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R

RW

Flightless Bird
On two machines now I have tried to change the user and screwed up both machines.

I was asked to remove the existing user (with administrative privalige) and create a new user with
administrative privalige. Then remove the old user and all of their files.

I went to the User applet and created the new user, logged off as the old user and logged on as the
new user.
Went back to the User applet and selected the old user and picked the "delete user" option and the
"delete user files" option. The PCs worked fine and came back up with the new user on a
Shutdown-Restart. However, after a full shutdown, on the next start the 'old logon window' format
showed with the new user name and when I tried to start I got the error message "Unable to log on to
the Domain. Check User name and Domain for correct entry". (Before I lost the machine I had
confirmed that neither the new user, the old user, or the Administrator had passwords.) Even
changing the User to "Administrator" resulted in the same error. Then booting into the Safe Mode
with exactly the same results. Now neither computer had ever been on a Domain system.

Both Computers are Dell Dimension computers with Window XP Pro and I have the Dell Installation
disks for both computers, so I tried a Repair Installation. At the end of this effort and reboot,
the same error.

I have since used the Dell Installation disks to reformat and reinstall the OS and drivers.
Connected to the Internet and downloaded the many-many updates. However, now both owners have to
reinstall their software and printers.

Question: What did I do wrong? I had done this same task to a Dell Windows XP Home Edition before
and not had a problem.
 
P

Pegasus [MVP]

Flightless Bird
"RW" <me@mailinator.com> said this in news item
news:-ORULPwDoKHA.1552@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> On two machines now I have tried to change the user and screwed up both
> machines.
>
> I was asked to remove the existing user (with administrative privalige)
> and create a new user with administrative privalige. Then remove the old
> user and all of their files.
>
> I went to the User applet and created the new user, logged off as the old
> user and logged on as the new user.
> Went back to the User applet and selected the old user and picked the
> "delete user" option and the "delete user files" option. The PCs worked
> fine and came back up with the new user on a Shutdown-Restart. However,
> after a full shutdown, on the next start the 'old logon window' format
> showed with the new user name and when I tried to start I got the error
> message "Unable to log on to the Domain. Check User name and Domain for
> correct entry". (Before I lost the machine I had confirmed that neither
> the new user, the old user, or the Administrator had passwords.) Even
> changing the User to "Administrator" resulted in the same error. Then
> booting into the Safe Mode with exactly the same results. Now neither
> computer had ever been on a Domain system.
>
> Both Computers are Dell Dimension computers with Window XP Pro and I have
> the Dell Installation disks for both computers, so I tried a Repair
> Installation. At the end of this effort and reboot, the same error.
>
> I have since used the Dell Installation disks to reformat and reinstall
> the OS and drivers. Connected to the Internet and downloaded the many-many
> updates. However, now both owners have to reinstall their software and
> printers.
>
> Question: What did I do wrong? I had done this same task to a Dell
> Windows XP Home Edition before and not had a problem.


I think the main thing that went wrong is that you came here far too late.
Posts with password problems are among the VFAQs and most respondents would
have pointed you to Google. If you put the words

forgot windows password

into a Google search box then you will see what I mean. Most if not all
solutions presented on the first page would have solved your problem within
15 minutes, free of charge.

The second thing that went wrong is to go for a repair installation. Neither
Safe Mode nor a repair installation will do anything about passwords, other
than Safe Mode making the Administrator account visible on Windows XP Home
machines.

What exactly went wrong with your account changes/deletions etc. is hard to
say without actually watching you while you do it and probing a little
deeper *before* you reformat the disk.
 
R

RW

Flightless Bird
"Pegasus [MVP]" <news@microsoft.com> wrote in message news:-OC2nz8DoKHA.1548@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>
>
> "RW" <me@mailinator.com> said this in news item news:-ORULPwDoKHA.1552@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> On two machines now I have tried to change the user and screwed up both machines.
>>
>> I was asked to remove the existing user (with administrative privalige) and create a new user
>> with administrative privalige. Then remove the old user and all of their files.
>>
>> I went to the User applet and created the new user, logged off as the old user and logged on as
>> the new user.
>> Went back to the User applet and selected the old user and picked the "delete user" option and
>> the "delete user files" option. The PCs worked fine and came back up with the new user on a
>> Shutdown-Restart. However, after a full shutdown, on the next start the 'old logon window'
>> format showed with the new user name and when I tried to start I got the error message "Unable to
>> log on to the Domain. Check User name and Domain for correct entry". (Before I lost the machine
>> I had confirmed that neither the new user, the old user, or the Administrator had passwords.)
>> Even changing the User to "Administrator" resulted in the same error. Then booting into the Safe
>> Mode with exactly the same results. Now neither computer had ever been on a Domain system.
>>
>> Both Computers are Dell Dimension computers with Window XP Pro and I have the Dell Installation
>> disks for both computers, so I tried a Repair Installation. At the end of this effort and
>> reboot, the same error.
>>
>> I have since used the Dell Installation disks to reformat and reinstall the OS and drivers.
>> Connected to the Internet and downloaded the many-many updates. However, now both owners have to
>> reinstall their software and printers.
>>
>> Question: What did I do wrong? I had done this same task to a Dell Windows XP Home Edition
>> before and not had a problem.

>
> I think the main thing that went wrong is that you came here far too late. Posts with password
> problems are among the VFAQs and most respondents would have pointed you to Google. If you put the
> words
>
> forgot windows password
>
> into a Google search box then you will see what I mean. Most if not all solutions presented on the
> first page would have solved your problem within 15 minutes, free of charge.
>
> The second thing that went wrong is to go for a repair installation. Neither Safe Mode nor a
> repair installation will do anything about passwords, other than Safe Mode making the
> Administrator account visible on Windows XP Home machines.
>
> What exactly went wrong with your account changes/deletions etc. is hard to say without actually
> watching you while you do it and probing a little deeper *before* you reformat the disk.


It was confirmed before I began that there was never a password used on the computer.
I originally booted to all users and confirmed that no password was used, that included the
Administrator.
It was not a case of forgotten password. Please read the original post more carefully.
 
J

Jim

Flightless Bird
Then what happens when you press the Enter key when prompted for a password?
Jim
"RW" <me@mailinator.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Pegasus [MVP]" <news@microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:-OC2nz8DoKHA.1548@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>
>>
>> "RW" <me@mailinator.com> said this in news item
>> news:-ORULPwDoKHA.1552@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> On two machines now I have tried to change the user and screwed up both
>>> machines.
>>>
>>> I was asked to remove the existing user (with administrative privalige)
>>> and create a new user with administrative privalige. Then remove the
>>> old user and all of their files.
>>>
>>> I went to the User applet and created the new user, logged off as the
>>> old user and logged on as the new user.
>>> Went back to the User applet and selected the old user and picked the
>>> "delete user" option and the "delete user files" option. The PCs worked
>>> fine and came back up with the new user on a Shutdown-Restart.
>>> However, after a full shutdown, on the next start the 'old logon window'
>>> format showed with the new user name and when I tried to start I got the
>>> error message "Unable to log on to the Domain. Check User name and
>>> Domain for correct entry". (Before I lost the machine I had confirmed
>>> that neither the new user, the old user, or the Administrator had
>>> passwords.) Even changing the User to "Administrator" resulted in the
>>> same error. Then booting into the Safe Mode with exactly the same
>>> results. Now neither computer had ever been on a Domain system.
>>>
>>> Both Computers are Dell Dimension computers with Window XP Pro and I
>>> have the Dell Installation disks for both computers, so I tried a Repair
>>> Installation. At the end of this effort and reboot, the same error.
>>>
>>> I have since used the Dell Installation disks to reformat and reinstall
>>> the OS and drivers. Connected to the Internet and downloaded the
>>> many-many updates. However, now both owners have to reinstall their
>>> software and printers.
>>>
>>> Question: What did I do wrong? I had done this same task to a Dell
>>> Windows XP Home Edition before and not had a problem.

>>
>> I think the main thing that went wrong is that you came here far too
>> late. Posts with password problems are among the VFAQs and most
>> respondents would have pointed you to Google. If you put the words
>>
>> forgot windows password
>>
>> into a Google search box then you will see what I mean. Most if not all
>> solutions presented on the first page would have solved your problem
>> within 15 minutes, free of charge.
>>
>> The second thing that went wrong is to go for a repair installation.
>> Neither Safe Mode nor a repair installation will do anything about
>> passwords, other than Safe Mode making the Administrator account visible
>> on Windows XP Home machines.
>>
>> What exactly went wrong with your account changes/deletions etc. is hard
>> to say without actually watching you while you do it and probing a little
>> deeper *before* you reformat the disk.

>
> It was confirmed before I began that there was never a password used on
> the computer.
> I originally booted to all users and confirmed that no password was used,
> that included the Administrator.
> It was not a case of forgotten password. Please read the original post
> more carefully.
>
 
R

RW

Flightless Bird
The error message simply returned after a few seconds of trying log in.

"Jim" <j.n@invalid.invalid> wrote in message news:%237PdepIoKHA.3948@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Then what happens when you press the Enter key when prompted for a password?
> Jim
> "RW" <me@mailinator.com> wrote in message news:%23D1ThbHoKHA.1548@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>
>> "Pegasus [MVP]" <news@microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:-OC2nz8DoKHA.1548@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>
>>>
>>> "RW" <me@mailinator.com> said this in news item news:-ORULPwDoKHA.1552@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>> On two machines now I have tried to change the user and screwed up both machines.
>>>>
>>>> I was asked to remove the existing user (with administrative privalige) and create a new user
>>>> with administrative privalige. Then remove the old user and all of their files.
>>>>
>>>> I went to the User applet and created the new user, logged off as the old user and logged on
>>>> as the new user.
>>>> Went back to the User applet and selected the old user and picked the "delete user" option and
>>>> the "delete user files" option. The PCs worked fine and came back up with the new user on a
>>>> Shutdown-Restart. However, after a full shutdown, on the next start the 'old logon window'
>>>> format showed with the new user name and when I tried to start I got the error message "Unable
>>>> to log on to the Domain. Check User name and Domain for correct entry". (Before I lost the
>>>> machine I had confirmed that neither the new user, the old user, or the Administrator had
>>>> passwords.) Even changing the User to "Administrator" resulted in the same error. Then booting
>>>> into the Safe Mode with exactly the same results. Now neither computer had ever been on a
>>>> Domain system.
>>>>
>>>> Both Computers are Dell Dimension computers with Window XP Pro and I have the Dell Installation
>>>> disks for both computers, so I tried a Repair Installation. At the end of this effort and
>>>> reboot, the same error.
>>>>
>>>> I have since used the Dell Installation disks to reformat and reinstall the OS and drivers.
>>>> Connected to the Internet and downloaded the many-many updates. However, now both owners have
>>>> to reinstall their software and printers.
>>>>
>>>> Question: What did I do wrong? I had done this same task to a Dell Windows XP Home Edition
>>>> before and not had a problem.
>>>
>>> I think the main thing that went wrong is that you came here far too late. Posts with password
>>> problems are among the VFAQs and most respondents would have pointed you to Google. If you put
>>> the words
>>>
>>> forgot windows password
>>>
>>> into a Google search box then you will see what I mean. Most if not all solutions presented on
>>> the first page would have solved your problem within 15 minutes, free of charge.
>>>
>>> The second thing that went wrong is to go for a repair installation. Neither Safe Mode nor a
>>> repair installation will do anything about passwords, other than Safe Mode making the
>>> Administrator account visible on Windows XP Home machines.
>>>
>>> What exactly went wrong with your account changes/deletions etc. is hard to say without actually
>>> watching you while you do it and probing a little deeper *before* you reformat the disk.

>>
>> It was confirmed before I began that there was never a password used on the computer.
>> I originally booted to all users and confirmed that no password was used, that included the
>> Administrator.
>> It was not a case of forgotten password. Please read the original post more carefully.
>>

>
>
>
 
P

Pegasus [MVP]

Flightless Bird
"RW" <me@mailinator.com> said this in news item
news:#D1ThbHoKHA.1548@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>
> "Pegasus [MVP]" <news@microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:-OC2nz8DoKHA.1548@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>
>>
>> "RW" <me@mailinator.com> said this in news item
>> news:-ORULPwDoKHA.1552@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> On two machines now I have tried to change the user and screwed up both
>>> machines.
>>>
>>> I was asked to remove the existing user (with administrative privalige)
>>> and create a new user with administrative privalige. Then remove the
>>> old user and all of their files.
>>>
>>> I went to the User applet and created the new user, logged off as the
>>> old user and logged on as the new user.
>>> Went back to the User applet and selected the old user and picked the
>>> "delete user" option and the "delete user files" option. The PCs worked
>>> fine and came back up with the new user on a Shutdown-Restart.
>>> However, after a full shutdown, on the next start the 'old logon window'
>>> format showed with the new user name and when I tried to start I got the
>>> error message "Unable to log on to the Domain. Check User name and
>>> Domain for correct entry". (Before I lost the machine I had confirmed
>>> that neither the new user, the old user, or the Administrator had
>>> passwords.) Even changing the User to "Administrator" resulted in the
>>> same error. Then booting into the Safe Mode with exactly the same
>>> results. Now neither computer had ever been on a Domain system.
>>>
>>> Both Computers are Dell Dimension computers with Window XP Pro and I
>>> have the Dell Installation disks for both computers, so I tried a Repair
>>> Installation. At the end of this effort and reboot, the same error.
>>>
>>> I have since used the Dell Installation disks to reformat and reinstall
>>> the OS and drivers. Connected to the Internet and downloaded the
>>> many-many updates. However, now both owners have to reinstall their
>>> software and printers.
>>>
>>> Question: What did I do wrong? I had done this same task to a Dell
>>> Windows XP Home Edition before and not had a problem.

>>
>> I think the main thing that went wrong is that you came here far too
>> late. Posts with password problems are among the VFAQs and most
>> respondents would have pointed you to Google. If you put the words
>>
>> forgot windows password
>>
>> into a Google search box then you will see what I mean. Most if not all
>> solutions presented on the first page would have solved your problem
>> within 15 minutes, free of charge.
>>
>> The second thing that went wrong is to go for a repair installation.
>> Neither Safe Mode nor a repair installation will do anything about
>> passwords, other than Safe Mode making the Administrator account visible
>> on Windows XP Home machines.
>>
>> What exactly went wrong with your account changes/deletions etc. is hard
>> to say without actually watching you while you do it and probing a little
>> deeper *before* you reformat the disk.

>
> It was confirmed before I began that there was never a password used on
> the computer.
> I originally booted to all users and confirmed that no password was used,
> that included the Administrator.
> It was not a case of forgotten password. Please read the original post
> more carefully.


You missed my point. The words I suggested for the Goole search will guide
you to the various password resetting tools that you will find on Google.
Where the password was blank or forgotten is irrelevant. Useing this
approach would have saved you a great deal of time and trouble.

Your question "what went wrong" is valid but since you destroyed all the
evidence, it is unlikely that you will get a definitive answer.
 
R

RW

Flightless Bird
I had already "Googled" for password help (I even have a boot disk to change both user and Admin
pasword which I did and the new passwords did not work)

Also, I have a boot disk called "ERD Commander" that gives me full access to the Windows XP system.
Normally it allows a system restore from files on the hard drive. It did not work on the restore
feature. I was able to use it to capture files, address book, etc. be for the reformat.
I had worked on the computers for two days before choosing to reformat and start over, which was in
the end the best solution as the reason for the removal of the user was so PC could be given to a
charity.

What I wanted to know is what changed the system so that it thought there was a password and thought
there was a domain involved.

I now consider this subject closed as no one had any valid comments or suggestions.

"Pegasus [MVP]" <news@microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:DBD6D2B2-97A8-4326-9E2E-07FC51CD8954@microsoft.com...
>
>
> "RW" <me@mailinator.com> said this in news item news:#D1ThbHoKHA.1548@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>
>> "Pegasus [MVP]" <news@microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:-OC2nz8DoKHA.1548@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>
>>>
>>> "RW" <me@mailinator.com> said this in news item news:-ORULPwDoKHA.1552@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>> On two machines now I have tried to change the user and screwed up both machines.
>>>>
>>>> I was asked to remove the existing user (with administrative privalige) and create a new user
>>>> with administrative privalige. Then remove the old user and all of their files.
>>>>
>>>> I went to the User applet and created the new user, logged off as the old user and logged on
>>>> as the new user.
>>>> Went back to the User applet and selected the old user and picked the "delete user" option and
>>>> the "delete user files" option. The PCs worked fine and came back up with the new user on a
>>>> Shutdown-Restart. However, after a full shutdown, on the next start the 'old logon window'
>>>> format showed with the new user name and when I tried to start I got the error message "Unable
>>>> to log on to the Domain. Check User name and Domain for correct entry". (Before I lost the
>>>> machine I had confirmed that neither the new user, the old user, or the Administrator had
>>>> passwords.) Even changing the User to "Administrator" resulted in the same error. Then booting
>>>> into the Safe Mode with exactly the same results. Now neither computer had ever been on a
>>>> Domain system.
>>>>
>>>> Both Computers are Dell Dimension computers with Window XP Pro and I have the Dell Installation
>>>> disks for both computers, so I tried a Repair Installation. At the end of this effort and
>>>> reboot, the same error.
>>>>
>>>> I have since used the Dell Installation disks to reformat and reinstall the OS and drivers.
>>>> Connected to the Internet and downloaded the many-many updates. However, now both owners have
>>>> to reinstall their software and printers.
>>>>
>>>> Question: What did I do wrong? I had done this same task to a Dell Windows XP Home Edition
>>>> before and not had a problem.
>>>
>>> I think the main thing that went wrong is that you came here far too late. Posts with password
>>> problems are among the VFAQs and most respondents would have pointed you to Google. If you put
>>> the words
>>>
>>> forgot windows password
>>>
>>> into a Google search box then you will see what I mean. Most if not all solutions presented on
>>> the first page would have solved your problem within 15 minutes, free of charge.
>>>
>>> The second thing that went wrong is to go for a repair installation. Neither Safe Mode nor a
>>> repair installation will do anything about passwords, other than Safe Mode making the
>>> Administrator account visible on Windows XP Home machines.
>>>
>>> What exactly went wrong with your account changes/deletions etc. is hard to say without actually
>>> watching you while you do it and probing a little deeper *before* you reformat the disk.

>>
>> It was confirmed before I began that there was never a password used on the computer.
>> I originally booted to all users and confirmed that no password was used, that included the
>> Administrator.
>> It was not a case of forgotten password. Please read the original post more carefully.

>
> You missed my point. The words I suggested for the Goole search will guide you to the various
> password resetting tools that you will find on Google. Where the password was blank or forgotten
> is irrelevant. Useing this approach would have saved you a great deal of time and trouble.
>
> Your question "what went wrong" is valid but since you destroyed all the evidence, it is unlikely
> that you will get a definitive answer.
 
D

Doug W.

Flightless Bird
"RW" <me@mailinator.com> wrote in message
news:-O$3naRPoKHA.4436@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>I had already "Googled" for password help (I even have a boot
>disk to change both user and Admin pasword which I did and the
>new passwords did not work)
>
> Also, I have a boot disk called "ERD Commander" that gives me
> full access to the Windows XP system. Normally it allows a
> system restore from files on the hard drive. It did not work
> on the restore feature. I was able to use it to capture
> files, address book, etc. be for the reformat.
> I had worked on the computers for two days before choosing to
> reformat and start over, which was in the end the best
> solution as the reason for the removal of the user was so PC
> could be given to a charity.
>
> What I wanted to know is what changed the system so that it
> thought there was a password and thought there was a domain
> involved.
>
> I now consider this subject closed as no one had any valid
> comments or suggestions.
>

====
Lesson learned...don't make stupid changes until you learn how
to do them properly.
==

> "Pegasus [MVP]" <news@microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:DBD6D2B2-97A8-4326-9E2E-07FC51CD8954@microsoft.com...
>>
>>
>> "RW" <me@mailinator.com> said this in news item
>> news:#D1ThbHoKHA.1548@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>
>>> "Pegasus [MVP]" <news@microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>> news:-OC2nz8DoKHA.1548@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "RW" <me@mailinator.com> said this in news item
>>>> news:-ORULPwDoKHA.1552@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>> On two machines now I have tried to change the user and
>>>>> screwed up both machines.
>>>>>
>>>>> I was asked to remove the existing user (with
>>>>> administrative privalige) and create a new user with
>>>>> administrative privalige. Then remove the old user and
>>>>> all of their files.
>>>>>
>>>>> I went to the User applet and created the new user,
>>>>> logged off as the old user and logged on as the new user.
>>>>> Went back to the User applet and selected the old user and
>>>>> picked the "delete user" option and the "delete user
>>>>> files" option. The PCs worked fine and came back up with
>>>>> the new user on a Shutdown-Restart. However, after a full
>>>>> shutdown, on the next start the 'old logon window' format
>>>>> showed with the new user name and when I tried to start I
>>>>> got the error message "Unable to log on to the Domain.
>>>>> Check User name and Domain for correct entry". (Before I
>>>>> lost the machine I had confirmed that neither the new
>>>>> user, the old user, or the Administrator had passwords.)
>>>>> Even changing the User to "Administrator" resulted in the
>>>>> same error. Then booting into the Safe Mode with exactly
>>>>> the same results. Now neither computer had ever been on a
>>>>> Domain system.
>>>>>
>>>>> Both Computers are Dell Dimension computers with Window XP
>>>>> Pro and I have the Dell Installation disks for both
>>>>> computers, so I tried a Repair Installation. At the end
>>>>> of this effort and reboot, the same error.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have since used the Dell Installation disks to reformat
>>>>> and reinstall the OS and drivers. Connected to the
>>>>> Internet and downloaded the many-many updates. However,
>>>>> now both owners have to reinstall their software and
>>>>> printers.
>>>>>
>>>>> Question: What did I do wrong? I had done this same task
>>>>> to a Dell Windows XP Home Edition before and not had a
>>>>> problem.
>>>>
>>>> I think the main thing that went wrong is that you came
>>>> here far too late. Posts with password problems are among
>>>> the VFAQs and most respondents would have pointed you to
>>>> Google. If you put the words
>>>>
>>>> forgot windows password
>>>>
>>>> into a Google search box then you will see what I mean.
>>>> Most if not all solutions presented on the first page would
>>>> have solved your problem within 15 minutes, free of charge.
>>>>
>>>> The second thing that went wrong is to go for a repair
>>>> installation. Neither Safe Mode nor a repair installation
>>>> will do anything about passwords, other than Safe Mode
>>>> making the Administrator account visible on Windows XP Home
>>>> machines.
>>>>
>>>> What exactly went wrong with your account changes/deletions
>>>> etc. is hard to say without actually watching you while you
>>>> do it and probing a little deeper *before* you reformat the
>>>> disk.
>>>
>>> It was confirmed before I began that there was never a
>>> password used on the computer.
>>> I originally booted to all users and confirmed that no
>>> password was used, that included the Administrator.
>>> It was not a case of forgotten password. Please read the
>>> original post more carefully.

>>
>> You missed my point. The words I suggested for the Goole
>> search will guide you to the various password resetting tools
>> that you will find on Google. Where the password was blank or
>> forgotten is irrelevant. Useing this approach would have
>> saved you a great deal of time and trouble.
>>
>> Your question "what went wrong" is valid but since you
>> destroyed all the evidence, it is unlikely that you will get
>> a definitive answer.

>
>
 
R

Richard in AZ

Flightless Bird
Sound like no one helped by giving him any links to information on how to do the job.
I agree with RW, no help was given.

"Doug W." <stand@attention> wrote in message news:-OIfoMKRoKHA.5700@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>
> "RW" <me@mailinator.com> wrote in message news:-O$3naRPoKHA.4436@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>I had already "Googled" for password help (I even have a boot disk to change both user and Admin
>>pasword which I did and the new passwords did not work)
>>
>> Also, I have a boot disk called "ERD Commander" that gives me full access to the Windows XP
>> system. Normally it allows a system restore from files on the hard drive. It did not work on the
>> restore feature. I was able to use it to capture files, address book, etc. be for the reformat.
>> I had worked on the computers for two days before choosing to reformat and start over, which was
>> in the end the best solution as the reason for the removal of the user was so PC could be given
>> to a charity.
>>
>> What I wanted to know is what changed the system so that it thought there was a password and
>> thought there was a domain involved.
>>
>> I now consider this subject closed as no one had any valid comments or suggestions.
>>

> ====
> Lesson learned...don't make stupid changes until you learn how to do them properly.
> ==
>
>> "Pegasus [MVP]" <news@microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:DBD6D2B2-97A8-4326-9E2E-07FC51CD8954@microsoft.com...
>>>
>>>
>>> "RW" <me@mailinator.com> said this in news item news:#D1ThbHoKHA.1548@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>
>>>> "Pegasus [MVP]" <news@microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:-OC2nz8DoKHA.1548@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "RW" <me@mailinator.com> said this in news item news:-ORULPwDoKHA.1552@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> On two machines now I have tried to change the user and screwed up both machines.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I was asked to remove the existing user (with administrative privalige) and create a new user
>>>>>> with administrative privalige. Then remove the old user and all of their files.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I went to the User applet and created the new user, logged off as the old user and logged on
>>>>>> as the new user.
>>>>>> Went back to the User applet and selected the old user and picked the "delete user" option
>>>>>> and the "delete user files" option. The PCs worked fine and came back up with the new user
>>>>>> on a Shutdown-Restart. However, after a full shutdown, on the next start the 'old logon
>>>>>> window' format showed with the new user name and when I tried to start I got the error
>>>>>> message "Unable to log on to the Domain. Check User name and Domain for correct entry".
>>>>>> (Before I lost the machine I had confirmed that neither the new user, the old user, or the
>>>>>> Administrator had passwords.) Even changing the User to "Administrator" resulted in the same
>>>>>> error. Then booting into the Safe Mode with exactly the same results. Now neither computer
>>>>>> had ever been on a Domain system.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Both Computers are Dell Dimension computers with Window XP Pro and I have the Dell
>>>>>> Installation disks for both computers, so I tried a Repair Installation. At the end of this
>>>>>> effort and reboot, the same error.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have since used the Dell Installation disks to reformat and reinstall the OS and drivers.
>>>>>> Connected to the Internet and downloaded the many-many updates. However, now both owners
>>>>>> have to reinstall their software and printers.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Question: What did I do wrong? I had done this same task to a Dell Windows XP Home Edition
>>>>>> before and not had a problem.
>>>>>
>>>>> I think the main thing that went wrong is that you came here far too late. Posts with password
>>>>> problems are among the VFAQs and most respondents would have pointed you to Google. If you put
>>>>> the words
>>>>>
>>>>> forgot windows password
>>>>>
>>>>> into a Google search box then you will see what I mean. Most if not all solutions presented on
>>>>> the first page would have solved your problem within 15 minutes, free of charge.
>>>>>
>>>>> The second thing that went wrong is to go for a repair installation. Neither Safe Mode nor a
>>>>> repair installation will do anything about passwords, other than Safe Mode making the
>>>>> Administrator account visible on Windows XP Home machines.
>>>>>
>>>>> What exactly went wrong with your account changes/deletions etc. is hard to say without
>>>>> actually watching you while you do it and probing a little deeper *before* you reformat the
>>>>> disk.
>>>>
>>>> It was confirmed before I began that there was never a password used on the computer.
>>>> I originally booted to all users and confirmed that no password was used, that included the
>>>> Administrator.
>>>> It was not a case of forgotten password. Please read the original post more carefully.
>>>
>>> You missed my point. The words I suggested for the Goole search will guide you to the various
>>> password resetting tools that you will find on Google. Where the password was blank or forgotten
>>> is irrelevant. Useing this approach would have saved you a great deal of time and trouble.
>>>
>>> Your question "what went wrong" is valid but since you destroyed all the evidence, it is
>>> unlikely that you will get a definitive answer.

>>
>>

>
 
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Gord Dibben

Flightless Bird
How does one properly make "stupid changes"?


Gord

On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 11:34:02 -0700, "Doug W." <stand@attention> wrote:

>Lesson learned...don't make stupid changes until you learn how
>to do them properly.
 
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Pegasus [MVP]

Flightless Bird
LOL!

"Gord Dibben" <gorddibbATshawDOTca> said this in news item
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> How does one properly make "stupid changes"?
>
>
> Gord
>
> On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 11:34:02 -0700, "Doug W." <stand@attention> wrote:
>
>>Lesson learned...don't make stupid changes until you learn how
>>to do them properly.

>
 
K

Ken Blake, MVP

Flightless Bird
On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 11:34:02 -0700, "Doug W." <stand@attention> wrote:


> Lesson learned...don't make stupid changes until you learn how
> to do them properly.




I never knew there was a proper way to make stupid changes! ;-)

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Flightless Bird
Very, very carefully!
"Gord Dibben" <gorddibbATshawDOTca> wrote in message
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> How does one properly make "stupid changes"?
>
>
> Gord
>
> On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 11:34:02 -0700, "Doug W." <stand@attention> wrote:
>
>>Lesson learned...don't make stupid changes until you learn how
>>to do them properly.

>
 
D

Doug W.

Flightless Bird
"Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in
message news:0dh6m5lsatotnjch8uj81fhss8aaj5vios@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 11:34:02 -0700, "Doug W."
> <stand@attention> wrote:
>
>
>> Lesson learned...don't make stupid changes until you learn
>> how
>> to do them properly.

>
>
>
> I never knew there was a proper way to make stupid changes!
> ;-)
>
> --
> Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since
> 2003
> Please Reply to the Newsgroup

==
Just an attempt to lighten things up a bit...I should have said
"don't make stupid changes", but that would have been rude.
==
 
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Ken Blake, MVP

Flightless Bird
On Sat, 30 Jan 2010 09:01:45 -0700, "Doug W." <stand@attention> wrote:

>
> "Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in
> message news:0dh6m5lsatotnjch8uj81fhss8aaj5vios@4ax.com...
> > On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 11:34:02 -0700, "Doug W."
> > <stand@attention> wrote:
> >
> >
> >> Lesson learned...don't make stupid changes until you learn
> >> how
> >> to do them properly.

> >
> >
> >
> > I never knew there was a proper way to make stupid changes!
> > ;-)
> >
> > --
> > Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since
> > 2003
> > Please Reply to the Newsgroup

> ==
> Just an attempt to lighten things up a bit...I should have said
> "don't make stupid changes", but that would have been rude.



No problem. Note the ;-) at the end of my message.


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