post in Outlook Express to the newsgroup
>>microsoft.public.security.homeusers and found that it and
>>microsoft.public.security.virus are no longer available from Microsoft.
>>Since I haven't yet set up another account, I was going to post my
>>question through Google Groups. However, I noticed the warning there that
>>my email address would become public if I posted. Is there any way to
>>disguise one's email address in groups in Internet Explorer--as one can in
>>OE?
>>
>> I'm using WinXP fully updated on all of my computers.
>>
>> Thank you!
>>
>> Jo-Anne
>>

>
 
V

VanguardLH

Flightless Bird
Jo-Anne wrote:

> I just tried to post in Outlook Express to the newsgroup
> microsoft.public.security.homeusers and found that it and
> microsoft.public.security.virus are no longer available from Microsoft.
> Since I haven't yet set up another account, I was going to post my question
> through Google Groups. However, I noticed the warning there that my email
> address would become public if I posted. Is there any way to disguise one's
> email address in groups in Internet Explorer--as one can in OE?
>
> I'm using WinXP fully updated on all of my computers.
>
> Thank you!
>
> Jo-Anne


So create another newsgroup-posting Gmail account. Use it when you want
to use Google Groups. Just because you created a Gmail account doesn't
mean you have to poll it for new e-mails; however, an idle account will
eventually expire but if you use it often enough for your newsgroup
posts then your Gmail account remains active. You could also define a
server-side filter to simply discard all e-mails sent to that
newsgroups-only Gmail account to help Google not waste the disk space to
store them.

If you actually want to use the Gmail account to move offline some
newsgroup discussion (i.e., rudely rip it away from the newsgroup to
continue the discussion via e-mail), you could require that some special
string be included in the Subject header. If an e-mail arrives in your
mailbox without that passcode in the Subject then it gets immediately
discarded. Users can see your instructions for including the passcode
in the Subject in your signature but spambots roaming the newsgroups to
harvest e-mail addresses can't follow the instructions in your
signature.

With a local NNTP client, you can munge your e-mail address. You can't
do that when using Gmail's webnews-for-boobs interface to Usenet.
You're stuck using whatever Gmail account you logged on with. So use a
separate Gmail account used only for when you, to get grouped with all
their other GG boobs, decide to use their webnews client. Then add a
signature if and when you want to note in some of your posts that you
are willing to take the discussion offline via e-mail and that those
respondents must insert a passcode string in the Subject header.

You would post using:

From: <yournewsgrouponlyaccount>@gmail.com
<body of post>
--
To send e-mail, append "##JA78@@" to Subject; otherwise, e-mails are
immediately discarded.

I used an example passcode string above. Use whatever you feel like but
which is highly unlikely to be a legitimate string you ever see in the
Subject header. Don't make it too long to irritate real humans that
want to send you e-mail but just long enough to ensure it is a string
that is not likely to ever appear in legitimate e-mails. For the
server-side filter, use something like:

Matches: -{Subject:##JA78@@}

With a real client, there wouldn't be a problem using non-alphanumeric
characters in the string. I believe that Google strips out those
characters in a search (and why Google searching sucks when you *do*
want to specify a non-alphanumeric in a search, like "--i++" when you
want to find articles mentioning pre-decrementing and then
post-incrementing a variable). So you'll probably have to use something
other than the example "##JA78@@". Maybe your moniker spelled
backwards, like "ennaoj". I'm not big on using Gmail nor on Google's
special search parameters so maybe someone else can come up with a
better passcode on which Google's search will actually work.

As I recall, Google Groups doesn't let you configure a signature to
automatically add to your posts when using their webnews-for-boobs
client, so you'll have to add it when you want to note how Usenetters
can send you e-mail. If you use a 3rd party clipboard manager, like
ClipMate or ClipMagic, you can save canned content that you can later
paste into any document, like your newsgroup posts.

Even if some asshole submits your newsgroups-only e-mail address to some
spammers mailing list, those spammers won't know to add the passcode to
the Subject header so their spam gets immediately discarded from your
Gmail account by your server-side rule. Basically you are creating an
exclusively accessed e-mail account where only e-mails that are
passcoded are allowed to remain in the mailbox. They'll arrive but get
immediately trashed.

So if you feel compelled to get lumped in with the Google Grouping boob
crowd by using Google's webnews-for-boobs interface to Usenet, I'd
suggest creating a separate Gmail account just for when you post to
newsgroups. If you never want to take discussions offline via e-mail
then simply never bother to look at what e-mails are in that Gmail
account, or use a server-side filter that discards every e-mail that
gets received there. An easy way would be to add 2 filters: one that
looks for "a" in the Subject and another that looks for "Doesn't have:
subject:a" so you're looking for a Subject that does and doesn't have
"a" which is impossible to satisfy both). If you do want to use that
special-use Gmail account to take discussions offline then use the
passcode idea to only get e-mails from real humans, not bots or mailing
lists, because they would've had to follow your instructions in your
signature to append the passcode.

Why the hell would you want to use Google Groups to post? You already
know that many users already killfile the Google Groupers since that is
a source of spam in newsgroups along with the general tendency of those
posters submitting knee-jerk posts and who are too lazy to do any of
their own research and want us to change their diapers for them, too.
The webnews-for-boobs interface providing by Google Groups is nowhere as
potent as using a real newsreader client on your own host connecting to
an NNTP server. Why not use a free NNTP server to access Usenet, like
Albasani or Eternal-September, or a really cheap one, like
individual.net ($16USD/yr)? Microsoft's NNTP server only carried the
microsoft.public.* newsgroups but the others (free or paid) carry those
groups and much more. The free NNTP servers only carry text groups but
then so did the free Microsoft NNTP server.
 
B

Bruce Hagen

Flightless Bird
I just set my account up a few hours ago, so I don't know how much help I
can be. But..................

Did you create an account with a real e-mail address?

Did you get a confirmation with your user ID and a temporary password?

Did you enter the user ID and password in Tools | Accounts | Mail |
Properties | Server Tab?

Did you check Remember Password?

What did you use for a munged domain? Some are not acceptable.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP [Mail]
Imperial Beach, CA




"Jo-Anne" <Jo-AnneATnowhere.com> wrote in message
news:%23pMt6CRBLHA.6116@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Help, Bruce! I set up my Eternal-September account, and everything
> looked fine--but I can't post. I get "Outlook Express could not post
> your message. Subject 'Re: internet posts with disguised email
> address?', Account: 'news.eternal-september.org', Server:
> 'news.eternal-september.org', Protocol: NNTP, Server Response: '441
> From: address not in Internet syntax', Port: 119, Secure(SSL): No,
> Server Error: 441, Error Number: 0x800CCCA9."
>
> What did I do wrong?
>
> Thank you!
>
> Jo-Anne
>
>
> "Bruce Hagen" <BRH@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
> news:euZNgfOBLHA.4500@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> Try this news server, Jo-Anne. I just set it up and it carries the
>> groups I had that were removed. You have to register with your real
>> address, but you can still use your munged address when you post.
>>
>> Eternal-September
>> http://www.eternal-september.org/
>>
>> --
>> Bruce Hagen
>> MS-MVP [Mail]
>> Imperial Beach, CA
>>
>>
>> "Jo-Anne" <Jo-AnneATnowhere.com> wrote in message
>> news:ursSJ7MBLHA.5464@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>I just tried to post in Outlook Express to the newsgroup
>>>microsoft.public.security.homeusers and found that it and
>>>microsoft.public.security.virus are no longer available from Microsoft.
>>>Since I haven't yet set up another account, I was going to post my
>>>question through Google Groups. However, I noticed the warning there
>>>that my email address would become public if I posted. Is there any way
>>>to disguise one's email address in groups in Internet Explorer--as one
>>>can in OE?
>>>
>>> I'm using WinXP fully updated on all of my computers.
>>>
>>> Thank you!
>>>
>>> Jo-Anne
>>>

>>

>
>
 
B

Bruce Hagen

Flightless Bird
Are you using Corel's news server? Shouldn't be an issue if you are.

cnews.corel.com if I remember correctly.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP [Mail]
Imperial Beach, CA


"Jo-Anne" <Jo-AnneATnowhere.com> wrote in message
news:uPNevHRBLHA.1368@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Hi, again, Bruce,
>
> I had to delete my account name and password from Eternal-September in
> order to post from my old Microsoft account. Otherwise, nothing at all
> went through to the newsgroups. And I seem to have lost my Corel
> newsgroups completely. I get "unable to connect to the server" whenever
> I try to access the Corel newsgroups. Maybe two different issues? I'm
> lost!
>
> Jo-Anne
>
> "Bruce Hagen" <BRH@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
> news:euZNgfOBLHA.4500@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> Try this news server, Jo-Anne. I just set it up and it carries the
>> groups I had that were removed. You have to register with your real
>> address, but you can still use your munged address when you post.
>>
>> Eternal-September
>> http://www.eternal-september.org/
>>
>> --
>> Bruce Hagen
>> MS-MVP [Mail]
>> Imperial Beach, CA
>>
>>
>> "Jo-Anne" <Jo-AnneATnowhere.com> wrote in message
>> news:ursSJ7MBLHA.5464@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>I just tried to post in Outlook Express to the newsgroup
>>>microsoft.public.security.homeusers and found that it and
>>>microsoft.public.security.virus are no longer available from Microsoft.
>>>Since I haven't yet set up another account, I was going to post my
>>>question through Google Groups. However, I noticed the warning there
>>>that my email address would become public if I posted. Is there any way
>>>to disguise one's email address in groups in Internet Explorer--as one
>>>can in OE?
>>>
>>> I'm using WinXP fully updated on all of my computers.
>>>
>>> Thank you!
>>>
>>> Jo-Anne
>>>

>>

>
>
 
J

Jo-Anne

Flightless Bird
I am using Corel's news server, but I can't connect. I tried unsubscribing
and resubscribing, but it made no difference.

Jo-Anne

"Bruce Hagen" <BRH@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
news:eAP%23mMRBLHA.1972@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Are you using Corel's news server? Shouldn't be an issue if you are.
>
> cnews.corel.com if I remember correctly.
> --
> Bruce Hagen
> MS-MVP [Mail]
> Imperial Beach, CA
>
>
> "Jo-Anne" <Jo-AnneATnowhere.com> wrote in message
> news:uPNevHRBLHA.1368@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> Hi, again, Bruce,
>>
>> I had to delete my account name and password from Eternal-September in
>> order to post from my old Microsoft account. Otherwise, nothing at all
>> went through to the newsgroups. And I seem to have lost my Corel
>> newsgroups completely. I get "unable to connect to the server" whenever I
>> try to access the Corel newsgroups. Maybe two different issues? I'm lost!
>>
>> Jo-Anne
>>
>> "Bruce Hagen" <BRH@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:euZNgfOBLHA.4500@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>> Try this news server, Jo-Anne. I just set it up and it carries the
>>> groups I had that were removed. You have to register with your real
>>> address, but you can still use your munged address when you post.
>>>
>>> Eternal-September
>>> http://www.eternal-september.org/
>>>
>>> --
>>> Bruce Hagen
>>> MS-MVP [Mail]
>>> Imperial Beach, CA
>>>
>>>
>>> "Jo-Anne" <Jo-AnneATnowhere.com> wrote in message
>>> news:ursSJ7MBLHA.5464@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>I just tried to post in Outlook Express to the newsgroup
>>>>microsoft.public.security.homeusers and found that it and
>>>>microsoft.public.security.virus are no longer available from Microsoft.
>>>>Since I haven't yet set up another account, I was going to post my
>>>>question through Google Groups. However, I noticed the warning there
>>>>that my email address would become public if I posted. Is there any way
>>>>to disguise one's email address in groups in Internet Explorer--as one
>>>>can in OE?
>>>>
>>>> I'm using WinXP fully updated on all of my computers.
>>>>
>>>> Thank you!
>>>>
>>>> Jo-Anne
>>>>
>>>

>>
>>

>
 
B

Bruce Hagen

Flightless Bird
ES should not affect Corel any more than MMSNews did. As a matter of fact,
you mentioned having to delete the ES account PW to send from MSNews. I
have both running. ES should not change anything about your other servers
when installed.

Did you set it up like a new server? Tools | Accounts | Add | Newsgroup
Account............etc?
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP [Mail]
Imperial Beach, CA


"Jo-Anne" <Jo-AnneATnowhere.com> wrote in message
news:etVarORBLHA.1888@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>I am using Corel's news server, but I can't connect. I tried
>unsubscribing and resubscribing, but it made no difference.
>
> Jo-Anne
>
> "Bruce Hagen" <BRH@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
> news:eAP%23mMRBLHA.1972@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> Are you using Corel's news server? Shouldn't be an issue if you are.
>>
>> cnews.corel.com if I remember correctly.
>> --
>> Bruce Hagen
>> MS-MVP [Mail]
>> Imperial Beach, CA
>>
>>
>> "Jo-Anne" <Jo-AnneATnowhere.com> wrote in message
>> news:uPNevHRBLHA.1368@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>> Hi, again, Bruce,
>>>
>>> I had to delete my account name and password from Eternal-September in
>>> order to post from my old Microsoft account. Otherwise, nothing at all
>>> went through to the newsgroups. And I seem to have lost my Corel
>>> newsgroups completely. I get "unable to connect to the server"
>>> whenever I try to access the Corel newsgroups. Maybe two different
>>> issues? I'm lost!
>>>
>>> Jo-Anne
>>>
>>> "Bruce Hagen" <BRH@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
>>> news:euZNgfOBLHA.4500@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>> Try this news server, Jo-Anne. I just set it up and it carries the
>>>> groups I had that were removed. You have to register with your real
>>>> address, but you can still use your munged address when you post.
>>>>
>>>> Eternal-September
>>>> http://www.eternal-september.org/
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Bruce Hagen
>>>> MS-MVP [Mail]
>>>> Imperial Beach, CA
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Jo-Anne" <Jo-AnneATnowhere.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:ursSJ7MBLHA.5464@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>>I just tried to post in Outlook Express to the newsgroup
>>>>>microsoft.public.security.homeusers and found that it and
>>>>>microsoft.public.security.virus are no longer available from
>>>>>Microsoft. Since I haven't yet set up another account, I was going to
>>>>>post my question through Google Groups. However, I noticed the
>>>>>warning there that my email address would become public if I posted.
>>>>>Is there any way to disguise one's email address in groups in
>>>>>Internet Explorer--as one can in OE?
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm using WinXP fully updated on all of my computers.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you!
>>>>>
>>>>> Jo-Anne
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>

>>

>
>
 
J

Jo-Anne

Flightless Bird
Thank you, Bruce! Answers below.
Jo-Anne

<snip>

> Did you create an account with a real e-mail address?

Yes, I did use a real email address.


> Did you get a confirmation with your user ID and a temporary password?

I did--and then I changed the password online, and the change was accepted.


> Did you enter the user ID and password in Tools | Accounts | Mail |
> Properties | Server Tab?

Not sure exactly what I did there, now that I deleted it. The Server Tab
wants an Account Name. Is that the user ID I got in the emailed
confirmation? I thought at this point maybe it should be my email address. I
can try the user ID to see if that works--if you think that might be the
issue. This is the first news server that wants this kind of setup, so I
didn't have anything to look at.
>


> Did you check Remember Password?

Yes, I checked Remember Password. Should I also check the box for secure
password authentication?

>
> What did you use for a munged domain? Some are not acceptable.

I used my usual: Jo-AnneATnowhere.com
> --
> Bruce Hagen
> MS-MVP [Mail]
> Imperial Beach, CA
>
>
> "Jo-Anne" <Jo-AnneATnowhere.com> wrote in message
> news:%23pMt6CRBLHA.6116@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> Help, Bruce! I set up my Eternal-September account, and everything looked
>> fine--but I can't post. I get "Outlook Express could not post your
>> message. Subject 'Re: internet posts with disguised email address?',
>> Account: 'news.eternal-september.org', Server:
>> 'news.eternal-september.org', Protocol: NNTP, Server Response: '441 From:
>> address not in Internet syntax', Port: 119, Secure(SSL): No, Server
>> Error: 441, Error Number: 0x800CCCA9."
>>
>> What did I do wrong?
>>
>> Thank you!
>>
>> Jo-Anne
>>
>>
>> "Bruce Hagen" <BRH@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:euZNgfOBLHA.4500@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>> Try this news server, Jo-Anne. I just set it up and it carries the
>>> groups I had that were removed. You have to register with your real
>>> address, but you can still use your munged address when you post.
>>>
>>> Eternal-September
>>> http://www.eternal-september.org/
>>>
>>> --
>>> Bruce Hagen
>>> MS-MVP [Mail]
>>> Imperial Beach, CA
>>>
>>>
>>> "Jo-Anne" <Jo-AnneATnowhere.com> wrote in message
>>> news:ursSJ7MBLHA.5464@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>I just tried to post in Outlook Express to the newsgroup
>>>>microsoft.public.security.homeusers and found that it and
>>>>microsoft.public.security.virus are no longer available from Microsoft.
>>>>Since I haven't yet set up another account, I was going to post my
>>>>question through Google Groups. However, I noticed the warning there
>>>>that my email address would become public if I posted. Is there any way
>>>>to disguise one's email address in groups in Internet Explorer--as one
>>>>can in OE?
>>>>
>>>> I'm using WinXP fully updated on all of my computers.
>>>>
>>>> Thank you!
>>>>
>>>> Jo-Anne
>>>>
>>>

>>
>>

>
 
J

Jo-Anne

Flightless Bird
Yep, that's how I set it up. I suppose it's possible something has happened
to the Corel server. I hadn't checked the newsgroups in a few weeks...

I'm guessing that as far as MMSNews, something I did in the Account
Name/Password setup for the E-S server screwed it up, given that when I
deleted that info entirely, MMSNews worked again.

Jo-Anne

"Bruce Hagen" <BRH@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
news:-OhG99SRBLHA.4584@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> ES should not affect Corel any more than MMSNews did. As a matter of fact,
> you mentioned having to delete the ES account PW to send from MSNews. I
> have both running. ES should not change anything about your other servers
> when installed.
>
> Did you set it up like a new server? Tools | Accounts | Add | Newsgroup
> Account............etc?
> --
> Bruce Hagen
> MS-MVP [Mail]
> Imperial Beach, CA
>
>
> "Jo-Anne" <Jo-AnneATnowhere.com> wrote in message
> news:etVarORBLHA.1888@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>I am using Corel's news server, but I can't connect. I tried unsubscribing
>>and resubscribing, but it made no difference.
>>
>> Jo-Anne
>>
>> "Bruce Hagen" <BRH@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:eAP%23mMRBLHA.1972@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>> Are you using Corel's news server? Shouldn't be an issue if you are.
>>>
>>> cnews.corel.com if I remember correctly.
>>> --
>>> Bruce Hagen
>>> MS-MVP [Mail]
>>> Imperial Beach, CA
>>>
>>>
>>> "Jo-Anne" <Jo-AnneATnowhere.com> wrote in message
>>> news:uPNevHRBLHA.1368@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>> Hi, again, Bruce,
>>>>
>>>> I had to delete my account name and password from Eternal-September in
>>>> order to post from my old Microsoft account. Otherwise, nothing at all
>>>> went through to the newsgroups. And I seem to have lost my Corel
>>>> newsgroups completely. I get "unable to connect to the server" whenever
>>>> I try to access the Corel newsgroups. Maybe two different issues? I'm
>>>> lost!
>>>>
>>>> Jo-Anne
>>>>
>>>> "Bruce Hagen" <BRH@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
>>>> news:euZNgfOBLHA.4500@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Try this news server, Jo-Anne. I just set it up and it carries the
>>>>> groups I had that were removed. You have to register with your real
>>>>> address, but you can still use your munged address when you post.
>>>>>
>>>>> Eternal-September
>>>>> http://www.eternal-september.org/
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Bruce Hagen
>>>>> MS-MVP [Mail]
>>>>> Imperial Beach, CA
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Jo-Anne" <Jo-AnneATnowhere.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:ursSJ7MBLHA.5464@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>I just tried to post in Outlook Express to the newsgroup
>>>>>>microsoft.public.security.homeusers and found that it and
>>>>>>microsoft.public.security.virus are no longer available from
>>>>>>Microsoft. Since I haven't yet set up another account, I was going to
>>>>>>post my question through Google Groups. However, I noticed the warning
>>>>>>there that my email address would become public if I posted. Is there
>>>>>>any way to disguise one's email address in groups in Internet
>>>>>>Explorer--as one can in OE?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm using WinXP fully updated on all of my computers.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jo-Anne
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>

>>
>>

>
 
B

Bruce Hagen

Flightless Bird

>> Did you enter the user ID and password in Tools | Accounts | Mail |
>> Properties | Server Tab?

> Not sure exactly what I did there, now that I deleted it. The Server Tab
> wants an Account Name. Is that the user ID I got in the emailed
> confirmation? I thought at this point maybe it should be my email
> address. I can try the user ID to see if that works--if you think that
> might be the issue. This is the first news server that wants this kind
> of setup, so I didn't have anything to look at.


In the Server Ta==tab:

The account name is:
news.eternal-september.org

The user ID and PW is what was e-mailed to you.

Do not check Secure PW Authentication.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP [Mail]
Imperial Beach, CA


"Jo-Anne" <Jo-AnneATnowhere.com> wrote in message
news:%23v4CQVRBLHA.4388@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Thank you, Bruce! Answers below.
> Jo-Anne
>
> <snip>
>
>> Did you create an account with a real e-mail address?

> Yes, I did use a real email address.
>
>
>> Did you get a confirmation with your user ID and a temporary password?

> I did--and then I changed the password online, and the change was
> accepted.
>
>
>> Did you enter the user ID and password in Tools | Accounts | Mail |
>> Properties | Server Tab?

> Not sure exactly what I did there, now that I deleted it. The Server Tab
> wants an Account Name. Is that the user ID I got in the emailed
> confirmation? I thought at this point maybe it should be my email
> address. I can try the user ID to see if that works--if you think that
> might be the issue. This is the first news server that wants this kind
> of setup, so I didn't have anything to look at.
>>

>
>> Did you check Remember Password?

> Yes, I checked Remember Password. Should I also check the box for
> secure password authentication?
>
>>
>> What did you use for a munged domain? Some are not acceptable.

> I used my usual: Jo-AnneATnowhere.com
>> --
>> Bruce Hagen
>> MS-MVP [Mail]
>> Imperial Beach, CA
>>
>>
>> "Jo-Anne" <Jo-AnneATnowhere.com> wrote in message
>> news:%23pMt6CRBLHA.6116@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>> Help, Bruce! I set up my Eternal-September account, and everything
>>> looked fine--but I can't post. I get "Outlook Express could not post
>>> your message. Subject 'Re: internet posts with disguised email
>>> address?', Account: 'news.eternal-september.org', Server:
>>> 'news.eternal-september.org', Protocol: NNTP, Server Response: '441
>>> From: address not in Internet syntax', Port: 119, Secure(SSL): No,
>>> Server Error: 441, Error Number: 0x800CCCA9."
>>>
>>> What did I do wrong?
>>>
>>> Thank you!
>>>
>>> Jo-Anne
>>>
>>>
>>> "Bruce Hagen" <BRH@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
>>> news:euZNgfOBLHA.4500@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>> Try this news server, Jo-Anne. I just set it up and it carries the
>>>> groups I had that were removed. You have to register with your real
>>>> address, but you can still use your munged address when you post.
>>>>
>>>> Eternal-September
>>>> http://www.eternal-september.org/
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Bruce Hagen
>>>> MS-MVP [Mail]
>>>> Imperial Beach, CA
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Jo-Anne" <Jo-AnneATnowhere.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:ursSJ7MBLHA.5464@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>>I just tried to post in Outlook Express to the newsgroup
>>>>>microsoft.public.security.homeusers and found that it and
>>>>>microsoft.public.security.virus are no longer available from
>>>>>Microsoft. Since I haven't yet set up another account, I was going to
>>>>>post my question through Google Groups. However, I noticed the
>>>>>warning there that my email address would become public if I posted.
>>>>>Is there any way to disguise one's email address in groups in
>>>>>Internet Explorer--as one can in OE?
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm using WinXP fully updated on all of my computers.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you!
>>>>>
>>>>> Jo-Anne
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>

>>

>
>
 
J

Jo-Anne

Flightless Bird
Hi, again, Bruce. In the Server tab, news.eternal-september.org is the
server name. I then checked the box "This server requires me to log on,"
which opened the Account Name and password. Should I NOT have checked that
box? It's unchecked now, and I can't get or send any posts. If it SHOULD be
checked, then I have to fill in the Account Name, which I'm guessing is
something particular to me, since it's followed by the password.

Jo-Anne

"Bruce Hagen" <BRH@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
news:%23BI35gRBLHA.5808@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>> Did you enter the user ID and password in Tools | Accounts | Mail |
>>> Properties | Server Tab?

>> Not sure exactly what I did there, now that I deleted it. The Server Tab
>> wants an Account Name. Is that the user ID I got in the emailed
>> confirmation? I thought at this point maybe it should be my email
>> address. I can try the user ID to see if that works--if you think that
>> might be the issue. This is the first news server that wants this kind of
>> setup, so I didn't have anything to look at.

>
> In the Server Ta==tab:
>
> The account name is:
> news.eternal-september.org
>
> The user ID and PW is what was e-mailed to you.
>
> Do not check Secure PW Authentication.
> --
> Bruce Hagen
> MS-MVP [Mail]
> Imperial Beach, CA
>
>
> "Jo-Anne" <Jo-AnneATnowhere.com> wrote in message
> news:%23v4CQVRBLHA.4388@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> Thank you, Bruce! Answers below.
>> Jo-Anne
>>
>> <snip>
>>
>>> Did you create an account with a real e-mail address?

>> Yes, I did use a real email address.
>>
>>
>>> Did you get a confirmation with your user ID and a temporary password?

>> I did--and then I changed the password online, and the change was
>> accepted.
>>
>>
>>> Did you enter the user ID and password in Tools | Accounts | Mail |
>>> Properties | Server Tab?

>> Not sure exactly what I did there, now that I deleted it. The Server Tab
>> wants an Account Name. Is that the user ID I got in the emailed
>> confirmation? I thought at this point maybe it should be my email
>> address. I can try the user ID to see if that works--if you think that
>> might be the issue. This is the first news server that wants this kind of
>> setup, so I didn't have anything to look at.
>>>

>>
>>> Did you check Remember Password?

>> Yes, I checked Remember Password. Should I also check the box for secure
>> password authentication?
>>
>>>
>>> What did you use for a munged domain? Some are not acceptable.

>> I used my usual: Jo-AnneATnowhere.com
>>> --
>>> Bruce Hagen
>>> MS-MVP [Mail]
>>> Imperial Beach, CA
>>>
>>>
>>> "Jo-Anne" <Jo-AnneATnowhere.com> wrote in message
>>> news:%23pMt6CRBLHA.6116@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>> Help, Bruce! I set up my Eternal-September account, and everything
>>>> looked fine--but I can't post. I get "Outlook Express could not post
>>>> your message. Subject 'Re: internet posts with disguised email
>>>> address?', Account: 'news.eternal-september.org', Server:
>>>> 'news.eternal-september.org', Protocol: NNTP, Server Response: '441
>>>> From: address not in Internet syntax', Port: 119, Secure(SSL): No,
>>>> Server Error: 441, Error Number: 0x800CCCA9."
>>>>
>>>> What did I do wrong?
>>>>
>>>> Thank you!
>>>>
>>>> Jo-Anne
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Bruce Hagen" <BRH@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
>>>> news:euZNgfOBLHA.4500@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Try this news server, Jo-Anne. I just set it up and it carries the
>>>>> groups I had that were removed. You have to register with your real
>>>>> address, but you can still use your munged address when you post.
>>>>>
>>>>> Eternal-September
>>>>> http://www.eternal-september.org/
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Bruce Hagen
>>>>> MS-MVP [Mail]
>>>>> Imperial Beach, CA
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Jo-Anne" <Jo-AnneATnowhere.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:ursSJ7MBLHA.5464@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>I just tried to post in Outlook Express to the newsgroup
>>>>>>microsoft.public.security.homeusers and found that it and
>>>>>>microsoft.public.security.virus are no longer available from
>>>>>>Microsoft. Since I haven't yet set up another account, I was going to
>>>>>>post my question through Google Groups. However, I noticed the warning
>>>>>>there that my email address would become public if I posted. Is there
>>>>>>any way to disguise one's email address in groups in Internet
>>>>>>Explorer--as one can in OE?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm using WinXP fully updated on all of my computers.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jo-Anne
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>

>>
>>

>
 
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