How to suspend XP without exiting window?

[Eric]

For XP with SP3, I have tried sleep mode, but the fan and power for my PC are
still on, I would like to suspend XP, which the fan and power will be off.
Does anyone have any suggestions on how to suspend XP without exiting window?
Thanks in advance for any suggestions
Eric

 

[John John - MVP]

You'll have to hibernate the machine.

John

Eric wrote:
> For XP with SP3, I have tried sleep mode, but the fan and power for my PC are
> still on, I would like to suspend XP, which the fan and power will be off.
> Does anyone have any suggestions on how to suspend XP without exiting window?
> Thanks in advance for any suggestions
> Eric

 

[Jose]

On Apr 6, 5:08 am, Eric <E...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> For XP with SP3, I have tried sleep mode, but the fan and power for my PCare
> still on, I would like to suspend XP, which the fan and power will be off..
> Does anyone have any suggestions on how to suspend XP without exiting window?
> Thanks in advance for any suggestions
> Eric

It sounds like it is working as designed.

Hibernate may be what you are looking for and is safer than Stand By.

To Hibernate, first you must enable it from Control Panel, Power
Options, Hibernate tab - put a check in the box to Enable hibernation.

Go back to the Power Schemes tab and set up your options, times, etc.
Mine is set to hibernate after 30 minutes. I choose never to use
Stand By because it is inherently riskier for your data and does not
turn off the fans (as you observed). Stand By has a purpose, but you
need to understand the purpose, consequences and risk before using it.

You can manually enter Hibernate. When you click Start, Turn Off
Computer you are presented with the Stand By, Turn Off and Restart
options.

If you press the Shift key, the Stand By button will turn into
Hibernate. You can also add a Hibernate button on that screen if you
want (later), but first you have to make sure the hibernate mechanism
works. You can just click the Hibernate button (or press the h key
for Hibernate) and not have to press the Shift key.

If you cannot enable Hibernation through the power options or the
Stand By button does not turn into Hibernate when you press the shift
key, we need to know more about your system (and also your video
driver information) and then we can fix it:

Click Start, Run and in the box enter:

msinfo32

Click OK, and when the System Summary info appears, click Edit, Select
All, Copy and then paste the information back here.

There will be some personal information (like System Name and User
Name), and whatever appears to be private information to you, just
delete it from the pasted information.

For video driver information, expand the Components, click Display,
click Edit, Select All, Copy and then paste the information.

This will minimize back and forth Q&A and eliminate guesswork.

 

[Eric]

Could you please tell me how to wake XP up? I am using USB wireless keyboard
and mouse, and try click any button on keyboard, which does not work.
I need to push power button to wake XP up.
Do you have any suggestions?
Thanks in advance for any suggestions
Eric

"John John - MVP" wrote:

> You'll have to hibernate the machine.
>
> John
>
> Eric wrote:
> > For XP with SP3, I have tried sleep mode, but the fan and power for my PC are
> > still on, I would like to suspend XP, which the fan and power will be off.
> > Does anyone have any suggestions on how to suspend XP without exiting window?
> > Thanks in advance for any suggestions
> > Eric
> .
>

 

[John John - MVP]

Eric wrote:
> Could you please tell me how to wake XP up? I am using USB wireless keyboard
> and mouse, and try click any button on keyboard, which does not work.
> I need to push power button to wake XP up.

That is how hibernation works, it saves everything in the RAM to the
hibernator file (hiberfil.sys) then it powers down the computer. To
restart the computer you have to press the power button, then if the
boot loader (ntldr) finds a valid hibernator file it sucks it into
memory and returns the computer back from hibernation. If ntldr doesn't
find a valid hiberfil.sys file it parses the boot.ini file or looks for
the Windows installation and it boots Windows normally.

> Do you have any suggestions?

Not really, the newer Windows versions have hybrid sleep... but that
isn't available for Windows XP.

John

 

[Jose]

On Apr 6, 9:23 am, Eric <E...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> Could you please tell me how to wake XP up? I am using USB wireless keyboard
> and mouse, and try click any button on keyboard, which does not work.
> I need to push power button to wake XP up.
> Do you have any suggestions?
> Thanks in advance for any suggestions
> Eric
>
> "John John - MVP" wrote:
>
>
>
> > You'll have to hibernate the machine.
>
> > John
>
> > Eric wrote:
> > > For XP with SP3, I have tried sleep mode, but the fan and power for my PC are
> > > still on, I would like to suspend XP, which the fan and power will beoff.
> > > Does anyone have any suggestions on how to suspend XP without exitingwindow?
> > > Thanks in advance for any suggestions
> > > Eric
> > .

Part of the correct answer depends on of you want to wake XP up from
Hibernation or Stand By.

Another part of the correct answer depends on your yet to be provided
system information. Did msinfo32 not work for you?

The final part of the correct answer may depend on this new
information about your wireless accessories. What kind of wireless KB
and mouse are you using?

Pushing the power button may be perfectly normal for what you are
doing and your system configuration - none of which we are sure of at
this point.

How do you think it should be working or how would you like it to work?

 

[PA Bear [MS MVP]]

Got Google?

Power Management in Windows XP:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/setup/learnmore/russel_02march25.mspx

How to troubleshoot hibernation and standby issues in Windows XP:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/907477

If the fan's still running, (1) the computer's running "hot" and (2) it's in
Standby mode.


Eric wrote:
> For XP with SP3, I have tried sleep mode, but the fan and power for my PC
> are still on, I would like to suspend XP, which the fan and power will be
> off. Does anyone have any suggestions on how to suspend XP without exiting
> window? Thanks in advance for any suggestions
> Eric

 

[John]

On Tue, 6 Apr 2010 02:08:03 -0700, Eric
<Eric@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>For XP with SP3, I have tried sleep mode, but the fan and power for my PC are
>still on, I would like to suspend XP, which the fan and power will be off.
>Does anyone have any suggestions on how to suspend XP without exiting window?
>Thanks in advance for any suggestions
>Eric

By "sleep" do you mean Stand By? What the computer does in Standby
mode is usually controlled by the motherboard's BIOS and can be
configured by a CMOS setting. If you're comfortable modifying the
CMOS settings (usually you get to the setup screen by hitting escape
or F1 or some special key during the first few seconds of bootup) you
can see how it's set and change it if you don't like it.

On my computer the setting is called ACPI Suspend Type and the choices
are S1 and S3. If set to S1 (ACPI power state state S1), it does as
you describe. If set to state S3, virtually everything is powered
off when in Standby. The fans stop, the drives spin down, the monitor
goes to standby and the processor itself is un-powered. The only
power being drawn is a trickle to keep the RAM refreshed and to power
the mouse and keyboard ports so it can be woke up.

Reply-to address is real

 

[Paul]

Eric wrote:
> For XP with SP3, I have tried sleep mode, but the fan and power for my PC are
> still on, I would like to suspend XP, which the fan and power will be off.
> Does anyone have any suggestions on how to suspend XP without exiting window?
> Thanks in advance for any suggestions
> Eric

First, start in the BIOS setup screens. On my motherboards here,
there are options for S1, S3, S1&S3 for Standby. S1 Standby leaves
the fans running (what you've got now). S3 Standby Suspend To RAM
turns the fans off and saves the session in RAM.

For S3 Standby to work, the switch on the back of the computer must
remain in the ON position. The +5VSB supply rail on the supply
continues to run. The +5VSB is used as a power source, to keep
the RAM refreshed in S3 Standby.

To wake a computer, there is a section of the BIOS controlling
waking events. For example, there might be "Wake on Ring", used
with the RS-232 Serial port, to wake a computer when a connected
dialup modem detects the ringing signal. There will be a BIOS
page, populated with options like that.

Once you've enabled whatever waking features are needed in the
BIOS, the next step is to visit Device Manager. There are options
on selected hardware devices in there, to do things like
"Allow this device to bring the computer out of standby".
That is part of getting a "Wake Up" feature to work.

For a peripheral to wake the computer from S3 Standby, the
peripheral must be powered. If I expected my USB keyboard
to wake the computer, the keyboard would need to be
powered from +5VSB. On newer computers, that may be the only
powering choice. On older computers, jumper plugs may be
present on the motherboard surface, for selecting +5V or +5VSB.
Selecting the +5V, prevents a peripheral from ever waking up the
computer from S3 Standby. I used that feature, to prevent nuisance
waking from say, a little vibration shaking a USB mouse.

In your current situation, you may not have enabled S3 Standby
in the BIOS. To repair the damage, Microsoft makes a 12KB utility
called "dumppo.exe". It can be used to do an "Administrative Override"
and correct the Standby setting in Windows. Once done, you'll then
be able to make the computer sleep, with the fans off.

(Last known location of "dumppo")

ftp://ftp.microsoft.com/Products/Oemtest/v1.1/WOSTest/Tools/Acpi/dumppo.exe

Not all devices can wake a computer. For example, if you have
a wireless USB mouse and keyboard, the ability to wake the
system will rely on the USB receiver dongle plugged into the
computer. If it has one of those "Allow this device..." entries
in its Device Manager properties, then it may support waking.
The dongle must remain powered by +5VSB, for that to work.

Some computers are not completely stable in S3 Standby. My previous
Asrock motherboard, would fail to wake up from S3, about one in four attempts.
All the Intel chipset based motherboards I've used, have functioned
perfectly in that regard. If you have trouble with S3 Standby, then
switch to S4 Hibernate, as that is a much safer alternative, and
it is safe against power interruptions.

With S3 Standby, a UPS is recommended, to prevent one second power
outages from killing your session stored in RAM. If the power outage
is long enough, then the UPS will run out of juice, and the current
session in RAM will be lost. S4 Hibernate can survive such power issues,
because the session is stored on the hard drive.

Paul