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Installing Office on new computer

N

NYst84me

Flightless Bird
I have Microsoft Office Professional Edition 2003, which came as OEM software
when I bought my previous Dell computer. I later installed Office
Professional 2007 (Upgrade version) on that computer. Can I install the
Office Professional 2007 on my new computer (also a Dell, but don't think
that matters) which I bought with no Office software?
 
J

JoAnn Paules [MVP]

Flightless Bird
You need a qualifying product.

--
JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
Tech Editor for "Microsoft Publisher 2007 For Dummies"



"NYst84me" <NYst84me@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:B768FDC2-DBB3-411D-B205-6D7AD99A72C2@microsoft.com...
>I have Microsoft Office Professional Edition 2003, which came as OEM
>software
> when I bought my previous Dell computer. I later installed Office
> Professional 2007 (Upgrade version) on that computer. Can I install the
> Office Professional 2007 on my new computer (also a Dell, but don't think
> that matters) which I bought with no Office software?
 
D

David Troxell - Encourager Software

Flightless Bird
On Wed, 7 Apr 2010 08:40:01 -0700, NYst84me wrote:

> I have Microsoft Office Professional Edition 2003, which came as OEM software
> when I bought my previous Dell computer. I later installed Office
> Professional 2007 (Upgrade version) on that computer. Can I install the
> Office Professional 2007 on my new computer (also a Dell, but don't think
> that matters) which I bought with no Office software?


More than likely - No. OEM versions are usually licensed for one computer
only - check your license terms to be sure.

In your 2007 version - click on Office Button - Options - Resources - About
- View the Microsoft Software License Terms

Normally the License terms includes sections for Retail License Terms, OEM
License Terms and Media-Less License Terms (In Office 2010 - Product Key
Card - PKC will replace Media-Less or MLK)

Then, under the Installation and Use Rights, it specifically states how you
can assign your license.

OEM License Terms and Installation and Use Rights associated with OEM is
the section you need to read carefully.

For 2007 products, this is also a good resource page for License Terms in
identifying the kind of product you have:

If your designation is FPP, then the Retail License Terms below apply to
you. If your designation is OEM, then the OEM License Terms below apply to
you. If your designation is MLK, then the Media-less License Kit Terms
below apply to you.

http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/products/HA102240441033.aspx

David

--
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M

Michael

Flightless Bird
"NYst84me" <NYst84me@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:B768FDC2-DBB3-411D-B205-6D7AD99A72C2@microsoft.com...
> I have Microsoft Office Professional Edition 2003, which came as OEM
> software
> when I bought my previous Dell computer. I later installed Office
> Professional 2007 (Upgrade version) on that computer. Can I install the
> Office Professional 2007 on my new computer (also a Dell, but don't think
> that matters) which I bought with no Office software?


Legally, no. Having said that, both computers being a Dell may give you a
loophole. Try installing 2003 and see if it activates. If it does, you're
on your own from there.
--


"Don't pick a fight with an old man.
If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you."
 
N

NYst84me

Flightless Bird
David, thanks for the information. I did as you suggested and reviewed the
license terms for my Office 2007, which is FPP and therefore falls under
Retail. I found this:

13. UPGRADE OR CONVERSION. To upgrade or convert software, you must first
be licensed for the software that is eligible for the upgrade or conversion.
Upon upgrade or conversion, this agreement takes the place of the agreement
for the software you upgraded or converted from. After you upgrade or
convert, you may no longer use the earlier version of the software you
upgraded or converted from.

This sounds like the OEM restrictions for the Office 2003 no longer apply.
Further down, I see:

15. REASSIGN TO ANOTHER DEVICE. You may reassign the license to a different
device any number of times, but not more than one time every 90 days. If
you reassign, that other device becomes the “licensed device.†If you retire
the licensed device due to hardware failure, you may reassign the license
sooner.

So it sounds like I should in fact be able to put the Office 2007 on the new
computer. My question then is will I be able to install the upgrade version
without a previous version on the new computer, so long as I have a valid
product key?

"David Troxell - Encourager Software" wrote:

> On Wed, 7 Apr 2010 08:40:01 -0700, NYst84me wrote:
>
> > I have Microsoft Office Professional Edition 2003, which came as OEM software
> > when I bought my previous Dell computer. I later installed Office
> > Professional 2007 (Upgrade version) on that computer. Can I install the
> > Office Professional 2007 on my new computer (also a Dell, but don't think
> > that matters) which I bought with no Office software?

>
> More than likely - No. OEM versions are usually licensed for one computer
> only - check your license terms to be sure.
>
> In your 2007 version - click on Office Button - Options - Resources - About
> - View the Microsoft Software License Terms
>
> Normally the License terms includes sections for Retail License Terms, OEM
> License Terms and Media-Less License Terms (In Office 2010 - Product Key
> Card - PKC will replace Media-Less or MLK)
>
> Then, under the Installation and Use Rights, it specifically states how you
> can assign your license.
>
> OEM License Terms and Installation and Use Rights associated with OEM is
> the section you need to read carefully.
>
> For 2007 products, this is also a good resource page for License Terms in
> identifying the kind of product you have:
>
> If your designation is FPP, then the Retail License Terms below apply to
> you. If your designation is OEM, then the OEM License Terms below apply to
> you. If your designation is MLK, then the Media-less License Kit Terms
> below apply to you.
>
> http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/products/HA102240441033.aspx
>
> David
>
> --
> From David Troxell - Product Scope 7.9 - Encourager Software
> Email - mailto:pe_Remove_@_Me_encouragersoftware.com
> Product Scope 7 Viewer - NO Registration Fee! Free to Use!
> http://www.encouragersoftware.com/
> http://www.encouragersoftware.com/profile/microsoft-office-2010.html
> .
>
 
N

NYst84me

Flightless Bird
Disregard, I found the answer to my follow-on question in the Office Setup
forum. Looks like I won't be able to install from the upgrade version
without at least Microsoft Works on the new comp. I'm checking to find out
if it has it now, if not, will buy the cheapest eligible version I can find
in order to use the upgrade. Thanks!

"NYst84me" wrote:

> David, thanks for the information. I did as you suggested and reviewed the
> license terms for my Office 2007, which is FPP and therefore falls under
> Retail. I found this:
>
> 13. UPGRADE OR CONVERSION. To upgrade or convert software, you must first
> be licensed for the software that is eligible for the upgrade or conversion.
> Upon upgrade or conversion, this agreement takes the place of the agreement
> for the software you upgraded or converted from. After you upgrade or
> convert, you may no longer use the earlier version of the software you
> upgraded or converted from.
>
> This sounds like the OEM restrictions for the Office 2003 no longer apply.
> Further down, I see:
>
> 15. REASSIGN TO ANOTHER DEVICE. You may reassign the license to a different
> device any number of times, but not more than one time every 90 days. If
> you reassign, that other device becomes the “licensed device.†If you retire
> the licensed device due to hardware failure, you may reassign the license
> sooner.
>
> So it sounds like I should in fact be able to put the Office 2007 on the new
> computer. My question then is will I be able to install the upgrade version
> without a previous version on the new computer, so long as I have a valid
> product key?
>
> "David Troxell - Encourager Software" wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 7 Apr 2010 08:40:01 -0700, NYst84me wrote:
> >
> > > I have Microsoft Office Professional Edition 2003, which came as OEM software
> > > when I bought my previous Dell computer. I later installed Office
> > > Professional 2007 (Upgrade version) on that computer. Can I install the
> > > Office Professional 2007 on my new computer (also a Dell, but don't think
> > > that matters) which I bought with no Office software?

> >
> > More than likely - No. OEM versions are usually licensed for one computer
> > only - check your license terms to be sure.
> >
> > In your 2007 version - click on Office Button - Options - Resources - About
> > - View the Microsoft Software License Terms
> >
> > Normally the License terms includes sections for Retail License Terms, OEM
> > License Terms and Media-Less License Terms (In Office 2010 - Product Key
> > Card - PKC will replace Media-Less or MLK)
> >
> > Then, under the Installation and Use Rights, it specifically states how you
> > can assign your license.
> >
> > OEM License Terms and Installation and Use Rights associated with OEM is
> > the section you need to read carefully.
> >
> > For 2007 products, this is also a good resource page for License Terms in
> > identifying the kind of product you have:
> >
> > If your designation is FPP, then the Retail License Terms below apply to
> > you. If your designation is OEM, then the OEM License Terms below apply to
> > you. If your designation is MLK, then the Media-less License Kit Terms
> > below apply to you.
> >
> > http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/products/HA102240441033.aspx
> >
> > David
> >
> > --
> > From David Troxell - Product Scope 7.9 - Encourager Software
> > Email - mailto:pe_Remove_@_Me_encouragersoftware.com
> > Product Scope 7 Viewer - NO Registration Fee! Free to Use!
> > http://www.encouragersoftware.com/
> > http://www.encouragersoftware.com/profile/microsoft-office-2010.html
> > .
> >
 
J

JoAnn Paules [MVP]

Flightless Bird
Whis is what I said - you need a qualifying product to upgrade. If you have
that, then yes.

--
JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
Tech Editor for "Microsoft Publisher 2007 For Dummies"



"NYst84me" <NYst84me@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:5A2DB747-FAEE-4956-A8F7-6A0A7137D931@microsoft.com...
> Disregard, I found the answer to my follow-on question in the Office Setup
> forum. Looks like I won't be able to install from the upgrade version
> without at least Microsoft Works on the new comp. I'm checking to find
> out
> if it has it now, if not, will buy the cheapest eligible version I can
> find
> in order to use the upgrade. Thanks!
>
> "NYst84me" wrote:
>
>> David, thanks for the information. I did as you suggested and reviewed
>> the
>> license terms for my Office 2007, which is FPP and therefore falls under
>> Retail. I found this:
>>
>> 13. UPGRADE OR CONVERSION. To upgrade or convert software, you must
>> first
>> be licensed for the software that is eligible for the upgrade or
>> conversion.
>> Upon upgrade or conversion, this agreement takes the place of the
>> agreement
>> for the software you upgraded or converted from. After you upgrade or
>> convert, you may no longer use the earlier version of the software you
>> upgraded or converted from.
>>
>> This sounds like the OEM restrictions for the Office 2003 no longer
>> apply.
>> Further down, I see:
>>
>> 15. REASSIGN TO ANOTHER DEVICE. You may reassign the license to a
>> different
>> device any number of times, but not more than one time every 90 days. If
>> you reassign, that other device becomes the "licensed device." If you
>> retire
>> the licensed device due to hardware failure, you may reassign the license
>> sooner.
>>
>> So it sounds like I should in fact be able to put the Office 2007 on the
>> new
>> computer. My question then is will I be able to install the upgrade
>> version
>> without a previous version on the new computer, so long as I have a valid
>> product key?
>>
>> "David Troxell - Encourager Software" wrote:
>>
>> > On Wed, 7 Apr 2010 08:40:01 -0700, NYst84me wrote:
>> >
>> > > I have Microsoft Office Professional Edition 2003, which came as OEM
>> > > software
>> > > when I bought my previous Dell computer. I later installed Office
>> > > Professional 2007 (Upgrade version) on that computer. Can I install
>> > > the
>> > > Office Professional 2007 on my new computer (also a Dell, but don't
>> > > think
>> > > that matters) which I bought with no Office software?
>> >
>> > More than likely - No. OEM versions are usually licensed for one
>> > computer
>> > only - check your license terms to be sure.
>> >
>> > In your 2007 version - click on Office Button - Options - Resources -
>> > About
>> > - View the Microsoft Software License Terms
>> >
>> > Normally the License terms includes sections for Retail License Terms,
>> > OEM
>> > License Terms and Media-Less License Terms (In Office 2010 - Product
>> > Key
>> > Card - PKC will replace Media-Less or MLK)
>> >
>> > Then, under the Installation and Use Rights, it specifically states how
>> > you
>> > can assign your license.
>> >
>> > OEM License Terms and Installation and Use Rights associated with OEM
>> > is
>> > the section you need to read carefully.
>> >
>> > For 2007 products, this is also a good resource page for License Terms
>> > in
>> > identifying the kind of product you have:
>> >
>> > If your designation is FPP, then the Retail License Terms below apply
>> > to
>> > you. If your designation is OEM, then the OEM License Terms below
>> > apply to
>> > you. If your designation is MLK, then the Media-less License Kit Terms
>> > below apply to you.
>> >
>> > http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/products/HA102240441033.aspx
>> >
>> > David
>> >
>> > --
>> > From David Troxell - Product Scope 7.9 - Encourager Software
>> > Email - mailto:pe_Remove_@_Me_encouragersoftware.com
>> > Product Scope 7 Viewer - NO Registration Fee! Free to Use!
>> > http://www.encouragersoftware.com/
>> > http://www.encouragersoftware.com/profile/microsoft-office-2010.html
>> > .
>> >
 
D

David Troxell - Encourager Software

Flightless Bird
On Wed, 7 Apr 2010 11:08:01 -0700, NYst84me wrote:

> David, thanks for the information.


You're welcome!

> I did as you suggested and reviewed the
> license terms for my Office 2007, which is FPP and therefore falls under
> Retail. I found this:


Between JoAnn Paules advice, your own research, and a few hints from me,
your query have provided a lot of useful information on license terms that
others can refer to - since similar questions on license terms frequently
are raised.

David

>
> 13. UPGRADE OR CONVERSION. To upgrade or convert software, you must first
> be licensed for the software that is eligible for the upgrade or conversion.
> Upon upgrade or conversion, this agreement takes the place of the agreement
> for the software you upgraded or converted from. After you upgrade or
> convert, you may no longer use the earlier version of the software you
> upgraded or converted from.
>
> This sounds like the OEM restrictions for the Office 2003 no longer apply.
> Further down, I see:
>
> 15. REASSIGN TO ANOTHER DEVICE. You may reassign the license to a different
> device any number of times, but not more than one time every 90 days. If
> you reassign, that other device becomes the ´licensed device.¡ If you retire
> the licensed device due to hardware failure, you may reassign the license
> sooner.
>
> So it sounds like I should in fact be able to put the Office 2007 on the new
> computer. My question then is will I be able to install the upgrade version
> without a previous version on the new computer, so long as I have a valid
> product key?
>
> "David Troxell - Encourager Software" wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 7 Apr 2010 08:40:01 -0700, NYst84me wrote:
>>
>>> I have Microsoft Office Professional Edition 2003, which came as OEM software
>>> when I bought my previous Dell computer. I later installed Office
>>> Professional 2007 (Upgrade version) on that computer. Can I install the
>>> Office Professional 2007 on my new computer (also a Dell, but don't think
>>> that matters) which I bought with no Office software?

>>
>> More than likely - No. OEM versions are usually licensed for one computer
>> only - check your license terms to be sure.
>>
>> In your 2007 version - click on Office Button - Options - Resources - About
>> - View the Microsoft Software License Terms
>>
>> Normally the License terms includes sections for Retail License Terms, OEM
>> License Terms and Media-Less License Terms (In Office 2010 - Product Key
>> Card - PKC will replace Media-Less or MLK)
>>
>> Then, under the Installation and Use Rights, it specifically states how you
>> can assign your license.
>>
>> OEM License Terms and Installation and Use Rights associated with OEM is
>> the section you need to read carefully.
>>
>> For 2007 products, this is also a good resource page for License Terms in
>> identifying the kind of product you have:
>>
>> If your designation is FPP, then the Retail License Terms below apply to
>> you. If your designation is OEM, then the OEM License Terms below apply to
>> you. If your designation is MLK, then the Media-less License Kit Terms
>> below apply to you.
>>
>> http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/products/HA102240441033.aspx
>>
>> David
>>



--
From David Troxell - Product Scope 7.9 - Encourager Software
Email - mailto:pe_Remove_@_Me_encouragersoftware.com
Product Scope 7 Viewer - NO Registration Fee! Free to Use!
http://www.encouragersoftware.com/
http://www.encouragersoftware.com/profile/microsoft-office-2010.html
 
P

Peter Foldes

Flightless Bird
As you posted from the Eula

>After you upgrade or convert, you may no longer use the earlier version of the
>software you
>upgraded or converted from.


You are NOT able to use that as a qualifying product. Refer also to what JoAnn
posted
--
Peter

Please Reply to Newsgroup for the benefit of others
Requests for assistance by email can not and will not be acknowledged.

"NYst84me" <NYst84me@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:B768FDC2-DBB3-411D-B205-6D7AD99A72C2@microsoft.com...
>I have Microsoft Office Professional Edition 2003, which came as OEM software
> when I bought my previous Dell computer. I later installed Office
> Professional 2007 (Upgrade version) on that computer. Can I install the
> Office Professional 2007 on my new computer (also a Dell, but don't think
> that matters) which I bought with no Office software?
 
N

NYst84me

Flightless Bird
Thank you JoAnn, I wasn't trying to ignore what you said, I still wasn't
quite clear on whether my previous software could be used as a qualifying
product in any way. A bit more research made your earlier comment clearer.

"JoAnn Paules [MVP]" wrote:

> Whis is what I said - you need a qualifying product to upgrade. If you have
> that, then yes.
>
> --
> JoAnn Paules
> MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
> Tech Editor for "Microsoft Publisher 2007 For Dummies"
>
>
>
> "NYst84me" <NYst84me@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:5A2DB747-FAEE-4956-A8F7-6A0A7137D931@microsoft.com...
> > Disregard, I found the answer to my follow-on question in the Office Setup
> > forum. Looks like I won't be able to install from the upgrade version
> > without at least Microsoft Works on the new comp. I'm checking to find
> > out
> > if it has it now, if not, will buy the cheapest eligible version I can
> > find
> > in order to use the upgrade. Thanks!
> >
> > "NYst84me" wrote:
> >
> >> David, thanks for the information. I did as you suggested and reviewed
> >> the
> >> license terms for my Office 2007, which is FPP and therefore falls under
> >> Retail. I found this:
> >>
> >> 13. UPGRADE OR CONVERSION. To upgrade or convert software, you must
> >> first
> >> be licensed for the software that is eligible for the upgrade or
> >> conversion.
> >> Upon upgrade or conversion, this agreement takes the place of the
> >> agreement
> >> for the software you upgraded or converted from. After you upgrade or
> >> convert, you may no longer use the earlier version of the software you
> >> upgraded or converted from.
> >>
> >> This sounds like the OEM restrictions for the Office 2003 no longer
> >> apply.
> >> Further down, I see:
> >>
> >> 15. REASSIGN TO ANOTHER DEVICE. You may reassign the license to a
> >> different
> >> device any number of times, but not more than one time every 90 days. If
> >> you reassign, that other device becomes the "licensed device." If you
> >> retire
> >> the licensed device due to hardware failure, you may reassign the license
> >> sooner.
> >>
> >> So it sounds like I should in fact be able to put the Office 2007 on the
> >> new
> >> computer. My question then is will I be able to install the upgrade
> >> version
> >> without a previous version on the new computer, so long as I have a valid
> >> product key?
> >>
> >> "David Troxell - Encourager Software" wrote:
> >>
> >> > On Wed, 7 Apr 2010 08:40:01 -0700, NYst84me wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > I have Microsoft Office Professional Edition 2003, which came as OEM
> >> > > software
> >> > > when I bought my previous Dell computer. I later installed Office
> >> > > Professional 2007 (Upgrade version) on that computer. Can I install
> >> > > the
> >> > > Office Professional 2007 on my new computer (also a Dell, but don't
> >> > > think
> >> > > that matters) which I bought with no Office software?
> >> >
> >> > More than likely - No. OEM versions are usually licensed for one
> >> > computer
> >> > only - check your license terms to be sure.
> >> >
> >> > In your 2007 version - click on Office Button - Options - Resources -
> >> > About
> >> > - View the Microsoft Software License Terms
> >> >
> >> > Normally the License terms includes sections for Retail License Terms,
> >> > OEM
> >> > License Terms and Media-Less License Terms (In Office 2010 - Product
> >> > Key
> >> > Card - PKC will replace Media-Less or MLK)
> >> >
> >> > Then, under the Installation and Use Rights, it specifically states how
> >> > you
> >> > can assign your license.
> >> >
> >> > OEM License Terms and Installation and Use Rights associated with OEM
> >> > is
> >> > the section you need to read carefully.
> >> >
> >> > For 2007 products, this is also a good resource page for License Terms
> >> > in
> >> > identifying the kind of product you have:
> >> >
> >> > If your designation is FPP, then the Retail License Terms below apply
> >> > to
> >> > you. If your designation is OEM, then the OEM License Terms below
> >> > apply to
> >> > you. If your designation is MLK, then the Media-less License Kit Terms
> >> > below apply to you.
> >> >
> >> > http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/products/HA102240441033.aspx
> >> >
> >> > David
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > From David Troxell - Product Scope 7.9 - Encourager Software
> >> > Email - mailto:pe_Remove_@_Me_encouragersoftware.com
> >> > Product Scope 7 Viewer - NO Registration Fee! Free to Use!
> >> > http://www.encouragersoftware.com/
> >> > http://www.encouragersoftware.com/profile/microsoft-office-2010.html
> >> > .
> >> >

>
>
> .
>
 
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