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IE8 or IE6 which is better?

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nasser jamal

Flightless Bird
Dear members,
> XP PRO SP3
> Two weeks ago I upgrade to IE8 from IE6, to my surprise IE6 is more responsive than 8, for instance, pressing Full Screen(F11)
> does not respond every time you press it sometimes it does; with IE6 all the time executes, copy and paste with IE 8 sometimes it does not copy and consequently paste the exact copy, with IE6 all the time a carbon copy.
> Has anybody noticed the above mentioned defects and differences, please advise.
> I wish there is a way to have both IEs on the same computer.
>
> Best regards to all.
--
nasser
 
P

PA Bear [MS MVP]

Flightless Bird
[Crosspost to IE General]

IE8 is much more secure than IE6.

I note that you had problems when you installed IE7, too:
http://groups.google.com/group/micr..._frm/thread/49117f1f2a75cd80/caa5e388d7bf159b

> ...IE6 is more responsive than 8

1. Does the behavior persist if you start IE in No Add-ons mode?

=> Start | (All) Programs | Accessories | System Tools | Internet
Explorer (No add-ons).

Troubleshooting and Internet Explorer’s (No Add-ons) Mode [Applies to IE7 &
IE8 in all OSS]
http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2006/07/25/678113.aspx

2. Does the behavior persist if you Reset IE Advanced settings (RIES)?
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/923737

3. What anti-virus application or security suite is installed and is your
subscription current? What anti-spyware applications (other than Defender)?
What third-party firewall (if any)? Were any of these applications running
in the background when you installed IE8?

4. Has a(nother) Norton or McAfee application ever been installed on this
machine (e.g., a free-trial version that came preinstalled when you bought
it)?

> I wish there is a way to have both IEs on the same computer.

Running Multiple Versions of Internet Explorer On Single Operating System is
Unsupported:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2020599

IEBlog : IE6 and IE7 Running on a Single Machine:
http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2006/11/30/ie6-and-ie7-running-on-a-single-machine.aspx
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002


nasser jamal wrote:
> XP PRO SP3
> Two weeks ago I upgrade to IE8 from IE6, to my surprise IE6 is more
> responsive than 8, for instance, pressing Full Screen(F11)
> does not respond every time you press it sometimes it does; with IE6 all
> the time executes, copy and paste with IE 8 sometimes it does not copy and
> consequently paste the exact copy, with IE6 all the time a carbon copy.
> Has anybody noticed the above mentioned defects and differences, please
> advise.
> I wish there is a way to have both IEs on the same computer.
 
V

VanguardLH

Flightless Bird
nasser jamal wrote:

<incorrect usage of ">" quoting character was removed from OP>

> XP PRO SP3 Two weeks ago I upgrade to IE8 from IE6, to my surprise IE6 is
> more responsive than 8, for instance, pressing Full Screen(F11) does not
> respond every time you press it sometimes it does; with IE6 all the time
> executes, copy and paste with IE 8 sometimes it does not copy and
> consequently paste the exact copy, with IE6 all the time a carbon copy.
> Has anybody noticed the above mentioned defects and differences, please
> advise. I wish there is a way to have both IEs on the same computer.

So why did you prefix the body of your post with the ">" quoting character?
Is this your question, or did you copy and paste someone else's question?

A better question would be:

IE8 or IE6: Which is supported by Microsoft and which is getting dropped for
support at web sites?

Tis a no-brainer to answer even by yourself.

Have you tested IE8 in its no add-ons mode to make sure that you didn't
leave your host polluted with old and incompatible add-ons for IE? Maybe
you need a newer version of any security software you installed (anti-virus,
firewall, HIPS, etc) that interrogate and can corrupt your web traffic.
 
R

Robert Aldwinckle

Flightless Bird
> nasser jamal wrote:
>> XP PRO SP3
>> Two weeks ago I upgrade to IE8 from IE6, to my surprise IE6 is more
>> responsive than 8, for instance, pressing Full Screen(F11)
>> does not respond every time you press it sometimes it does; with IE6 all
>> the time executes,


That's true. If you skipped IE7 so you wouldn't have noticed when that
functional deficiency was added. Essentially now we can have 1 window open
in Fullscreen mode at a time. You can expedite the hunt for your one
Fullscreen mode window by using right-click on the other IE window's Taskbar
icons and looking for the one which contains Auto-Hide in its window menu.
That would be the one you would have to toggle out of Fullscreen mode in
order to go back to find the one that you wanted to be in Fullscreen mode
and then use F11 on it (assuming you can remember after all that
distraction what it was you were trying to do in the first place.) An
alternative is simply to use a window's Maximized mode whenever F11 fails.


>> copy and paste with IE 8 sometimes it does not copy and
>> consequently paste the exact copy, with IE6 all the time a carbon copy.
>> Has anybody noticed the above mentioned defects and differences, please
>> advise.
>> I wish there is a way to have both IEs on the same computer.


I think the right-click, Copy command is usually pretty reliable but I agree
that sometimes Ctrl-c doesn't always seem to work. However, the problem
is not unique to IE IMO.


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"PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> [Crosspost to IE General]

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T

Twayne

Flightless Bird
In news:hqvjmi$s55$1@news.albasani.net,
VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> typed:
> nasser jamal wrote:
>
> <incorrect usage of ">" quoting character was removed from
> OP>
>
>> XP PRO SP3 Two weeks ago I upgrade to IE8 from IE6, to my
>> surprise IE6 is more responsive than 8, for instance,
>> pressing Full Screen(F11) does not respond every time you
>> press it sometimes it does; with IE6 all the time
>> executes, copy and paste with IE 8 sometimes it does not
>> copy and consequently paste the exact copy, with IE6 all
>> the time a carbon copy. Has anybody noticed the above
>> mentioned defects and differences, please advise. I wish
>> there is a way to have both IEs on the same computer.
>
> So why did you prefix the body of your post with the ">"
> quoting character? Is this your question, or did you copy
> and paste someone else's question?
>
> A better question would be:
>
> IE8 or IE6: Which is supported by Microsoft and which is
> getting dropped for support at web sites?

To date I haven't seen ANY websites deny IE6. Not only would it be silly to
do, since the installed base is large, but it would be hard to write
anything for a web site that would crash or otherwise mess up IE6 to the
point of uselessness. You seem to think there are no IE4, win9x or DOS
applications in existance anymore, but that's wrong. There are a LOT of
them, and they are ALL unsupported! What about Netscape? Should everyone
stop using it simply because it's not supported nor even available anymore
from Netscape? No, there's still a pretty good installed base out there
using it. Then, there is a plethora of other apps out there like Office XP
(2002), VB6 classic, and on and on, that are no longer supported but are
still in heavy use and producing good income for their license holders. A
complete list of such things would be incredibly long. I suppose XP should
be abandoned, especially if it's only at SP2 also, right? But that's silly:
If it does everything one needs reliably and with stability, or even win98,
why change? Then there are a gazillion third party and freeware and/or Open
Source applicaitons out there without official support; I suppose they need
to be abandoned too? Nonsense.
>
> Tis a no-brainer to answer even by yourself.

Tis a no-brainer to one with no-brain, I'd agree to that.

>
> Have you tested IE8 in its no add-ons mode to make sure
> that you didn't leave your host polluted with old and
> incompatible add-ons for IE? Maybe you need a newer
> version of any security software you installed (anti-virus,
> firewall, HIPS, etc) that interrogate and can corrupt your
> web traffic.

lol, "corrupt" web traffic?

I haven't come across or even heard about any plans to drop IE6 from any
websites; just because an application isn't "supported" anymore only means
there won't be any further updates planned for it or fixes from Microsoft.
Big deal. "Planned" being the major word there; just like in the past, if
any serious hole is discovered, it'll get fixed. IE6 is stable and reliable
too, so it's not a big deal that way. One is wise to go to IE8 for the extra
security and tabbing features, etc., but those still on IE6 have very little
to worry about.

HTH,

Twayne`
 
V

VanguardLH

Flightless Bird
Twayne wrote:

<snip - claims IE6 is not being dropped at web sites>

Although I haven't hit them (since I don't have the time), I have read posts
from users that state a site claims that they must use a later version of IE
in order to have full functionality of the web site. The usual workaround
is to get an add-on that changes the UserAgent string that IE reports to the
web site. Changing the UA string is not only useful for sites that refuse
to connect to newer versions of IE (because they don't yet have a match in
their lookup list to determine what web browser connected to them) but it
can be handy to lie to web sites that prompt to use a newer version.
 
A

Anteaus

Flightless Bird
Anyone using IE6 is simply asking, nay begging, for a malware infection.

IE8, OTOH modifies a lot of system components, and causes trouble with some
aspects of LAN access, for example launching apps from a server may give
messages about the executable being untrusted. Bear in mind these problems
arise if IE8 is INSTALLED, even if it's not used.

If you're going to use IE, I would suggest 7 as the best compromise. Though,
I would suggest avoiding IE as much as possible.

"nasser jamal" wrote:

> Dear members,
> > XP PRO SP3
> > Two weeks ago I upgrade to IE8 from IE6, to my surprise IE6 is more responsive than 8, for instance, pressing Full Screen(F11)
> > does not respond every time you press it sometimes it does; with IE6 all the time executes, copy and paste with IE 8 sometimes it does not copy and consequently paste the exact copy, with IE6 all the time a carbon copy.
> > Has anybody noticed the above mentioned defects and differences, please advise.
> > I wish there is a way to have both IEs on the same computer.
> >
> > Best regards to all.
> --
> nasser
 
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