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How do I upgrade from XP Home edition to XP Professional

B

Bikini Browser

Flightless Bird
Hello folks...

Happy new year to everyone!

We are still a XP shop and XP will be our standard for a while longer and I
can't change that.

But now I need to upgrade four Dell notebook Computers from XP Home edition
to XP PROFESSIONAL. I read somewhere that I can buy licensing for Windows 7
and then call Microsoft to obtain Media and product keys for XP Professional
after I receive the Windows 7 media.

Is that true? In any case, I need to get XP Professional for 4 Dell
notebook computers. What is the best way to proceed and is this even
possible?

What phone number do I call at Microsoft to obtain this information perhaps
even obtaining part numbers and get a clearly written document that says I
can get this done?

Please advise....
--
Bikini Browser of San Juan Puerto Rico
Small Business Office Automation
Small Business Document Imaging Solutions
Networking Solutions using Linksys & Cisco Products
http://www.daleallen.com

(787) 637-9100
www.daleallen.com
 
D

Doum

Flightless Bird
"Bikini Browser" <delete.bikini.this.browser@gmail.com> écrivait
news:epaW#timKHA.5728@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl:

> Hello folks...
>
> Happy new year to everyone!
>
> We are still a XP shop and XP will be our standard for a while longer
> and I can't change that.
>
> But now I need to upgrade four Dell notebook Computers from XP Home
> edition to XP PROFESSIONAL. I read somewhere that I can buy licensing
> for Windows 7 and then call Microsoft to obtain Media and product keys
> for XP Professional after I receive the Windows 7 media.
>
> Is that true? In any case, I need to get XP Professional for 4 Dell
> notebook computers. What is the best way to proceed and is this even
> possible?
>
> What phone number do I call at Microsoft to obtain this information
> perhaps even obtaining part numbers and get a clearly written document
> that says I can get this done?
>
> Please advise....


http://www.amazon.com/Microsoft-Windows-Professional-UPGRADE-
SP2/dp/B00022PTT8/ref=dp_ob_title_sw

If this link is not in one line, copy and paste to the url line in your
browser instead of clicking on it in this post.

But why do you need Pro? There's not much difference between Home and Pro?
(just curious)

I think win7 with downgrade option only comes from OEM vendors, (anyone?)

HTH
 
J

John

Flightless Bird
http://oem.microsoft.com/script/contentpage.aspx?pageid=552836

"Bikini Browser" <delete.bikini.this.browser@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:epaW%23timKHA.5728@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Hello folks...
>
> Happy new year to everyone!
>
> We are still a XP shop and XP will be our standard for a while longer and
> I can't change that.
>
> But now I need to upgrade four Dell notebook Computers from XP Home
> edition to XP PROFESSIONAL. I read somewhere that I can buy licensing for
> Windows 7 and then call Microsoft to obtain Media and product keys for XP
> Professional after I receive the Windows 7 media.
>
> Is that true? In any case, I need to get XP Professional for 4 Dell
> notebook computers. What is the best way to proceed and is this even
> possible?
>
> What phone number do I call at Microsoft to obtain this information
> perhaps even obtaining part numbers and get a clearly written document
> that says I can get this done?
>
> Please advise....
> --
> Bikini Browser of San Juan Puerto Rico
> Small Business Office Automation
> Small Business Document Imaging Solutions
> Networking Solutions using Linksys & Cisco Products
> http://www.daleallen.com
>
> (787) 637-9100
> www.daleallen.com
>
 
P

PA Bear [MS MVP]

Flightless Bird
What are you smoking?

Bikini Browser wrote:
> Hello folks...
>
> Happy new year to everyone!
>
> We are still a XP shop and XP will be our standard for a while longer and
> I
> can't change that.
>
> But now I need to upgrade four Dell notebook Computers from XP Home
> edition
> to XP PROFESSIONAL. I read somewhere that I can buy licensing for Windows
> 7
> and then call Microsoft to obtain Media and product keys for XP
> Professional
> after I receive the Windows 7 media.
>
> Is that true? In any case, I need to get XP Professional for 4 Dell
> notebook computers. What is the best way to proceed and is this even
> possible?
>
> What phone number do I call at Microsoft to obtain this information
> perhaps
> even obtaining part numbers and get a clearly written document that says I
> can get this done?
>
> Please advise....
 
D

Daave

Flightless Bird
Bikini Browser wrote:
> Hello folks...
>
> Happy new year to everyone!
>
> We are still a XP shop and XP will be our standard for a while longer
> and I can't change that.
>
> But now I need to upgrade four Dell notebook Computers from XP Home
> edition to XP PROFESSIONAL.


There is very little difference between XP Home and XP Pro. Out of
curiosity, which specific Pro-only features do you believe you need? You
might be pleasantly surprised to learn that XP Home can do them, too!
 
A

ANONYMOUS

Flightless Bird
"PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:%23EZr5SjmKHA.2188@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> What are you smoking?
>


The same stuff as you are. I hear you have been drinking from my bottle as
well. Thief b a s tard.!
 
J

Jim Behning SBS MVP

Flightless Bird
On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 20:08:59 -0500, "Daave" <daave@example.com> wrote:

>Bikini Browser wrote:
>> Hello folks...
>>
>> Happy new year to everyone!
>>
>> We are still a XP shop and XP will be our standard for a while longer
>> and I can't change that.
>>
>> But now I need to upgrade four Dell notebook Computers from XP Home
>> edition to XP PROFESSIONAL.

>
>There is very little difference between XP Home and XP Pro. Out of
>curiosity, which specific Pro-only features do you believe you need? You
>might be pleasantly surprised to learn that XP Home can do them, too!
>

Domain join and group policy are two features.
See what SBS support is working on
http://blogs.technet.com/sbs/default.aspx
Check your SBS with the SBS Best Practices Analyzer
http://blogs.technet.com/sbs/archive/tags/BPA/default.aspx
 
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Daave

Flightless Bird
Jim Behning SBS MVP wrote:
> On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 20:08:59 -0500, "Daave" <daave@example.com> wrote:
>
>> Bikini Browser wrote:
>>> Hello folks...
>>>
>>> Happy new year to everyone!
>>>
>>> We are still a XP shop and XP will be our standard for a while
>>> longer and I can't change that.
>>>
>>> But now I need to upgrade four Dell notebook Computers from XP Home
>>> edition to XP PROFESSIONAL.

>>
>> There is very little difference between XP Home and XP Pro. Out of
>> curiosity, which specific Pro-only features do you believe you need?
>> You might be pleasantly surprised to learn that XP Home can do them,
>> too!
>>

> Domain join and group policy are two features.
> See what SBS support is working on
> http://blogs.technet.com/sbs/default.aspx
> Check your SBS with the SBS Best Practices Analyzer
> http://blogs.technet.com/sbs/archive/tags/BPA/default.aspx


I realize you are trying to be helpful, but the purpose of my question
was not to learn what I already know. :)
 
B

Bikini Browser

Flightless Bird
Hello Mr. Browser,



Thank you for contacting Microsoft Sales Information today.



Per our discussion, I've attached the links and information that you
requested below.



"Customers may have the option to acquire Software Assurance for certain
licenses purchased from the Retail channel (full packaged product) or from
an Original Equipment Manufacturer (OEM). Eligibility varies by program,
product pool and the license source (see below). In all cases, only
licenses for the latest version of a product are eligible, and the Software
Assurance must be acquired "within 90 days" from the date the licenses are
acquired. Under Open Value, this option applies only to non Company-wide
products. Under Enterprise Agreements, it applies only to Additional
Products "within 90 days". "



This can be found in the January 2010 Product List which can be downloaded
here:

http://www.microsoftvolumelicensing.com/DocumentSearch.aspx?Mode=3&DocumentTypeId=3



"Customers can acquire the latest version in order to use an older version
with downgrade rights, but are eligible for support for that product only if
it is listed as a supported product on the Microsoft product lifecycle
Website. The current Microsoft product lifecycle Website is located at:

http://support.microsoft.com/common/international.aspx?rdpath=dm;en-us;lifecycle"In order for your customer to upgrade from Windows XP Home to Windows XPProfessional, they would have to purchase Windows 7 Professional upgradethrough retail and then purchase software assurance through volumelicensing. Here is the estimated cost and part number through an OpenBusiness volume license agreement: FQC-02368 WinPro SNGL SA OLP NL Software Assurance 109.00 At that point they if they need media they can call MicrosoftLicensing Fulfillment at: 800-336-0098 M-F 6 AM-4 PM PSTI hope this is helpful,CailaMicrosoft Sales Information AgentWe want our customers to be "Very Satisfied." We welcome your comments andsuggestions about your call experience and how we can improve the support weprovide to you. Please e-mail any comments or suggestions to my managementteam at msiusmgr@microsoft.com----------------------------------Note: The Microsoft Sales Information e-mail address is an unmonitoredalias. Therefore, we are unable to respond to your inquiry through e-mail.If you have further questions about this information please contact us at800-426-9400.----------------------------------THIS DOCUMENT IS PROVIDED FOR INFORMATIONAL PURPOSES ONLY.The information contained in this document represents the current view ofMicrosoft Corporation on the issues discussed as of the date of publication.Because Microsoft must respond to change in market conditions, it should notbe interpreted to be a commitment on the part of Microsoft and Microsoftcannot guarantee the accuracy of any information presented after the date ofpublication.INFORMATION PROVIDED IN THIS DOCUMENT IS PROVIDED 'AS IS' WITHOUT WARRANTYOF ANY KIND, EITHER EXPRESS OR IMPLIED, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO THEIMPLIED WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY, FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE ANDFREEDOM FROM INFRINGEMENT.The user assumes the entire risk as to the accuracy and the use of thisdocument. This document may be copied and distributed subject to thefollowing conditions:1. All text must be copied without modification and all pages must beincluded.2. All copies must contain Microsoft's copyright notice and any othernotices provided therein.3. This document may not be distributed for profit."Daave" <daave@example.com> wrote in messagenews:%2301h7tjmKHA.1648@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...> Jim Behning SBS MVP wrote:>> On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 20:08:59 -0500, "Daave" <daave@example.com> wrote:>>>>> Bikini Browser wrote:>>>> Hello folks...>>>>>>>> Happy new year to everyone!>>>>>>>> We are still a XP shop and XP will be our standard for a while>>>> longer and I can't change that.>>>>>>>> But now I need to upgrade four Dell notebook Computers from XP Home>>>> edition to XP PROFESSIONAL.>>>>>> There is very little difference between XP Home and XP Pro. Out of>>> curiosity, which specific Pro-only features do you believe you need?>>> You might be pleasantly surprised to learn that XP Home can do them,>>> too!>>>>> Domain join and group policy are two features.>> See what SBS support is working on>> http://blogs.technet.com/sbs/default.aspx>> Check your SBS with the SBS Best Practices Analyzer>> http://blogs.technet.com/sbs/archive/tags/BPA/default.aspx>> I realize you are trying to be helpful, but the purpose of my question wasnot to learn what I already know. :)>Domain join and group policy are two features I need. MSTSC remote controlis another feature I need to enable me to administrate the computerremotely.Bikini Browser
 
B

Bikini Browser

Flightless Bird
Domain join and group policy are two features I need.

Bikini Browser


"Jim Behning SBS MVP" <jimbehning@doesthisblockpork.mindspring.com> wrote in
message news:lqafl5praha1jbpq26heitmpf5l1h6qio2@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 20:08:59 -0500, "Daave" <daave@example.com> wrote:
>
>>Bikini Browser wrote:
>>> Hello folks...
>>>
>>> Happy new year to everyone!
>>>
>>> We are still a XP shop and XP will be our standard for a while longer
>>> and I can't change that.
>>>
>>> But now I need to upgrade four Dell notebook Computers from XP Home
>>> edition to XP PROFESSIONAL.

>>
>>There is very little difference between XP Home and XP Pro. Out of
>>curiosity, which specific Pro-only features do you believe you need? You
>>might be pleasantly surprised to learn that XP Home can do them, too!
>>

> Domain join and group policy are two features.
> See what SBS support is working on
> http://blogs.technet.com/sbs/default.aspx
> Check your SBS with the SBS Best Practices Analyzer
> http://blogs.technet.com/sbs/archive/tags/BPA/default.aspx
 
S

SteveB

Flightless Bird
Not a very useful response either Daave. Bikini says he does require being
able to join a domain and use group policies which of course XP Home can't
do..

"Daave" <daave@example.com> wrote in message
news:%2301h7tjmKHA.1648@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Jim Behning SBS MVP wrote:
>> On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 20:08:59 -0500, "Daave" <daave@example.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Bikini Browser wrote:
>>>> Hello folks...
>>>>
>>>> Happy new year to everyone!
>>>>
>>>> We are still a XP shop and XP will be our standard for a while
>>>> longer and I can't change that.
>>>>
>>>> But now I need to upgrade four Dell notebook Computers from XP Home
>>>> edition to XP PROFESSIONAL.
>>>
>>> There is very little difference between XP Home and XP Pro. Out of
>>> curiosity, which specific Pro-only features do you believe you need?
>>> You might be pleasantly surprised to learn that XP Home can do them,
>>> too!
>>>

>> Domain join and group policy are two features.
>> See what SBS support is working on
>> http://blogs.technet.com/sbs/default.aspx
>> Check your SBS with the SBS Best Practices Analyzer
>> http://blogs.technet.com/sbs/archive/tags/BPA/default.aspx

>
> I realize you are trying to be helpful, but the purpose of my question was
> not to learn what I already know. :)
>
 
D

Daave

Flightless Bird
Bikini did not say that in his/her first post, Steve. Also note that I
was repsonding to Jim, not Bikini. Pay attention!

SteveB wrote:
> Not a very useful response either Daave. Bikini says he does require
> being able to join a domain and use group policies which of course XP
> Home can't do..
>
> "Daave" <daave@example.com> wrote in message
> news:%2301h7tjmKHA.1648@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> Jim Behning SBS MVP wrote:
>>> On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 20:08:59 -0500, "Daave" <daave@example.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> Bikini Browser wrote:
>>>>> Hello folks...
>>>>>
>>>>> Happy new year to everyone!
>>>>>
>>>>> We are still a XP shop and XP will be our standard for a while
>>>>> longer and I can't change that.
>>>>>
>>>>> But now I need to upgrade four Dell notebook Computers from XP
>>>>> Home edition to XP PROFESSIONAL.
>>>>
>>>> There is very little difference between XP Home and XP Pro. Out of
>>>> curiosity, which specific Pro-only features do you believe you
>>>> need? You might be pleasantly surprised to learn that XP Home can
>>>> do them, too!
>>>>
>>> Domain join and group policy are two features.
>>> See what SBS support is working on
>>> http://blogs.technet.com/sbs/default.aspx
>>> Check your SBS with the SBS Best Practices Analyzer
>>> http://blogs.technet.com/sbs/archive/tags/BPA/default.aspx

>>
>> I realize you are trying to be helpful, but the purpose of my
>> question was not to learn what I already know. :)
 
D

Daave

Flightless Bird
<snipped and rearranged to show logical flow>

Bikini Browser wrote:
>>> Bikini Browser wrote:

>> On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 20:08:59 -0500, "Daave" <daave@example.com>
>> wrote:


>>>> Hello folks...
>>>>
>>>> Happy new year to everyone!
>>>>
>>>> We are still a XP shop and XP will be our standard for a while
>>>> longer and I can't change that.
>>>>
>>>> But now I need to upgrade four Dell notebook Computers from XP Home
>>>> edition to XP PROFESSIONAL.


>>> There is very little difference between XP Home and XP Pro. Out of
>>> curiosity, which specific Pro-only features do you believe you
>>> need? You might be pleasantly surprised to learn that XP Home can
>>> do them, too!


> Domain join and group policy are two features I need.


Fair enough.

If all you need are four licenses to run XP Pro, you can purchase them
along with the installation CDs:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...ting_system_windows_xp-_-32-116-515-_-Product

There is no need to contact Microsoft.
 
R

Russ SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP]

Flightless Bird
Daave,
This was Cross Posted to a SBS Newsgroup which Requires XP Pro, not HOME to
Join.
And you ask others to pay attention?

Russ

--
Russell Grover - SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP]
Microsoft Gold Certified Partner
Microsoft Certified Small Business Specialist
World Wide 24hr SBS Remote Support - http://www.SBITS.Biz
Microsoft Online Services - http://www.microsoft-online-services.com


"Daave" <daave@example.com> wrote in message
news:#fk8oOkmKHA.5612@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Bikini did not say that in his/her first post, Steve. Also note that I was
> repsonding to Jim, not Bikini. Pay attention!
>
> SteveB wrote:
>> Not a very useful response either Daave. Bikini says he does require
>> being able to join a domain and use group policies which of course XP
>> Home can't do..
>>
>> "Daave" <daave@example.com> wrote in message
>> news:%2301h7tjmKHA.1648@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> Jim Behning SBS MVP wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 20:08:59 -0500, "Daave" <daave@example.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Bikini Browser wrote:
>>>>>> Hello folks...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Happy new year to everyone!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We are still a XP shop and XP will be our standard for a while
>>>>>> longer and I can't change that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But now I need to upgrade four Dell notebook Computers from XP
>>>>>> Home edition to XP PROFESSIONAL.
>>>>>
>>>>> There is very little difference between XP Home and XP Pro. Out of
>>>>> curiosity, which specific Pro-only features do you believe you
>>>>> need? You might be pleasantly surprised to learn that XP Home can
>>>>> do them, too!
>>>>>
>>>> Domain join and group policy are two features.
>>>> See what SBS support is working on
>>>> http://blogs.technet.com/sbs/default.aspx
>>>> Check your SBS with the SBS Best Practices Analyzer
>>>> http://blogs.technet.com/sbs/archive/tags/BPA/default.aspx
>>>
>>> I realize you are trying to be helpful, but the purpose of my
>>> question was not to learn what I already know. :)

>
>
 
A

ANONYMOUS

Flightless Bird
Excuse me Russ,

Are MVPs so pedantic to worry about petty matters? Don't you guys have
anything better to do than worry about where it was posted to. I don't look
at NG list in To row (nor do I expect anybody to do so) because I don't need
to. I expect the OP to post it in the right group. If he didn't then tough
luck.

Get a life boy.




"Russ SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP]" <russ@REMOVETHIS.sbits.biz> wrote in message
news:-O5KTYYkmKHA.5840@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Daave,
> This was Cross Posted to a SBS Newsgroup which Requires XP Pro, not HOME
> to Join.
> And you ask others to pay attention?
>
> Russ
>
> --
> Russell Grover - SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP]
> Microsoft Gold Certified Partner
> Microsoft Certified Small Business Specialist
> World Wide 24hr SBS Remote Support - http://www.SBITS.Biz
> Microsoft Online Services - http://www.microsoft-online-services.com
>
>
> "Daave" <daave@example.com> wrote in message
> news:#fk8oOkmKHA.5612@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> Bikini did not say that in his/her first post, Steve. Also note that I
>> was repsonding to Jim, not Bikini. Pay attention!
>>
>> SteveB wrote:
>>> Not a very useful response either Daave. Bikini says he does require
>>> being able to join a domain and use group policies which of course XP
>>> Home can't do..
>>>
>>> "Daave" <daave@example.com> wrote in message
>>> news:%2301h7tjmKHA.1648@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>> Jim Behning SBS MVP wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 20:08:59 -0500, "Daave" <daave@example.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Bikini Browser wrote:
>>>>>>> Hello folks...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Happy new year to everyone!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We are still a XP shop and XP will be our standard for a while
>>>>>>> longer and I can't change that.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But now I need to upgrade four Dell notebook Computers from XP
>>>>>>> Home edition to XP PROFESSIONAL.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There is very little difference between XP Home and XP Pro. Out of
>>>>>> curiosity, which specific Pro-only features do you believe you
>>>>>> need? You might be pleasantly surprised to learn that XP Home can
>>>>>> do them, too!
>>>>>>
>>>>> Domain join and group policy are two features.
>>>>> See what SBS support is working on
>>>>> http://blogs.technet.com/sbs/default.aspx
>>>>> Check your SBS with the SBS Best Practices Analyzer
>>>>> http://blogs.technet.com/sbs/archive/tags/BPA/default.aspx
>>>>
>>>> I realize you are trying to be helpful, but the purpose of my
>>>> question was not to learn what I already know. :)

>>
>>
 
B

Bill Sanderson

Flightless Bird
Yep - see page 33.

"Bikini Browser" <delete.bikini.this.browser@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:uTIs5xjmKHA.5728@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Hello Mr. Browser,
>
>
>
> Thank you for contacting Microsoft Sales Information today.
>
>
>
> Per our discussion, I've attached the links and information that you
> requested below.
>
>
>
> "Customers may have the option to acquire Software Assurance for certain
> licenses purchased from the Retail channel (full packaged product) or from
> an Original Equipment Manufacturer (OEM). Eligibility varies by program,
> product pool and the license source (see below). In all cases, only
> licenses for the latest version of a product are eligible, and the
> Software Assurance must be acquired "within 90 days" from the date the
> licenses are acquired. Under Open Value, this option applies only to non
> Company-wide products. Under Enterprise Agreements, it applies only to
> Additional Products "within 90 days". "
>
>
>
> This can be found in the January 2010 Product List which can be downloaded
> here:
>
> http://www.microsoftvolumelicensing.com/DocumentSearch.aspx?Mode=3&DocumentTypeId=3
>
>
>
> "Customers can acquire the latest version in order to use an older version
> with downgrade rights, but are eligible for support for that product only
> if it is listed as a supported product on the Microsoft product lifecycle
> Website. The current Microsoft product lifecycle Website is located at:
>
> http://support.microsoft.com/common/international.aspx?rdpath=dm;en-us;lifecycle"In
> order for your customer to upgrade from Windows XP Home to Windows
> XPProfessional, they would have to purchase Windows 7 Professional
> upgradethrough retail and then purchase software assurance through
> volumelicensing. Here is the estimated cost and part number through an
> OpenBusiness volume license agreement: FQC-02368 WinPro SNGL SA
> OLP NL Software Assurance 109.00 At that point they
> if they need media they can call MicrosoftLicensing Fulfillment at:
> 800-336-0098 M-F 6 AM-4 PM PSTI hope this is helpful,CailaMicrosoft Sales
> Information AgentWe want our customers to be "Very Satisfied." We welcome
> your comments andsuggestions about your call experience and how we can
> improve the support weprovide to you. Please e-mail any comments or
> suggestions to my managementteam at
> msiusmgr@microsoft.com----------------------------------Note: The
> Microsoft Sales Information e-mail address is an unmonitoredalias.
> Therefore, we are unable to respond to your inquiry through e-mail.If you
> have further questions about this information please contact us
> at800-426-9400.----------------------------------THIS DOCUMENT IS PROVIDED
> FOR INFORMATIONAL PURPOSES ONLY.The information contained in this document
> represents the current view ofMicrosoft Corporation on the issues
> discussed as of the date of publication.Because Microsoft must respond to
> change in market conditions, it should notbe interpreted to be a
> commitment on the part of Microsoft and Microsoftcannot guarantee the
> accuracy of any information presented after the date
> ofpublication.INFORMATION PROVIDED IN THIS DOCUMENT IS PROVIDED 'AS IS'
> WITHOUT WARRANTYOF ANY KIND, EITHER EXPRESS OR IMPLIED, INCLUDING BUT NOT
> LIMITED TO THEIMPLIED WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY, FITNESS FOR A
> PARTICULAR PURPOSE ANDFREEDOM FROM INFRINGEMENT.The user assumes the
> entire risk as to the accuracy and the use of thisdocument. This document
> may be copied and distributed subject to thefollowing conditions:1. All
> text must be copied without modification and all pages must beincluded.2.
> All copies must contain Microsoft's copyright notice and any othernotices
> provided therein.3. This document may not be distributed for
> profit."Daave" <daave@example.com> wrote in
> messagenews:%2301h7tjmKHA.1648@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...> Jim Behning SBS
> MVP wrote:>> On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 20:08:59 -0500, "Daave"
> <daave@example.com> wrote:>>>>> Bikini Browser wrote:>>>> Hello
> folks...>>>>>>>> Happy new year to everyone!>>>>>>>> We are still a XP
> shop and XP will be our standard for a while>>>> longer and I can't change
> that.>>>>>>>> But now I need to upgrade four Dell notebook Computers from
> XP Home>>>> edition to XP PROFESSIONAL.>>>>>> There is very little
> difference between XP Home and XP Pro. Out of>>> curiosity, which specific
> Pro-only features do you believe you need?>>> You might be pleasantly
> surprised to learn that XP Home can do them,>>> too!>>>>> Domain join and
> group policy are two features.>> See what SBS support is working on>>
> http://blogs.technet.com/sbs/default.aspx>> Check your SBS with the SBS
> Best Practices Analyzer>>
> http://blogs.technet.com/sbs/archive/tags/BPA/default.aspx>> I realize you
> are trying to be helpful, but the purpose of my question wasnot to learn
> what I already know. :)>Domain join and group policy are two features I
> need. MSTSC remote controlis another feature I need to enable me to
> administrate the computerremotely.Bikini Browser
>
 
R

Russ SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP]

Flightless Bird
Sorry I won't excuse you....

Daave
Complained about people not paying attention
and I pointed out that he was the one not paying attention.

If you don't like posts from MVP's Please feel free not to read any...
Crying won't get you anywhere!

Thanks
Russ

--
Russell Grover - SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP]
Microsoft Gold Certified Partner
Microsoft Certified Small Business Specialist
World Wide 24hr SBS Remote Support - http://www.SBITS.Biz
Microsoft Online Services - http://www.microsoft-online-services.com


"ANONYMOUS" <ANONYMOUS@EXAMPLE.COM> wrote in message
news:#usyifkmKHA.3840@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Excuse me Russ,
>
> Are MVPs so pedantic to worry about petty matters? Don't you guys have
> anything better to do than worry about where it was posted to. I don't
> look at NG list in To row (nor do I expect anybody to do so) because I
> don't need to. I expect the OP to post it in the right group. If he
> didn't then tough luck.
>
> Get a life boy.
>
>
>
>
> "Russ SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP]" <russ@REMOVETHIS.sbits.biz> wrote in message
> news:-O5KTYYkmKHA.5840@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> Daave,
>> This was Cross Posted to a SBS Newsgroup which Requires XP Pro, not HOME
>> to Join.
>> And you ask others to pay attention?
>>
>> Russ
>>
>> --
>> Russell Grover - SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP]
>> Microsoft Gold Certified Partner
>> Microsoft Certified Small Business Specialist
>> World Wide 24hr SBS Remote Support - http://www.SBITS.Biz
>> Microsoft Online Services - http://www.microsoft-online-services.com
>>
>>
>> "Daave" <daave@example.com> wrote in message
>> news:#fk8oOkmKHA.5612@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> Bikini did not say that in his/her first post, Steve. Also note that I
>>> was repsonding to Jim, not Bikini. Pay attention!
>>>
>>> SteveB wrote:
>>>> Not a very useful response either Daave. Bikini says he does require
>>>> being able to join a domain and use group policies which of course XP
>>>> Home can't do..
>>>>
>>>> "Daave" <daave@example.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:%2301h7tjmKHA.1648@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Jim Behning SBS MVP wrote:
>>>>>> On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 20:08:59 -0500, "Daave" <daave@example.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> Bikini Browser wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hello folks...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Happy new year to everyone!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We are still a XP shop and XP will be our standard for a while
>>>>>>>> longer and I can't change that.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> But now I need to upgrade four Dell notebook Computers from XP
>>>>>>>> Home edition to XP PROFESSIONAL.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There is very little difference between XP Home and XP Pro. Out of
>>>>>>> curiosity, which specific Pro-only features do you believe you
>>>>>>> need? You might be pleasantly surprised to learn that XP Home can
>>>>>>> do them, too!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Domain join and group policy are two features.
>>>>>> See what SBS support is working on
>>>>>> http://blogs.technet.com/sbs/default.aspx
>>>>>> Check your SBS with the SBS Best Practices Analyzer
>>>>>> http://blogs.technet.com/sbs/archive/tags/BPA/default.aspx
>>>>>
>>>>> I realize you are trying to be helpful, but the purpose of my
>>>>> question was not to learn what I already know. :)
>>>
>>>

>
>
 
D

Daave

Flightless Bird
Yes, I am asking that others pay attention. And if you read it again,
you would be able to see what happened.

One thing that I did miss was the crosspost. Had I seen that, I wouldn't
have asked the question in the first place. But that doesn't negate the
fact that SteveB confused OP with Jim Behning or didn't get the
chronology correct. Had he been paying attention, he wouldn't have been
confused.

Then again, I will take responsibility for missing the crosspost; I was
reading Bikini's post in the help_and_support group and although he/she
hadn't mentioned the needed features until 45 minutes *after* I asked,
had I noticed the cross-post, I wouldn't have asked that particular
question to begin with.

You need to understand that quite a few people who post to that
particular newgroup do not need XP Pro. Many of us ask what the specific
needs of the poster are in order that we might be able save him or her a
little bit of money. For instance, some people don't realize that they
can easily use XP Home to access domain shares (even if they can't
*join* the domain as XP Pro could).



Russ SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP] wrote:
> Daave,
> This was Cross Posted to a SBS Newsgroup which Requires XP Pro, not
> HOME to Join.
> And you ask others to pay attention?
>
> Russ
>
>
> "Daave" <daave@example.com> wrote in message
> news:#fk8oOkmKHA.5612@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> Bikini did not say that in his/her first post, Steve. Also note that
>> I was repsonding to Jim, not Bikini. Pay attention!
>>
>> SteveB wrote:
>>> Not a very useful response either Daave. Bikini says he does require
>>> being able to join a domain and use group policies which of course
>>> XP Home can't do..
>>>
>>> "Daave" <daave@example.com> wrote in message
>>> news:%2301h7tjmKHA.1648@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>> Jim Behning SBS MVP wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 20:08:59 -0500, "Daave" <daave@example.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Bikini Browser wrote:
>>>>>>> Hello folks...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Happy new year to everyone!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We are still a XP shop and XP will be our standard for a while
>>>>>>> longer and I can't change that.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But now I need to upgrade four Dell notebook Computers from XP
>>>>>>> Home edition to XP PROFESSIONAL.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There is very little difference between XP Home and XP Pro. Out
>>>>>> of curiosity, which specific Pro-only features do you believe you
>>>>>> need? You might be pleasantly surprised to learn that XP Home can
>>>>>> do them, too!
>>>>>>
>>>>> Domain join and group policy are two features.
>>>>> See what SBS support is working on
>>>>> http://blogs.technet.com/sbs/default.aspx
>>>>> Check your SBS with the SBS Best Practices Analyzer
>>>>> http://blogs.technet.com/sbs/archive/tags/BPA/default.aspx
>>>>
>>>> I realize you are trying to be helpful, but the purpose of my
>>>> question was not to learn what I already know. :)
 
J

Joe

Flightless Bird
ANONYMOUS wrote:
> Excuse me Russ,
>
> Are MVPs so pedantic to worry about petty matters? Don't you guys have
> anything better to do than worry about where it was posted to. I don't look
> at NG list in To row (nor do I expect anybody to do so) because I don't need
> to. I expect the OP to post it in the right group. If he didn't then tough
> luck.
>
> Get a life boy.
>
>
>
>


One might reasonably expect XP users to know something about XP
upgrades, which is not in itself really an SBS issue, but one of the SBS
newsgroup readers might well have relevant recent experience, and we all
use XP Pro as a matter of course. Also, we're polite. So nobody is being
expected to look at the posting list, just to answer the question as
asked, or move on.

I'm well aware of the reasoning behind asking why a particular activity
is being proposed, and in many cases it's a good idea to do so. *In*
*addition* to actually answering the question, not instead of it.

And no, I'm not an MVP, nor an M-anything.

--
Joe
 
U

Unknown

Flightless Bird
When are you going to quit making an ass of yourself?
"ANONYMOUS" <ANONYMOUS@EXAMPLE.COM> wrote in message
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>
> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:%23EZr5SjmKHA.2188@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> What are you smoking?
>>

>
> The same stuff as you are. I hear you have been drinking from my bottle
> as well. Thief b a s tard.!
>
>
 
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