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HD cloned

Discussion in 'Windows XP' started by il barbi, Jun 2, 2010.

  1. il barbi

    il barbi Flightless Bird

    I substituted my HD from a 160 GB Hitachi to a 640 GB WD, I made a disk-to
    disk copy by means of HDclone free edition, at the end it had resized
    authomatically the partitions, namely on the new HD the dimensions of the
    partitions are proportional to the corresponding ones on the old HD.
    Now on the old HD there was:
    C: NTFS, 110 GB+32 GB free space
    D: FAT32, recovery partition, 5,27 GB + 1GB free space
    and on the new HD I find:
    C: NTFS, 330 GB+241 GB free space
    D: FAT32, recovery partition, 5,27 GB + 18,5GB free space
    I checked C and by summing up the occupation of the first level directories
    I still find 110 GB, where are the extra 220 GB?
    il barbi
     
  2. Pegasus [MVP]

    Pegasus [MVP] Flightless Bird

    "il barbi" <angeabcd.barbefgh@ngi.it> wrote in message
    news:u95961nALHA.3880@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
    > I substituted my HD from a 160 GB Hitachi to a 640 GB WD, I made a disk-to
    > disk copy by means of HDclone free edition, at the end it had resized
    > authomatically the partitions, namely on the new HD the dimensions of the
    > partitions are proportional to the corresponding ones on the old HD.
    > Now on the old HD there was:
    > C: NTFS, 110 GB+32 GB free space
    > D: FAT32, recovery partition, 5,27 GB + 1GB free space
    > and on the new HD I find:
    > C: NTFS, 330 GB+241 GB free space
    > D: FAT32, recovery partition, 5,27 GB + 18,5GB free space
    > I checked C and by summing up the occupation of the first level
    > directories I still find 110 GB, where are the extra 220 GB?
    > il barbi
    >


    Run diskmgmt.msc. It will probably tell you everything you need to know.
     
  3. Mike S

    Mike S Flightless Bird

    On 6/2/2010 11:29 AM, Pegasus [MVP] wrote:
    >
    >
    >
    > "il barbi" <angeabcd.barbefgh@ngi.it> wrote in message
    > news:u95961nALHA.3880@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
    >> I substituted my HD from a 160 GB Hitachi to a 640 GB WD, I made a
    >> disk-to disk copy by means of HDclone free edition, at the end it had
    >> resized authomatically the partitions, namely on the new HD the
    >> dimensions of the partitions are proportional to the corresponding
    >> ones on the old HD.
    >> Now on the old HD there was:
    >> C: NTFS, 110 GB+32 GB free space
    >> D: FAT32, recovery partition, 5,27 GB + 1GB free space
    >> and on the new HD I find:
    >> C: NTFS, 330 GB+241 GB free space
    >> D: FAT32, recovery partition, 5,27 GB + 18,5GB free space
    >> I checked C and by summing up the occupation of the first level
    >> directories I still find 110 GB, where are the extra 220 GB?
    >> il barbi
    >>

    >
    > Run diskmgmt.msc. It will probably tell you everything you need to know.


    If you want a visual tool easeus partition manager free version works
    great. I just used their free disk copy/clone program, then used the
    partition manager to manage the partition size, since the distination
    drive was larger than the source drive, and the disk copy program didn't
    handle the partitions automatically. Using both got the disk working
    perfectly. If your partitions aren't copied correctly you might want to
    take a look at the easus programs, they work great.
     
  4. Don Phillipson

    Don Phillipson Flightless Bird

    >
    > "il barbi" <angeabcd.barbefgh@ngi.it> wrote in message
    > news:u95961nALHA.3880@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
    > > I substituted my HD from a 160 GB Hitachi to a 640 GB WD, I made a

    disk-to
    > > disk copy by means of HDclone free edition . . .
    > > C: NTFS, 330 GB+241 GB free space
    > > D: FAT32, recovery partition, 5,27 GB + 18,5GB free space
    > > I checked C and by summing up the occupation of the first level
    > > directories I still find 110 GB, where are the extra 220 GB?
    > > il barbi


    "Pegasus [MVP]" <news@microsoft.com> wrote in message
    news:uAooFGoALHA.4920@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

    > Run diskmgmt.msc. It will probably tell you everything you need to know.


    The common sense answer is that your HDClone software probably
    copies existing drives but does nothing to create a new drive E: with the
    rest of the available space. WinXP Disk Management will tell you.

    --
    Don Phillipson
    Carlsbad Springs
    (Ottawa, Canada)
     
  5. il barbi

    il barbi Flightless Bird

    "Pegasus [MVP]" <news@microsoft.com> ha scritto nel messaggio
    news:uAooFGoALHA.4920@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
    >
    >
    > "il barbi" <angeabcd.barbefgh@ngi.it> wrote in message
    > news:u95961nALHA.3880@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
    >> I substituted my HD from a 160 GB Hitachi to a 640 GB WD, I made a
    >> disk-to disk copy by means of HDclone free edition, at the end it had
    >> resized authomatically the partitions, namely on the new HD the
    >> dimensions of the partitions are proportional to the corresponding ones
    >> on the old HD.
    >> Now on the old HD there was:
    >> C: NTFS, 110 GB+32 GB free space
    >> D: FAT32, recovery partition, 5,27 GB + 1GB free space
    >> and on the new HD I find:
    >> C: NTFS, 330 GB+241 GB free space
    >> D: FAT32, recovery partition, 5,27 GB + 18,5GB free space
    >> I checked C and by summing up the occupation of the first level
    >> directories I still find 110 GB, where are the extra 220 GB?
    >> il barbi
    >>

    >
    > Run diskmgmt.msc. It will probably tell you everything you need to know.

    unfortunately it didn't, it tells the same I already know namely: C - size
    588 GB, free space 268 GB
    il barbi
     
  6. il barbi

    il barbi Flightless Bird

    "Don Phillipson" <e925@SPAMBLOCK.ncf.ca> ha scritto nel messaggio
    news:%23WIqnlqALHA.5464@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
    > >
    >> "il barbi" <angeabcd.barbefgh@ngi.it> wrote in message
    >> news:u95961nALHA.3880@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
    >> > I substituted my HD from a 160 GB Hitachi to a 640 GB WD, I made a

    > disk-to
    >> > disk copy by means of HDclone free edition . . .
    >> > C: NTFS, 330 GB+241 GB free space
    >> > D: FAT32, recovery partition, 5,27 GB + 18,5GB free space
    >> > I checked C and by summing up the occupation of the first level
    >> > directories I still find 110 GB, where are the extra 220 GB?
    >> > il barbi

    >
    > "Pegasus [MVP]" <news@microsoft.com> wrote in message
    > news:uAooFGoALHA.4920@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
    >
    >> Run diskmgmt.msc. It will probably tell you everything you need to know.

    >
    > The common sense answer is that your HDClone software probably
    > copies existing drives but does nothing to create a new drive E: with the
    > rest of the available space. WinXP Disk Management will tell you.
    >

    HDclone free edition assigns to partitions sizes proportional to the old
    ones, so no free space is left alone, all of the disk space is assigned to C
    and D
    il barbi
     
  7. Pegasus [MVP]

    Pegasus [MVP] Flightless Bird

    "il barbi" <angeabcd.barbefgh@ngi.it> wrote in message
    news:evxjpy0ALHA.980@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
    > "Pegasus [MVP]" <news@microsoft.com> ha scritto nel messaggio
    > news:uAooFGoALHA.4920@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
    >>
    >>
    >> "il barbi" <angeabcd.barbefgh@ngi.it> wrote in message
    >> news:u95961nALHA.3880@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
    >>> I substituted my HD from a 160 GB Hitachi to a 640 GB WD, I made a
    >>> disk-to disk copy by means of HDclone free edition, at the end it had
    >>> resized authomatically the partitions, namely on the new HD the
    >>> dimensions of the partitions are proportional to the corresponding ones
    >>> on the old HD.
    >>> Now on the old HD there was:
    >>> C: NTFS, 110 GB+32 GB free space
    >>> D: FAT32, recovery partition, 5,27 GB + 1GB free space
    >>> and on the new HD I find:
    >>> C: NTFS, 330 GB+241 GB free space
    >>> D: FAT32, recovery partition, 5,27 GB + 18,5GB free space
    >>> I checked C and by summing up the occupation of the first level
    >>> directories I still find 110 GB, where are the extra 220 GB?
    >>> il barbi
    >>>

    >>
    >> Run diskmgmt.msc. It will probably tell you everything you need to know.

    > unfortunately it didn't, it tells the same I already know namely: C - size
    > 588 GB, free space 268 GB
    > il barbi


    I confess that I do not really understand your reporting format. You write
    Now on the old HD there was:
    C: NTFS, 110 GB+32 GB free space
    which could mean just about anything. Is 110 GBytes the partition size or
    the amount of used space? I suggest you adopt a format like this one in
    order to avoid all ambiguity:

    Old disk
    ======
    Partition C: Size=x, Used=y, Free=z
    Partition D: Size=r, Used=s, Free=t
    Unallocated partition: Size=xxx
    (numbers as reported by diskmgmt.msc)

    Same for the new disk.

    Did you remember to run chkdsk /F on all partitions of the new disk?
     
  8. Mike S

    Mike S Flightless Bird

    On 6/3/2010 11:49 AM, il barbi wrote:
    > "Don Phillipson"<e925@SPAMBLOCK.ncf.ca> ha scritto nel messaggio
    > news:%23WIqnlqALHA.5464@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
    >>>
    >>> "il barbi"<angeabcd.barbefgh@ngi.it> wrote in message
    >>> news:u95961nALHA.3880@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
    >>>> I substituted my HD from a 160 GB Hitachi to a 640 GB WD, I made a

    >> disk-to
    >>>> disk copy by means of HDclone free edition . . .
    >>>> C: NTFS, 330 GB+241 GB free space
    >>>> D: FAT32, recovery partition, 5,27 GB + 18,5GB free space
    >>>> I checked C and by summing up the occupation of the first level
    >>>> directories I still find 110 GB, where are the extra 220 GB?
    >>>> il barbi

    >>
    >> "Pegasus [MVP]"<news@microsoft.com> wrote in message
    >> news:uAooFGoALHA.4920@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
    >>
    >>> Run diskmgmt.msc. It will probably tell you everything you need to know.

    >>
    >> The common sense answer is that your HDClone software probably
    >> copies existing drives but does nothing to create a new drive E: with the
    >> rest of the available space. WinXP Disk Management will tell you.
    >>

    > HDclone free edition assigns to partitions sizes proportional to the old
    > ones, so no free space is left alone, all of the disk space is assigned to C
    > and D
    > il barbi


    Did you look at Eaesus Partition manager, also freeware, to set the
    partitions up the way you want? It's very easy to resize them.

    Mike
     
  9. il barbi

    il barbi Flightless Bird

    "Pegasus [MVP]" <news@microsoft.com> ha scritto nel messaggio
    news:%23Xx0dx2ALHA.4308@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
    >
    > I confess that I do not really understand your reporting format. You write
    > Now on the old HD there was:
    > C: NTFS, 110 GB+32 GB free space
    > which could mean just about anything. Is 110 GBytes the partition size or
    > the amount of used space? I suggest you adopt a format like this one in
    > order to avoid all ambiguity:
    >
    > Old disk
    > ======
    > Partition C: Size=x, Used=y, Free=z
    > Partition D: Size=r, Used=s, Free=t
    > Unallocated partition: Size=xxx
    > (numbers as reported by diskmgmt.msc)
    >
    > Same for the new disk.
    >
    > Did you remember to run chkdsk /F on all partitions of the new disk?
    >

    ok (there is some difference with respect of the data I reported because I
    quoted billions of bytes instead of G8)
    Old disk:
    Partition C: Size=142, Used=110, Free=32
    Partition D: Size=6,27, Used=5,27, Free=1
    No unallocated partition
    New disk:
    Partition C: Size=571, Used=330, Free=241
    Partition D: Size=23,77, Used=5,27, Free=18,5
    No unallocated partition
    This is what I also see after rightclicking on C and D in the File
    Manager. Instead if I select all files and directories in C and see
    "properties" I get the same result both on old and new HD:
    files 148665, directories 13370, total size 110 GB
    now the problem is this difference between 110 GB and 330 GB on the new HD,
    namely these 220 GB that seem to be occupied
    I also ran defrag and scandisk reports all is ok
    il barbi
     
  10. Pegasus [MVP]

    Pegasus [MVP] Flightless Bird

    "il barbi" <angeabcd.barbefgh@ngi.it> wrote in message
    news:-OtN4INKBLHA.6116@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
    > "Pegasus [MVP]" <news@microsoft.com> ha scritto nel messaggio
    > news:%23Xx0dx2ALHA.4308@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
    >>
    >> I confess that I do not really understand your reporting format. You
    >> write
    >> Now on the old HD there was:
    >> C: NTFS, 110 GB+32 GB free space
    >> which could mean just about anything. Is 110 GBytes the partition size or
    >> the amount of used space? I suggest you adopt a format like this one in
    >> order to avoid all ambiguity:
    >>
    >> Old disk
    >> ======
    >> Partition C: Size=x, Used=y, Free=z
    >> Partition D: Size=r, Used=s, Free=t
    >> Unallocated partition: Size=xxx
    >> (numbers as reported by diskmgmt.msc)
    >>
    >> Same for the new disk.
    >>
    >> Did you remember to run chkdsk /F on all partitions of the new disk?
    >>

    > ok (there is some difference with respect of the data I reported because I
    > quoted billions of bytes instead of G8)
    > Old disk:
    > Partition C: Size=142, Used=110, Free=32
    > Partition D: Size=6,27, Used=5,27, Free=1
    > No unallocated partition
    > New disk:
    > Partition C: Size=571, Used=330, Free=241
    > Partition D: Size=23,77, Used=5,27, Free=18,5
    > No unallocated partition
    > This is what I also see after rightclicking on C and D in the File
    > Manager. Instead if I select all files and directories in C and see
    > "properties" I get the same result both on old and new HD:
    > files 148665, directories 13370, total size 110 GB
    > now the problem is this difference between 110 GB and 330 GB on the new
    > HD, namely these 220 GB that seem to be occupied
    > I also ran defrag and scandisk reports all is ok
    > il barbi


    I thought that "billions" is much the same as "GBytes" . . .

    The difference you observe could be due to two reasons:
    a) System Restore. Turn it off, then check if the numers change.
    b) Some third-party background "save" or "go back" utility.

    Note also that defragging a partition will never gain you any space. It
    merely re-arranges the various fragments that make up your files.
     

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