Installing XP on one computer for another.

[duckstandard]

Hi, I was wondering if anybody knows when windows xp registers
hardware on install. Like this, when you install windows xp it copies
all the files I assume, then reboots, then installs windows.

I was wondering if I could stop the computer before it reboots, put
the drive in another computer and resume the install where it may then
register the motherboard, hardware, and drivers and all that?

I know I have completely stopped the install before it reboots and
start it and it installs just fine, just haven't moved the hard drive
to another computer to resume the install. Any thought on this?

 

[rf]

"duckstandard" <duckstand@lavabit.com> wrote in message
news:5214dad9-b641-42c0-a88a-3fbd380159b0@z11g2000yqz.googlegroups.com...
> Hi, I was wondering if anybody knows when windows xp registers
> hardware on install. Like this, when you install windows xp it copies
> all the files I assume, then reboots, then installs windows.
>
> I was wondering if I could stop the computer before it reboots, put
> the drive in another computer and resume the install where it may then
> register the motherboard, hardware, and drivers and all that?
>
> I know I have completely stopped the install before it reboots and
> start it and it installs just fine, just haven't moved the hard drive
> to another computer to resume the install. Any thought on this?

Why would you want to do this?

 

[duckstandard]

rf wrote:
> "duckstandard" <duckstand@lavabit.com> wrote in message
> news:5214dad9-b641-42c0-a88a-3fbd380159b0@z11g2000yqz.googlegroups.com...
> > Hi, I was wondering if anybody knows when windows xp registers
> > hardware on install. Like this, when you install windows xp it copies
> > all the files I assume, then reboots, then installs windows.
> >
> > I was wondering if I could stop the computer before it reboots, put
> > the drive in another computer and resume the install where it may then
> > register the motherboard, hardware, and drivers and all that?
> >
> > I know I have completely stopped the install before it reboots and
> > start it and it installs just fine, just haven't moved the hard drive
> > to another computer to resume the install. Any thought on this?
>
> Why would you want to do this?

For many reason, one just to see if it can be done. Another is to have
an install ready to work on and with whatever computer it's put in.

Lets say another computer doesn't have a working cd drive, can one
start the install where it merely copies files and stop it just before
it reboots, and then put it in the other computer without the working
cd drive to finish installing and setup on 'that' computer.

 

[rf]

"duckstandard" <duckstand@lavabit.com> wrote in message
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>
> rf wrote:
>> "duckstandard" <duckstand@lavabit.com> wrote in message
>> news:5214dad9-b641-42c0-a88a-3fbd380159b0@z11g2000yqz.googlegroups.com...
>> > Hi, I was wondering if anybody knows when windows xp registers
>> > hardware on install. Like this, when you install windows xp it copies
>> > all the files I assume, then reboots, then installs windows.

What happened when you tried it?

>> Why would you want to do this?
>
> For many reason, one just to see if it can be done. Another is to have
> an install ready to work on and with whatever computer it's put in.

What happened when you tried it?

> Lets say another computer doesn't have a working cd drive,

So install a new bloody CD drive.

> can one
> start the install where it merely copies files and stop it just before
> it reboots, and then put it in the other computer without the working
> cd drive to finish installing and setup on 'that' computer.

A whole lot bloody easlier to simpy install a new CD drive.

 

[John Holmes]

duckstandard "contributed" in 24hoursupport.helpdesk:

> Hi, I was wondering if anybody knows when windows xp registers
> hardware on install. Like this, when you install windows xp it copies
> all the files I assume, then reboots, then installs windows.
>
> I was wondering if I could stop the computer before it reboots, put
> the drive in another computer and resume the install where it may then
> register the motherboard, hardware, and drivers and all that?
>
> I know I have completely stopped the install before it reboots and
> start it and it installs just fine, just haven't moved the hard drive
> to another computer to resume the install. Any thought on this?

The way to do this properly is:
Install windows normally, then run "sysprep" to bring the installation in
a state from which you make an image. Install this image on as many
harddrives as you desire, put them in as many computers as you'd like and
on first boot windows setup runs and will install it's native drivers.
Ofcourse, you'll still need the hardware specific drivers.
For more info, read this:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/302577

HTH

--
<snip>

 

[HeyBub]

rf wrote:
> "duckstandard" <duckstand@lavabit.com> wrote in message
> news:96eec0f9-21e7-43f3-9ca5-af6181db1bc2@f35g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> rf wrote:
>>> "duckstandard" <duckstand@lavabit.com> wrote in message
>>> news:5214dad9-b641-42c0-a88a-3fbd380159b0@z11g2000yqz.googlegroups.com...
>>>> Hi, I was wondering if anybody knows when windows xp registers
>>>> hardware on install. Like this, when you install windows xp it
>>>> copies all the files I assume, then reboots, then installs windows.
>
> What happened when you tried it?
>
>>> Why would you want to do this?
>>
>> For many reason, one just to see if it can be done. Another is to
>> have an install ready to work on and with whatever computer it's put
>> in.
>
> What happened when you tried it?
>
>> Lets say another computer doesn't have a working cd drive,
>
> So install a new bloody CD drive.
>
>> can one
>> start the install where it merely copies files and stop it just
>> before it reboots, and then put it in the other computer without the
>> working cd drive to finish installing and setup on 'that' computer.
>
> A whole lot bloody easlier to simpy install a new CD drive.

In the suggested solution, one has to remove the hard drive and install it
in another machine. Alternatively, one could remove a working CD-drive and
install it in the target machine.

Same amount in removal and installing either way, but the latter seems like
less trouble.

Plus, many folks have a few CD-drives lying about that are not being used
(they were slow, read only, or otherwise demoted).

 

[PA Bear [MS MVP]]

Send an email to piracy@microsoft.com and they'll help you with this.
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002


duckstandard wrote:
> Hi, I was wondering if anybody knows when windows xp registers
> hardware on install. Like this, when you install windows xp it copies
> all the files I assume, then reboots, then installs windows.
>
> I was wondering if I could stop the computer before it reboots, put
> the drive in another computer and resume the install where it may then
> register the motherboard, hardware, and drivers and all that?
>
> I know I have completely stopped the install before it reboots and
> start it and it installs just fine, just haven't moved the hard drive
> to another computer to resume the install. Any thought on this?

 

[chuckcar]

duckstandard <duckstand@lavabit.com> wrote in
news:5214dad9-b641-42c0-a88a-3fbd380159b0@z11g2000yqz.googlegroups.com:

> Hi, I was wondering if anybody knows when windows xp registers
> hardware on install. Like this, when you install windows xp it copies
> all the files I assume, then reboots, then installs windows.
>
> I was wondering if I could stop the computer before it reboots, put
> the drive in another computer and resume the install where it may then
> register the motherboard, hardware, and drivers and all that?
>
> I know I have completely stopped the install before it reboots and
> start it and it installs just fine, just haven't moved the hard drive
> to another computer to resume the install. Any thought on this?
>
You *mean* you want to install XP on two different computers using the
same installation CD. This would require you to read the legal
agreement to *know* under what circumstances this does not voilate the
agreement you have with MS. This could require you to have a version of
that disk that is licenced for *more* than one machine and you *still*
couldn't exceed that number without voilating it of course. This number
is 1 otherwise.

If you've already used all keys and those installations still
exist, then you can't. You're at the limit and have to remove XP from at
least two of those computers.

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/328874

This seems to be MS's method of doing an install with different product
keys - and hence different licences. One machine here product key.

--
(setq (chuck nil) car(chuck) )

 

[duckstandard]

John Holmes wrote:
> duckstandard "contributed" in 24hoursupport.helpdesk:
>
> > Hi, I was wondering if anybody knows when windows xp registers
> > hardware on install. Like this, when you install windows xp it copies
> > all the files I assume, then reboots, then installs windows.
> >
> > I was wondering if I could stop the computer before it reboots, put
> > the drive in another computer and resume the install where it may then
> > register the motherboard, hardware, and drivers and all that?
> >
> > I know I have completely stopped the install before it reboots and
> > start it and it installs just fine, just haven't moved the hard drive
> > to another computer to resume the install. Any thought on this?
>
> The way to do this properly is:
> Install windows normally, then run "sysprep" to bring the installation in
> a state from which you make an image. Install this image on as many
> harddrives as you desire, put them in as many computers as you'd like and
> on first boot windows setup runs and will install it's native drivers.
> Ofcourse, you'll still need the hardware specific drivers.
> For more info, read this:
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/302577
>
> HTH
>

Sounds about what I am looking for. Thanks. I will take a good look at
it later and attempt to do something with it.

 

[The poster formerly known as 'The Poster Formerly]

On 2/27/2010 35 AM, duckstandard wrote:
>
> rf wrote:
>> "duckstandard"<duckstand@lavabit.com> wrote in message
>> news:5214dad9-b641-42c0-a88a-3fbd380159b0@z11g2000yqz.googlegroups.com...
>>> Hi, I was wondering if anybody knows when windows xp registers
>>> hardware on install. Like this, when you install windows xp it copies
>>> all the files I assume, then reboots, then installs windows.
>>>
>>> I was wondering if I could stop the computer before it reboots, put
>>> the drive in another computer and resume the install where it may then
>>> register the motherboard, hardware, and drivers and all that?
>>>
>>> I know I have completely stopped the install before it reboots and
>>> start it and it installs just fine, just haven't moved the hard drive
>>> to another computer to resume the install. Any thought on this?
>>
>> Why would you want to do this?
>
> For many reason, one just to see if it can be done. Another is to have
> an install ready to work on and with whatever computer it's put in.
>
> Lets say another computer doesn't have a working cd drive, can one
> start the install where it merely copies files and stop it just before
> it reboots, and then put it in the other computer without the working
> cd drive to finish installing and setup on 'that' computer.

This is the reason I tried this, but it failed. I don't know why, could
be because it was an OEM Dell XP CD and the only other machine available
to load it on was a Compaq. The first part worked fine on the Compaq,
but once I loaded the drive into the Dell and tried to carry on from
there, it would only come up to a black screen with a white blinking
curson in the upper left corner.

 

[Ronin]

I realize this isn't exactly what you want, but this I'm pretty sure this
works (I haven't done it in a few years.) Take the HD you're going to
install to, place it into a functioning machine, copy the i386 folder to it,
put the HD back into the machine you're installing, use a bootable floppy or
CD startup disk (from Bootdisk.com for example), then navigate to the i386
folder and run SETUP. I'm sure it's not nearly so simple, but I can't
remember any of the hitches I must have run into.

That Dell CD may be a simple, generic, OEM disk. If so, it will probably
work fine for other systems. I only recall seeing those OEM discs or a
"recovery partition" solution coming from Dell.

--
Ronin

"The poster formerly known as 'The Poster Formerly Known as Nina DiBoy'"
<me631@privacy.com> wrote in message news:hne1hj$r7$1@speranza.aioe.org...
> On 2/27/2010 35 AM, duckstandard wrote:
>>
>> rf wrote:
>>> "duckstandard"<duckstand@lavabit.com> wrote in message
>>> news:5214dad9-b641-42c0-a88a-3fbd380159b0@z11g2000yqz.googlegroups.com...
>>>> Hi, I was wondering if anybody knows when windows xp registers
>>>> hardware on install. Like this, when you install windows xp it copies
>>>> all the files I assume, then reboots, then installs windows.
>>>>
>>>> I was wondering if I could stop the computer before it reboots, put
>>>> the drive in another computer and resume the install where it may then
>>>> register the motherboard, hardware, and drivers and all that?
>>>>
>>>> I know I have completely stopped the install before it reboots and
>>>> start it and it installs just fine, just haven't moved the hard drive
>>>> to another computer to resume the install. Any thought on this?
>>>
>>> Why would you want to do this?
>>
>> For many reason, one just to see if it can be done. Another is to have
>> an install ready to work on and with whatever computer it's put in.
>>
>> Lets say another computer doesn't have a working cd drive, can one
>> start the install where it merely copies files and stop it just before
>> it reboots, and then put it in the other computer without the working
>> cd drive to finish installing and setup on 'that' computer.
>
> This is the reason I tried this, but it failed. I don't know why, could
> be because it was an OEM Dell XP CD and the only other machine available
> to load it on was a Compaq. The first part worked fine on the Compaq, but
> once I loaded the drive into the Dell and tried to carry on from there, it
> would only come up to a black screen with a white blinking curson in the
> upper left corner.

 

[Paul Randall]

"The poster formerly known as 'The Poster Formerly Known as Nina DiBoy'"
<me631@privacy.com> wrote in message news:hne1hj$r7$1@speranza.aioe.org...
> On 2/27/2010 35 AM, duckstandard wrote:
>>
>> rf wrote:
>>> "duckstandard"<duckstand@lavabit.com> wrote in message
>>> news:5214dad9-b641-42c0-a88a-3fbd380159b0@z11g2000yqz.googlegroups.com...
>>>> Hi, I was wondering if anybody knows when windows xp registers
>>>> hardware on install. Like this, when you install windows xp it copies
>>>> all the files I assume, then reboots, then installs windows.
>>>>
>>>> I was wondering if I could stop the computer before it reboots, put
>>>> the drive in another computer and resume the install where it may then
>>>> register the motherboard, hardware, and drivers and all that?
>>>>
>>>> I know I have completely stopped the install before it reboots and
>>>> start it and it installs just fine, just haven't moved the hard drive
>>>> to another computer to resume the install. Any thought on this?
>>>
>>> Why would you want to do this?
>>
>> For many reason, one just to see if it can be done. Another is to have
>> an install ready to work on and with whatever computer it's put in.
>>
>> Lets say another computer doesn't have a working cd drive, can one
>> start the install where it merely copies files and stop it just before
>> it reboots, and then put it in the other computer without the working
>> cd drive to finish installing and setup on 'that' computer.
>
> This is the reason I tried this, but it failed. I don't know why, could
> be because it was an OEM Dell XP CD and the only other machine available
> to load it on was a Compaq. The first part worked fine on the Compaq, but
> once I loaded the drive into the Dell and tried to carry on from there, it
> would only come up to a black screen with a white blinking curson in the
> upper left corner.

I'm guessing that there is more going on than "merely copies files" before
that reboot. I'm thinking the only way to find out for sure would be for
someone to use a Dell branded OEM CD to get to that reboot point, on both a
Dell and a Compaq, and then use a binary file/folder tree compare of the two
disks to find the differences. I'm thinking that for sure there will at
least be differences in the registry files and the drivers being used on
that reboot.

-Paul Randall

 

[M.L.]

>>>> Hi, I was wondering if anybody knows when windows xp registers
>>>> hardware on install. Like this, when you install windows xp it copies
>>>> all the files I assume, then reboots, then installs windows.
>>>>
>>>> I was wondering if I could stop the computer before it reboots, put
>>>> the drive in another computer and resume the install where it may then
>>>> register the motherboard, hardware, and drivers and all that?
>>>>
>>>> I know I have completely stopped the install before it reboots and
>>>> start it and it installs just fine, just haven't moved the hard drive
>>>> to another computer to resume the install. Any thought on this?
>>>
>>> Why would you want to do this?
>>
>> For many reason, one just to see if it can be done. Another is to have
>> an install ready to work on and with whatever computer it's put in.
>>
>> Lets say another computer doesn't have a working cd drive, can one
>> start the install where it merely copies files and stop it just before
>> it reboots, and then put it in the other computer without the working
>> cd drive to finish installing and setup on 'that' computer.

You could use the free WinToFlash http://wintoflash.com/home/en/ to
easily create a full XP/Vista/7 install from a USB stick. It's faster
than installing from a CD and installs just as smoothly, without the
uncertainties of your prospective method. You could use it to install
on any PC that can boot from a USB.