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How to move outlook saved email to win7 live mail

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Gene E. Bloch

Flightless Bird
On Thu, 1 Jul 2010 20:11:48 -0400, Dr. Tinto wrote:

> Does anyone here know how I can do this?


I don't have any mail in either, so I can only offer a suggestion.

Look at the export options of the one and the import options of the other.

If anything matches, you are home free...

--
Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)
 
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Gene E. Bloch

Flightless Bird
On Thu, 1 Jul 2010 20:27:51 -0700, Gene E. Bloch wrote:

> On Thu, 1 Jul 2010 20:11:48 -0400, Dr. Tinto wrote:
>
>> Does anyone here know how I can do this?

>
> I don't have any mail in either, so I can only offer a suggestion.
>
> Look at the export options of the one and the import options of the other.
>
> If anything matches, you are home free...


I took a quick look. Not good...

Outlook exports as CSV, WLM imports WLM, WM, and OE.

BUT - Thunderbird, which is free, imports Outlook mail. Then maybe you can
export it in a useful fashion. I did export some mail from Thunderbird to
Windows Live Mail a few weeks ago, before I decided to stick to T'Bird, but
I forget exactly how, and I'm not seeing it at the moment.

--
Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)
 
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Gordon

Flightless Bird
"Peter Foldes" <maci252211@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:i0jp7d$cib$1@speranza.aioe.org...
> http://www.slipstick.com/config/move_outlook.asp
>


Good try Peter - unfortunately that page tells the OP how to move Outlook
from one computer to another - not how to move Outlook from one computer to
WINDOWS LIVE MAIL on another...
 
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Gordon

Flightless Bird
"Dr. Tinto" <rtinto@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:%8aXn.2459$Zp1.1991@newsfe15.iad...
> Does anyone here know how I can do this?
>


Install Outlook on the new computer and use it rather than WLM?
 
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LouB

Flightless Bird
Gordon wrote:
>
> "Dr. Tinto" <rtinto@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:%8aXn.2459$Zp1.1991@newsfe15.iad...
>> Does anyone here know how I can do this?
>>

>
> Install Outlook on the new computer and use it rather than WLM?

Does not work on Win 7
 
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Nil

Flightless Bird
On 02 Jul 2010, LouB <Lou@invalid.invalid> wrote in
alt.windows7.general:

> Gordon wrote:
>> Install Outlook on the new computer and use it rather than WLM?


> Does not work on Win 7


You don't know what you're talking about. Outlook runs just fine on
Windows 7.
 
R

R. C. White

Flightless Bird
Hi, Lou.

Outlook works fine on Win7 - and just about any other version of Windows.

Outlook Express doesn't work on any Windows after Windows XP - including
Win7.

RC
--
R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX
rc@grandecom.net
Microsoft Windows MVP
Windows Live Mail 2010 (15.3.2804.0607) in Win7 Ultimate x64)

"LouB" wrote in message news:4C2DE134.4030907@invalid.invalid...

Gordon wrote:
>
> "Dr. Tinto" <rtinto@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:%8aXn.2459$Zp1.1991@newsfe15.iad...
>> Does anyone here know how I can do this?
>>

>
> Install Outlook on the new computer and use it rather than WLM?

Does not work on Win 7
 
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Dr. Tinto

Flightless Bird
"Gene E. Bloch" <not-me@other.invalid> wrote in message
news:4p149kgsqfze.jpg6o14a011u$.dlg@40tude.net...
> On Thu, 1 Jul 2010 20:27:51 -0700, Gene E. Bloch wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 1 Jul 2010 20:11:48 -0400, Dr. Tinto wrote:
>>
>>> Does anyone here know how I can do this?

>>
>> I don't have any mail in either, so I can only offer a suggestion.
>>
>> Look at the export options of the one and the import options of the
>> other.
>>
>> If anything matches, you are home free...

>
> I took a quick look. Not good...
>
> Outlook exports as CSV, WLM imports WLM, WM, and OE.
>
> BUT - Thunderbird, which is free, imports Outlook mail. Then maybe you can
> export it in a useful fashion. I did export some mail from Thunderbird to
> Windows Live Mail a few weeks ago, before I decided to stick to T'Bird,
> but
> I forget exactly how, and I'm not seeing it at the moment.


That sound like it's worth a try - thanks.

I'm using outlook now. The only real objection is there is no "delete from
server" option in the message rules.
 
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Ken Blake

Flightless Bird
On Fri, 02 Jul 2010 09:00:50 -0400, Nil
<rednoise@REMOVETHIScomcast.net> wrote:

> On 02 Jul 2010, LouB <Lou@invalid.invalid> wrote in
> alt.windows7.general:
>
> > Gordon wrote:
> >> Install Outlook on the new computer and use it rather than WLM?

>
> > Does not work on Win 7

>
> You don't know what you're talking about. Outlook runs just fine on
> Windows 7.



That depends on the version of Outlook. Outlook 2003, 2007, and 2010
work fine. Older versions may work, but with some problems.
 
J

Jan Alter

Flightless Bird
"R. C. White" <rc@grandecom.net> wrote in message
news:NMWdnel7Pr_hd7DRnZ2dnUVZ_gCdnZ2d@posted.grandecom...
> Hi, Lou.
>
> Outlook works fine on Win7 - and just about any other version of Windows.
>
> Outlook Express doesn't work on any Windows after Windows XP - including
> Win7.
>
> RC
> --
> R. C. White, CPA
> San Marcos, TX
> rc@grandecom.net
> Microsoft Windows MVP
> Windows Live Mail 2010 (15.3.2804.0607) in Win7 Ultimate x64)
>
> "LouB" wrote in message news:4C2DE134.4030907@invalid.invalid...
>
> Gordon wrote:
>>
>> "Dr. Tinto" <rtinto@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:%8aXn.2459$Zp1.1991@newsfe15.iad...
>>> Does anyone here know how I can do this?
>>>

>>
>> Install Outlook on the new computer and use it rather than WLM?

> Does not work on Win 7


Sometimes reading these newsgroups can be expensive. The OP's original
question raised some concerns to my own old emails that I had removed from
the computer several years ago simply because all that mail was creating a
folder of a more than a gigabyte of storage and it dated back to 1997.
I decided this morning to see about importring those mail folders to OE
and found that I would only get an error "no messages can be found....". I
also tried placing just one of the dbx folders in the folder where all the
other dbx folder resided, and restarted OE, and even rebooted the computer.
No luck. I then tried getting the files to be imported using our laptop that
ran Win7 and Windows Live Mail. That didn't work. I installed Thunderbird
and when I tried to import them the Thunderbird import box went gray. The
dbx box got imported but there were no emails in it. This was getting
excessively frustrating.
Finally going to the Internet looking for something free that would open
dbx files. Nothing free was obvioulsy showing up, although I did come across
the fact that dbx files could be opened in Wordpad and one could actually
read the text of each email. Still each email was not neatly coming up for
easy viewing without a lot of scrolling between symbols and discernable text
using the Wordpad method. However, I came across a program called DBXTriever
http://www.dbxtriever.com/ . Tried this (free 3 day trial) and every email
immediately came up. Installed it on Windows 7 and it worked just as well as
on XP. It cost me $20 but I'm satisfied that I can easily get email that I
saved back to '97. So for anyone else out there suddenly wondering about
their old 'dbx' files this program might be worth less aggravation. As I
mentioned before one can try it before buying it.

--
Jan Alter
bearpuf@verizon.net
 
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Gordon

Flightless Bird
"Jan Alter" <bearpuf@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:i0l6hp$mfk$1@news.eternal-september.org...

> and found that I would only get an error "no messages can be found....".


That's presumably because your archived message folders did NOT contain the
folder called Folders.dbx

> I also tried placing just one of the dbx folders in the folder where all
> the other dbx folder resided, and restarted OE, and even rebooted the
> computer. No luck.


The answer for individual folders is to open OE, create a new folder with
EXACTLY THE SAME NAME, but do NOT put anything into it.
Then close OE and paste the original folder into the message store,
overwriting the newly-created one. Then when you re-open OE the folder
should be there in it's entirety...
 
R

R. C. White

Flightless Bird
Hi, Jan.

In addition to the other tips...

> I decided this morning to see about importring those mail folders to OE

and found that I would only get an error "no messages can be found....".

If you meant Importing from OE into WLMail (or WM in Vista), then you may
have forgotten to give yourself to look into those folders. That's what
happened to me when I first tried to migrate from WinXP to WM a few years
ago. I finally learned that I had to either (a) give myself permission to
see into the folders where the .dbx files ("folders", OE calls them) were
lurking, or (b) move those dbx folders - including the most important
Folders.dbx - into a folder where I already had that permission. Once I did
that, WLM had no trouble seeing the old messages and importing them.

Another trick that many users have used is to install WLMail onto the WinXP
computer. (WLM runs in WinXP, Vista and Win7.) Then Import the messages in
WLM on that computer. Later, depending on how you plan to use those
messages, you might archive them in WLM format, or move them to your Win7
computer.

Have you seen http://www.oehelp.com/ ? MVP Steve Cochran was my go to guru
when I ran OE. He offers several utility programs for OE and WM - some
free, some not.

RC
--
R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX
rc@grandecom.net
Microsoft Windows MVP
Windows Live Mail 2010 (15.3.2804.0607) in Win7 Ultimate x64)


"Jan Alter" wrote in message
news:i0l6hp$mfk$1@news.eternal-september.org...

"R. C. White" <rc@grandecom.net> wrote in message
news:NMWdnel7Pr_hd7DRnZ2dnUVZ_gCdnZ2d@posted.grandecom...
> Hi, Lou.
>
> Outlook works fine on Win7 - and just about any other version of Windows.
>
> Outlook Express doesn't work on any Windows after Windows XP - including
> Win7.
>
> RC
>
> "LouB" wrote in message news:4C2DE134.4030907@invalid.invalid...
>
> Gordon wrote:
>>
>> "Dr. Tinto" <rtinto@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:%8aXn.2459$Zp1.1991@newsfe15.iad...
>>> Does anyone here know how I can do this?
>>>

>>
>> Install Outlook on the new computer and use it rather than WLM?

> Does not work on Win 7


Sometimes reading these newsgroups can be expensive. The OP's original
question raised some concerns to my own old emails that I had removed from
the computer several years ago simply because all that mail was creating a
folder of a more than a gigabyte of storage and it dated back to 1997.
I decided this morning to see about importring those mail folders to OE
and found that I would only get an error "no messages can be found....". I
also tried placing just one of the dbx folders in the folder where all the
other dbx folder resided, and restarted OE, and even rebooted the computer.
No luck. I then tried getting the files to be imported using our laptop that
ran Win7 and Windows Live Mail. That didn't work. I installed Thunderbird
and when I tried to import them the Thunderbird import box went gray. The
dbx box got imported but there were no emails in it. This was getting
excessively frustrating.
Finally going to the Internet looking for something free that would open
dbx files. Nothing free was obvioulsy showing up, although I did come across
the fact that dbx files could be opened in Wordpad and one could actually
read the text of each email. Still each email was not neatly coming up for
easy viewing without a lot of scrolling between symbols and discernable text
using the Wordpad method. However, I came across a program called DBXTriever
http://www.dbxtriever.com/ . Tried this (free 3 day trial) and every email
immediately came up. Installed it on Windows 7 and it worked just as well as
on XP. It cost me $20 but I'm satisfied that I can easily get email that I
saved back to '97. So for anyone else out there suddenly wondering about
their old 'dbx' files this program might be worth less aggravation. As I
mentioned before one can try it before buying it.

--
Jan Alter
 
N

Nil

Flightless Bird
On 02 Jul 2010, Ken Blake <kblake@this.is.invalid.com> wrote in
alt.windows7.general:

>> You don't know what you're talking about. Outlook runs just fine on
>> Windows 7.

>
> That depends on the version of Outlook. Outlook 2003, 2007, and 2010
> work fine. Older versions may work, but with some problems.


Probably true. I've got 2003 going and it works a treat. I think I
recall hearing that some of the other Office 97 components didn't work
right in Vista, so Outlook could have issues too.

The blanket statement that Outlook doesn't work in Vista is just plain
wrong.
 
J

Jan Alter

Flightless Bird
"R. C. White" <rc@grandecom.net> wrote in message
news:3emdnQISxJOe1rPRnZ2dnUVZ_v6dnZ2d@posted.grandecom...
> Hi, Jan.
>
> In addition to the other tips...
>
>> I decided this morning to see about importring those mail folders to OE

> and found that I would only get an error "no messages can be found....".
>
> If you meant Importing from OE into WLMail (or WM in Vista), then you may
> have forgotten to give yourself to look into those folders. That's what
> happened to me when I first tried to migrate from WinXP to WM a few years
> ago. I finally learned that I had to either (a) give myself permission to
> see into the folders where the .dbx files ("folders", OE calls them) were
> lurking, or (b) move those dbx folders - including the most important
> Folders.dbx - into a folder where I already had that permission. Once I
> did that, WLM had no trouble seeing the old messages and importing them.
>
> Another trick that many users have used is to install WLMail onto the
> WinXP computer. (WLM runs in WinXP, Vista and Win7.) Then Import the
> messages in WLM on that computer. Later, depending on how you plan to use
> those messages, you might archive them in WLM format, or move them to your
> Win7 computer.
>
> Have you seen http://www.oehelp.com/ ? MVP Steve Cochran was my go to
> guru when I ran OE. He offers several utility programs for OE and WM -
> some free, some not.
>
> RC
> --
> R. C. White, CPA
> San Marcos, TX



Thanks RC.

I'll take some time to give permissions to the old dbx files and see if I
can then import them. I'll also investigate Steve Cochran's help page for
OE.

Jan Alter
bearpuf@verizon.net
 
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Ken Blake

Flightless Bird
On Fri, 02 Jul 2010 18:10:42 -0400, Nil
<rednoise@REMOVETHIScomcast.net> wrote:

> On 02 Jul 2010, Ken Blake <kblake@this.is.invalid.com> wrote in
> alt.windows7.general:
>
> >> You don't know what you're talking about. Outlook runs just fine on
> >> Windows 7.

> >
> > That depends on the version of Outlook. Outlook 2003, 2007, and 2010
> > work fine. Older versions may work, but with some problems.

>
> Probably true. I've got 2003 going and it works a treat.



Yes, it does. And I run Outlook 2010 on my Windows 7 machine and my
wife runs Outlook 2007 on hers. Both work with no problems at all.


> I think I
> recall hearing that some of the other Office 97 components didn't work
> right in Vista, so Outlook could have issues too.
>
> The blanket statement that Outlook doesn't work in Vista is just plain
> wrong.




Yes, it is. But the blanket statement that Outlook runs just fine on
Windows 7 is also just plain wrong.
 
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Gordon

Flightless Bird
"Jan Alter" <bearpuf@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:i0loa2$vcs$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>
> I'll take some time to give permissions to the old dbx files and see if
> I can then import them. I'll also investigate Steve Cochran's help page
> for OE.
>


You'll only be able to import them if the folder that contains all your dbx
files ALSO contains a file called Folders.dbx..
 
T

Trev

Flightless Bird
"Dr. Tinto" <rtinto@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:%8aXn.2459$Zp1.1991@newsfe15.iad...
> Does anyone here know how I can do this?
>


Copy the PST files from the old and replace the new ones with them
 
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LouB

Flightless Bird
Ken Blake wrote:
> On Fri, 02 Jul 2010 18:10:42 -0400, Nil
> <rednoise@REMOVETHIScomcast.net> wrote:
>
>> On 02 Jul 2010, Ken Blake <kblake@this.is.invalid.com> wrote in
>> alt.windows7.general:
>>
>>>> You don't know what you're talking about. Outlook runs just fine on
>>>> Windows 7.
>>> That depends on the version of Outlook. Outlook 2003, 2007, and 2010
>>> work fine. Older versions may work, but with some problems.

>> Probably true. I've got 2003 going and it works a treat.

>
>
> Yes, it does. And I run Outlook 2010 on my Windows 7 machine and my
> wife runs Outlook 2007 on hers. Both work with no problems at all.
>
>
>> I think I
>> recall hearing that some of the other Office 97 components didn't work
>> right in Vista, so Outlook could have issues too.
>>
>> The blanket statement that Outlook doesn't work in Vista is just plain
>> wrong.

>
>
>
> Yes, it is. But the blanket statement that Outlook runs just fine on
> Windows 7 is also just plain wrong.
>

Live and learn.

Now how does one get Outlook for Win 7 and is it free?

Lou
 
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