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Has anyone used Windows 7?

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Mark A. Sam

Flightless Bird
Hello,

I am considering a new machine and can get it with XP installed, but want to
try Windows 7. I have heard good reports about it. Is anyone using it and
can comment about it?

Thank you and God Bless,

Mark A. Sam
 
R

R. McCarty

Flightless Bird
7 is fine. A well thought out, highly polished OS. If you're willing to
use and adapt to some minor changes ( new Taskbar ) you'll quickly
come to like using it.
If XP compatibility is one of your concerns you can get Professional
or Ultimate and it comes with XP mode. ( Virtualized XP ).

"Mark A. Sam" <MarkASam@EmEssEn.Com> wrote in message
news:uF3cUyFvKHA.5008@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Hello,
>
> I am considering a new machine and can get it with XP installed, but want
> to try Windows 7. I have heard good reports about it. Is anyone using it
> and can comment about it?
>
> Thank you and God Bless,
>
> Mark A. Sam
>
 
R

Rhino

Flightless Bird
"Mark A. Sam" <MarkASam@EmEssEn.Com> wrote in message
news:uF3cUyFvKHA.5008@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Hello,
>
> I am considering a new machine and can get it with XP installed, but want
> to try Windows 7. I have heard good reports about it. Is anyone using it
> and can comment about it?
>


I don't have Windows 7 on my own computer but I was on a lot of customer
computers on my last job, which ended recently, doing tech support. A good
number of those customers had Windows 7 and we found it quite easy to work
with. Whereas Vista was a pain in the rear for at least the first year due
to any number of problems, Windows 7 seemed to work very well from the very
beginning. Apparently, there was a large beta program for Windows 7 and I
suspect that has made all the difference; all the major bugs were found -
and fixed - BEFORE they released it to the general public.

I don't want to guarantee you a trouble-free experience - computers are just
too complex and there are too many variations in hardware to hope for that -
but you should have a lot less trouble than most Vista users did with
Windows 7.

--
Rhino
 
M

Mark A. Sam

Flightless Bird
Thank you for your responses. I'm kind of excited to try it. I know about
Vista. Uggh. What a dog. My client is purchasing a Mac and I'll be
configuring that with Windows7. I'm looking forward to that also, as I have
no experience with a Mac.



"Mark A. Sam" <MarkASam@EmEssEn.Com> wrote in message
news:uF3cUyFvKHA.5008@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Hello,
>
> I am considering a new machine and can get it with XP installed, but want
> to try Windows 7. I have heard good reports about it. Is anyone using it
> and can comment about it?
>
> Thank you and God Bless,
>
> Mark A. Sam
>
 
S

smlunatick

Flightless Bird
On Mar 5, 12:14 pm, "R. McCarty" <PcEngWork-NoSp...@mindspring.com>
wrote:
>  7 is fine. A well thought out, highly polished OS. If you're willing to
> use and adapt to some minor changes ( new Taskbar ) you'll quickly
> come to like using it.
>  If XP compatibility is one of your concerns you can get Professional
> or Ultimate and it comes with XP mode. ( Virtualized XP ).
>
> "Mark A. Sam" <MarkA...@EmEssEn.Com> wrote in messagenews:uF3cUyFvKHA.5008@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>
> > Hello,

>
> > I am considering a new machine and can get it with XP installed, but want
> > to try Windows 7.  I have heard good reports about it.  Is anyone using it
> > and can comment about it?

>
> > Thank you and God Bless,

>
> > Mark A. Sam


Consider Professional as the better choice. Ultimate mainly offers
BitLocker and the additional GUI languages. For me, not the worth the
price. (I have it.)
 
K

Ken Blake, MVP

Flightless Bird
On Fri, 5 Mar 2010 07:08:01 -0500, "Mark A. Sam"
<MarkASam@EmEssEn.Com> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I am considering a new machine and can get it with XP installed, but want to
> try Windows 7. I have heard good reports about it. Is anyone using it and
> can comment about it?




I've been using the released version since it first came out, and the
Release Candidate before that. I like it very much. As with almost all
versions of Windows, it is better than its predecessors.

Here are my views; three points below:

1. If you were asking about upgrading, I would give you my standard
answer, as follows:

A change of operating system should be driven by need, not just
because there is a new version available. Are you having a problem
with Windows XP that you expect Windows 7 to solve? Do you have or
expect to get new hardware or software that is supported in Windows 7,
but not in XP? Is there some new feature in Windows 7 that you need or
yearn for? Does your job require you have skills in Windows 7? Are you
a computer hobbyist who enjoys playing with whatever is newest?

If the answer to one or more of those questions is yes (and your
hardware is adequate for Windows 7), then you should get Windows 7.
Otherwise most people should stick with what they have. There is
*always* a learning curve and a potential for problems when you take a
step as big as this one, regardless of how wonderful whatever you're
contemplating moving to is. Sooner or later you'll have to upgrade (to
Windows 7 or its successor) because you'll want support for hardware
or software that you can't get in XP, but don't rush it.

I say all the above despite the fact that I'm a big Windows 7 fan. I
think it's the best and most stable of all versions of Windows.

2. But since you are talking about getting a new computer, I strongly
recommend getting it with Windows 7. It hardly ever makes sense to
take a step backward by getting a new computer with an old version of
an operating system.

3. Be aware that as with any new operating system, there are
differences from what you are accustomed to. Differences will take you
some time to get accustomed to, and for many people differences cause
them frustration. So be prepared for some initial frustration, but
give yourself enough time to adapt to the differences, rather than
throwing about the new Windows 7 because you haven't yet learned
enough about it.


--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003
Please Reply to the Newsgroup
 
K

Ken Blake, MVP

Flightless Bird
On Fri, 5 Mar 2010 09:14:04 -0500, "Mark A. Sam"
<MarkASam@EmEssEn.Com> wrote:

> Thank you for your responses. I'm kind of excited to try it. I know about
> Vista. Uggh. What a dog.



I completely disagree. I think Vista was better than XP, and I think
Windows 7 is better than Vista. As I said in my earlier message in
this thread, almost every version of Windows is better than the ones
that came before it.


> My client is purchasing a Mac and I'll be
> configuring that with Windows7. I'm looking forward to that also, as I have
> no experience with a Mac.



Be aware that I know next to nothing about the Macintosh, but let me
make just one comment: a Macintosh invariably costs substantially more
than an equivalent Windows machine. Although I personally wouldn't buy
a Macintosh, I can understand why somebody would want to if they
prefer the Macintosh software. But it makes no sense to me to pay the
extra money for a Macintosh if you are going to run the Windows
software on it.

--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003
Please Reply to the Newsgroup
 
M

Mark A. Sam

Flightless Bird
You must know how to configure it or maybe it was the version I used. On
two machines they are Home Edition, and another I upgraded to Ultimate. But
they are really slow loading, that is my biggest gripe.


"Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in message
news:hr72p5hmjb9ijojt1lthbgq6s6plojcr3o@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 5 Mar 2010 09:14:04 -0500, "Mark A. Sam"
> <MarkASam@EmEssEn.Com> wrote:
>
>> Thank you for your responses. I'm kind of excited to try it. I know
>> about
>> Vista. Uggh. What a dog.

>
>
> I completely disagree. I think Vista was better than XP, and I think
> Windows 7 is better than Vista. As I said in my earlier message in
> this thread, almost every version of Windows is better than the ones
> that came before it.
>
>
>> My client is purchasing a Mac and I'll be
>> configuring that with Windows7. I'm looking forward to that also, as I
>> have
>> no experience with a Mac.

>
>
> Be aware that I know next to nothing about the Macintosh, but let me
> make just one comment: a Macintosh invariably costs substantially more
> than an equivalent Windows machine. Although I personally wouldn't buy
> a Macintosh, I can understand why somebody would want to if they
> prefer the Macintosh software. But it makes no sense to me to pay the
> extra money for a Macintosh if you are going to run the Windows
> software on it.
>
> --
> Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003
> Please Reply to the Newsgroup
 
M

Mark A. Sam

Flightless Bird
I believe you. I am excited about trying Win7.

"Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in message
news:u272p5lhie8kcptr43dq88vd1eg4djc20e@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 5 Mar 2010 07:08:01 -0500, "Mark A. Sam"
> <MarkASam@EmEssEn.Com> wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I am considering a new machine and can get it with XP installed, but want
>> to
>> try Windows 7. I have heard good reports about it. Is anyone using it
>> and
>> can comment about it?

>
>
>
> I've been using the released version since it first came out, and the
> Release Candidate before that. I like it very much. As with almost all
> versions of Windows, it is better than its predecessors.
>
> Here are my views; three points below:
>
> 1. If you were asking about upgrading, I would give you my standard
> answer, as follows:
>
> A change of operating system should be driven by need, not just
> because there is a new version available. Are you having a problem
> with Windows XP that you expect Windows 7 to solve? Do you have or
> expect to get new hardware or software that is supported in Windows 7,
> but not in XP? Is there some new feature in Windows 7 that you need or
> yearn for? Does your job require you have skills in Windows 7? Are you
> a computer hobbyist who enjoys playing with whatever is newest?
>
> If the answer to one or more of those questions is yes (and your
> hardware is adequate for Windows 7), then you should get Windows 7.
> Otherwise most people should stick with what they have. There is
> *always* a learning curve and a potential for problems when you take a
> step as big as this one, regardless of how wonderful whatever you're
> contemplating moving to is. Sooner or later you'll have to upgrade (to
> Windows 7 or its successor) because you'll want support for hardware
> or software that you can't get in XP, but don't rush it.
>
> I say all the above despite the fact that I'm a big Windows 7 fan. I
> think it's the best and most stable of all versions of Windows.
>
> 2. But since you are talking about getting a new computer, I strongly
> recommend getting it with Windows 7. It hardly ever makes sense to
> take a step backward by getting a new computer with an old version of
> an operating system.
>
> 3. Be aware that as with any new operating system, there are
> differences from what you are accustomed to. Differences will take you
> some time to get accustomed to, and for many people differences cause
> them frustration. So be prepared for some initial frustration, but
> give yourself enough time to adapt to the differences, rather than
> throwing about the new Windows 7 because you haven't yet learned
> enough about it.
>
>
> --
> Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003
> Please Reply to the Newsgroup
 
K

Ken Blake, MVP

Flightless Bird
On Fri, 5 Mar 2010 10:34:13 -0500, "Mark A. Sam"
<MarkASam@EmEssEn.Com> wrote:

> I believe you. I am excited about trying Win7.



Good, glad to hear it. But please pay attention to point 3 below. I
suspect that your dislike of Vista was largely because you didn't
"give yourself enough time to adapt to the differences."


> "Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in message
> news:u272p5lhie8kcptr43dq88vd1eg4djc20e@4ax.com...
> > On Fri, 5 Mar 2010 07:08:01 -0500, "Mark A. Sam"
> > <MarkASam@EmEssEn.Com> wrote:
> >
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> I am considering a new machine and can get it with XP installed, but want
> >> to
> >> try Windows 7. I have heard good reports about it. Is anyone using it
> >> and
> >> can comment about it?

> >
> >
> >
> > I've been using the released version since it first came out, and the
> > Release Candidate before that. I like it very much. As with almost all
> > versions of Windows, it is better than its predecessors.
> >
> > Here are my views; three points below:
> >
> > 1. If you were asking about upgrading, I would give you my standard
> > answer, as follows:
> >
> > A change of operating system should be driven by need, not just
> > because there is a new version available. Are you having a problem
> > with Windows XP that you expect Windows 7 to solve? Do you have or
> > expect to get new hardware or software that is supported in Windows 7,
> > but not in XP? Is there some new feature in Windows 7 that you need or
> > yearn for? Does your job require you have skills in Windows 7? Are you
> > a computer hobbyist who enjoys playing with whatever is newest?
> >
> > If the answer to one or more of those questions is yes (and your
> > hardware is adequate for Windows 7), then you should get Windows 7.
> > Otherwise most people should stick with what they have. There is
> > *always* a learning curve and a potential for problems when you take a
> > step as big as this one, regardless of how wonderful whatever you're
> > contemplating moving to is. Sooner or later you'll have to upgrade (to
> > Windows 7 or its successor) because you'll want support for hardware
> > or software that you can't get in XP, but don't rush it.
> >
> > I say all the above despite the fact that I'm a big Windows 7 fan. I
> > think it's the best and most stable of all versions of Windows.
> >
> > 2. But since you are talking about getting a new computer, I strongly
> > recommend getting it with Windows 7. It hardly ever makes sense to
> > take a step backward by getting a new computer with an old version of
> > an operating system.
> >
> > 3. Be aware that as with any new operating system, there are
> > differences from what you are accustomed to. Differences will take you
> > some time to get accustomed to, and for many people differences cause
> > them frustration. So be prepared for some initial frustration, but
> > give yourself enough time to adapt to the differences, rather than
> > throwing about the new Windows 7 because you haven't yet learned
> > enough about it.
> >
> >
> > --
> > Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003
> > Please Reply to the Newsgroup

>


--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003
Please Reply to the Newsgroup
 
N

Nil

Flightless Bird
On 05 Mar 2010, "Mark A. Sam" <MarkASam@EmEssEn.Com> wrote in
microsoft.public.windowsxp.general:

> Thank you for your responses. I'm kind of excited to try it. I
> know about Vista. Uggh. What a dog.


I have computers running XP, Vista, and Windows 7. I have no great
problems with Vista - it works just fine for me. Win 7 is more like
Vista than XP If you truly hate Vista as you say, you might not like
Win 7 either.
 
M

Mark A. Sam

Flightless Bird
No, it is simply because Vista was very slow. I'm currently taking on
Dreamweaver, Flash, and soon Apple, which are all strangers to me.
Everything in the past was Microsoft. So adapting isn't the issue.

>
> Good, glad to hear it. But please pay attention to point 3 below. I
> suspect that your dislike of Vista was largely because you didn't
> "give yourself enough time to adapt to the differences."
>
 
K

Ken Blake, MVP

Flightless Bird
On Fri, 5 Mar 2010 12:07:36 -0500, "Mark A. Sam"
<MarkASam@EmEssEn.Com> wrote:


> No, it is simply because Vista was very slow.



No, it isn't. Undoubtedly you are ascribing to Vista what should be
blamed on one or both of the following:

1. Your hardware was inadequate for Vista. For example, you might not
have had enough RAM for the applications you ran under Vista.

2. You were infected with malware.



> I'm currently taking on
> Dreamweaver, Flash, and soon Apple, which are all strangers to me.
> Everything in the past was Microsoft. So adapting isn't the issue.
>
> >
> > Good, glad to hear it. But please pay attention to point 3 below. I
> > suspect that your dislike of Vista was largely because you didn't
> > "give yourself enough time to adapt to the differences."
> >

>


--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003
Please Reply to the Newsgroup
 
M

Mark A. Sam

Flightless Bird
I don't know the RAM, but they were all new machines with Home Edition. One
I updated to Ultimate so it could join a domain. A friend told me that his
ran well after he configured it. But I had heard a lot of people complain
of sluggishness. It doesn't matter, since it is off the market.




"Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in message
news:4dj2p51hbvn3gbotcgg239diiodrgn2es1@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 5 Mar 2010 12:07:36 -0500, "Mark A. Sam"
> <MarkASam@EmEssEn.Com> wrote:
>
>
>> No, it is simply because Vista was very slow.

>
>
> No, it isn't. Undoubtedly you are ascribing to Vista what should be
> blamed on one or both of the following:
>
> 1. Your hardware was inadequate for Vista. For example, you might not
> have had enough RAM for the applications you ran under Vista.
>
> 2. You were infected with malware.
>
>
>
>> I'm currently taking on
>> Dreamweaver, Flash, and soon Apple, which are all strangers to me.
>> Everything in the past was Microsoft. So adapting isn't the issue.
>>
>> >
>> > Good, glad to hear it. But please pay attention to point 3 below. I
>> > suspect that your dislike of Vista was largely because you didn't
>> > "give yourself enough time to adapt to the differences."
>> >

>>

>
> --
> Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003
> Please Reply to the Newsgroup
 
L

Leythos

Flightless Bird
In article <uF3cUyFvKHA.5008@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>, MarkASam@EmEssEn.Com
says...
>
> Hello,
>
> I am considering a new machine and can get it with XP installed, but want to
> try Windows 7. I have heard good reports about it. Is anyone using it and
> can comment about it?


I have Win 7 Ultimate and Professional running on hundreds of NEW
computers and dozens of older computers.

Win 7 is slower than XP, but we expect that, it's always been that way
with MS.

Win 7 seems to be very stable, like XP is.

Win 7 needs a good performing graphics card, one with at least 256MB of
dedicated memory, not that shared memory crap found in cheap computers.
If you can get a quality 512MB card your video performance will be
better.

Win 7 needs at least 2GB ram for basic operation with MS Office. I
normally spec NEW machines with 4GB and purchase the x64 bit version for
Core 2 Duo machines as a min.

On older machines, that were running XP, Win 7 seems to be a leap ahead
of Vista.

Expect your machine to be slower than on XP, and make sure that your old
XP machine has at least 1GB RAM if you want to start playing with Win 7,
upgrade to 2-4GB if you plan on keeping Win 7 on that told machine.

--
You can't trust your best friends, your five senses, only the little
voice inside you that most civilians don't even hear -- Listen to that.
Trust yourself.
spam999free@rrohio.com (remove 999 for proper email address)
 
A

apistomaster(nospam)

Flightless Bird
I just bought a Sony Vaio NW and a $1000 build of a Dell Studio 17
laptop and am going from only experience with XP except the one Vista
Laptop I helped a friend set up, And there are new ways of doing thing
to learn but I find I do like my Windows Home Premium a lot.
Both are 64 bit versions and have 4 gb RAM.
 
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