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IE 8 Internet Problem

Discussion in 'Internet Explorer' started by KenP, Feb 6, 2010.

  1. KenP

    KenP Flightless Bird

    Win XP Pro Machine - Installed IE 8 and now can't access web pages. I can
    ping web sites (yahoo.com) and receive email but can't open web pages.

    I've run TCP IP fix program and ran O/S repair but neither helped. Any
    suggestions will be greatly appreciated.

    I posted this an hour or so ago and it hasn't showed up yet so am posting
    again.

    KenP
     
  2. Jeff Strickland

    Jeff Strickland Flightless Bird

    "KenP" <KenP@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    news:FB1E0479-55F8-40FE-8A31-53D93292D2DE@microsoft.com...
    > Win XP Pro Machine - Installed IE 8 and now can't access web pages. I can
    > ping web sites (yahoo.com) and receive email but can't open web pages.
    >
    > I've run TCP IP fix program and ran O/S repair but neither helped. Any
    > suggestions will be greatly appreciated.
    >
    > I posted this an hour or so ago and it hasn't showed up yet so am posting
    > again.
    >
    > KenP



    That's odd, your post came up both times.

    Are you running Family Protection Services from McAfee?

    There's no reason that IE8 can't get to the net if you previous version
    could get on.

    I had an unpleasant experience (again) last week with McAfee and an IE8
    install on a Win7 machine. Check your Add & Remove Programs for Family
    Protection Service from McAfee, if it's there Uninstall it and see if your
    browser comes back.
     
  3. G. R. Woodring

    G. R. Woodring Flightless Bird

    Bad idea, now you will need to monitor two threads for responses. Worse, some
    will see the double post and regard you as to rude to deserve a response to
    either post.

    --
    G. R. Woodring

    Date: 2/6/2010 1:10 PM, Author: KenP Wrote:
    >


    < Snipped > - Better if all responses were only to the first thread.

    > I posted this an hour or so ago and it hasn't showed up yet so am posting
    > again.
    >
    > KenP
     
  4. Jeff Strickland

    Jeff Strickland Flightless Bird

    In his defense, he waited an hour for his post to appear before posting a
    second time, many repeat-posters only wait a couple of minutes, and some
    Reply to their own post that their post didn't come up.

    And, you top posted, so perhaps you're not the best person to point out
    netiquette violations.

    </top post>

    "G. R. Woodring" <tejbbqevat@rneguyvax.arg> wrote in message
    news:ua1K6v1pKHA.5760@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
    > Bad idea, now you will need to monitor two threads for responses. Worse,
    > some will see the double post and regard you as to rude to deserve a
    > response to either post.
    >
    > --
    > G. R. Woodring
    >
    > Date: 2/6/2010 1:10 PM, Author: KenP Wrote:
    >>

    >
    > < Snipped > - Better if all responses were only to the first thread.
    >
    >> I posted this an hour or so ago and it hasn't showed up yet so am posting
    >> again.
    >>
    >> KenP
     
  5. G. R. Woodring

    G. R. Woodring Flightless Bird

    Re: [OT] IE 8 Internet Problem

    Date: 2/6/2010 1:50 PM, Author: Jeff Strickland Wrote:
    > In his defense, he waited an hour for his post to appear before posting a
    > second time, many repeat-posters only wait a couple of minutes, and some
    > Reply to their own post that their post didn't come up.
    >


    This group seems to have a slight delay by itself. Posting through a web
    interface would impose additional delay as the web server updates periodically
    from the news server. Also, the OP might have been able to refresh the browser
    display manually which may or may not have displayed the posting. At any rate,
    multiple postings create confusion for the OP and for those posting responses.

    > And, you top posted, so perhaps you're not the best person to point out
    > netiquette violations.
    >


    I normally bottom post in news groups, and I prefer it in support groups because
    the top-to-bottom continuity seems more natural. However top posting seems to
    be the more common method on the Microsoft groups so that is how I post here.
    The netiquette principle here is "When in Rome..." :)

    --
    G. R. Woodring

    >
    >
    > "G. R. Woodring" <tejbbqevat@rneguyvax.arg> wrote in message
    > news:ua1K6v1pKHA.5760@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
    >> Bad idea, now you will need to monitor two threads for responses. Worse,
    >> some will see the double post and regard you as to rude to deserve a
    >> response to either post.
    >>
    >> --
    >> G. R. Woodring
    >>
    >> Date: 2/6/2010 1:10 PM, Author: KenP Wrote:
    >> < Snipped > - Better if all responses were only to the first thread.
    >>
    >>> I posted this an hour or so ago and it hasn't showed up yet so am posting
    >>> again.
    >>>
    >>> KenP

    >
    >
     
  6. Jeff Strickland

    Jeff Strickland Flightless Bird

    Re: [OT] IE 8 Internet Problem

    "G. R. Woodring" <tejbbqevat@rneguyvax.arg> wrote in message
    news:-OcF1hN2pKHA.1556@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
    >
    > Date: 2/6/2010 1:50 PM, Author: Jeff Strickland Wrote:
    >> In his defense, he waited an hour for his post to appear before posting a
    >> second time, many repeat-posters only wait a couple of minutes, and some
    >> Reply to their own post that their post didn't come up.
    >>

    >
    > This group seems to have a slight delay by itself. Posting through a web
    > interface would impose additional delay as the web server updates
    > periodically from the news server. Also, the OP might have been able to
    > refresh the browser display manually which may or may not have displayed
    > the posting. At any rate, multiple postings create confusion for the OP
    > and for those posting responses.
    >
    >> And, you top posted, so perhaps you're not the best person to point out
    >> netiquette violations.
    >>

    >
    > I normally bottom post in news groups, and I prefer it in support groups
    > because the top-to-bottom continuity seems more natural. However top
    > posting seems to be the more common method on the Microsoft groups so that
    > is how I post here. The netiquette principle here is "When in Rome..." :)
    >
    > --
    > G. R. Woodring
    >


    Personally, I prefer top posting (I was yanking your chain earlier) because
    I generally read a post from top to bottom, then elect to Reply, and my news
    client puts the cursor at the top. If I bottom post, as proper netiquette
    calls for, then I have to open a post, scroll to the bottom to read, then
    Reply and scroll to the bottom again to begin my comments. Top posting lets
    me read, then Reply and not scroll all over the place to do it.

    The problem becomes that I may want to Reply in the middle, and top posting
    places stuff in a strange order later on when the discussion becomes
    fragmented.

    What REALLY causes problems though is Mixed Posting, where some poster make
    their comments at the top and others make them at the bottom. I like the
    When-in-Rome approach, if you are commenting to a top post, then you should
    top post as well. You should never ever top post in a discussion where
    everybody else is bottom posting. If I was a judge, I'd have to impose the
    death penalty for offenders.
     
  7. Jeff Strickland

    Jeff Strickland Flightless Bird

    Re: [OT] IE 8 Internet Problem

    "Jeff Strickland" <crwlrjeff@yahoo.com> wrote in message
    news:hkkh4m$sn8$1@news.eternal-september.org...
    >
    > "G. R. Woodring" <tejbbqevat@rneguyvax.arg> wrote in message
    > news:-OcF1hN2pKHA.1556@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
    >>
    >> Date: 2/6/2010 1:50 PM, Author: Jeff Strickland Wrote:
    >>> In his defense, he waited an hour for his post to appear before posting
    >>> a second time, many repeat-posters only wait a couple of minutes, and
    >>> some Reply to their own post that their post didn't come up.
    >>>

    >>
    >> This group seems to have a slight delay by itself. Posting through a web
    >> interface would impose additional delay as the web server updates
    >> periodically from the news server. Also, the OP might have been able to
    >> refresh the browser display manually which may or may not have displayed
    >> the posting. At any rate, multiple postings create confusion for the OP
    >> and for those posting responses.
    >>
    >>> And, you top posted, so perhaps you're not the best person to point out
    >>> netiquette violations.
    >>>

    >>
    >> I normally bottom post in news groups, and I prefer it in support groups
    >> because the top-to-bottom continuity seems more natural. However top
    >> posting seems to be the more common method on the Microsoft groups so
    >> that is how I post here. The netiquette principle here is "When in
    >> Rome..." :)
    >>
    >> --
    >> G. R. Woodring
    >>

    >
    > Personally, I prefer top posting (I was yanking your chain earlier)
    > because I generally read a post from top to bottom, then elect to Reply,
    > and my news client puts the cursor at the top. If I bottom post, as proper
    > netiquette calls for, then I have to open a post, scroll to the bottom to
    > read, then Reply and scroll to the bottom again to begin my comments. Top
    > posting lets me read, then Reply and not scroll all over the place to do
    > it.
    >
    > The problem becomes that I may want to Reply in the middle, and top
    > posting places stuff in a strange order later on when the discussion
    > becomes fragmented.
    >
    > What REALLY causes problems though is Mixed Posting, where some poster
    > make their comments at the top and others make them at the bottom. I like
    > the When-in-Rome approach, if you are commenting to a top post, then you
    > should top post as well. You should never ever top post in a discussion
    > where everybody else is bottom posting. If I was a judge, I'd have to
    > impose the death penalty for offenders.
    >



    AS FOR THE "STRANGE DELAY" ...
    Notice that my posts are timestamped within a minute of each other. My stuff
    shows up immediately.
     
  8. KenP

    KenP Flightless Bird

    My apology again on 2nd posting. I refreshed screen numerous time and it
    never showed up. It only showed up when I changed groups and came back to
    this one. Thanks for the suggestions, I'll see what happens.

    "Jeff Strickland" wrote:

    > In his defense, he waited an hour for his post to appear before posting a
    > second time, many repeat-posters only wait a couple of minutes, and some
    > Reply to their own post that their post didn't come up.
    >
    > And, you top posted, so perhaps you're not the best person to point out
    > netiquette violations.
    >
    > </top post>
    >
    > "G. R. Woodring" <tejbbqevat@rneguyvax.arg> wrote in message
    > news:ua1K6v1pKHA.5760@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
    > > Bad idea, now you will need to monitor two threads for responses. Worse,
    > > some will see the double post and regard you as to rude to deserve a
    > > response to either post.
    > >
    > > --
    > > G. R. Woodring
    > >
    > > Date: 2/6/2010 1:10 PM, Author: KenP Wrote:
    > >>

    > >
    > > < Snipped > - Better if all responses were only to the first thread.
    > >
    > >> I posted this an hour or so ago and it hasn't showed up yet so am posting
    > >> again.
    > >>
    > >> KenP

    >
    >
    > .
    >
     
  9. Jeff Strickland

    Jeff Strickland Flightless Bird

    "KenP" <KenP@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    news:CD1BD223-5A5E-4C75-B8A4-244B6B019B2B@microsoft.com...
    > My apology again on 2nd posting. I refreshed screen numerous time and it
    > never showed up. It only showed up when I changed groups and came back to
    > this one. Thanks for the suggestions, I'll see what happens.
    >


    That's a normal behavior, Ken. Refresh may not get the latest posts. Exiting
    the group then re-entering will always get them.
     
  10. Jeff Strickland

    Jeff Strickland Flightless Bird

    "Jeff Strickland" <crwlrjeff@yahoo.com> wrote in message
    news:hkkina$3ib$1@news.eternal-september.org...
    >
    > "KenP" <KenP@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    > news:CD1BD223-5A5E-4C75-B8A4-244B6B019B2B@microsoft.com...
    >> My apology again on 2nd posting. I refreshed screen numerous time and it
    >> never showed up. It only showed up when I changed groups and came back to
    >> this one. Thanks for the suggestions, I'll see what happens.
    >>

    >
    > That's a normal behavior, Ken. Refresh may not get the latest posts.
    > Exiting the group then re-entering will always get them.
    >
    >

    Having said that, I just go the latest messages by hitting F5 to refresh.
     
  11. KenP

    KenP Flightless Bird

    Forgot to mention it will get on Internet if I start in SAFE MODE. Since I
    ran the O/S repair, I'm back to IE 6.

    "KenP" wrote:

    > My apology again on 2nd posting. I refreshed screen numerous time and it
    > never showed up. It only showed up when I changed groups and came back to
    > this one. Thanks for the suggestions, I'll see what happens.
    >
    > "Jeff Strickland" wrote:
    >
    > > In his defense, he waited an hour for his post to appear before posting a
    > > second time, many repeat-posters only wait a couple of minutes, and some
    > > Reply to their own post that their post didn't come up.
    > >
    > > And, you top posted, so perhaps you're not the best person to point out
    > > netiquette violations.
    > >
    > > </top post>
    > >
    > > "G. R. Woodring" <tejbbqevat@rneguyvax.arg> wrote in message
    > > news:ua1K6v1pKHA.5760@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
    > > > Bad idea, now you will need to monitor two threads for responses. Worse,
    > > > some will see the double post and regard you as to rude to deserve a
    > > > response to either post.
    > > >
    > > > --
    > > > G. R. Woodring
    > > >
    > > > Date: 2/6/2010 1:10 PM, Author: KenP Wrote:
    > > >>
    > > >
    > > > < Snipped > - Better if all responses were only to the first thread.
    > > >
    > > >> I posted this an hour or so ago and it hasn't showed up yet so am posting
    > > >> again.
    > > >>
    > > >> KenP

    > >
    > >
    > > .
    > >
     
  12. KenP

    KenP Flightless Bird

    I am running Comodo AV although system had McAfee prior to this. McAfee was
    removed and Comodo added several months ago.

    "Jeff Strickland" wrote:

    >
    > "KenP" <KenP@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    > news:FB1E0479-55F8-40FE-8A31-53D93292D2DE@microsoft.com...
    > > Win XP Pro Machine - Installed IE 8 and now can't access web pages. I can
    > > ping web sites (yahoo.com) and receive email but can't open web pages.
    > >
    > > I've run TCP IP fix program and ran O/S repair but neither helped. Any
    > > suggestions will be greatly appreciated.
    > >
    > > I posted this an hour or so ago and it hasn't showed up yet so am posting
    > > again.
    > >
    > > KenP

    >
    >
    > That's odd, your post came up both times.
    >
    > Are you running Family Protection Services from McAfee?
    >
    > There's no reason that IE8 can't get to the net if you previous version
    > could get on.
    >
    > I had an unpleasant experience (again) last week with McAfee and an IE8
    > install on a Win7 machine. Check your Add & Remove Programs for Family
    > Protection Service from McAfee, if it's there Uninstall it and see if your
    > browser comes back.
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > .
    >
     
  13. KenP

    KenP Flightless Bird

    Re: [OT] IE 8 Internet Problem

    It appears the post has become more about the posting than the problem. I'll
    just reload O/S, that'll fix it.

    "Jeff Strickland" wrote:

    >
    > "Jeff Strickland" <crwlrjeff@yahoo.com> wrote in message
    > news:hkkh4m$sn8$1@news.eternal-september.org...
    > >
    > > "G. R. Woodring" <tejbbqevat@rneguyvax.arg> wrote in message
    > > news:-OcF1hN2pKHA.1556@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
    > >>
    > >> Date: 2/6/2010 1:50 PM, Author: Jeff Strickland Wrote:
    > >>> In his defense, he waited an hour for his post to appear before posting
    > >>> a second time, many repeat-posters only wait a couple of minutes, and
    > >>> some Reply to their own post that their post didn't come up.
    > >>>
    > >>
    > >> This group seems to have a slight delay by itself. Posting through a web
    > >> interface would impose additional delay as the web server updates
    > >> periodically from the news server. Also, the OP might have been able to
    > >> refresh the browser display manually which may or may not have displayed
    > >> the posting. At any rate, multiple postings create confusion for the OP
    > >> and for those posting responses.
    > >>
    > >>> And, you top posted, so perhaps you're not the best person to point out
    > >>> netiquette violations.
    > >>>
    > >>
    > >> I normally bottom post in news groups, and I prefer it in support groups
    > >> because the top-to-bottom continuity seems more natural. However top
    > >> posting seems to be the more common method on the Microsoft groups so
    > >> that is how I post here. The netiquette principle here is "When in
    > >> Rome..." :)
    > >>
    > >> --
    > >> G. R. Woodring
    > >>

    > >
    > > Personally, I prefer top posting (I was yanking your chain earlier)
    > > because I generally read a post from top to bottom, then elect to Reply,
    > > and my news client puts the cursor at the top. If I bottom post, as proper
    > > netiquette calls for, then I have to open a post, scroll to the bottom to
    > > read, then Reply and scroll to the bottom again to begin my comments. Top
    > > posting lets me read, then Reply and not scroll all over the place to do
    > > it.
    > >
    > > The problem becomes that I may want to Reply in the middle, and top
    > > posting places stuff in a strange order later on when the discussion
    > > becomes fragmented.
    > >
    > > What REALLY causes problems though is Mixed Posting, where some poster
    > > make their comments at the top and others make them at the bottom. I like
    > > the When-in-Rome approach, if you are commenting to a top post, then you
    > > should top post as well. You should never ever top post in a discussion
    > > where everybody else is bottom posting. If I was a judge, I'd have to
    > > impose the death penalty for offenders.
    > >

    >
    >
    > AS FOR THE "STRANGE DELAY" ...
    > Notice that my posts are timestamped within a minute of each other. My stuff
    > shows up immediately.
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > .
    >
     
  14. PA Bear [MS MVP]

    PA Bear [MS MVP] Flightless Bird

    Had IE7 and/or IE8 been installed before you did the Repair Install and did
    you uninstall one/both of them before doing the Repair Install?


    KenP wrote:
    > Forgot to mention it will get on Internet if I start in SAFE MODE. Since I
    > ran the O/S repair, I'm back to IE 6.
    >
    > "KenP" wrote:
    >
    >> My apology again on 2nd posting. I refreshed screen numerous time and it
    >> never showed up. It only showed up when I changed groups and came back to
    >> this one. Thanks for the suggestions, I'll see what happens.
    >>
    >> "Jeff Strickland" wrote:
    >>
    >>> In his defense, he waited an hour for his post to appear before posting
    >>> a
    >>> second time, many repeat-posters only wait a couple of minutes, and some
    >>> Reply to their own post that their post didn't come up.
    >>>
    >>> And, you top posted, so perhaps you're not the best person to point out
    >>> netiquette violations.
    >>>
    >>> </top post>
    >>>
    >>> "G. R. Woodring" <tejbbqevat@rneguyvax.arg> wrote in message
    >>> news:ua1K6v1pKHA.5760@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
    >>>> Bad idea, now you will need to monitor two threads for responses.
    >>>> Worse,
    >>>> some will see the double post and regard you as to rude to deserve a
    >>>> response to either post.
    >>>>
    >>>> --
    >>>> G. R. Woodring
    >>>>
    >>>> Date: 2/6/2010 1:10 PM, Author: KenP Wrote:
    >>>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> < Snipped > - Better if all responses were only to the first thread.
    >>>>
    >>>>> I posted this an hour or so ago and it hasn't showed up yet so am
    >>>>> posting again.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> KenP
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> .
     
  15. KenP

    KenP Flightless Bird

    Re: [OT] IE 8 Internet Problem

    Just so every1 will know, the problem was caused because for some reason both
    Proxy setting options in the Internet Options, Connection tab were checked.
    Have no clue as to how/why that happened but the problem is resolved.

    If we can get beyond the posting issue, I hope this helps someone else cause
    it was just a fluke I found it.


    "KenP" wrote:

    > It appears the post has become more about the posting than the problem. I'll
    > just reload O/S, that'll fix it.
    >
    > "Jeff Strickland" wrote:
    >
    > >
    > > "Jeff Strickland" <crwlrjeff@yahoo.com> wrote in message
    > > news:hkkh4m$sn8$1@news.eternal-september.org...
    > > >
    > > > "G. R. Woodring" <tejbbqevat@rneguyvax.arg> wrote in message
    > > > news:-OcF1hN2pKHA.1556@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
    > > >>
    > > >> Date: 2/6/2010 1:50 PM, Author: Jeff Strickland Wrote:
    > > >>> In his defense, he waited an hour for his post to appear before posting
    > > >>> a second time, many repeat-posters only wait a couple of minutes, and
    > > >>> some Reply to their own post that their post didn't come up.
    > > >>>
    > > >>
    > > >> This group seems to have a slight delay by itself. Posting through a web
    > > >> interface would impose additional delay as the web server updates
    > > >> periodically from the news server. Also, the OP might have been able to
    > > >> refresh the browser display manually which may or may not have displayed
    > > >> the posting. At any rate, multiple postings create confusion for the OP
    > > >> and for those posting responses.
    > > >>
    > > >>> And, you top posted, so perhaps you're not the best person to point out
    > > >>> netiquette violations.
    > > >>>
    > > >>
    > > >> I normally bottom post in news groups, and I prefer it in support groups
    > > >> because the top-to-bottom continuity seems more natural. However top
    > > >> posting seems to be the more common method on the Microsoft groups so
    > > >> that is how I post here. The netiquette principle here is "When in
    > > >> Rome..." :)
    > > >>
    > > >> --
    > > >> G. R. Woodring
    > > >>
    > > >
    > > > Personally, I prefer top posting (I was yanking your chain earlier)
    > > > because I generally read a post from top to bottom, then elect to Reply,
    > > > and my news client puts the cursor at the top. If I bottom post, as proper
    > > > netiquette calls for, then I have to open a post, scroll to the bottom to
    > > > read, then Reply and scroll to the bottom again to begin my comments. Top
    > > > posting lets me read, then Reply and not scroll all over the place to do
    > > > it.
    > > >
    > > > The problem becomes that I may want to Reply in the middle, and top
    > > > posting places stuff in a strange order later on when the discussion
    > > > becomes fragmented.
    > > >
    > > > What REALLY causes problems though is Mixed Posting, where some poster
    > > > make their comments at the top and others make them at the bottom. I like
    > > > the When-in-Rome approach, if you are commenting to a top post, then you
    > > > should top post as well. You should never ever top post in a discussion
    > > > where everybody else is bottom posting. If I was a judge, I'd have to
    > > > impose the death penalty for offenders.
    > > >

    > >
    > >
    > > AS FOR THE "STRANGE DELAY" ...
    > > Notice that my posts are timestamped within a minute of each other. My stuff
    > > shows up immediately.
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > .
    > >
     
  16. PA Bear [MS MVP]

    PA Bear [MS MVP] Flightless Bird

    Re: [OT] IE 8 Internet Problem

    Unwanted enabling of proxy is usually the effect of a hijackware infection.

    KenP wrote:
    > Just so every1 will know, the problem was caused because for some reason
    > both Proxy setting options in the Internet Options, Connection tab were
    > checked. Have no clue as to how/why that happened but the problem is
    > resolved.
    >
    > If we can get beyond the posting issue, I hope this helps someone else
    > cause
    > it was just a fluke I found it.
    >
    >
    > "KenP" wrote:
    >
    >> It appears the post has become more about the posting than the problem.
    >> I'll just reload O/S, that'll fix it.
    >>
    >> "Jeff Strickland" wrote:
    >>
    >>>
    >>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlrjeff@yahoo.com> wrote in message
    >>> news:hkkh4m$sn8$1@news.eternal-september.org...
    >>>>
    >>>> "G. R. Woodring" <tejbbqevat@rneguyvax.arg> wrote in message
    >>>> news:-OcF1hN2pKHA.1556@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Date: 2/6/2010 1:50 PM, Author: Jeff Strickland Wrote:
    >>>>>> In his defense, he waited an hour for his post to appear before
    >>>>>> posting
    >>>>>> a second time, many repeat-posters only wait a couple of minutes, and
    >>>>>> some Reply to their own post that their post didn't come up.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>> This group seems to have a slight delay by itself. Posting through a
    >>>>> web interface would impose additional delay as the web server updates
    >>>>> periodically from the news server. Also, the OP might have been able
    >>>>> to
    >>>>> refresh the browser display manually which may or may not have
    >>>>> displayed
    >>>>> the posting. At any rate, multiple postings create confusion for the
    >>>>> OP
    >>>>> and for those posting responses.
    >>>>>
    >>>>>> And, you top posted, so perhaps you're not the best person to point
    >>>>>> out
    >>>>>> netiquette violations.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>> I normally bottom post in news groups, and I prefer it in support
    >>>>> groups
    >>>>> because the top-to-bottom continuity seems more natural. However top
    >>>>> posting seems to be the more common method on the Microsoft groups so
    >>>>> that is how I post here. The netiquette principle here is "When in
    >>>>> Rome..." :)
    >>>>>
    >>>>> --
    >>>>> G. R. Woodring
    >>>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> Personally, I prefer top posting (I was yanking your chain earlier)
    >>>> because I generally read a post from top to bottom, then elect to
    >>>> Reply,
    >>>> and my news client puts the cursor at the top. If I bottom post, as
    >>>> proper netiquette calls for, then I have to open a post, scroll to the
    >>>> bottom to read, then Reply and scroll to the bottom again to begin my
    >>>> comments. Top posting lets me read, then Reply and not scroll all over
    >>>> the place to do it.
    >>>>
    >>>> The problem becomes that I may want to Reply in the middle, and top
    >>>> posting places stuff in a strange order later on when the discussion
    >>>> becomes fragmented.
    >>>>
    >>>> What REALLY causes problems though is Mixed Posting, where some poster
    >>>> make their comments at the top and others make them at the bottom. I
    >>>> like
    >>>> the When-in-Rome approach, if you are commenting to a top post, then
    >>>> you
    >>>> should top post as well. You should never ever top post in a discussion
    >>>> where everybody else is bottom posting. If I was a judge, I'd have to
    >>>> impose the death penalty for offenders.
    >>>>
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> AS FOR THE "STRANGE DELAY" ...
    >>> Notice that my posts are timestamped within a minute of each other. My
    >>> stuff shows up immediately.
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> .
     
  17. KenP

    KenP Flightless Bird

    Re: [OT] IE 8 Internet Problem

    I ran Defender and AV (Comodo) and neither found anything worthy of
    reporting. Any suggestions???

    Thanks

    "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:

    > Unwanted enabling of proxy is usually the effect of a hijackware infection.
    >
    > KenP wrote:
    > > Just so every1 will know, the problem was caused because for some reason
    > > both Proxy setting options in the Internet Options, Connection tab were
    > > checked. Have no clue as to how/why that happened but the problem is
    > > resolved.
    > >
    > > If we can get beyond the posting issue, I hope this helps someone else
    > > cause
    > > it was just a fluke I found it.
    > >
    > >
    > > "KenP" wrote:
    > >
    > >> It appears the post has become more about the posting than the problem.
    > >> I'll just reload O/S, that'll fix it.
    > >>
    > >> "Jeff Strickland" wrote:
    > >>
    > >>>
    > >>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlrjeff@yahoo.com> wrote in message
    > >>> news:hkkh4m$sn8$1@news.eternal-september.org...
    > >>>>
    > >>>> "G. R. Woodring" <tejbbqevat@rneguyvax.arg> wrote in message
    > >>>> news:-OcF1hN2pKHA.1556@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
    > >>>>>
    > >>>>> Date: 2/6/2010 1:50 PM, Author: Jeff Strickland Wrote:
    > >>>>>> In his defense, he waited an hour for his post to appear before
    > >>>>>> posting
    > >>>>>> a second time, many repeat-posters only wait a couple of minutes, and
    > >>>>>> some Reply to their own post that their post didn't come up.
    > >>>>>>
    > >>>>>
    > >>>>> This group seems to have a slight delay by itself. Posting through a
    > >>>>> web interface would impose additional delay as the web server updates
    > >>>>> periodically from the news server. Also, the OP might have been able
    > >>>>> to
    > >>>>> refresh the browser display manually which may or may not have
    > >>>>> displayed
    > >>>>> the posting. At any rate, multiple postings create confusion for the
    > >>>>> OP
    > >>>>> and for those posting responses.
    > >>>>>
    > >>>>>> And, you top posted, so perhaps you're not the best person to point
    > >>>>>> out
    > >>>>>> netiquette violations.
    > >>>>>>
    > >>>>>
    > >>>>> I normally bottom post in news groups, and I prefer it in support
    > >>>>> groups
    > >>>>> because the top-to-bottom continuity seems more natural. However top
    > >>>>> posting seems to be the more common method on the Microsoft groups so
    > >>>>> that is how I post here. The netiquette principle here is "When in
    > >>>>> Rome..." :)
    > >>>>>
    > >>>>> --
    > >>>>> G. R. Woodring
    > >>>>>
    > >>>>
    > >>>> Personally, I prefer top posting (I was yanking your chain earlier)
    > >>>> because I generally read a post from top to bottom, then elect to
    > >>>> Reply,
    > >>>> and my news client puts the cursor at the top. If I bottom post, as
    > >>>> proper netiquette calls for, then I have to open a post, scroll to the
    > >>>> bottom to read, then Reply and scroll to the bottom again to begin my
    > >>>> comments. Top posting lets me read, then Reply and not scroll all over
    > >>>> the place to do it.
    > >>>>
    > >>>> The problem becomes that I may want to Reply in the middle, and top
    > >>>> posting places stuff in a strange order later on when the discussion
    > >>>> becomes fragmented.
    > >>>>
    > >>>> What REALLY causes problems though is Mixed Posting, where some poster
    > >>>> make their comments at the top and others make them at the bottom. I
    > >>>> like
    > >>>> the When-in-Rome approach, if you are commenting to a top post, then
    > >>>> you
    > >>>> should top post as well. You should never ever top post in a discussion
    > >>>> where everybody else is bottom posting. If I was a judge, I'd have to
    > >>>> impose the death penalty for offenders.
    > >>>>
    > >>>
    > >>>
    > >>> AS FOR THE "STRANGE DELAY" ...
    > >>> Notice that my posts are timestamped within a minute of each other. My
    > >>> stuff shows up immediately.
    > >>>
    > >>>
    > >>>
    > >>>
    > >>>
    > >>> .

    >
    > .
    >
     

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