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Good registry cleaner?

Discussion in 'Windows XP' started by Rhino, Mar 5, 2010.

  1. Rhino

    Rhino Flightless Bird

    Can someone knowledgeable please tell me more about registry cleaners. I
    know that some people think of them as cure-alls for their Windows problems
    and I'm sure they have their place but I don't want to just grab one at
    random and hope for the best without knowing more about them.

    First of all, what exactly do they do? I understand that they remove bad
    registry keys but how do they determine which keys are bad? How accurate are
    they at determining which keys are bad? How often do they fail to fix bad
    keys? How often do they mistake good keys for bad ones and then remove those
    good keys? Do they simply delete all keys that they determine are bad or do
    they have the ability to repair bad keys? How accurate are the repairs? Can
    I rely on them or do the repairs often make the problem worse, not better?

    What are the symptoms that should encourage you to use a registry cleaner?
    And, conversely, when should you NOT use one? I don't want to start using
    them for situations where they will not help or will make a problem worse.

    Also, can anyone recommend a good registry cleaner? I've seen a lot of ads
    for registry cleaners but some of them felt a bit dodgy. I don't want to
    click on registry cleaner and then find that I've only downloaded spyware
    (or worse).

    --
    Rhino
     
  2. John John - MVP

    John John - MVP Flightless Bird

    Rhino wrote:
    > Can someone knowledgeable please tell me more about registry cleaners. I
    > know that some people think of them as cure-alls for their Windows problems
    > and I'm sure they have their place but I don't want to just grab one at
    > random and hope for the best without knowing more about them.
    >
    > First of all, what exactly do they do? I understand that they remove bad
    > registry keys but how do they determine which keys are bad? How accurate are
    > they at determining which keys are bad? How often do they fail to fix bad
    > keys? How often do they mistake good keys for bad ones and then remove those
    > good keys? Do they simply delete all keys that they determine are bad or do
    > they have the ability to repair bad keys? How accurate are the repairs? Can
    > I rely on them or do the repairs often make the problem worse, not better?
    >
    > What are the symptoms that should encourage you to use a registry cleaner?
    > And, conversely, when should you NOT use one? I don't want to start using
    > them for situations where they will not help or will make a problem worse.
    >
    > Also, can anyone recommend a good registry cleaner? I've seen a lot of ads
    > for registry cleaners but some of them felt a bit dodgy. I don't want to
    > click on registry cleaner and then find that I've only downloaded spyware
    > (or worse).



    Here we go again...

    As far as I'm concerned registry cleaners are next to utterly useless
    and for most part they create more harm than good. The purposed non
    existent benefits claimed by the vendors and fans of these programs are
    simply not worth the risk of the real damages that these programs can
    and do at times cause.

    John
     
  3. Etaoin Shrdlu

    Etaoin Shrdlu Flightless Bird

    On 3/5/2010 8:58 AM, Rhino wrote:
    > Can someone knowledgeable please tell me more about registry cleaners. I
    > know that some people think of them as cure-alls for their Windows problems
    > and I'm sure they have their place but I don't want to just grab one at
    > random and hope for the best without knowing more about them.
    >
    > First of all, what exactly do they do? I understand that they remove bad
    > registry keys but how do they determine which keys are bad? How accurate are
    > they at determining which keys are bad? How often do they fail to fix bad
    > keys? How often do they mistake good keys for bad ones and then remove those
    > good keys? Do they simply delete all keys that they determine are bad or do
    > they have the ability to repair bad keys? How accurate are the repairs? Can
    > I rely on them or do the repairs often make the problem worse, not better?
    >
    > What are the symptoms that should encourage you to use a registry cleaner?
    > And, conversely, when should you NOT use one? I don't want to start using
    > them for situations where they will not help or will make a problem worse.
    >
    > Also, can anyone recommend a good registry cleaner? I've seen a lot of ads
    > for registry cleaners but some of them felt a bit dodgy. I don't want to
    > click on registry cleaner and then find that I've only downloaded spyware
    > (or worse).
    >
    > --
    > Rhino
    >
    >

    There is no need for registry "cleaning," especially in the hands of a
    neophyte. There is a greater chance (even though that chance might be
    small) that harm will be done than there is for anything good coming of it.
     
  4. Bob I

    Bob I Flightless Bird

    Long discussion here
    http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?f=62...k=t&sd=a&sid=65e0dee508e44791c06ca8997dc815db

    Rhino wrote:

    > Can someone knowledgeable please tell me more about registry cleaners. I
    > know that some people think of them as cure-alls for their Windows problems
    > and I'm sure they have their place but I don't want to just grab one at
    > random and hope for the best without knowing more about them.
    >
    > First of all, what exactly do they do? I understand that they remove bad
    > registry keys but how do they determine which keys are bad? How accurate are
    > they at determining which keys are bad? How often do they fail to fix bad
    > keys? How often do they mistake good keys for bad ones and then remove those
    > good keys? Do they simply delete all keys that they determine are bad or do
    > they have the ability to repair bad keys? How accurate are the repairs? Can
    > I rely on them or do the repairs often make the problem worse, not better?
    >
    > What are the symptoms that should encourage you to use a registry cleaner?
    > And, conversely, when should you NOT use one? I don't want to start using
    > them for situations where they will not help or will make a problem worse.
    >
    > Also, can anyone recommend a good registry cleaner? I've seen a lot of ads
    > for registry cleaners but some of them felt a bit dodgy. I don't want to
    > click on registry cleaner and then find that I've only downloaded spyware
    > (or worse).
    >
    > --
    > Rhino
    >
    >
     
  5. db

    db Flightless Bird

    short discussion here

    http://onecare.live.com/site/en-us/article/registry_cleaner_why.htm


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    - Systems Analyst
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    ~~~~~~~~~~"share the nirvana" - dbZen

    >
    >


    "Rhino" <no.offline.contact.please@example.com> wrote in message news:-OBD#nRHvKHA.812@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
    > Can someone knowledgeable please tell me more about registry cleaners. I know that some people think of them as cure-alls for
    > their Windows problems and I'm sure they have their place but I don't want to just grab one at random and hope for the best
    > without knowing more about them.
    >
    > First of all, what exactly do they do? I understand that they remove bad registry keys but how do they determine which keys are
    > bad? How accurate are they at determining which keys are bad? How often do they fail to fix bad keys? How often do they mistake
    > good keys for bad ones and then remove those good keys? Do they simply delete all keys that they determine are bad or do they have
    > the ability to repair bad keys? How accurate are the repairs? Can I rely on them or do the repairs often make the problem worse,
    > not better?
    >
    > What are the symptoms that should encourage you to use a registry cleaner? And, conversely, when should you NOT use one? I don't
    > want to start using them for situations where they will not help or will make a problem worse.
    >
    > Also, can anyone recommend a good registry cleaner? I've seen a lot of ads for registry cleaners but some of them felt a bit
    > dodgy. I don't want to click on registry cleaner and then find that I've only downloaded spyware (or worse).
    >
    > --
    > Rhino
    >
     
  6. Shenan Stanley

    Shenan Stanley Flightless Bird

    Rhino wrote:
    > Can someone knowledgeable please tell me more about registry
    > cleaners. I know that some people think of them as cure-alls for
    > their Windows problems and I'm sure they have their place but I
    > don't want to just grab one at random and hope for the best without
    > knowing more about them.
    > First of all, what exactly do they do? I understand that they
    > remove bad registry keys but how do they determine which keys are
    > bad? How accurate are they at determining which keys are bad? How
    > often do they fail to fix bad keys? How often do they mistake good
    > keys for bad ones and then remove those good keys? Do they simply
    > delete all keys that they determine are bad or do they have the
    > ability to repair bad keys? How accurate are the repairs? Can I
    > rely on them or do the repairs often make the problem worse, not
    > better?
    > What are the symptoms that should encourage you to use a registry
    > cleaner? And, conversely, when should you NOT use one? I don't want
    > to start using them for situations where they will not help or will
    > make a problem worse.
    > Also, can anyone recommend a good registry cleaner? I've seen a lot
    > of ads for registry cleaners but some of them felt a bit dodgy. I
    > don't want to click on registry cleaner and then find that I've
    > only downloaded spyware (or worse).


    Instead of starting a 'flame-war'
    (http://www.google.com/search?q=define:Flame-war) here...

    Research it and make up your own mind based off the many discussions that
    already exist on the subject.

    Start with a search like this:
    http://www.google.com/search?q="Registry+Cleaners"+good+or+bad

    Maybe a newsgroup conversation search as simple as this one:
    http://groups.google.com/groups/search?as_epq=registry+clean

    You'll probably get pointed to these two links at some point:

    Why I don’t use registry cleaners
    http://www.edbott.com/weblog/archives/000643.html

    Should I Use a Registry Cleaner?
    http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?t=28099

    Someone else will probably mention to you in this 'conversation' that they
    use CCleaner or a Microsoft web page or tool (recently and in the past -
    Windows Live OneCare safety scanner) to 'clean their registry'. They might
    direct you to do the same...

    http://ccleaner.com/
    http://onecare.live.com/site/en-Us/article/registry_cleaner_why.htm

    In the end - it's just an argument that people like to have. One that
    usually gets heated and often contains the same people over and over.

    I've cleaned my registry and others' registries - but I knew or researched
    each item I was about to remove using whatever tool I chose to use (yes -
    that can be easily in the 100s - heck - CCleaner can recommend removal of
    100+ items with a fresh and clean installation of Windows XP - nothing else
    installed other than CCleaner - which begs the question for me - "Really?
    Already? Are you just messin' with me?") YES - I actually looked up every
    item, made backups using eRUNT and imaging the system if plausible before
    doing any removal of anything.

    The problem that seems to be skirted over/glossed by/ignored for the sake of
    argument is when someone who doesn't understand what they are doing just
    trusts whatever application they get to do everything for them and then tops
    it off with having no valid backups to speak of. Unwise use of any tool -
    whether or not everyone agrees on the usefulness of said tool - can and does
    cause problems.

    Used as a true tool - not an automated cleanup wonder item you put all your
    trust into - there can be some benefits in some cases to going through your
    registry and removing stale/unneeded or harmful items. I've had to do it
    cleaning up malware, I've had to do it cleaning up legitimate applications
    so they could be re-installed and I have had to do it just to fix issues
    with a given application or two.

    There lies the rub - as I see it. There seems to be one side or the other
    in the arguments that get started in the newsgroups over this topic - and
    anyone speaking middle ground is ignored. It seems that most either use the
    words 'snake-oil' and/or 'useless' or call the side that uses those words
    'ignorant' and/or 'close-minded'.

    Instead of propogating that sort of unnecessary (IMHO) banter - just look
    over the reading material out there (I have pointed you to the most common)
    and make up your own mind about what you are willing/not willing to do with
    your machine.

    My only advice is that whatever you do - do it wisely. Backups are a
    computer users best friend - there are no 'rules' more heavily touted, no
    idea more readily true when it comes to computing than, "Backups can save
    your @$$".

    --
    Shenan Stanley
    MS-MVP
    --
    How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
    http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
     
  7. HeyBub

    HeyBub Flightless Bird

    Rhino wrote:
    > Can someone knowledgeable please tell me more about registry
    > cleaners. I know that some people think of them as cure-alls for
    > their Windows problems and I'm sure they have their place but I don't
    > want to just grab one at random and hope for the best without knowing
    > more about them.


    Just who are these "some people"?

    Name just ONE person or company or group who can substantiate that ANY
    registry cleaner is a cure-all for anything.
     
  8. PA Bear [MS MVP]

    PA Bear [MS MVP] Flightless Bird

    If you ever think your Registry needs to be cleaned, repaired, boosted,
    tuned-up, cured, tweaked, or optimized (it doesn't), read
    http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?t=28099 and draw your own conclusions.
    --
    ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
    MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002


    Rhino wrote:
    > Can someone knowledgeable please tell me more about registry cleaners. I
    > know that some people think of them as cure-alls for their Windows
    > problems
    > and I'm sure they have their place but I don't want to just grab one at
    > random and hope for the best without knowing more about them.
    >
    > First of all, what exactly do they do? I understand that they remove bad
    > registry keys but how do they determine which keys are bad? How accurate
    > are
    > they at determining which keys are bad? How often do they fail to fix bad
    > keys? How often do they mistake good keys for bad ones and then remove
    > those
    > good keys? Do they simply delete all keys that they determine are bad or
    > do
    > they have the ability to repair bad keys? How accurate are the repairs?
    > Can
    > I rely on them or do the repairs often make the problem worse, not better?
    >
    > What are the symptoms that should encourage you to use a registry cleaner?
    > And, conversely, when should you NOT use one? I don't want to start using
    > them for situations where they will not help or will make a problem worse.
    >
    > Also, can anyone recommend a good registry cleaner? I've seen a lot of ads
    > for registry cleaners but some of them felt a bit dodgy. I don't want to
    > click on registry cleaner and then find that I've only downloaded spyware
    > (or worse).
     
  9. Ken Blake, MVP

    Ken Blake, MVP Flightless Bird

    On Fri, 5 Mar 2010 09:58:53 -0500, "Rhino"
    <no.offline.contact.please@example.com> wrote:

    > Can someone knowledgeable please tell me more about registry cleaners. I
    > know that some people think of them as cure-alls for their Windows problems
    > and I'm sure they have their place but I don't want to just grab one at
    > random and hope for the best without knowing more about them.



    Yes, they have their place. It's the garbage can! ;-)

    See below.


    > First of all, what exactly do they do? I understand that they remove bad
    > registry keys but how do they determine which keys are bad? How accurate are
    > they at determining which keys are bad? How often do they fail to fix bad
    > keys? How often do they mistake good keys for bad ones and then remove those
    > good keys? Do they simply delete all keys that they determine are bad or do
    > they have the ability to repair bad keys? How accurate are the repairs? Can
    > I rely on them or do the repairs often make the problem worse, not better?
    >
    > What are the symptoms that should encourage you to use a registry cleaner?



    None.


    > And, conversely, when should you NOT use one?



    You should *never* use one.


    > I don't want to start using
    > them for situations where they will not help or will make a problem worse.
    >
    > Also, can anyone recommend a good registry cleaner? I've seen a lot of ads
    > for registry cleaners but some of them felt a bit dodgy. I don't want to
    > click on registry cleaner and then find that I've only downloaded spyware
    > (or worse).



    None of them are any good. Here's my standard message on the subject:

    Registry cleaning programs are *all* snake oil. Cleaning of the
    registry isn't needed and is dangerous. Leave the registry alone and
    don't use any registry cleaner. Despite what many people think, and
    what vendors of registry cleaning software try to convince you of,
    having unused registry entries doesn't really hurt you.

    The risk of a serious problem caused by a registry cleaner erroneously
    removing an entry you need is far greater than any potential benefit
    it may have.

    Read http://www.edbott.com/weblog/archives/000643.html

    --
    Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003
    Please Reply to the Newsgroup
     
  10. Rhino

    Rhino Flightless Bird

    I should have realized that this would be one of those "religious arguments"
    that had been argued ad infinitum in the past.....

    Thanks to all for pointing me to the past arguments and not hammering me too
    hard for raising this issue yet again.

    I'll steer clear of them and just remove any bad keys manually, based on
    Microsoft Knowledgebase articles or the equivalent.

    Cheers!

    --
    Rhino
     
  11. Nil

    Nil Flightless Bird

    On 05 Mar 2010, "Rhino" <no.offline.contact.please@example.com>
    wrote in microsoft.public.windowsxp.general:

    > I'll steer clear of them and just remove any bad keys manually,
    > based on Microsoft Knowledgebase articles or the equivalent.


    I sometimes use CCleaner to point out (what it considers) to be
    anomalies in the register. I then sometimes consider its findings and
    lets it correct them, or I correct them by hand. If I don't know what
    the registry issue does, I leave it alone. I NEVER let it just fix
    things automatically.

    Unless I'm dealing with some specific issue beforehand, I haven't found
    that any registry "cleaner" fixes makes any performance difference at
    all. The only think it helps is to assuage my slightly neurotic need to
    keep my computer orderly. The benefit is only psychological.

    If you don't know why you would need a registry "cleaner", you
    certainly don't need one.
     
  12. EN59CVH

    EN59CVH Flightless Bird

    Ignore all the muppets who have replied. Quick fix is here:

    <http://download.piriform.com/ccsetup229.exe>

    Although it is a not the cure for all evils on this planet, it does
    clear most of the clutter known to mankind. Pigs are completely
    ignorant muppets but you would do yourself justice to reformat the HD
    and start all over again if and only if you have a very serious problem
    with your system.

    Meddling with Windows registry entries WILL NOT cure your system. That
    is a guarantee from me!



    Rhino wrote:
    >
    > I should have realized that this would be one of those "religious arguments"
    > that had been argued ad infinitum in the past.....
    >
    > Thanks to all for pointing me to the past arguments and not hammering me too
    > hard for raising this issue yet again.
    >
    > I'll steer clear of them and just remove any bad keys manually, based on
    > Microsoft Knowledgebase articles or the equivalent.
    >
    > Cheers!
    >
    > --
    > Rhino
     
  13. EN59CVH

    EN59CVH Flightless Bird

    Nil wrote:

    >I sometimes use CCleaner to point out (what it considers) to be
    >anomalies in the register.
    >


    You are more intelligent than the average PIG you get on these
    newsgroups with the title MVP after their name. CCleaner is a fantastic
    tool and I am surprised it hasn't become commercial yet.

    Keep up the good work Nil.
     
  14. Jose

    Jose Flightless Bird

    On Mar 5, 9:58 am, "Rhino" <no.offline.contact.ple...@example.com>
    wrote:
    > Can someone knowledgeable please tell me more about registry cleaners. I
    > know that some people think of them as cure-alls for their Windows problems
    > and I'm sure they have their place but I don't want to just grab one at
    > random and hope for the best without knowing more about them.
    >
    > First of all, what exactly do they do? I understand that they remove bad
    > registry keys but how do they determine which keys are bad? How accurate are
    > they at determining which keys are bad? How often do they fail to fix bad
    > keys? How often do they mistake good keys for bad ones and then remove those
    > good keys? Do they simply delete all keys that they determine are bad or do
    > they have the ability to repair bad keys? How accurate are the repairs? Can
    > I rely on them or do the repairs often make the problem worse, not better?
    >
    > What are the symptoms that should encourage you to use a registry cleaner?
    > And, conversely, when should you NOT use one? I don't want to start using
    > them for situations where they will not help or will make a problem worse..
    >
    > Also, can anyone recommend a good registry cleaner? I've seen a lot of ads
    > for registry cleaners but some of them felt a bit dodgy. I don't want to
    > click on registry cleaner and then find that I've only downloaded spyware
    > (or worse).
    >
    > --
    > Rhino


    Can you describe would be the results on your system if you used a
    good registry cleaner?

    What would you expect to be different or better?

    Do you think it will help resolve some issue you are having and what
    is the issue?

    I like a clean registry too, but different tools (and I have tried a
    lot of them) will find/report/miss different things when you run them
    against the exact the same registry. I did not use the word fix on
    purpose.

    What do you hope to accomplish with this hygiene?

    There are plenty of horror stories, but those seem to be frequently
    from lack of knowledge, lack of understanding, self inflicted
    carelessness or misuse of the product(s). That is just my opinion
    from having to fix systems afterwards.

    You need to have an undo plan before you start if you are not sure
    about these things.
     
  15. HeyBub

    HeyBub Flightless Bird

    Rhino wrote:
    > I should have realized that this would be one of those "religious
    > arguments" that had been argued ad infinitum in the past.....
    >
    > Thanks to all for pointing me to the past arguments and not hammering
    > me too hard for raising this issue yet again.
    >
    > I'll steer clear of them and just remove any bad keys manually, based
    > on Microsoft Knowledgebase articles or the equivalent.
    >


    Okay, I'll play:

    WHY do you want to remove the "bad" keys. They have nothing to do with
    performance and take up, almost always, zero room on the disk (because the
    registry file rounds up to the next segment boundary), and they do not
    interfere with anything.
     
  16. Dan

    Dan Flightless Bird

    hi rhino.. tuff night? :)..

    try: Glary Utilities, download . com
    (free, does not hold back on repairs)

    I only have novice experience, so just opinion: some applications seem to
    stick you with miles & miles of what might call directories in the registry,
    and do not delete them when you uninstall the application, aol etc.. some
    utilities, security apps.. fall under using registry cleaning to remove
    (security problems, right?), I don't want reinstall my pc every couple
    minutes either, but:

    have just tried something called: Glary Utilities from download . com
    appears free version will fix all registry problems / not just a portion..
    but not a security app, does seem to be set up well for a utility.

    off hand: will speed up boot / start of system, running apps.. if
    understand correct registry is like a batch file that is accessed every time
    you want to run / start a new program, pc has to read the whole registry
    every time you want to do something.
    comparing to a super-large directory tree: is delicate / should not mess
    with manually / can get corrupted easy, - and - seems like some apps want
    to add everything they can to it, to take over your system.. unquote

    hope helps, luck


    "Rhino" wrote:

    > Can someone knowledgeable please tell me more about registry cleaners. I
    > know that some people think of them as cure-alls for their Windows problems
    > and I'm sure they have their place but I don't want to just grab one at
    > random and hope for the best without knowing more about them.
    >
    > First of all, what exactly do they do? I understand that they remove bad
    > registry keys but how do they determine which keys are bad? How accurate are
    > they at determining which keys are bad? How often do they fail to fix bad
    > keys? How often do they mistake good keys for bad ones and then remove those
    > good keys? Do they simply delete all keys that they determine are bad or do
    > they have the ability to repair bad keys? How accurate are the repairs? Can
    > I rely on them or do the repairs often make the problem worse, not better?
    >
    > What are the symptoms that should encourage you to use a registry cleaner?
    > And, conversely, when should you NOT use one? I don't want to start using
    > them for situations where they will not help or will make a problem worse.
    >
    > Also, can anyone recommend a good registry cleaner? I've seen a lot of ads
    > for registry cleaners but some of them felt a bit dodgy. I don't want to
    > click on registry cleaner and then find that I've only downloaded spyware
    > (or worse).
    >
    > --
    > Rhino
    >
    >
    > .
    >
     
  17. Dan

    Dan Flightless Bird

    ps, probably not said yet, try:
    - search for: box above, and
    - download . com search utilities, glary utilities does not sort with the
    rest of the registry cleaners, may be why hadn't tried before this.. you can
    guage apps there by reviews, "number of downloads" is a good down-dirty
    quick guage that does not lie... (glary: 8M, free version does complete
    clean... ...)
     
  18. Leythos

    Leythos Flightless Bird

    In article <OBD#nRHvKHA.812@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl>,
    no.offline.contact.please@example.com says...
    > Can someone knowledgeable please tell me more about registry cleaners.
    >


    With more than 30 years of computer programming, hardware design, and
    support of customers system, I would never run a registry cleaner on my
    own computers or any customers computers.

    --
    You can't trust your best friends, your five senses, only the little
    voice inside you that most civilians don't even hear -- Listen to that.
    Trust yourself.
    spam999free@rrohio.com (remove 999 for proper email address)
     
  19. Unknown

    Unknown Flightless Bird

    But, your 'guarantees' aren't worth the powder to blow them to bits.
    "EN59CVH" <EN59CVH@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    news:4B918C76.1785A9FD@discussions.microsoft.com...
    > Ignore all the muppets who have replied. Quick fix is here:
    >
    > <http://download.piriform.com/ccsetup229.exe>
    >
    > Although it is a not the cure for all evils on this planet, it does
    > clear most of the clutter known to mankind. Pigs are completely
    > ignorant muppets but you would do yourself justice to reformat the HD
    > and start all over again if and only if you have a very serious problem
    > with your system.
    >
    > Meddling with Windows registry entries WILL NOT cure your system. That
    > is a guarantee from me!
    >
    >
    >
    > Rhino wrote:
    >>
    >> I should have realized that this would be one of those "religious
    >> arguments"
    >> that had been argued ad infinitum in the past.....
    >>
    >> Thanks to all for pointing me to the past arguments and not hammering me
    >> too
    >> hard for raising this issue yet again.
    >>
    >> I'll steer clear of them and just remove any bad keys manually, based on
    >> Microsoft Knowledgebase articles or the equivalent.
    >>
    >> Cheers!
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    >> Rhino
     
  20. apistomaster(nospam)

    apistomaster(nospam) Flightless Bird

    Before anyone jumps me for mentioning Windows 7 on the XP forum let me
    say I realize that..
    I merely wanted to point out that on the Window 7 support forum, they
    have 2 identical adds at the top and bottom of every page from UniBlue
    stating that the first thing one should do is download and run their
    registry cleaner. I am not taking any sides in this issue but
    Microsoft seems to be pushing user to get and use this registry
    cleaner. And it is not free.
    Why would Microsoft be so willingly support the use of this product?
    I know that the consensus here is that registry cleaners are next to
    or worse than useless.
    I happened to use one once, the UniBlue product to be exact, on my
    Inspiron E1505 laptop and it fixed the problem I was having, a missing
    or corrupted .dll file but I never ran it again.
    This message was produced on a Sony Vaio laptop running Windows 7 Home
    Premium Edition.
    My Inspiron is in the shop and my small hooby business of selling fish
    makes it absolutely necessary that I have a working computer. I
    ordered a $1000 build of a Dell Studio 17 but it was going to take up
    to 3 weeks for it to arrive so I bought the Vaio to be able to stay in
    touch with my customers. Raising tropical fish is my hobby/business
    not computers but once the Inspiron is out of the shop and the new
    Studio 17 arrives I will own 3 working laptops so I will never be
    caught without at least one working machine again.
     

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