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Hibernation - why the slowdown?

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williamtell

Flightless Bird
What is the point? In other words, strickly directed to you, No.

"Unknown" <unknown@unknown.kom> wrote in message
news:uncU3%23m3KHA.4964@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Please explain to this group your comments 'double memory use' and
> 'hibernation is a memory hog'.
> "williamtell" <wt@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
> news:eDXyh3m3KHA.3580@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> Exactily right, didn't know you were so sensitave to having your strings
>> plucked !
>>
>> "Unknown" <unknown@unknown.kom> wrote in message
>> news:eBktarm3KHA.3580@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> That's true--so what?. The size of the file on the disk has to be equal
>>> to the memory size.
>>> "williamtell" <wt@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
>>> news:%23%2300Ijm3KHA.4336@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>> BTW
>>>> A file, "hiberfil.sys" is used to store the contents of RAM when the
>>>> computer hibernates, and is always the same size as the total RAM.
>>>>
>>>> This is what I speak of.
>>>>
>>>> "williamtell" <wt@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
>>>> news:emfNiam3KHA.3844@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>> It was meant to unconfuse you!
>>>>>
>>>>> "Unknown" <unknown@unknown.kom> wrote in message
>>>>> news:ufSIAul3KHA.5820@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> What part of that write-up are you confused about?
>>>>>> "williamtell" <wt@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:uiW1Vml3KHA.4332@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/mobility/getstarted/hibernate.mspx
>>>>>>> Read
>>>>>>> "Unknown" <unknown@unknown.kom> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:eKUhWel3KHA.4540@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>> It does NOT make an image of your drive. It writes all of memory to
>>>>>>>> disk. When coming out of hibernation memory
>>>>>>>> is restored to what it was from the disk. What do you mean 'doubled
>>>>>>>> your memory use'???
>>>>>>>> "williamtell" <wt@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:%23zujv7k3KHA.3844@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>> Hibernation makes a mirror image of your drive, Google it and
>>>>>>>>> read.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Unknown" <unknown@unknown.kom> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:ekSglMk3KHA.4336@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>> What do you mean by 'doubled your memory use'? I use hibernate
>>>>>>>>>> almost always and never experienced any slowdowns.
>>>>>>>>>> I run disk cleanup and defrag once a week.
>>>>>>>>>> "williamtell" <wt@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>> news:-OiSyEVj3KHA.5820@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>> Not to mention, you have doubled your memory use with each
>>>>>>>>>>> hibernation.
>>>>>>>>>>> I personally never use hibernation, it is disabled on my
>>>>>>>>>>> machines. My personal preference.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>WT<
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "Rey Santos" <ReySantos@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
>>>>>>>>>>> message
>>>>>>>>>>> news:66C327A4-453B-42CB-A4BE-D7C36A73BF8F@microsoft.com...
>>>>>>>>>>>>A downside of hibernation is that over time the system does tend
>>>>>>>>>>>>to slow down
>>>>>>>>>>>> because a full XP housekeeping regimen is missed when using
>>>>>>>>>>>> hibernate rather
>>>>>>>>>>>> than shutdown.
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.theeldergeek.com/HT0_007.htm
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> Rey
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Charlie+" wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I notice considerable slowdown after even a single
>>>>>>>>>>>>> hibernation -
>>>>>>>>>>>>> this is XPPro SP3, lots of free disk space and plenty RAM, not
>>>>>>>>>>>>> overclocked
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Intel quad.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The slowdown becomes progressively worse with every
>>>>>>>>>>>>> hibernation on top of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> hibernation. It wouldnt be so bad if the slowdown was
>>>>>>>>>>>>> noticable after say
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 10 hibernations then a full reboot to correct.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I dont understand the slowdown mechanism - every program is
>>>>>>>>>>>>> affected it
>>>>>>>>>>>>> seems and even scrollbars etc, - is there is anything that
>>>>>>>>>>>>> can be done to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> mitigate the slowdown? Hibernation would be very useful if
>>>>>>>>>>>>> it could be
>>>>>>>>>>>>> relied on.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
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>>>
>>>

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U

Unknown

Flightless Bird
To not show your ignorance is the point..
"williamtell" <wt@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
news:%23lt%23wEn3KHA.1016@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> What is the point? In other words, strickly directed to you, No.
>
> "Unknown" <unknown@unknown.kom> wrote in message
> news:uncU3%23m3KHA.4964@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> Please explain to this group your comments 'double memory use' and
>> 'hibernation is a memory hog'.
>> "williamtell" <wt@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:eDXyh3m3KHA.3580@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> Exactily right, didn't know you were so sensitave to having your strings
>>> plucked !
>>>
>>> "Unknown" <unknown@unknown.kom> wrote in message
>>> news:eBktarm3KHA.3580@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>> That's true--so what?. The size of the file on the disk has to be equal
>>>> to the memory size.
>>>> "williamtell" <wt@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
>>>> news:%23%2300Ijm3KHA.4336@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>> BTW
>>>>> A file, "hiberfil.sys" is used to store the contents of RAM when the
>>>>> computer hibernates, and is always the same size as the total RAM.
>>>>>
>>>>> This is what I speak of.
>>>>>
>>>>> "williamtell" <wt@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
>>>>> news:emfNiam3KHA.3844@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> It was meant to unconfuse you!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Unknown" <unknown@unknown.kom> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:ufSIAul3KHA.5820@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>> What part of that write-up are you confused about?
>>>>>>> "williamtell" <wt@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:uiW1Vml3KHA.4332@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/mobility/getstarted/hibernate.mspx
>>>>>>>> Read
>>>>>>>> "Unknown" <unknown@unknown.kom> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:eKUhWel3KHA.4540@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>> It does NOT make an image of your drive. It writes all of memory
>>>>>>>>> to disk. When coming out of hibernation memory
>>>>>>>>> is restored to what it was from the disk. What do you mean
>>>>>>>>> 'doubled your memory use'???
>>>>>>>>> "williamtell" <wt@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:%23zujv7k3KHA.3844@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>> Hibernation makes a mirror image of your drive, Google it and
>>>>>>>>>> read.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "Unknown" <unknown@unknown.kom> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>> news:ekSglMk3KHA.4336@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>> What do you mean by 'doubled your memory use'? I use hibernate
>>>>>>>>>>> almost always and never experienced any slowdowns.
>>>>>>>>>>> I run disk cleanup and defrag once a week.
>>>>>>>>>>> "williamtell" <wt@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>> news:-OiSyEVj3KHA.5820@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>> Not to mention, you have doubled your memory use with each
>>>>>>>>>>>> hibernation.
>>>>>>>>>>>> I personally never use hibernation, it is disabled on my
>>>>>>>>>>>> machines. My personal preference.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>WT<
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Rey Santos" <ReySantos@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
>>>>>>>>>>>> message
>>>>>>>>>>>> news:66C327A4-453B-42CB-A4BE-D7C36A73BF8F@microsoft.com...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>A downside of hibernation is that over time the system does
>>>>>>>>>>>>>tend to slow down
>>>>>>>>>>>>> because a full XP housekeeping regimen is missed when using
>>>>>>>>>>>>> hibernate rather
>>>>>>>>>>>>> than shutdown.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.theeldergeek.com/HT0_007.htm
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rey
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Charlie+" wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I notice considerable slowdown after even a single
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hibernation -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this is XPPro SP3, lots of free disk space and plenty RAM,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not overclocked
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Intel quad.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The slowdown becomes progressively worse with every
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hibernation on top of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hibernation. It wouldnt be so bad if the slowdown was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> noticable after say
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 10 hibernations then a full reboot to correct.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I dont understand the slowdown mechanism - every program is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> affected it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seems and even scrollbars etc, - is there is anything that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can be done to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mitigate the slowdown? Hibernation would be very useful if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it could be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> relied on.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>

>>
>>

>
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W

williamtell

Flightless Bird
To get yourself a life is everything!

"Unknown" <unknown@unknown.kom> wrote in message
news:uvR3RLn3KHA.5880@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> To not show your ignorance is the point..
> "williamtell" <wt@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
> news:%23lt%23wEn3KHA.1016@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> What is the point? In other words, strickly directed to you, No.
>>
>> "Unknown" <unknown@unknown.kom> wrote in message
>> news:uncU3%23m3KHA.4964@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> Please explain to this group your comments 'double memory use' and
>>> 'hibernation is a memory hog'.
>>> "williamtell" <wt@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
>>> news:eDXyh3m3KHA.3580@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>> Exactily right, didn't know you were so sensitave to having your
>>>> strings plucked !
>>>>
>>>> "Unknown" <unknown@unknown.kom> wrote in message
>>>> news:eBktarm3KHA.3580@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>> That's true--so what?. The size of the file on the disk has to be
>>>>> equal to the memory size.
>>>>> "williamtell" <wt@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
>>>>> news:%23%2300Ijm3KHA.4336@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> BTW
>>>>>> A file, "hiberfil.sys" is used to store the contents of RAM when the
>>>>>> computer hibernates, and is always the same size as the total RAM.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is what I speak of.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "williamtell" <wt@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:emfNiam3KHA.3844@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>> It was meant to unconfuse you!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Unknown" <unknown@unknown.kom> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:ufSIAul3KHA.5820@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>> What part of that write-up are you confused about?
>>>>>>>> "williamtell" <wt@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:uiW1Vml3KHA.4332@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/mobility/getstarted/hibernate.mspx
>>>>>>>>> Read
>>>>>>>>> "Unknown" <unknown@unknown.kom> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:eKUhWel3KHA.4540@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>> It does NOT make an image of your drive. It writes all of memory
>>>>>>>>>> to disk. When coming out of hibernation memory
>>>>>>>>>> is restored to what it was from the disk. What do you mean
>>>>>>>>>> 'doubled your memory use'???
>>>>>>>>>> "williamtell" <wt@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>> news:%23zujv7k3KHA.3844@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>> Hibernation makes a mirror image of your drive, Google it and
>>>>>>>>>>> read.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "Unknown" <unknown@unknown.kom> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>> news:ekSglMk3KHA.4336@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>> What do you mean by 'doubled your memory use'? I use hibernate
>>>>>>>>>>>> almost always and never experienced any slowdowns.
>>>>>>>>>>>> I run disk cleanup and defrag once a week.
>>>>>>>>>>>> "williamtell" <wt@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>> news:-OiSyEVj3KHA.5820@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not to mention, you have doubled your memory use with each
>>>>>>>>>>>>> hibernation.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I personally never use hibernation, it is disabled on my
>>>>>>>>>>>>> machines. My personal preference.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>WT<
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Rey Santos" <ReySantos@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
>>>>>>>>>>>>> message
>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:66C327A4-453B-42CB-A4BE-D7C36A73BF8F@microsoft.com...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>A downside of hibernation is that over time the system does
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>tend to slow down
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because a full XP housekeeping regimen is missed when using
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hibernate rather
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than shutdown.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.theeldergeek.com/HT0_007.htm
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rey
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Charlie+" wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I notice considerable slowdown after even a single
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hibernation -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this is XPPro SP3, lots of free disk space and plenty RAM,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not overclocked
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Intel quad.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The slowdown becomes progressively worse with every
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hibernation on top of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hibernation. It wouldnt be so bad if the slowdown was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> noticable after say
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 10 hibernations then a full reboot to correct.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I dont understand the slowdown mechanism - every program is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> affected it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seems and even scrollbars etc, - is there is anything that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can be done to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mitigate the slowdown? Hibernation would be very useful
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if it could be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> relied on.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>

>>
>>

>
>
 
E

Etaoin Shrdlu

Flightless Bird
On 4/17/2010 4:19 PM, williamtell wrote:
> To get yourself a life is everything!


You shouldn't offer help if you don't know what you're talking about.
Listen (or read) and learn. Better to keep your mouth shut and be
thought a fool than to open it and remove all doubt.
 
W

williamtell

Flightless Bird
Says you, KMA!


"Etaoin Shrdlu" <etaoin@shrdlu.net> wrote in message
news:4bcb1395$0$24278$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com...
> On 4/17/2010 4:19 PM, williamtell wrote:
>> To get yourself a life is everything!

>
> You shouldn't offer help if you don't know what you're talking about.
> Listen (or read) and learn. Better to keep your mouth shut and be thought
> a fool than to open it and remove all doubt.
 
W

williamtell

Flightless Bird
Hey Brainynot, just for you!
The space that the hibernation file requires is directly related to the
amount of RAM that is in the computer. If you add more RAM, the Hiberfil.sys
file must grow to match the total RAM. Adding more RAM also automatically
increases the size of the Pagefile.sys file, which by default is 1.5 times
the amount of RAM. Adding 256 megabytes (M8) of RAM increases the
Pagefile.sys file by 384 MB.

If the Hiberfil.sys file grows by 256 MB and the Pagefile.sys file grows by
384 MB, the free space on the hard disk shrinks by 640 MB. There must still
be at least 740 MB of free space to allow hibernation.

If you cannot unstand get your MOTHER to explain it to you.
The Bird to you!

"Etaoin Shrdlu" <etaoin@shrdlu.net> wrote in message
news:4bcb1395$0$24278$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com...
> On 4/17/2010 4:19 PM, williamtell wrote:
>> To get yourself a life is everything!

>
> You shouldn't offer help if you don't know what you're talking about.
> Listen (or read) and learn. Better to keep your mouth shut and be thought
> a fool than to open it and remove all doubt.
 
W

williamtell

Flightless Bird
Read this, it is very simplistic, you should be able to understand its
meaning, read the paragraph, Hibernation!
IM'N DONE WITH YOUR DUMB ASS!

"williamtell" <wt@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
news:-Oxbde3w3KHA.3580@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Hey Brainynot, just for you!
> The space that the hibernation file requires is directly related to the
> amount of RAM that is in the computer. If you add more RAM, the
> Hiberfil.sys file must grow to match the total RAM. Adding more RAM also
> automatically increases the size of the Pagefile.sys file, which by
> default is 1.5 times the amount of RAM. Adding 256 megabytes (M8) of RAM
> increases the Pagefile.sys file by 384 MB.
>
> If the Hiberfil.sys file grows by 256 MB and the Pagefile.sys file grows
> by 384 MB, the free space on the hard disk shrinks by 640 MB. There must
> still be at least 740 MB of free space to allow hibernation.
>
> If you cannot unstand get your MOTHER to explain it to you.
> The Bird to you!
>
> "Etaoin Shrdlu" <etaoin@shrdlu.net> wrote in message
> news:4bcb1395$0$24278$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com...
>> On 4/17/2010 4:19 PM, williamtell wrote:
>>> To get yourself a life is everything!

>>
>> You shouldn't offer help if you don't know what you're talking about.
>> Listen (or read) and learn. Better to keep your mouth shut and be thought
>> a fool than to open it and remove all doubt.

>
>
 
E

Etaoin Shrdlu

Flightless Bird
On 4/18/2010 10:43 AM, williamtell wrote:
> Hey Brainynot, just for you!
> The space that the hibernation file requires is directly related to the
> amount of RAM that is in the computer. If you add more RAM, the Hiberfil.sys
> file must grow to match the total RAM. Adding more RAM also automatically
> increases the size of the Pagefile.sys file, which by default is 1.5 times
> the amount of RAM. Adding 256 megabytes (M8) of RAM increases the
> Pagefile.sys file by 384 MB.
>
> If the Hiberfil.sys file grows by 256 MB and the Pagefile.sys file grows by
> 384 MB, the free space on the hard disk shrinks by 640 MB. There must still
> be at least 740 MB of free space to allow hibernation.
>
> If you cannot unstand get your MOTHER to explain it to you.
> The Bird to you!


Let's not lose sight of your original ignorant statements. You said that
"...memory use" is "doubled with each hibernation." Wrong. Memory use is
not affected. You also said, "Hibernation makes a mirror image of your
drive." Wrong again. It copies the contents of RAM, along with some
additional data, to hiberfil.sys. No drive image is made.

With this latest post you stick your finger in it again by saying that
the page file size automatically increases when RAM is added. Wrong.
Page file size won't increase until (a) it's done by the user, or (b)
the OS determines that the present size is inadequate. This will not
occur just because the amount of RAM has increased. In fact, adding RAM
makes it *less* likely that increased page file size will be needed.

What you lose with hibernation is some disk space, and with the current
common sizes of hard drives, the amount used is generally negligible.
Being in the habit of constantly hibernating and not doing a full OS
shutdown at least periodically can lead to issues because the
"housekeeping" normally done at shutdown isn't getting done.
 
W

williamtell

Flightless Bird
http://ask-leo.com/why_cant_my_machine_hibernate_and_hows_that_different_than_standby.html
"williamtell" <wt@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
news:uTPjAKx3KHA.4332@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Read this, it is very simplistic, you should be able to understand its
> meaning, read the paragraph, Hibernation!
> IM'N DONE WITH YOUR DUMB ASS!
>
> "williamtell" <wt@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
> news:-Oxbde3w3KHA.3580@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> Hey Brainynot, just for you!
>> The space that the hibernation file requires is directly related to the
>> amount of RAM that is in the computer. If you add more RAM, the
>> Hiberfil.sys file must grow to match the total RAM. Adding more RAM also
>> automatically increases the size of the Pagefile.sys file, which by
>> default is 1.5 times the amount of RAM. Adding 256 megabytes (M8) of RAM
>> increases the Pagefile.sys file by 384 MB.
>>
>> If the Hiberfil.sys file grows by 256 MB and the Pagefile.sys file grows
>> by 384 MB, the free space on the hard disk shrinks by 640 MB. There must
>> still be at least 740 MB of free space to allow hibernation.
>>
>> If you cannot unstand get your MOTHER to explain it to you.
>> The Bird to you!
>>
>> "Etaoin Shrdlu" <etaoin@shrdlu.net> wrote in message
>> news:4bcb1395$0$24278$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com...
>>> On 4/17/2010 4:19 PM, williamtell wrote:
>>>> To get yourself a life is everything!
>>>
>>> You shouldn't offer help if you don't know what you're talking about.
>>> Listen (or read) and learn. Better to keep your mouth shut and be
>>> thought a fool than to open it and remove all doubt.

>>
>>

>
>
 
E

Etaoin Shrdlu

Flightless Bird
On 4/18/2010 11:26 AM, williamtell wrote:
> http://ask-leo.com/why_cant_my_machine_hibernate_and_hows_that_different_than_standby.html
>
>> Read this, it is very simplistic, you should be able to understand its
>> meaning, read the paragraph, Hibernation!
>> IM'N DONE WITH YOUR DUMB ASS!


There is nothing in the linked article that contradicts anything I've
said. I think where your reading comprehension is letting you down might
be where the author says "Hibernation writes a complete image of your
computer's RAM memory to the hard drive..." Aside from the pleonasm
"RAM memory," this means that (as I said earlier) hibernation involves
writing the contents of RAM to the hard drive (an "image" of *RAM* is
made). *You* said that a mirror image of the *hard drive* is made.

The fact that you can't be cured of your ignorance (lack of knowledge)
means that you're stupid. That's an incurable condition, I'm afraid.
 
W

williamtell

Flightless Bird
I may be stupid but you are a lier, not to say MF, you would make a point if
I cared one bit, the fact is you have been played. Now go touch yourself.
And I ask? Who is stupid here, you go to lenths to make a point over
nothing, do something contructive today, like get yourself a life, you
really have too much time on your hands, use your left!


"Etaoin Shrdlu" <etaoin@shrdlu.net> wrote in message
news:4bcb3dc2$0$7746$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com...
> On 4/18/2010 11:26 AM, williamtell wrote:
>> http://ask-leo.com/why_cant_my_machine_hibernate_and_hows_that_different_than_standby.html
>>
>>> Read this, it is very simplistic, you should be able to understand its
>>> meaning, read the paragraph, Hibernation!
>>> IM'N DONE WITH YOUR DUMB ASS!

>
> There is nothing in the linked article that contradicts anything I've
> said. I think where your reading comprehension is letting you down might
> be where the author says "Hibernation writes a complete image of your
> computer's RAM memory to the hard drive..." Aside from the pleonasm "RAM
> memory," this means that (as I said earlier) hibernation involves writing
> the contents of RAM to the hard drive (an "image" of *RAM* is made). *You*
> said that a mirror image of the *hard drive* is made.
>
> The fact that you can't be cured of your ignorance (lack of knowledge)
> means that you're stupid. That's an incurable condition, I'm afraid.
 
U

Unknown

Flightless Bird
Still playing stupid I see. Well-----you're winning. You are like the guy
walking down the street near a
building and see a sign that says "Ring Bell For Night Watchman" and you
ring it.
When the watchman appears you ask "Why can't you ring it yourself".
"williamtell" <wt@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
news:-OqWnfFy3KHA.4332@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>I may be stupid but you are a lier, not to say MF, you would make a point
>if I cared one bit, the fact is you have been played. Now go touch
>yourself.
> And I ask? Who is stupid here, you go to lenths to make a point over
> nothing, do something contructive today, like get yourself a life, you
> really have too much time on your hands, use your left!
>
>
> "Etaoin Shrdlu" <etaoin@shrdlu.net> wrote in message
> news:4bcb3dc2$0$7746$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com...
>> On 4/18/2010 11:26 AM, williamtell wrote:
>>> http://ask-leo.com/why_cant_my_machine_hibernate_and_hows_that_different_than_standby.html
>>>
>>>> Read this, it is very simplistic, you should be able to understand its
>>>> meaning, read the paragraph, Hibernation!
>>>> IM'N DONE WITH YOUR DUMB ASS!

>>
>> There is nothing in the linked article that contradicts anything I've
>> said. I think where your reading comprehension is letting you down might
>> be where the author says "Hibernation writes a complete image of your
>> computer's RAM memory to the hard drive..." Aside from the pleonasm "RAM
>> memory," this means that (as I said earlier) hibernation involves writing
>> the contents of RAM to the hard drive (an "image" of *RAM* is made).
>> *You* said that a mirror image of the *hard drive* is made.
>>
>> The fact that you can't be cured of your ignorance (lack of knowledge)
>> means that you're stupid. That's an incurable condition, I'm afraid.

>
>
 
W

williamtell

Flightless Bird
And your the Schmuck that hides behind Unknown!

"Unknown" <unknown@unknown.kom> wrote in message
news:-O1gvoM03KHA.5588@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Still playing stupid I see. Well-----you're winning. You are like the guy
> walking down the street near a
> building and see a sign that says "Ring Bell For Night Watchman" and you
> ring it.
> When the watchman appears you ask "Why can't you ring it yourself".
> "williamtell" <wt@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
> news:-OqWnfFy3KHA.4332@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>I may be stupid but you are a lier, not to say MF, you would make a point
>>if I cared one bit, the fact is you have been played. Now go touch
>>yourself.
>> And I ask? Who is stupid here, you go to lenths to make a point over
>> nothing, do something contructive today, like get yourself a life, you
>> really have too much time on your hands, use your left!
>>
>>
>> "Etaoin Shrdlu" <etaoin@shrdlu.net> wrote in message
>> news:4bcb3dc2$0$7746$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com...
>>> On 4/18/2010 11:26 AM, williamtell wrote:
>>>> http://ask-leo.com/why_cant_my_machine_hibernate_and_hows_that_different_than_standby.html
>>>>
>>>>> Read this, it is very simplistic, you should be able to understand its
>>>>> meaning, read the paragraph, Hibernation!
>>>>> IM'N DONE WITH YOUR DUMB ASS!
>>>
>>> There is nothing in the linked article that contradicts anything I've
>>> said. I think where your reading comprehension is letting you down might
>>> be where the author says "Hibernation writes a complete image of your
>>> computer's RAM memory to the hard drive..." Aside from the pleonasm
>>> "RAM memory," this means that (as I said earlier) hibernation involves
>>> writing the contents of RAM to the hard drive (an "image" of *RAM* is
>>> made). *You* said that a mirror image of the *hard drive* is made.
>>>
>>> The fact that you can't be cured of your ignorance (lack of knowledge)
>>> means that you're stupid. That's an incurable condition, I'm afraid.

>>
>>

>
>
 
D

DrTeeth

Flightless Bird
On Sat, 17 Apr 2010 15:16:30 -0500, just as I was about to take a
herb, "Unknown" <unknown@unknown.kom> disturbed my reverie and wrote:

> The size of the file on the disk has to be equal to
>the memory size.


So it does NOT double. It stays the same as does the memory size.
--

Cheers,

DrT

** Stress - the condition brought about by having to
** resist the temptation to beat the living daylights
** out of someone who richly deserves it.
 
U

Unknown

Flightless Bird
You got your arrows upside-down in your quiver, same as your posts on this
news group.
"williamtell" <wt@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
news:-Omp6GR13KHA.1660@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> And your the Schmuck that hides behind Unknown!
>
> "Unknown" <unknown@unknown.kom> wrote in message
> news:-O1gvoM03KHA.5588@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> Still playing stupid I see. Well-----you're winning. You are like the guy
>> walking down the street near a
>> building and see a sign that says "Ring Bell For Night Watchman" and you
>> ring it.
>> When the watchman appears you ask "Why can't you ring it yourself".
>> "williamtell" <wt@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:-OqWnfFy3KHA.4332@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>I may be stupid but you are a lier, not to say MF, you would make a point
>>>if I cared one bit, the fact is you have been played. Now go touch
>>>yourself.
>>> And I ask? Who is stupid here, you go to lenths to make a point over
>>> nothing, do something contructive today, like get yourself a life, you
>>> really have too much time on your hands, use your left!
>>>
>>>
>>> "Etaoin Shrdlu" <etaoin@shrdlu.net> wrote in message
>>> news:4bcb3dc2$0$7746$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com...
>>>> On 4/18/2010 11:26 AM, williamtell wrote:
>>>>> http://ask-leo.com/why_cant_my_machine_hibernate_and_hows_that_different_than_standby.html
>>>>>
>>>>>> Read this, it is very simplistic, you should be able to understand
>>>>>> its
>>>>>> meaning, read the paragraph, Hibernation!
>>>>>> IM'N DONE WITH YOUR DUMB ASS!
>>>>
>>>> There is nothing in the linked article that contradicts anything I've
>>>> said. I think where your reading comprehension is letting you down
>>>> might be where the author says "Hibernation writes a complete image of
>>>> your computer's RAM memory to the hard drive..." Aside from the
>>>> pleonasm "RAM memory," this means that (as I said earlier) hibernation
>>>> involves writing the contents of RAM to the hard drive (an "image" of
>>>> *RAM* is made). *You* said that a mirror image of the *hard drive* is
>>>> made.
>>>>
>>>> The fact that you can't be cured of your ignorance (lack of knowledge)
>>>> means that you're stupid. That's an incurable condition, I'm afraid.
>>>
>>>

>>
>>

>
>
 
W

williamtell

Flightless Bird
Exactily, todays youth cannot see or even reason past the tip of their nose,
express exactily or they can't get it.
Thanks!

"DrTeeth" <no-email@tardis.com> wrote in message
news:55bos5lbgtrlphp1to7m34fmevm8q2aq6u@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 17 Apr 2010 15:16:30 -0500, just as I was about to take a
> herb, "Unknown" <unknown@unknown.kom> disturbed my reverie and wrote:
>
>> The size of the file on the disk has to be equal to
>>the memory size.

>
> So it does NOT double. It stays the same as does the memory size.
> --
>
> Cheers,
>
> DrT
>
> ** Stress - the condition brought about by having to
> ** resist the temptation to beat the living daylights
> ** out of someone who richly deserves it.
 
W

williamtell

Flightless Bird
Exactily, todays youth cannot see or even reason past the tip of their nose,
express exactily or they can't get it.
Thanks!

"DrTeeth" <no-email@tardis.com> wrote in message
news:55bos5lbgtrlphp1to7m34fmevm8q2aq6u@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 17 Apr 2010 15:16:30 -0500, just as I was about to take a
> herb, "Unknown" <unknown@unknown.kom> disturbed my reverie and wrote:
>
>> The size of the file on the disk has to be equal to
>>the memory size.

>
> So it does NOT double. It stays the same as does the memory size.
> --
>
> Cheers,
>
> DrT
>
> ** Stress - the condition brought about by having to
> ** resist the temptation to beat the living daylights
> ** out of someone who richly deserves it.
 
U

Unknown

Flightless Bird
Who said it doubles?
"DrTeeth" <no-email@tardis.com> wrote in message
news:55bos5lbgtrlphp1to7m34fmevm8q2aq6u@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 17 Apr 2010 15:16:30 -0500, just as I was about to take a
> herb, "Unknown" <unknown@unknown.kom> disturbed my reverie and wrote:
>
>> The size of the file on the disk has to be equal to
>>the memory size.

>
> So it does NOT double. It stays the same as does the memory size.
> --
>
> Cheers,
>
> DrT
>
> ** Stress - the condition brought about by having to
> ** resist the temptation to beat the living daylights
> ** out of someone who richly deserves it.
 
W

williamtell

Flightless Bird
Do something constructive, GO,PLAY WITH YOURSELF, AFTERALL YOU ARE A
SCHMUCK,AND A KNOWN PEST TO ALL ON THESE NEWS GROUPS!
GET OVER IT CHILD.

"Unknown" <unknown@unknown.kom> wrote in message
news:%232fNbX93KHA.348@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Who said it doubles?
> "DrTeeth" <no-email@tardis.com> wrote in message
> news:55bos5lbgtrlphp1to7m34fmevm8q2aq6u@4ax.com...
>> On Sat, 17 Apr 2010 15:16:30 -0500, just as I was about to take a
>> herb, "Unknown" <unknown@unknown.kom> disturbed my reverie and wrote:
>>
>>> The size of the file on the disk has to be equal to
>>>the memory size.

>>
>> So it does NOT double. It stays the same as does the memory size.
>> --
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> DrT
>>
>> ** Stress - the condition brought about by having to
>> ** resist the temptation to beat the living daylights
>> ** out of someone who richly deserves it.

>
>
 
U

Unknown

Flightless Bird
I am doing something constructive. I am correcting all your stupid
errors/comments on this news group.
You're the type that cannot dial 911 on the phone because there's no eleven
button.
"williamtell" <wt@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
news:eWV6pl93KHA.5880@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Do something constructive, GO,PLAY WITH YOURSELF, AFTERALL YOU ARE A
> SCHMUCK,AND A KNOWN PEST TO ALL ON THESE NEWS GROUPS!
> GET OVER IT CHILD.
>
> "Unknown" <unknown@unknown.kom> wrote in message
> news:%232fNbX93KHA.348@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> Who said it doubles?
>> "DrTeeth" <no-email@tardis.com> wrote in message
>> news:55bos5lbgtrlphp1to7m34fmevm8q2aq6u@4ax.com...
>>> On Sat, 17 Apr 2010 15:16:30 -0500, just as I was about to take a
>>> herb, "Unknown" <unknown@unknown.kom> disturbed my reverie and wrote:
>>>
>>>> The size of the file on the disk has to be equal to
>>>>the memory size.
>>>
>>> So it does NOT double. It stays the same as does the memory size.
>>> --
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> DrT
>>>
>>> ** Stress - the condition brought about by having to
>>> ** resist the temptation to beat the living daylights
>>> ** out of someone who richly deserves it.

>>
>>

>
>
 
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