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I can't get permission....

N

NQ

Flightless Bird
Re: I can't get permission.... XP v Vista/W-7

On 10/16/2010 12:28 PM, Valorie *~~ wrote:

>
> So far we have W-7 here since last month and we're still unable to get
> it to detect the modem although it can communicate with it. Calls to HP
> and Zoom tech support did not get W-7 online with the dial-up
> connection. They could not get W-7 to "detect" the modem. The same
> "Windows cannot detect a modem" error comes up every time even going
> step-by-step with the techs. This makes W-7 useless when the Satellite
> is down due to rain or snow, sometimes even heavy cloud cover. With XP
> we simply clicked on Peoplepc and were online with dial-up in seconds.
>


I'm confused by this statement that you've made because in the "Both
laptop &
desktop Vista & W7" thread you stated-

"Both laptop and desktop Vista PCs, including the new W-7 will no longer
work with dial-up. What MS update did this to our 3 PCs? Yes, it still
works on XP but we don't use the old XP PC anymore. How do we get
dial-up back on Vista and W-7?"


So are you now stating that you've had a problem getting online with a
dialup modem since the beginning. If so why state in the other thread
that your modem problem just started,what's the reason for misleading us
about when your dialup problem started?
 
F

Frank

Flightless Bird
Re: I can't get permission.... XP v Vista/W-7

On 10/16/2010 10:28 AM, Valorie *~~ wrote:
> "Frank" <fab@U64.esd> wrote in message news:4cb8b4f9@news.x-privat.org...
>> On 10/15/2010 12:29 PM, Valorie *~~ wrote:
>>> "Frank" <fab@U64.esd> wrote in message
>>> news:4cb89409$1@news.x-privat.org...
>>>> If you don't like it, and it's obvious you don't, then be smart (if
>>>> possible) and go back to XP.
>>>
>>> Like so many other people I've met online and know in person, I should
>>> have ordered new PCs with XP already in stalled. People are getting wise
>>> to MS and what's going on with it's software. Negative changes and
>>> window dressing..... and a new name = $$$$. That the name of the M$
>>> game.

>>
>> You are either badly mistaken or very ill-informed if you think that
>> Windows 7 is merely XP with Windows dressing.
>>
>> Windows 7 is far superior to XP in every sense of the word.

>
> In what way?


Every way possible.

When we brought the XP PCs home we were set up and online
> by that evening. Files could be moved and deleted at will. No amount of
> added software made it unstable. Everything worked fine right out of the
> box with no calls to tech support or looking for NGs like these.


Most all of the Windows 7 users not had any of the problems you keep
running into. Did you fail to notice that very obvious fact?
>
> So far we have W-7 here since last month and we're still unable to get
> it to detect the modem although it can communicate with it.


FACTOID: Some older hardware, such as modems, don't have updated drivers
for Windows 7.
Suggest you move to cable/router.

Calls to HP
> and Zoom tech support did not get W-7 online with the dial-up
> connection. They could not get W-7 to "detect" the modem. The same
> "Windows cannot detect a modem" error comes up every time even going
> step-by-step with the techs. This makes W-7 useless when the Satellite
> is down due to rain or snow, sometimes even heavy cloud cover. With XP
> we simply clicked on Peoplepc and were online with dial-up in seconds.


Hello, hello, hello...your modem has the correct drivers for XP
(remember XP came out over & YEARS GO!!!).
Got it?
If the modem manufacturer refuses to write drivers for Windows 7 then IT
IS THE FAULT OF THE MANUFACTURER, NOT MS!
GOT IT?
>
> Also, the curser on W-7 and one one of the Vista PCs reverts to default
> every time we shut it off at night. It will not hold the cursor setting
> like the XP PCs do. And now this PC with Vista has more problems with
> the cursor not working on links. I can click on a link on a webpage and
> nothing happens. Nothing like this with the XP PCs over the years. A
> system restore made this desktop Vista even worse. Now Firefox freezes
> for no reason when some links are clicked on. There's a weird little
> square that goes on and off under the cursor arrow. The busy and working
> in background icons no longer work. Just the white arrow with the
> flashing box under it. This PC is becoming unusable. And no, no adware,
> scumware, worms or viruses can be found on any of these PCs. We're now
> looking at System RECOVERY or even a reformat and reinstallation of the
> OSs on the Vista PCs. Never had to do that on the old still working XPs.



> The snip tool and how Vista and W-7 handle images are the only
> improvements we can see. W-7 doesn't even come with a email/Usenet
> client anymore. What's with that?


Anti-trust.

MS couldn't toss in WM or an updated
> version of OE on W-7? HP added WLM. As you know I moved WM from Vista to
> W-7 as WLM was awful with bells and whistles that are useless and WLM is
> a real pain when you have multi-email addresses as we do.


Ridiculous, I have over 7 email addys on WML, both hotmail, live and
outlook.
It's apparent you're using some old hardware that the manufacturers have
failed to write updated drivers for Windows 7.
 
V

Valorie *~~

Flightless Bird
"Dave-UK" <Here@Home.com> wrote in message
news:eJ-dnV4jcpHV4iTRnZ2dnUVZ8tidnZ2d@giganews.com...
>
> "Dave-UK" <Here@Home.com> wrote in message
> news:gPKdncyn-Ot0KyXRnZ2dnUVZ7qednZ2d@giganews.com...
>>
>> "Roy Smith" <rasmith1959@live.com> wrote in message
>> news:_12uo.299790$Yn5.287625@en-nntp-14.dc1.easynews.com...
>>> On 10/15/10 3:46 AM, Dave-UK wrote:
>>>>
>>>> "Brian" <no@email.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:i98386$i8r$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>>>>> I had the same problem, a very simple life-saving fix I found is a
>>>>> registry tweak at:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/wind...ership-to-explorer-right-click-menu-in-vista/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> It adds a "take ownership" option to the RIGHT CLICK menu. You can use
>>>>> it on any folder or file; I even used it on system files and it
>>>>> worked. Of course I had the UAC turned off.
>>>>>
>>>>> It was written for Vista, but I have been using it on Win 7 with no
>>>>> problems.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Brian
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Unfortunately the hack from that site does not include exe files.
>>>> (I'll see if I've still got a reg file that does.)
>>>
>>> Or you can just get the Ultimate Windows Tweaker here:
>>>
>>> http://www.thewindowsclub.com/ultimate-windows-tweaker-v2-a-tweak-ui-for-windows-7-vista
>>>
>>> This adds the take ownership menu item as well as a lot of other tweaks
>>> to Windows 7.
>>>
>>>

>>
>> I've just downloaded that and tried it.
>> It's even worse than the reg hack. It only does folders, not files.
>> And definitely no exe files.
>>

>
> As the Ultimate Windows Tweaker only transfers ownership to folders
> I thought I could create a folder and put any file inside to be processed.
> Well that doesn't work because the Ultimate Windows Tweaker does not
> recurse inside folders. The command has the /r switch missing:
>
> "cmd.exe /c takeown /f "%1" && icacls "%1" /grant administrators:F"
> It should be:
> "cmd.exe /c takeown /f \"%1\" /r /d y && icacls \"%1\" /grant
> administrators:F /t"
>
> The Ultimate Windows Tweaker also has Take Ownership applied to drives,
> and
> that doesn't work either.
>
> I've wrapped up the various reg files into a small program
> to take ownership of all file types and all files in a folder:
> www.megaupload.com/?d=2MOPCTRJ


I went there and got this:

"Filename: Ownership.zip
File description: Take ownership x86 and x64
File size: 780.89 KB
The file you are trying to access is temporarily unavailable."

I'll try again later.
 
L

Lewis

Flightless Bird
Re: I can't get permission.... this doesn't do it.

In message <4cb9d90d@news.x-privat.org>
Valorie *~~ <ValMcl@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> We've already decided the next PCs we get will be MACs


Good decision.


--
Anybody who could duck the Vietnam war can certainly duck a couple of
shoes.
 
C

chrisv

Flightless Bird
Re: I can't get permission.... this doesn't do it.

"Lewis" <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote in message
news:slrnibk00u.1o9c.g.kreme@ibook-g4.local...
> In message <4cb9d90d@news.x-privat.org>
> Valorie *~~ <ValMcl@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>> We've already decided the next PCs we get will be MACs

>
> Good decision.


Good? That's a great... no, that's a Fantastic decision; and I think I'm
speaking for everyone in this group.
 
J

Jack

Flightless Bird
Re: I can't get permission.... this doesn't do it.

"chrisv" <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
news:i9d5bh$ven$1@tornado.tornevall.net...
>
> "Lewis" <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote in message
> news:slrnibk00u.1o9c.g.kreme@ibook-g4.local...
>> In message <4cb9d90d@news.x-privat.org>
>> Valorie *~~ <ValMcl@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>> We've already decided the next PCs we get will be MACs

>>
>> Good decision.

>
> Good? That's a great... no, that's a Fantastic decision; and I think I'm
> speaking for everyone in this group.


That speaks for me.
 
D

Dave-UK

Flightless Bird
"Valorie *~~" <ValMcl@invalid.invalid> wrote in message news:4cb9fd11@news.x-privat.org...
> "Dave-UK" <Here@Home.com> wrote in message news:eJ-dnV4jcpHV4iTRnZ2dnUVZ8tidnZ2d@giganews.com...
>>
>> "Dave-UK" <Here@Home.com> wrote in message news:gPKdncyn-Ot0KyXRnZ2dnUVZ7qednZ2d@giganews.com...
>>>
>>> "Roy Smith" <rasmith1959@live.com> wrote in message
>>> news:_12uo.299790$Yn5.287625@en-nntp-14.dc1.easynews.com...
>>>> On 10/15/10 3:46 AM, Dave-UK wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> "Brian" <no@email.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:i98386$i8r$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>>>>>> I had the same problem, a very simple life-saving fix I found is a
>>>>>> registry tweak at:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/wind...ership-to-explorer-right-click-menu-in-vista/
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It adds a "take ownership" option to the RIGHT CLICK menu. You can use
>>>>>> it on any folder or file; I even used it on system files and it
>>>>>> worked. Of course I had the UAC turned off.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It was written for Vista, but I have been using it on Win 7 with no
>>>>>> problems.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> Brian
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Unfortunately the hack from that site does not include exe files.
>>>>> (I'll see if I've still got a reg file that does.)
>>>>
>>>> Or you can just get the Ultimate Windows Tweaker here:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.thewindowsclub.com/ultimate-windows-tweaker-v2-a-tweak-ui-for-windows-7-vista
>>>>
>>>> This adds the take ownership menu item as well as a lot of other tweaks to Windows 7.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> I've just downloaded that and tried it.
>>> It's even worse than the reg hack. It only does folders, not files.
>>> And definitely no exe files.
>>>

>>
>> As the Ultimate Windows Tweaker only transfers ownership to folders
>> I thought I could create a folder and put any file inside to be processed.
>> Well that doesn't work because the Ultimate Windows Tweaker does not
>> recurse inside folders. The command has the /r switch missing:
>>
>> "cmd.exe /c takeown /f "%1" && icacls "%1" /grant administrators:F"
>> It should be:
>> "cmd.exe /c takeown /f \"%1\" /r /d y && icacls \"%1\" /grant administrators:F /t"
>>
>> The Ultimate Windows Tweaker also has Take Ownership applied to drives, and
>> that doesn't work either.
>>
>> I've wrapped up the various reg files into a small program
>> to take ownership of all file types and all files in a folder:
>> www.megaupload.com/?d=2MOPCTRJ

>
> I went there and got this:
>
> "Filename: Ownership.zip
> File description: Take ownership x86 and x64
> File size: 780.89 KB
> The file you are trying to access is temporarily unavailable."
>
> I'll try again later.
>
>


Try here then:
http://www.mediafire.com/?ckn5r8ilnxkh6jc
 
V

Valorie *~

Flightless Bird
Re: I can't get permission.... XP v Vista/W-7

"NQ" <NQ@midwest.com> wrote in message
news:i9cr1e$g4r$1@news.eternal-september.org...
> On 10/16/2010 12:28 PM, Valorie *~~ wrote:
>
>>
>> So far we have W-7 here since last month and we're still unable to get
>> it to detect the modem although it can communicate with it. Calls to HP
>> and Zoom tech support did not get W-7 online with the dial-up
>> connection. They could not get W-7 to "detect" the modem. The same
>> "Windows cannot detect a modem" error comes up every time even going
>> step-by-step with the techs. This makes W-7 useless when the Satellite
>> is down due to rain or snow, sometimes even heavy cloud cover. With XP
>> we simply clicked on Peoplepc and were online with dial-up in seconds.
>>

>
> I'm confused by this statement that you've made because in the "Both
> laptop &
> desktop Vista & W7" thread you stated-
>
> "Both laptop and desktop Vista PCs, including the new W-7 will no longer
> work with dial-up. What MS update did this to our 3 PCs? Yes, it still
> works on XP but we don't use the old XP PC anymore. How do we get dial-up
> back on Vista and W-7?"
>
>
> So are you now stating that you've had a problem getting online with a
> dialup modem since the beginning.


No. We never had a problem with our dial-up modems in the past on any of the
PCs. It happened suddenly to the 3 newer ones. When XPs were checked, they
could still get online with the dial-up ISP. IOW the older PCs with XP that
we don't update anymore were not affected. A System Recovery (not restore)
has the Vista desktop back online with dial-up. Now it will be many hours
reinstalling software on it.......... :(

If so why state in the other thread
> that your modem problem just started,what's the reason for misleading us
> about when your dialup problem started?


I don't know what you mean. We haven't had any modem problems in the past.
 
V

Valorie *~

Flightless Bird
"Dave-UK" <Here@Home.com> wrote in message
news:TPWdndJ4nKPFgyfRnZ2dnUVZ8sqdnZ2d@giganews.com...
>
> "Valorie *~~" <ValMcl@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
> news:4cb9fd11@news.x-privat.org...
>> "Dave-UK" <Here@Home.com> wrote in message
>> news:eJ-dnV4jcpHV4iTRnZ2dnUVZ8tidnZ2d@giganews.com...
>>>
>>> "Dave-UK" <Here@Home.com> wrote in message
>>> news:gPKdncyn-Ot0KyXRnZ2dnUVZ7qednZ2d@giganews.com...
>>>>
>>>> "Roy Smith" <rasmith1959@live.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:_12uo.299790$Yn5.287625@en-nntp-14.dc1.easynews.com...
>>>>> On 10/15/10 3:46 AM, Dave-UK wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Brian" <no@email.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:i98386$i8r$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>>>>>>> I had the same problem, a very simple life-saving fix I found is a
>>>>>>> registry tweak at:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/wind...ership-to-explorer-right-click-menu-in-vista/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It adds a "take ownership" option to the RIGHT CLICK menu. You can
>>>>>>> use
>>>>>>> it on any folder or file; I even used it on system files and it
>>>>>>> worked. Of course I had the UAC turned off.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It was written for Vista, but I have been using it on Win 7 with no
>>>>>>> problems.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>> Brian
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Unfortunately the hack from that site does not include exe files.
>>>>>> (I'll see if I've still got a reg file that does.)
>>>>>
>>>>> Or you can just get the Ultimate Windows Tweaker here:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.thewindowsclub.com/ultimate-windows-tweaker-v2-a-tweak-ui-for-windows-7-vista
>>>>>
>>>>> This adds the take ownership menu item as well as a lot of other
>>>>> tweaks to Windows 7.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I've just downloaded that and tried it.
>>>> It's even worse than the reg hack. It only does folders, not files.
>>>> And definitely no exe files.
>>>>
>>>
>>> As the Ultimate Windows Tweaker only transfers ownership to folders
>>> I thought I could create a folder and put any file inside to be
>>> processed.
>>> Well that doesn't work because the Ultimate Windows Tweaker does not
>>> recurse inside folders. The command has the /r switch missing:
>>>
>>> "cmd.exe /c takeown /f "%1" && icacls "%1" /grant administrators:F"
>>> It should be:
>>> "cmd.exe /c takeown /f \"%1\" /r /d y && icacls \"%1\" /grant
>>> administrators:F /t"
>>>
>>> The Ultimate Windows Tweaker also has Take Ownership applied to drives,
>>> and
>>> that doesn't work either.
>>>
>>> I've wrapped up the various reg files into a small program
>>> to take ownership of all file types and all files in a folder:
>>> www.megaupload.com/?d=2MOPCTRJ

>>
>> I went there and got this:
>>
>> "Filename: Ownership.zip
>> File description: Take ownership x86 and x64
>> File size: 780.89 KB
>> The file you are trying to access is temporarily unavailable."
>>
>> I'll try again later.
>>
>>

>
> Try here then:
> http://www.mediafire.com/?ckn5r8ilnxkh6jc


That took me to Facebook and I didn't see anywhere to download anything on
the Facebook page. I'm not looking for filesharing software.


>
>
>
 
C

Char Jackson

Flightless Bird
On Sat, 16 Oct 2010 11:32:36 +0100, "Dave-UK" <Here@Home.com> wrote:

>
>"Dave-UK" <Here@Home.com> wrote in message news:gPKdncyn-Ot0KyXRnZ2dnUVZ7qednZ2d@giganews.com...
>>
>> "Roy Smith" <rasmith1959@live.com> wrote in message
>> news:_12uo.299790$Yn5.287625@en-nntp-14.dc1.easynews.com...
>>> On 10/15/10 3:46 AM, Dave-UK wrote:
>>>>
>>>> "Brian" <no@email.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:i98386$i8r$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>>>>> I had the same problem, a very simple life-saving fix I found is a
>>>>> registry tweak at:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/wind...ership-to-explorer-right-click-menu-in-vista/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> It adds a "take ownership" option to the RIGHT CLICK menu. You can use
>>>>> it on any folder or file; I even used it on system files and it
>>>>> worked. Of course I had the UAC turned off.
>>>>>
>>>>> It was written for Vista, but I have been using it on Win 7 with no
>>>>> problems.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Brian
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Unfortunately the hack from that site does not include exe files.
>>>> (I'll see if I've still got a reg file that does.)
>>>
>>> Or you can just get the Ultimate Windows Tweaker here:
>>>
>>> http://www.thewindowsclub.com/ultimate-windows-tweaker-v2-a-tweak-ui-for-windows-7-vista
>>>
>>> This adds the take ownership menu item as well as a lot of other tweaks to Windows 7.
>>>
>>>

>>
>> I've just downloaded that and tried it.
>> It's even worse than the reg hack. It only does folders, not files.
>> And definitely no exe files.
>>

>
>As the Ultimate Windows Tweaker only transfers ownership to folders
>I thought I could create a folder and put any file inside to be processed.
>Well that doesn't work because the Ultimate Windows Tweaker does not
>recurse inside folders. The command has the /r switch missing:

<snip>

I haven't tried it myself to see if it works, but I see that the
Ultimate Windows Tweaker does indeed have commands for Take Ownership
of drives, folders, and files. Are the two of you saying that it can't
take ownership of files even though it has a specific context menu
command for that?
 
D

Dave-UK

Flightless Bird
"Char Jackson" <none@none.invalid> wrote in message
news:gsvkb61o3lh3ie2jm60ffs0o15rppdnabi@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 16 Oct 2010 11:32:36 +0100, "Dave-UK" <Here@Home.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Dave-UK" <Here@Home.com> wrote in message news:gPKdncyn-Ot0KyXRnZ2dnUVZ7qednZ2d@giganews.com...
>>>
>>> "Roy Smith" <rasmith1959@live.com> wrote in message
>>> news:_12uo.299790$Yn5.287625@en-nntp-14.dc1.easynews.com...
>>>> On 10/15/10 3:46 AM, Dave-UK wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> "Brian" <no@email.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:i98386$i8r$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>>>>>> I had the same problem, a very simple life-saving fix I found is a
>>>>>> registry tweak at:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/wind...ership-to-explorer-right-click-menu-in-vista/
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It adds a "take ownership" option to the RIGHT CLICK menu. You can use
>>>>>> it on any folder or file; I even used it on system files and it
>>>>>> worked. Of course I had the UAC turned off.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It was written for Vista, but I have been using it on Win 7 with no
>>>>>> problems.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> Brian
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Unfortunately the hack from that site does not include exe files.
>>>>> (I'll see if I've still got a reg file that does.)
>>>>
>>>> Or you can just get the Ultimate Windows Tweaker here:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.thewindowsclub.com/ultimate-windows-tweaker-v2-a-tweak-ui-for-windows-7-vista
>>>>
>>>> This adds the take ownership menu item as well as a lot of other tweaks to Windows 7.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> I've just downloaded that and tried it.
>>> It's even worse than the reg hack. It only does folders, not files.
>>> And definitely no exe files.
>>>

>>
>>As the Ultimate Windows Tweaker only transfers ownership to folders
>>I thought I could create a folder and put any file inside to be processed.
>>Well that doesn't work because the Ultimate Windows Tweaker does not
>>recurse inside folders. The command has the /r switch missing:

> <snip>
>
> I haven't tried it myself to see if it works, but I see that the
> Ultimate Windows Tweaker does indeed have commands for Take Ownership
> of drives, folders, and files. Are the two of you saying that it can't
> take ownership of files even though it has a specific context menu
> command for that?


You are correct, I missed the file setting.
On the Additional Tweaks page the Take Ownership setting is
split between Drives and Folders and Files only. I missed the
lower setting when I posted earlier.
On taking a second look and selecting the files option the context
menu now has Take Ownership listed on Drives, folders and files.
I tried Taking Ownership of a thumb drive and there was no change to
the owner (System) or any files on it.
The folder option works but only for the folder, any files inside the folder
are untouched.
The file option works on files but not exe files. The context menu is missing
when you right-click an exe file.
So it will do folders only and any file except an exe file.
 
D

Dave-UK

Flightless Bird
"Valorie *~" <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote in message news:4cba6fa0@news.x-privat.org...
>
> " "Dave-UK" <Here@Home.com> wrote in message
>> Try here then:
>> http://www.mediafire.com/?ckn5r8ilnxkh6jc

>
> That took me to Facebook and I didn't see anywhere to download anything on
> the Facebook page. I'm not looking for filesharing software.
>


Anyone else ending up on Facebook, or is it just happening to Valorie *~ ?
 
R

Roy Smith

Flightless Bird
On 10/17/10 5:13 AM, Dave-UK wrote:
>
> "Valorie *~" <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
> news:4cba6fa0@news.x-privat.org...
>>
>> " "Dave-UK" <Here@Home.com> wrote in message
>>> Try here then:
>>> http://www.mediafire.com/?ckn5r8ilnxkh6jc

>>
>> That took me to Facebook and I didn't see anywhere to download
>> anything on the Facebook page. I'm not looking for filesharing software.
>>

>
> Anyone else ending up on Facebook, or is it just happening to Valorie *~ ?


Just tried it and I didn't end up on Facebook...


--

Roy Smith
Windows 7 Professional
Thunderbird 3.1.4
Sunday, October 17, 2010 5:56:10 AM
 
J

Jack

Flightless Bird
"Dave-UK" <Here@Home.com> wrote in message
news:T5SdnZ9QO7rOUSfRnZ2dnUVZ8oSdnZ2d@giganews.com...
>
> "Valorie *~" <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
> news:4cba6fa0@news.x-privat.org...
>>
>> " "Dave-UK" <Here@Home.com> wrote in message
>>> Try here then:
>>> http://www.mediafire.com/?ckn5r8ilnxkh6jc

>>
>> That took me to Facebook and I didn't see anywhere to download anything
>> on the Facebook page. I'm not looking for filesharing software.
>>

>
> Anyone else ending up on Facebook, or is it just happening to Valorie *~
> ?
>
>
>
>


Ownership.zip ...as usual, just Valorie *~
 
D

Dave-UK

Flightless Bird
"Jack" <nospam@invalid.not> wrote in message news:tjCuo.1312$TJ7.333@newsfe11.iad...
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> "Dave-UK" <Here@Home.com> wrote in message
> news:T5SdnZ9QO7rOUSfRnZ2dnUVZ8oSdnZ2d@giganews.com...
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>> "Valorie *~" <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:4cba6fa0@news.x-privat.org...
>>>
>>> " "Dave-UK" <Here@Home.com> wrote in message
>>>> Try here then:
>>>> http://www.mediafire.com/?ckn5r8ilnxkh6jc
>>>
>>> That took me to Facebook and I didn't see anywhere to download anything
>>> on the Facebook page. I'm not looking for filesharing software.
>>>

>>
>> Anyone else ending up on Facebook, or is it just happening to Valorie *~
>> ?
>>
>>
>>
>>

>
> Ownership.zip ...as usual, just Valorie *~
>


Maybe Valorie *~ has some malware onboard.
 
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Char Jackson

Flightless Bird
On Sun, 17 Oct 2010 11:13:35 +0100, "Dave-UK" <Here@Home.com> wrote:

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>"Valorie *~" <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote in message news:4cba6fa0@news.x-privat.org...
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>> " "Dave-UK" <Here@Home.com> wrote in message
>>> Try here then:
>>> http://www.mediafire.com/?ckn5r8ilnxkh6jc

>>
>> That took me to Facebook and I didn't see anywhere to download anything on
>> the Facebook page. I'm not looking for filesharing software.
>>

>
>Anyone else ending up on Facebook, or is it just happening to Valorie *~ ?


I gave it a try and found that a Business Week page opened while the
file was downloading. Tried it a second time and a Realtor.com page
opened while the file was downloading. If I kept at it, I suppose a
Facebook page would come up eventually. Tried it one last time and a
page for mycollegedegree.com opened during the download.
 
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Char Jackson

Flightless Bird
On Sun, 17 Oct 2010 10:41:17 +0100, "Dave-UK" <Here@Home.com> wrote:

>"Char Jackson" <none@none.invalid> wrote in message
>news:gsvkb61o3lh3ie2jm60ffs0o15rppdnabi@4ax.com...
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>> I haven't tried it myself to see if it works, but I see that the
>> Ultimate Windows Tweaker does indeed have commands for Take Ownership
>> of drives, folders, and files. Are the two of you saying that it can't
>> take ownership of files even though it has a specific context menu
>> command for that?

>
>You are correct, I missed the file setting.
>On the Additional Tweaks page the Take Ownership setting is
>split between Drives and Folders and Files only. I missed the
>lower setting when I posted earlier.
>On taking a second look and selecting the files option the context
>menu now has Take Ownership listed on Drives, folders and files.
>I tried Taking Ownership of a thumb drive and there was no change to
>the owner (System) or any files on it.
>The folder option works but only for the folder, any files inside the folder
>are untouched.
>The file option works on files but not exe files. The context menu is missing
>when you right-click an exe file.
>So it will do folders only and any file except an exe file.


Thanks for confirming. Good info to know, especially the 'no exe'
limitation.
 
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relic

Flightless Bird
"Dave-UK" <Here@Home.com> wrote in message
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> "Jack" <nospam@invalid.not> wrote in message
> news:tjCuo.1312$TJ7.333@newsfe11.iad...
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>> "Dave-UK" <Here@Home.com> wrote in message
>> news:T5SdnZ9QO7rOUSfRnZ2dnUVZ8oSdnZ2d@giganews.com...
>>>
>>> "Valorie *~" <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
>>> news:4cba6fa0@news.x-privat.org...
>>>>
>>>> " "Dave-UK" <Here@Home.com> wrote in message
>>>>> Try here then:
>>>>> http://www.mediafire.com/?ckn5r8ilnxkh6jc
>>>>
>>>> That took me to Facebook and I didn't see anywhere to download anything
>>>> on the Facebook page. I'm not looking for filesharing software.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Anyone else ending up on Facebook, or is it just happening to Valorie *~
>>> ?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>

>>
>> Ownership.zip ...as usual, just Valorie *~

>
> Maybe Valorie *~ has some malware onboard.
>
>


I think I would bet on that, but she probably only uses 'freebies' which
often won't detect the newest Malware.

She should run some of the better on-line scans, Spysweeper is a top-rated
product with a scan available. SuperAntiSpyware is pretty good too.
 
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relic

Flightless Bird
"Char Jackson" <none@none.invalid> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 17 Oct 2010 11:13:35 +0100, "Dave-UK" <Here@Home.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Valorie *~" <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
>>news:4cba6fa0@news.x-privat.org...
>>>
>>> " "Dave-UK" <Here@Home.com> wrote in message
>>>> Try here then:
>>>> http://www.mediafire.com/?ckn5r8ilnxkh6jc
>>>
>>> That took me to Facebook and I didn't see anywhere to download anything
>>> on
>>> the Facebook page. I'm not looking for filesharing software.
>>>

>>
>>Anyone else ending up on Facebook, or is it just happening to Valorie *~
>>?

>
> I gave it a try and found that a Business Week page opened while the
> file was downloading. Tried it a second time and a Realtor.com page
> opened while the file was downloading. If I kept at it, I suppose a
> Facebook page would come up eventually. Tried it one last time and a
> page for mycollegedegree.com opened during the download.
>


Those are from MediaFire, "normal" popup blocker setting let them through.
 
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Dave-UK

Flightless Bird
"relic" <relic211@cjb.net> wrote in message news:45bras.kng.17.1@news.alt.net...
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> "Dave-UK" <Here@Home.com> wrote in message
> news:leqdnU3hJ6JRYSfRnZ2dnUVZ8uadnZ2d@giganews.com...
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>> "Jack" <nospam@invalid.not> wrote in message
>> news:tjCuo.1312$TJ7.333@newsfe11.iad...
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>>> "Dave-UK" <Here@Home.com> wrote in message
>>> news:T5SdnZ9QO7rOUSfRnZ2dnUVZ8oSdnZ2d@giganews.com...
>>>>
>>>> "Valorie *~" <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
>>>> news:4cba6fa0@news.x-privat.org...
>>>>>
>>>>> " "Dave-UK" <Here@Home.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> Try here then:
>>>>>> http://www.mediafire.com/?ckn5r8ilnxkh6jc
>>>>>
>>>>> That took me to Facebook and I didn't see anywhere to download anything
>>>>> on the Facebook page. I'm not looking for filesharing software.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Anyone else ending up on Facebook, or is it just happening to Valorie *~
>>>> ?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Ownership.zip ...as usual, just Valorie *~

>>
>> Maybe Valorie *~ has some malware onboard.
>>
>>

>
> I think I would bet on that, but she probably only uses 'freebies' which
> often won't detect the newest Malware.
>
> She should run some of the better on-line scans, Spysweeper is a top-rated
> product with a scan available. SuperAntiSpyware is pretty good too.
>
>
>


I remember a long thread ( quelle suprise! ) on a microsoft vista newsgroup
where Valorie, as she was then, complained about an orphaned context menu
entry still on her computer even though she had uninstalled the program.
I think it was SuperAntiSpyware (or maybe Spybot). Same old story of plenty
of help but all of it seeming to confuse her even further. Of course it was because
everyone trying to help was a 'techie' talking technical stuff and all she wanted was
help that a normal person could understand.
Back then she used to get her next door neighbour's son to fix her computer because
he was ' a geek '. I wonder what happened to him.
 
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