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Help please: User account shows up that I didn't create

Discussion in 'Windows 7' started by someone@anywhere.com, May 22, 2010.

  1. someone@anywhere.com

    someone@anywhere.com Flightless Bird

    I have two computers, I just a few weeks ago installed Windows Home
    Pre 32 bit on one of them, all went well and so far, other than a
    couple strange things I'm happy.

    When I installed I created a user 'Gene' running as a normal user, not
    admin. So at log in I see my Admin account and also my Gene account
    and I most often run as Gene. The strange thing is that when looking
    at the user accounts on the hard drive the account I seem to be using
    is called 'Gene_2' instead of 'Gene'. There is a User called Gene
    present under users but I am unable to access it when logged in as I
    do under the Gene account.

    The other computer also has Windows 7 but Pro version and it's 64 bit
    and it has the same exact issue, I had created a user called Gene
    during setup and that's what shows up at log in time but I seem to be
    running under a user name of gene_2 instead.

    I can find nothing anywhere regarding this issue and what's going on.
    Anyone have any help for me?

    Thanks,
    Gene
     
  2. John B. Slocomb

    John B. Slocomb Flightless Bird

    On Sat, 22 May 2010 17:43:51 -0500, someone@anywhere.com wrote:

    >I have two computers, I just a few weeks ago installed Windows Home
    >Pre 32 bit on one of them, all went well and so far, other than a
    >couple strange things I'm happy.
    >
    >When I installed I created a user 'Gene' running as a normal user, not
    >admin. So at log in I see my Admin account and also my Gene account
    >and I most often run as Gene. The strange thing is that when looking
    >at the user accounts on the hard drive the account I seem to be using
    >is called 'Gene_2' instead of 'Gene'. There is a User called Gene
    >present under users but I am unable to access it when logged in as I
    >do under the Gene account.
    >
    >The other computer also has Windows 7 but Pro version and it's 64 bit
    >and it has the same exact issue, I had created a user called Gene
    >during setup and that's what shows up at log in time but I seem to be
    >running under a user name of gene_2 instead.
    >
    >I can find nothing anywhere regarding this issue and what's going on.
    >Anyone have any help for me?
    >
    >Thanks,
    >Gene


    When I installed Windows 7 it made a user directory with the name I
    had furnished at some point during the installation. If I then
    manually created another directory using the same name the system
    would name it xxx_2, or some such name.

    John B. Slocomb
    (johnbslocombatgmaildotcom)
     
  3. someone@anywhere.com

    someone@anywhere.com Flightless Bird

    On Sun, 23 May 2010 09:33:11 +0700, John B. Slocomb
    <johnbslocomb@invalid.com> wrote:

    >On Sat, 22 May 2010 17:43:51 -0500, someone@anywhere.com wrote:
    >
    >>I have two computers, I just a few weeks ago installed Windows Home
    >>Pre 32 bit on one of them, all went well and so far, other than a
    >>couple strange things I'm happy.
    >>
    >>When I installed I created a user 'Gene' running as a normal user, not
    >>admin. So at log in I see my Admin account and also my Gene account
    >>and I most often run as Gene. The strange thing is that when looking
    >>at the user accounts on the hard drive the account I seem to be using
    >>is called 'Gene_2' instead of 'Gene'. There is a User called Gene
    >>present under users but I am unable to access it when logged in as I
    >>do under the Gene account.
    >>
    >>The other computer also has Windows 7 but Pro version and it's 64 bit
    >>and it has the same exact issue, I had created a user called Gene
    >>during setup and that's what shows up at log in time but I seem to be
    >>running under a user name of gene_2 instead.
    >>
    >>I can find nothing anywhere regarding this issue and what's going on.
    >>Anyone have any help for me?
    >>
    >>Thanks,
    >>Gene

    >
    >When I installed Windows 7 it made a user directory with the name I
    >had furnished at some point during the installation. If I then
    >manually created another directory using the same name the system
    >would name it xxx_2, or some such name.
    >
    >John B. Slocomb
    >(johnbslocombatgmaildotcom)


    John, in either case I did not create another user with the same name.
    On one machine I created a second Admin account with a different name
    and on the other machine I did not. It only has Admin and Gene and
    those are the two that show up during log in time but if I look under
    the user folder there is Gene and Gene_2 and I cannot access Gene,
    only gene_2 while logged in as Gene. I suspect something is wrong as
    it's the same on both machines.
     
  4. John B. Slocomb

    John B. Slocomb Flightless Bird

    On Sun, 23 May 2010 05:58:01 -0500, someone@anywhere.com wrote:

    >On Sun, 23 May 2010 09:33:11 +0700, John B. Slocomb
    ><johnbslocomb@invalid.com> wrote:
    >
    >>On Sat, 22 May 2010 17:43:51 -0500, someone@anywhere.com wrote:
    >>
    >>>I have two computers, I just a few weeks ago installed Windows Home
    >>>Pre 32 bit on one of them, all went well and so far, other than a
    >>>couple strange things I'm happy.
    >>>
    >>>When I installed I created a user 'Gene' running as a normal user, not
    >>>admin. So at log in I see my Admin account and also my Gene account
    >>>and I most often run as Gene. The strange thing is that when looking
    >>>at the user accounts on the hard drive the account I seem to be using
    >>>is called 'Gene_2' instead of 'Gene'. There is a User called Gene
    >>>present under users but I am unable to access it when logged in as I
    >>>do under the Gene account.
    >>>
    >>>The other computer also has Windows 7 but Pro version and it's 64 bit
    >>>and it has the same exact issue, I had created a user called Gene
    >>>during setup and that's what shows up at log in time but I seem to be
    >>>running under a user name of gene_2 instead.
    >>>
    >>>I can find nothing anywhere regarding this issue and what's going on.
    >>>Anyone have any help for me?
    >>>
    >>>Thanks,
    >>>Gene

    >>
    >>When I installed Windows 7 it made a user directory with the name I
    >>had furnished at some point during the installation. If I then
    >>manually created another directory using the same name the system
    >>would name it xxx_2, or some such name.
    >>
    >>John B. Slocomb
    >>(johnbslocombatgmaildotcom)

    >
    >John, in either case I did not create another user with the same name.
    >On one machine I created a second Admin account with a different name
    >and on the other machine I did not. It only has Admin and Gene and
    >those are the two that show up during log in time but if I look under
    >the user folder there is Gene and Gene_2 and I cannot access Gene,
    >only gene_2 while logged in as Gene. I suspect something is wrong as
    >it's the same on both machines.
    >

    Mystifying. Are you sure that Gene is not a link to Gene_2 or
    vise-versa? Rather like the two document directories under the
    \user\name directory.Can you rename one without effecting the other?

    My experience with 7 is limited to the four or five installations I
    have made of it but none of them added a XYZ_2 directory without being
    told to.

    John B. Slocomb
    (johnbslocombatgmaildotcom)
     
  5. someone@anywhere.com

    someone@anywhere.com Flightless Bird

    On Sun, 23 May 2010 19:59:31 +0700, John B. Slocomb
    <johnbslocomb@invalid.com> wrote:

    >On Sun, 23 May 2010 05:58:01 -0500, someone@anywhere.com wrote:
    >
    >>On Sun, 23 May 2010 09:33:11 +0700, John B. Slocomb
    >><johnbslocomb@invalid.com> wrote:
    >>
    >>>On Sat, 22 May 2010 17:43:51 -0500, someone@anywhere.com wrote:
    >>>
    >>>>I have two computers, I just a few weeks ago installed Windows Home
    >>>>Pre 32 bit on one of them, all went well and so far, other than a
    >>>>couple strange things I'm happy.
    >>>>
    >>>>When I installed I created a user 'Gene' running as a normal user, not
    >>>>admin. So at log in I see my Admin account and also my Gene account
    >>>>and I most often run as Gene. The strange thing is that when looking
    >>>>at the user accounts on the hard drive the account I seem to be using
    >>>>is called 'Gene_2' instead of 'Gene'. There is a User called Gene
    >>>>present under users but I am unable to access it when logged in as I
    >>>>do under the Gene account.
    >>>>
    >>>>The other computer also has Windows 7 but Pro version and it's 64 bit
    >>>>and it has the same exact issue, I had created a user called Gene
    >>>>during setup and that's what shows up at log in time but I seem to be
    >>>>running under a user name of gene_2 instead.
    >>>>
    >>>>I can find nothing anywhere regarding this issue and what's going on.
    >>>>Anyone have any help for me?
    >>>>
    >>>>Thanks,
    >>>>Gene
    >>>
    >>>When I installed Windows 7 it made a user directory with the name I
    >>>had furnished at some point during the installation. If I then
    >>>manually created another directory using the same name the system
    >>>would name it xxx_2, or some such name.
    >>>
    >>>John B. Slocomb
    >>>(johnbslocombatgmaildotcom)

    >>
    >>John, in either case I did not create another user with the same name.
    >>On one machine I created a second Admin account with a different name
    >>and on the other machine I did not. It only has Admin and Gene and
    >>those are the two that show up during log in time but if I look under
    >>the user folder there is Gene and Gene_2 and I cannot access Gene,
    >>only gene_2 while logged in as Gene. I suspect something is wrong as
    >>it's the same on both machines.
    >>

    >Mystifying. Are you sure that Gene is not a link to Gene_2 or
    >vise-versa? Rather like the two document directories under the
    >\user\name directory.Can you rename one without effecting the other?
    >
    >My experience with 7 is limited to the four or five installations I
    >have made of it but none of them added a XYZ_2 directory without being
    >told to.
    >
    >John B. Slocomb
    >(johnbslocombatgmaildotcom)


    Wow, this is strange. It turns out that while logged in as gene, I can
    access many of the folders under the gene user under the users
    directory. BTW, admin does not show up there, just default, gene,
    gene_2 and public. The desktop folder is acessible and under gene it
    has just a few items in it vs gene_2 which seems to have all my
    desktop items. Is it possible that the gene folder is really the admin
    folder and the gene_2 folder is the name the system used for user
    gene. Note, both of my win7 computers look this way for some reason.
    BTW, it seems not to harm anything as they both run great, it's just
    so strange.
     
  6. Seth

    Seth Flightless Bird

    <someone@anywhere.com> wrote in message
    news:4bijv55i6kvp64rb49i4qh4jgkitum6plg@4ax.com...
    > On Sun, 23 May 2010 19:59:31 +0700, John B. Slocomb
    > <johnbslocomb@invalid.com> wrote:
    >
    >>On Sun, 23 May 2010 05:58:01 -0500, someone@anywhere.com wrote:
    >>
    >>>On Sun, 23 May 2010 09:33:11 +0700, John B. Slocomb
    >>><johnbslocomb@invalid.com> wrote:
    >>>
    >>>>On Sat, 22 May 2010 17:43:51 -0500, someone@anywhere.com wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>>I have two computers, I just a few weeks ago installed Windows Home
    >>>>>Pre 32 bit on one of them, all went well and so far, other than a
    >>>>>couple strange things I'm happy.
    >>>>>
    >>>>>When I installed I created a user 'Gene' running as a normal user, not
    >>>>>admin. So at log in I see my Admin account and also my Gene account
    >>>>>and I most often run as Gene. The strange thing is that when looking
    >>>>>at the user accounts on the hard drive the account I seem to be using
    >>>>>is called 'Gene_2' instead of 'Gene'. There is a User called Gene
    >>>>>present under users but I am unable to access it when logged in as I
    >>>>>do under the Gene account.
    >>>>>
    >>>>>The other computer also has Windows 7 but Pro version and it's 64 bit
    >>>>>and it has the same exact issue, I had created a user called Gene
    >>>>>during setup and that's what shows up at log in time but I seem to be
    >>>>>running under a user name of gene_2 instead.
    >>>>>
    >>>>>I can find nothing anywhere regarding this issue and what's going on.
    >>>>>Anyone have any help for me?
    >>>>>
    >>>>>Thanks,
    >>>>>Gene
    >>>>
    >>>>When I installed Windows 7 it made a user directory with the name I
    >>>>had furnished at some point during the installation. If I then
    >>>>manually created another directory using the same name the system
    >>>>would name it xxx_2, or some such name.
    >>>>
    >>>>John B. Slocomb
    >>>>(johnbslocombatgmaildotcom)
    >>>
    >>>John, in either case I did not create another user with the same name.
    >>>On one machine I created a second Admin account with a different name
    >>>and on the other machine I did not. It only has Admin and Gene and
    >>>those are the two that show up during log in time but if I look under
    >>>the user folder there is Gene and Gene_2 and I cannot access Gene,
    >>>only gene_2 while logged in as Gene. I suspect something is wrong as
    >>>it's the same on both machines.
    >>>

    >>Mystifying. Are you sure that Gene is not a link to Gene_2 or
    >>vise-versa? Rather like the two document directories under the
    >>\user\name directory.Can you rename one without effecting the other?
    >>
    >>My experience with 7 is limited to the four or five installations I
    >>have made of it but none of them added a XYZ_2 directory without being
    >>told to.
    >>
    >>John B. Slocomb
    >>(johnbslocombatgmaildotcom)

    >
    > Wow, this is strange. It turns out that while logged in as gene, I can
    > access many of the folders under the gene user under the users
    > directory. BTW, admin does not show up there, just default, gene,
    > gene_2 and public. The desktop folder is acessible and under gene it
    > has just a few items in it vs gene_2 which seems to have all my
    > desktop items. Is it possible that the gene folder is really the admin
    > folder and the gene_2 folder is the name the system used for user
    > gene. Note, both of my win7 computers look this way for some reason.
    > BTW, it seems not to harm anything as they both run great, it's just
    > so strange.


    While logged in as either account (as in, do this for both accounts), open a
    CMD box and type "set user" followed by [Enter].

    What do you see while logged in as each account? The %USERNAME% variable is
    who you are currently logged in as and %USERPROFILE% is the users path.

    My guess without seeing the above output is ADMIN=GENE and GENE=GENE_2.
    When the GENE account was created there was already a users folder for GENE
    and hence the number that was added.
     
  7. a@b.c

    a@b.c Flightless Bird

    On Sun, 23 May 2010 19:38:18 -0500, someone@anywhere.com wrote:

    >On Sun, 23 May 2010 19:59:31 +0700, John B. Slocomb
    ><johnbslocomb@invalid.com> wrote:
    >
    >>On Sun, 23 May 2010 05:58:01 -0500, someone@anywhere.com wrote:
    >>
    >>>On Sun, 23 May 2010 09:33:11 +0700, John B. Slocomb
    >>><johnbslocomb@invalid.com> wrote:
    >>>
    >>>>On Sat, 22 May 2010 17:43:51 -0500, someone@anywhere.com wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>>I have two computers, I just a few weeks ago installed Windows Home
    >>>>>Pre 32 bit on one of them, all went well and so far, other than a
    >>>>>couple strange things I'm happy.
    >>>>>
    >>>>>When I installed I created a user 'Gene' running as a normal user, not
    >>>>>admin. So at log in I see my Admin account and also my Gene account
    >>>>>and I most often run as Gene. The strange thing is that when looking
    >>>>>at the user accounts on the hard drive the account I seem to be using
    >>>>>is called 'Gene_2' instead of 'Gene'. There is a User called Gene
    >>>>>present under users but I am unable to access it when logged in as I
    >>>>>do under the Gene account.
    >>>>>
    >>>>>The other computer also has Windows 7 but Pro version and it's 64 bit
    >>>>>and it has the same exact issue, I had created a user called Gene
    >>>>>during setup and that's what shows up at log in time but I seem to be
    >>>>>running under a user name of gene_2 instead.
    >>>>>
    >>>>>I can find nothing anywhere regarding this issue and what's going on.
    >>>>>Anyone have any help for me?
    >>>>>
    >>>>>Thanks,
    >>>>>Gene
    >>>>
    >>>>When I installed Windows 7 it made a user directory with the name I
    >>>>had furnished at some point during the installation. If I then
    >>>>manually created another directory using the same name the system
    >>>>would name it xxx_2, or some such name.
    >>>>
    >>>>John B. Slocomb
    >>>>(johnbslocombatgmaildotcom)
    >>>
    >>>John, in either case I did not create another user with the same name.
    >>>On one machine I created a second Admin account with a different name
    >>>and on the other machine I did not. It only has Admin and Gene and
    >>>those are the two that show up during log in time but if I look under
    >>>the user folder there is Gene and Gene_2 and I cannot access Gene,
    >>>only gene_2 while logged in as Gene. I suspect something is wrong as
    >>>it's the same on both machines.
    >>>

    >>Mystifying. Are you sure that Gene is not a link to Gene_2 or
    >>vise-versa? Rather like the two document directories under the
    >>\user\name directory.Can you rename one without effecting the other?
    >>
    >>My experience with 7 is limited to the four or five installations I
    >>have made of it but none of them added a XYZ_2 directory without being
    >>told to.
    >>
    >>John B. Slocomb
    >>(johnbslocombatgmaildotcom)

    >
    >Wow, this is strange. It turns out that while logged in as gene, I can
    >access many of the folders under the gene user under the users
    >directory. BTW, admin does not show up there, just default, gene,
    >gene_2 and public. The desktop folder is acessible and under gene it
    >has just a few items in it vs gene_2 which seems to have all my
    >desktop items. Is it possible that the gene folder is really the admin
    >folder and the gene_2 folder is the name the system used for user
    >gene. Note, both of my win7 computers look this way for some reason.
    >BTW, it seems not to harm anything as they both run great, it's just
    >so strange.


    Yes, that is why you have 2 folders, one if for gene the administrator
    and the other is for gene the user. There is no folder actually
    labelled administrator because the master administrator account is
    disabled by default in all recent versions of windows (xp and vista)
    and you won't have a folder labelled administrator unless you
    specifically turn that account on.
     
  8. PeeCee

    PeeCee Flightless Bird

    <someone@anywhere.com> wrote in message
    news:n5ngv5p09gk12nvvsdfs0797ouleis3u9q@4ax.com...
    > I have two computers, I just a few weeks ago installed Windows Home
    > Pre 32 bit on one of them, all went well and so far, other than a
    > couple strange things I'm happy.
    >
    > When I installed I created a user 'Gene' running as a normal user, not
    > admin. So at log in I see my Admin account and also my Gene account
    > and I most often run as Gene. The strange thing is that when looking
    > at the user accounts on the hard drive the account I seem to be using
    > is called 'Gene_2' instead of 'Gene'. There is a User called Gene
    > present under users but I am unable to access it when logged in as I
    > do under the Gene account.
    >
    > The other computer also has Windows 7 but Pro version and it's 64 bit
    > and it has the same exact issue, I had created a user called Gene
    > during setup and that's what shows up at log in time but I seem to be
    > running under a user name of gene_2 instead.
    >
    > I can find nothing anywhere regarding this issue and what's going on.
    > Anyone have any help for me?
    >
    > Thanks,
    > Gene


    Gene

    The reply Seth gave you is pretty well right on the mark.

    I have seen similar with XP installs in the past where a User folder with
    the name you want to use already exists.
    Windows installer automatically adds a suffix to differentiate your new
    account of the same name from the existing one.
    eg in XP if 'Gene' already existed as a folder under Documents and Settings,
    Windows would create a folder 'Gene.win' but present the user name 'Gene' at
    logon.
    Note this is during a Windows install, adding a user through the control
    panel once Windows is installed will normally give a 'name exists' error.

    This suffix addition could also be extended to include the Administrator
    (Administrator.win) and other default folders under Documents and Settings
    when you reinstalled Windows over the top of an existing install.
    On a PC that had many reinstalls of Windows without wiping the hard drive
    first you could see many Administrator folders in Documents and Settings
    each with a different suffix.
    (also Windows, Windows.000, Windows.001 etc)
    You didn't by any chance restart the install part way through, or didn't
    wipe the previous version of Windows?

    This difference between the displayed name and folder name can also be
    demonstrated by going into Control Panel, User Accounts and changing the
    name of your 'Gene' account.
    Try something like 'Fred' then try Seth's 'set user' CMD trick and you will
    see the user name is now Fred but the user folder is still 'Gene_2'
    Changing the logon name only changes the displayed name, not the underlying
    user folder.
    You can only create a new folder (eg Bill) by adding a new user account.

    The original 'Gene' folder BTW is in limbo and you can delete it after
    removing any data to a safe place.
    Then rename your logon name from Gene to (say) Fred for the user folder
    Gene-2 reboot and logon with Fred.
    You should now be able to add a new User account of 'Gene' which will have a
    user folder name of 'Gene'
    To change over to the new 'Gene' just move your data and recreate your email
    accounts etc, reboot into the new 'Gene' and you can delete the old Fred
    (Gene_2) account choosing the delete files option to clean out the user
    folder as well.


    Best
    Paul.
     
  9. someone@anywhere.com

    someone@anywhere.com Flightless Bird

    On Mon, 24 May 2010 19:56:33 +1200, "PeeCee" <abuse@local.host> wrote:

    >
    ><someone@anywhere.com> wrote in message
    >news:n5ngv5p09gk12nvvsdfs0797ouleis3u9q@4ax.com...
    >> I have two computers, I just a few weeks ago installed Windows Home
    >> Pre 32 bit on one of them, all went well and so far, other than a
    >> couple strange things I'm happy.
    >>
    >> When I installed I created a user 'Gene' running as a normal user, not
    >> admin. So at log in I see my Admin account and also my Gene account
    >> and I most often run as Gene. The strange thing is that when looking
    >> at the user accounts on the hard drive the account I seem to be using
    >> is called 'Gene_2' instead of 'Gene'. There is a User called Gene
    >> present under users but I am unable to access it when logged in as I
    >> do under the Gene account.
    >>
    >> The other computer also has Windows 7 but Pro version and it's 64 bit
    >> and it has the same exact issue, I had created a user called Gene
    >> during setup and that's what shows up at log in time but I seem to be
    >> running under a user name of gene_2 instead.
    >>
    >> I can find nothing anywhere regarding this issue and what's going on.
    >> Anyone have any help for me?
    >>
    >> Thanks,
    >> Gene

    >
    >Gene
    >
    >The reply Seth gave you is pretty well right on the mark.
    >
    >I have seen similar with XP installs in the past where a User folder with
    >the name you want to use already exists.
    >Windows installer automatically adds a suffix to differentiate your new
    >account of the same name from the existing one.
    >eg in XP if 'Gene' already existed as a folder under Documents and Settings,
    >Windows would create a folder 'Gene.win' but present the user name 'Gene' at
    >logon.
    >Note this is during a Windows install, adding a user through the control
    >panel once Windows is installed will normally give a 'name exists' error.
    >
    >This suffix addition could also be extended to include the Administrator
    >(Administrator.win) and other default folders under Documents and Settings
    >when you reinstalled Windows over the top of an existing install.
    >On a PC that had many reinstalls of Windows without wiping the hard drive
    >first you could see many Administrator folders in Documents and Settings
    >each with a different suffix.
    >(also Windows, Windows.000, Windows.001 etc)
    >You didn't by any chance restart the install part way through, or didn't
    >wipe the previous version of Windows?
    >
    >This difference between the displayed name and folder name can also be
    >demonstrated by going into Control Panel, User Accounts and changing the
    >name of your 'Gene' account.
    >Try something like 'Fred' then try Seth's 'set user' CMD trick and you will
    >see the user name is now Fred but the user folder is still 'Gene_2'
    >Changing the logon name only changes the displayed name, not the underlying
    >user folder.
    >You can only create a new folder (eg Bill) by adding a new user account.
    >
    >The original 'Gene' folder BTW is in limbo and you can delete it after
    >removing any data to a safe place.
    >Then rename your logon name from Gene to (say) Fred for the user folder
    >Gene-2 reboot and logon with Fred.
    >You should now be able to add a new User account of 'Gene' which will have a
    >user folder name of 'Gene'
    >To change over to the new 'Gene' just move your data and recreate your email
    >accounts etc, reboot into the new 'Gene' and you can delete the old Fred
    >(Gene_2) account choosing the delete files option to clean out the user
    >folder as well.
    >
    >
    >Best
    >Paul.


    Seems that you guys are correct, that Admin account is named gene. The
    account that I created as regular user is called gene_2. I tested last
    night, logged in as admin and I can access the stuff in and under the
    gene account without problems. That account folder, gene, also has a
    little lock symbol by it I notice. It must have been during install
    when it created the default admin account, that gene name must have
    been input by me or picked up from somewhere else.

    I guess I'll just leave it alone as it's only an issue when looking
    under the users folder at that structure.

    I surely thank you all for your input - I appreciate the help and I
    still think windows 7 is the best so far.

    Gene and gene_2
     

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