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HEY.....MVPS's....We user's need some info on MS closing these newsgroups.

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Barry Schwarz

Flightless Bird
On Wed, 9 Jun 2010 17:09:15 +0100, "Gordon" <gordonbparker@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>
>"Dan" <news@worldofspack.com> wrote in message
>news:#0M4fc#BLHA.4636@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>
>> then the number of posts on these groups will drop significantly

>
>Which has already happened. The traffic is down many hundreds of percent...


So not only are there no new messages but many old ones are
disappearing?

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Dan

Flightless Bird
"Gordon" <gordonbparker@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:huqhas$7n9$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>
> "Dan" <news@worldofspack.com> wrote in message
> news:-OLjxtdHCLHA.1072@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>
>> Yes, it's quiet. Half of the groups I were subscribed to in WLM have
>> already been removed. I won't miss the EggHeadCafe posts (most of which
>> seem to be replies to posts from 3+ years ago ...),

>
> Too true....
>
>
>> but I will miss the SQL Server

>
> Had a look here?
> http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/category/sqlserver/


Yes, but it's not the same as the newsgroup :p

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PA Bear [MS MVP]

Flightless Bird
Barry Schwarz wrote:
>>> then the number of posts on these groups will drop significantly

>>
>> Which has already happened. The traffic is down many hundreds of
>> percent...

>
> So not only are there no new messages but many old ones are
> disappearing?


The newsgroups listed in the main part of this page are no longer on the MS
newsserver:
http://www.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/list/en-us/default.aspx

IOW, everything's "disappeared" (at least on the news://msnews.microsoft.com
server).
 
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Bubey

Flightless Bird
Thanks Bruce, appreciate your help !

"Bruce Hagen" <BRH@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
news:hulkq2$rpg$1@news.eternal-september.org...
They don't tell us everything. I have no information about the next phase
of newsgroup closures other than what is here.

Can't find what you are looking for? Links are available below for
Newsgroups Deleted June 1, 2010
http://www.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/list/en-us/default.aspx

Microsoft Responds to the Evolution of Communities
http://www.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/default.mspx

By October, the MS news server will cease to exist. Other news servers
will continue to carry the newsgroups. How long, no one knows.

If you subscribed to a server such as Eternal-September, you will find
your lost groups. That said, there will be less people asking and
answering posts as time goes on. I am posting now in the new Microsoft
Answers forums as well as the Usenet groups.

Here is the Microsoft Answers home page.
http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/categories
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Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP [Mail]
Imperial Beach, CA


"Bubey" <catlov@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:-OBDJpaxBLHA.3840@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Since you MVP's are in the know, could you please post a msg/list
> of what and when these topics will be dropped and Where should we
> go for help. (Dates, other links, etc.) Maybe post is several area's
> so all user's will get the info.
>
> WHY is Microsoft dropping these newsgroups ?
> I've used these Newsgroups since it was started and they have been
> so helpful in solving problems and learning.
>
> Not sure where to post this but it would be nice to copy it into
> the more used groups for others to have this information.
>
> Thanks in advance for the help and all your help in the past years !
>
 
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Bubey

Flightless Bird
No Mo, are you always so helpful ???

"No Mo" <nomo@HoopleHead.invalid> wrote in message
news:hulkqk$rsb$1@news.eternal-september.org...
The information has been posted numerous times. Look for it.

"Bubey" <catlov@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:-OBDJpaxBLHA.3840@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
: Since you MVP's are in the know, could you please post a msg/list
: of what and when these topics will be dropped and Where should we
: go for help. (Dates, other links, etc.) Maybe post is several area's
: so all user's will get the info.
:
: WHY is Microsoft dropping these newsgroups ?
: I've used these Newsgroups since it was started and they have been
: so helpful in solving problems and learning.
:
: Not sure where to post this but it would be nice to copy it into
: the more used groups for others to have this information.
:
: Thanks in advance for the help and all your help in the past years !
:
 
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Bickford Schmeckler

Flightless Bird
Are you always so damn lazy, HoopleHead?

"Bubey" <catlov@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:%232FUxkQCLHA.5464@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
: No Mo, are you always so helpful ???
:
: "No Mo" <nomo@HoopleHead.invalid> wrote in message
: news:hulkqk$rsb$1@news.eternal-september.org...
: The information has been posted numerous times. Look for it.
:
: "Bubey" <catlov@earthlink.net> wrote in message
: news:-OBDJpaxBLHA.3840@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
:: Since you MVP's are in the know, could you please post a msg/list
:: of what and when these topics will be dropped and Where should we
:: go for help. (Dates, other links, etc.) Maybe post is several area's
:: so all user's will get the info.
::
:: WHY is Microsoft dropping these newsgroups ?
:: I've used these Newsgroups since it was started and they have been
:: so helpful in solving problems and learning.
::
:: Not sure where to post this but it would be nice to copy it into
:: the more used groups for others to have this information.
::
:: Thanks in advance for the help and all your help in the past years !
::
:
:
 
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brbrown

Flightless Bird
Re: HEY.....MVPS's....We user's need some info on MS closing these

Thanks everyone. Brian

"Tecknomage" wrote:

> On Tue, 8 Jun 2010 10:26:59 -0400, "Bubey" <catlov@earthlink.net>
> wrote:
>
> > Since you MVP's are in the know, could you please post a msg/list
> > of what and when these topics will be dropped and Where should we
> > go for help. (Dates, other links, etc.) Maybe post is several area's
> > so all user's will get the info.
> >
> > WHY is Microsoft dropping these newsgroups ?
> > I've used these Newsgroups since it was started and they have been
> > so helpful in solving problems and learning.
> >
> > Not sure where to post this but it would be nice to copy it into
> > the more used groups for others to have this information.
> >
> > Thanks in advance for the help and all your help in the past years !

>
>
> Microsoft does NOT own nor control "microsoft.public." groups.
>
> This is why these groups are called "public."
>
>
> No one entity owns/controls ANY Newsgroup on the Usenet system.
>
> The NNTP Usenet system is totally independent system.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usenet
>
> The ONLY way the "microsoft.public" groups can get dropped is if EVERY
> Usegroup provider removes them from their NNTP Servers.
>
> The Usenet system grew out of the old (DOS days) "Internet Bulletin
> Board" systems. The term "bulletin board" is very apt, think of a cork
> bulletin board in a college dorm or office. ANYONE can post a notice
> on the bulletin board.
>
> Usegroups are the updated equivalent of the "Internet Bulletin
> Board" using the NNTP Protocol. Totally public and anyone can post.
>
> There MAY be a *few* Newsgroups that are monitored by a person or
> team, where a submitted a post is reviewed before they appear. These
> tend to be carried by specific Usegroup Providers and are not
> distributed. ("microsoft.public" groups are not monitored)
>
> Today, may ISPs are dropping *free* Newsgroups because of the very
> high overhead (cost & resources) needed. ISPs make their money
> providing connection to the WWW, and providing eMail service, to
> clients. You are using one now (COX, AT&T, etc).
>
> The focus is shifting to providers who *specialize* in Newsnet/Usenet,
> usually a *subscription service* which is how they make their money.
> (they do NOT provide connection to the WWW)
>
> Examples:
> I am using Forte's APN = http://www.forteinc.com/apn/index.php
> GigaNews = http://www.giganews.com/
> Usenet.com = http://www.usenet.com/
>
> You can Google for "usenet service" to get a listing.
>
>
>
> The ONLY things that Microsoft does control are their various WEB
> forums.
>
>
> --
> ======== Tecknomage ========
> Computer Systems Specialist
> IT Technician
> San Diego, CA
> .
>
 
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