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Glary Utilities or Crap Cleaner -- which registry cleaner is saferfor Windows 7 x64?

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Al Smith

Flightless Bird
Does anyone have an opinion about which registry cleaner is safer
on 64-bit Windows 7, Glary Utilities or Crap Cleaner? I've got
both installed, but I'm a little reluctant to run the registry
cleaner part of either program without some confidence that they
won't do damage.

-Al-
 
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Roy Smith

Flightless Bird
Re: Glary Utilities or Crap Cleaner -- which registry cleaner is safer for Windows 7 x64?

I wouldn't trust *ANY* registry cleaner on my PC, but that's my personal
preference. Though what I do to keep the registry cleared of removed
programs is to use Revo Uninstaller to uninstall software. This program
will run the uninstall program for the software you want to remove, then
performs a scan for any leftover remnants. Once the scan is complete you
are then shown the results where you can determine what is safe to remove.


"Al Smith" <invalid@address.com> wrote in message
news:vf6en.65931$PH1.9435@edtnps82...
> Does anyone have an opinion about which registry cleaner is safer on
> 64-bit Windows 7, Glary Utilities or Crap Cleaner? I've got both
> installed, but I'm a little reluctant to run the registry cleaner part of
> either program without some confidence that they won't do damage.
>
> -Al-


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Windows 7 Home Premium
 
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Ophelia

Flightless Bird
Re: Glary Utilities or Crap Cleaner -- which registry cleaner is safer for Windows 7 x64?

"Roy Smith" <rasmith1959@live.com> wrote in message
news:uDben.316527$H15.129708@en-nntp-02.dc1.easynews.com...
> I wouldn't trust *ANY* registry cleaner on my PC, but that's my personal
> preference. Though what I do to keep the registry cleared of removed
> programs is to use Revo Uninstaller to uninstall software. This program
> will run the uninstall program for the software you want to remove, then
> performs a scan for any leftover remnants. Once the scan is complete you
> are then shown the results where you can determine what is safe to remove.


All the time I had XP I used CC and the registry cleaner too. I have been
scared off by reading here, and don't feel sure enough to be able to choose.
I guess my registry will stay 'mucky' now :(
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Dave-UK

Flightless Bird
Re: Glary Utilities or Crap Cleaner -- which registry cleaner is safer for Windows 7 x64?

"Al Smith" <invalid@address.com> wrote in message news:vf6en.65931$PH1.9435@edtnps82...
> Does anyone have an opinion about which registry cleaner is safer
> on 64-bit Windows 7, Glary Utilities or Crap Cleaner? I've got
> both installed, but I'm a little reluctant to run the registry
> cleaner part of either program without some confidence that they
> won't do damage.
>
> -Al-


I use CrapCleaner on Win7 x64 and run the registry cleaner
once in a while. I've never had any problems with it.
The default setting for the registry cleaner in CrapCleaner
is to offer to backup any registry changes.
If yours does not do this then go to:
Options > Advanced and tick the box 'Show prompt to backup registry issues'.
 
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Ophelia

Flightless Bird
Re: Glary Utilities or Crap Cleaner -- which registry cleaner is safer for Windows 7 x64?

"Dave-UK" <Here@Home.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Al Smith" <invalid@address.com> wrote in message
> news:vf6en.65931$PH1.9435@edtnps82...
>> Does anyone have an opinion about which registry cleaner is safer on
>> 64-bit Windows 7, Glary Utilities or Crap Cleaner? I've got both
>> installed, but I'm a little reluctant to run the registry cleaner part of
>> either program without some confidence that they won't do damage.
>>
>> -Al-

>
> I use CrapCleaner on Win7 x64 and run the registry cleaner
> once in a while. I've never had any problems with it.
> The default setting for the registry cleaner in CrapCleaner
> is to offer to backup any registry changes.
> If yours does not do this then go to:
> Options > Advanced and tick the box 'Show prompt to backup registry
> issues'.


Ooops back on then? :)))


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C

Char Jackson

Flightless Bird
Re: Glary Utilities or Crap Cleaner -- which registry cleaner is safer for Windows 7 x64?

On Mon, 15 Feb 2010 06:57:57 GMT, Al Smith <invalid@address.com>
wrote:

>Does anyone have an opinion about which registry cleaner is safer
>on 64-bit Windows 7, Glary Utilities or Crap Cleaner? I've got
>both installed, but I'm a little reluctant to run the registry
>cleaner part of either program without some confidence that they
>won't do damage.


I've never been convinced there's any reason to run a 'registry
cleaner'.
 
A

Al Smith

Flightless Bird
Re: Glary Utilities or Crap Cleaner -- which registry cleaner issafer for Windows 7 x64?

Ophelia wrote:
>
> "Roy Smith" <rasmith1959@live.com> wrote in message
> news:uDben.316527$H15.129708@en-nntp-02.dc1.easynews.com...
>> I wouldn't trust *ANY* registry cleaner on my PC, but that's my
>> personal preference. Though what I do to keep the registry cleared of
>> removed programs is to use Revo Uninstaller to uninstall software.
>> This program will run the uninstall program for the software you want
>> to remove, then performs a scan for any leftover remnants. Once the
>> scan is complete you are then shown the results where you can
>> determine what is safe to remove.

>
> All the time I had XP I used CC and the registry cleaner too. I have
> been scared off by reading here, and don't feel sure enough to be able
> to choose. I guess my registry will stay 'mucky' now :(






I used to use a registry cleaner regularly on XP and never had a
problem. But the one I used to use doesn't work on Windows 7 x64,
or at least, I wouldn't trust trying it. CrapCleaner and Glary
Utilities seem to have been updated for x64 systems. I like
keeping my registry free of junk, as part of my general policy to
get rid of as many unnecessary files as possible. The first time I
clean a registry there is always a huge amount of junk that comes
out. But like you, I'm a bit nervous about cleaning the registry
for the first time in Windows 7.

-Al-
 
A

Al Smith

Flightless Bird
Re: Glary Utilities or Crap Cleaner -- which registry cleaner issafer for Windows 7 x64?

Dave-UK wrote:
>
> "Al Smith" <invalid@address.com> wrote in message
> news:vf6en.65931$PH1.9435@edtnps82...
>> Does anyone have an opinion about which registry cleaner is safer on
>> 64-bit Windows 7, Glary Utilities or Crap Cleaner? I've got both
>> installed, but I'm a little reluctant to run the registry cleaner part
>> of either program without some confidence that they won't do damage.
>>
>> -Al-

>
> I use CrapCleaner on Win7 x64 and run the registry cleaner
> once in a while. I've never had any problems with it.
> The default setting for the registry cleaner in CrapCleaner
> is to offer to backup any registry changes.
> If yours does not do this then go to:
> Options > Advanced and tick the box 'Show prompt to backup registry
> issues'.
>
>


A vote for CrapCleaner, then. This is the first time I've tried
Glary Utilities. It seems like a polished program, but I wanted
some feedback before tying it on something so critical. I will
probably go with CrapCleaner, which I've used before, and will of
course back up the registry. The only trouble with that is, if
your registry is really hosed, will Windows even run to restore
the back up?

-Al-
 
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SC Tom

Flightless Bird
Re: Glary Utilities or Crap Cleaner -- which registry cleaner is safer for Windows 7 x64?

"Al Smith" <invalid@address.com> wrote in message
news:vf6en.65931$PH1.9435@edtnps82...
> Does anyone have an opinion about which registry cleaner is safer on
> 64-bit Windows 7, Glary Utilities or Crap Cleaner? I've got both
> installed, but I'm a little reluctant to run the registry cleaner part of
> either program without some confidence that they won't do damage.
>
> -Al-


I have never been unable to boot after using CCleaner (as has been intimated
by some), but I have had problems with networked programs when I used it a
couple of times on my work computer. There were a couple that had to be
reinstalled locally in order to work again.
I have only had one problem at home with it, and that was on my Win7
notebook. It "broke" my installation of Logitech SetPoint for my Bluetooth
mouse. Keep in mind that I didn't go through each key to see what was being
removed, so I can't blame the program as much as blaming myself. All I had
to do to fix it was restore the keys from the backup that CC creates. Didn't
even need to reboot.
Even though I've never had an unbootable machine, I can honestly say that
I've never seen any verifiable speed or reliability performance either.
Do they do any good? Not that I can see.
Do they do any harm? Yes, in certain instances, and could probably do more
if the user doesn't know or pay attention to what he's doing.
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Dave-UK

Flightless Bird
Re: Glary Utilities or Crap Cleaner -- which registry cleaner is safer for Windows 7 x64?

"Al Smith" <invalid@address.com> wrote in message news:Baeen.65996$PH1.42736@edtnps82...
> Dave-UK wrote:
>>
>> "Al Smith" <invalid@address.com> wrote in message
>> news:vf6en.65931$PH1.9435@edtnps82...
>>> Does anyone have an opinion about which registry cleaner is safer on
>>> 64-bit Windows 7, Glary Utilities or Crap Cleaner? I've got both
>>> installed, but I'm a little reluctant to run the registry cleaner part
>>> of either program without some confidence that they won't do damage.
>>>
>>> -Al-

>>
>> I use CrapCleaner on Win7 x64 and run the registry cleaner
>> once in a while. I've never had any problems with it.
>> The default setting for the registry cleaner in CrapCleaner
>> is to offer to backup any registry changes.
>> If yours does not do this then go to:
>> Options > Advanced and tick the box 'Show prompt to backup registry
>> issues'.
>>
>>

>
> A vote for CrapCleaner, then. This is the first time I've tried
> Glary Utilities. It seems like a polished program, but I wanted
> some feedback before tying it on something so critical. I will
> probably go with CrapCleaner, which I've used before, and will of
> course back up the registry. The only trouble with that is, if
> your registry is really hosed, will Windows even run to restore
> the back up?
>
> -Al-


I only use a registry cleaner because I like messing about
in the registry and often do searches within the registry.
So I've convinced myself that the searches would run faster
if there were less junk in there.
I don't think Win7 would allow CrapCleaner to delete any keys
that would completely hose the system.
I don't bother using the backup facility of CrapCleaner because
I use Erunt to do a daily registry backup.
http://www.larshederer.homepage.t-online.de/erunt/
If you read the FAQ it states that it only runs properly with
UAC disabled, but I've found it will run OK with UAC enabled and
run as a task with the correct privileges.
I'll post details if you want to try Erunt.
 
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Ophelia

Flightless Bird
Re: Glary Utilities or Crap Cleaner -- which registry cleaner is safer for Windows 7 x64?

"Al Smith" <invalid@address.com> wrote in message
news:%6een.65995$PH1.31536@edtnps82...
> I used to use a registry cleaner regularly on XP and never had a problem.
> But the one I used to use doesn't work on Windows 7 x64, or at least, I
> wouldn't trust trying it. CrapCleaner and Glary Utilities seem to have
> been updated for x64 systems. I like keeping my registry free of junk, as
> part of my general policy to get rid of as many unnecessary files as
> possible. The first time I clean a registry there is always a huge amount
> of junk that comes out. But like you, I'm a bit nervous about cleaning the
> registry for the first time in Windows 7.


Well, I downloaded the latest version, girded up me loins.. and went for it
<g> After all, I do have my 'mirror' backup. Anyway, it went like a dream:))

I ran the registery cleaner (but as Dave said, it can be backed up to the
desktop and I did as I always did) and all is well:)))


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Ophelia

Flightless Bird
Re: Glary Utilities or Crap Cleaner -- which registry cleaner is safer for Windows 7 x64?

"Al Smith" <invalid@address.com> wrote in message
news:Baeen.65996$PH1.42736@edtnps82...
> A vote for CrapCleaner, then. This is the first time I've tried Glary
> Utilities. It seems like a polished program, but I wanted some feedback
> before tying it on something so critical. I will probably go with
> CrapCleaner, which I've used before, and will of course back up the
> registry. The only trouble with that is, if your registry is really hosed,
> will Windows even run to restore the back up?


As you will see, in another post, I have done it and all is well:) I am also
running Win7 64bit

Did you make your system repair disk and a system image disk? I reckon that
ought to cover any scary eventuality.

Anyway, if it 's good enough for Dave, it's good enough for me:)))

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A

Al Smith

Flightless Bird
Re: Glary Utilities or Crap Cleaner -- which registry cleaner issafer for Windows 7 x64?

SC Tom wrote:
>
> "Al Smith" <invalid@address.com> wrote in message
> news:vf6en.65931$PH1.9435@edtnps82...
>> Does anyone have an opinion about which registry cleaner is safer on
>> 64-bit Windows 7, Glary Utilities or Crap Cleaner? I've got both
>> installed, but I'm a little reluctant to run the registry cleaner part
>> of either program without some confidence that they won't do damage.
>>
>> -Al-

>
> I have never been unable to boot after using CCleaner (as has been
> intimated by some), but I have had problems with networked programs when
> I used it a couple of times on my work computer. There were a couple
> that had to be reinstalled locally in order to work again.
> I have only had one problem at home with it, and that was on my Win7
> notebook. It "broke" my installation of Logitech SetPoint for my
> Bluetooth mouse. Keep in mind that I didn't go through each key to see
> what was being removed, so I can't blame the program as much as blaming
> myself. All I had to do to fix it was restore the keys from the backup
> that CC creates. Didn't even need to reboot.
> Even though I've never had an unbootable machine, I can honestly say
> that I've never seen any verifiable speed or reliability performance
> either.
> Do they do any good? Not that I can see.
> Do they do any harm? Yes, in certain instances, and could probably do
> more if the user doesn't know or pay attention to what he's doing.



Interesting. I've got Logitech SetPoint running for my wireless
mouse and keyboard. I wouldn't want to mess that up, although I
suppose a reinstall would fix it.

-Al-
 
A

Al Smith

Flightless Bird
Re: Glary Utilities or Crap Cleaner -- which registry cleaner issafer for Windows 7 x64?

Ophelia wrote:
>
> "Al Smith" <invalid@address.com> wrote in message
> news:%6een.65995$PH1.31536@edtnps82...
>> I used to use a registry cleaner regularly on XP and never had a
>> problem. But the one I used to use doesn't work on Windows 7 x64, or
>> at least, I wouldn't trust trying it. CrapCleaner and Glary Utilities
>> seem to have been updated for x64 systems. I like keeping my registry
>> free of junk, as part of my general policy to get rid of as many
>> unnecessary files as possible. The first time I clean a registry there
>> is always a huge amount of junk that comes out. But like you, I'm a
>> bit nervous about cleaning the registry for the first time in Windows 7.

>
> Well, I downloaded the latest version, girded up me loins.. and went for
> it <g> After all, I do have my 'mirror' backup. Anyway, it went like a
> dream:))
>
> I ran the registery cleaner (but as Dave said, it can be backed up to
> the desktop and I did as I always did) and all is well:)))
>
>


Good to know.

-Al-
 
A

Al Smith

Flightless Bird
Re: Glary Utilities or Crap Cleaner -- which registry cleaner issafer for Windows 7 x64?

Dave-UK wrote:
>
> "Al Smith" <invalid@address.com> wrote in message
> news:Baeen.65996$PH1.42736@edtnps82...
>> Dave-UK wrote:
>>>
>>> "Al Smith" <invalid@address.com> wrote in message
>>> news:vf6en.65931$PH1.9435@edtnps82...
>>>> Does anyone have an opinion about which registry cleaner is safer on
>>>> 64-bit Windows 7, Glary Utilities or Crap Cleaner? I've got both
>>>> installed, but I'm a little reluctant to run the registry cleaner part
>>>> of either program without some confidence that they won't do damage.
>>>>
>>>> -Al-
>>>
>>> I use CrapCleaner on Win7 x64 and run the registry cleaner
>>> once in a while. I've never had any problems with it.
>>> The default setting for the registry cleaner in CrapCleaner
>>> is to offer to backup any registry changes.
>>> If yours does not do this then go to:
>>> Options > Advanced and tick the box 'Show prompt to backup registry
>>> issues'.
>>>
>>>

>>
>> A vote for CrapCleaner, then. This is the first time I've tried Glary
>> Utilities. It seems like a polished program, but I wanted some
>> feedback before tying it on something so critical. I will probably go
>> with CrapCleaner, which I've used before, and will of course back up
>> the registry. The only trouble with that is, if your registry is
>> really hosed, will Windows even run to restore the back up?
>>
>> -Al-

>
> I only use a registry cleaner because I like messing about
> in the registry and often do searches within the registry.
> So I've convinced myself that the searches would run faster
> if there were less junk in there.
> I don't think Win7 would allow CrapCleaner to delete any keys
> that would completely hose the system.
> I don't bother using the backup facility of CrapCleaner because
> I use Erunt to do a daily registry backup.
> http://www.larshederer.homepage.t-online.de/erunt/
> If you read the FAQ it states that it only runs properly with
> UAC disabled, but I've found it will run OK with UAC enabled and
> run as a task with the correct privileges.
> I'll post details if you want to try Erunt.
>
>


I'm not familiar with Erunt. I read over the FAQ. It doesn't seem
as though Erunt has been optimized for Windows 7 x64 yet. This is
true of so many programs. I'm trying to stick with stuff that has
been specifically written, ore rewritten, for W7 x64.

In view of the problem ST Tom ran into with Logitech SetPoint, I
may just wait for awhile before trying to flush my registry.

-Al-
 
A

Al Smith

Flightless Bird
Re: Glary Utilities or Crap Cleaner -- which registry cleaner issafer for Windows 7 x64?

Ophelia wrote:
>
> "Al Smith" <invalid@address.com> wrote in message
> news:Baeen.65996$PH1.42736@edtnps82...
>> A vote for CrapCleaner, then. This is the first time I've tried Glary
>> Utilities. It seems like a polished program, but I wanted some
>> feedback before tying it on something so critical. I will probably go
>> with CrapCleaner, which I've used before, and will of course back up
>> the registry. The only trouble with that is, if your registry is
>> really hosed, will Windows even run to restore the back up?

>
> As you will see, in another post, I have done it and all is well:) I am
> also running Win7 64bit
>
> Did you make your system repair disk and a system image disk? I reckon
> that ought to cover any scary eventuality.
>
> Anyway, if it 's good enough for Dave, it's good enough for me:)))
>



You probably don't use Logitech SetPoint, or do you?

-Al-
 
S

SC Tom

Flightless Bird
Re: Glary Utilities or Crap Cleaner -- which registry cleaner is safer for Windows 7 x64?

"Al Smith" <invalid@address.com> wrote in message
news:0ofen.66058$PH1.51821@edtnps82...
> SC Tom wrote:
>>
>> "Al Smith" <invalid@address.com> wrote in message
>> news:vf6en.65931$PH1.9435@edtnps82...
>>> Does anyone have an opinion about which registry cleaner is safer on
>>> 64-bit Windows 7, Glary Utilities or Crap Cleaner? I've got both
>>> installed, but I'm a little reluctant to run the registry cleaner part
>>> of either program without some confidence that they won't do damage.
>>>
>>> -Al-

>>
>> I have never been unable to boot after using CCleaner (as has been
>> intimated by some), but I have had problems with networked programs when
>> I used it a couple of times on my work computer. There were a couple
>> that had to be reinstalled locally in order to work again.
>> I have only had one problem at home with it, and that was on my Win7
>> notebook. It "broke" my installation of Logitech SetPoint for my
>> Bluetooth mouse. Keep in mind that I didn't go through each key to see
>> what was being removed, so I can't blame the program as much as blaming
>> myself. All I had to do to fix it was restore the keys from the backup
>> that CC creates. Didn't even need to reboot.
>> Even though I've never had an unbootable machine, I can honestly say
>> that I've never seen any verifiable speed or reliability performance
>> either.
>> Do they do any good? Not that I can see.
>> Do they do any harm? Yes, in certain instances, and could probably do
>> more if the user doesn't know or pay attention to what he's doing.

>
>
> Interesting. I've got Logitech SetPoint running for my wireless mouse and
> keyboard. I wouldn't want to mess that up, although I suppose a reinstall
> would fix it.
>
> -Al-


Well, like I said, all I had to do was restore the keys that were deleted
using the backup that CCleaner created. Much easier than a reinstallation
since all my settings were restored, also.
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Ophelia

Flightless Bird
Re: Glary Utilities or Crap Cleaner -- which registry cleaner is safer for Windows 7 x64?

"Al Smith" <invalid@address.com> wrote in message
news:6ufen.66061$PH1.27670@edtnps82...
> Ophelia wrote:
>>
>> "Al Smith" <invalid@address.com> wrote in message
>> news:Baeen.65996$PH1.42736@edtnps82...
>>> A vote for CrapCleaner, then. This is the first time I've tried Glary
>>> Utilities. It seems like a polished program, but I wanted some
>>> feedback before tying it on something so critical. I will probably go
>>> with CrapCleaner, which I've used before, and will of course back up
>>> the registry. The only trouble with that is, if your registry is
>>> really hosed, will Windows even run to restore the back up?

>>
>> As you will see, in another post, I have done it and all is well:) I am
>> also running Win7 64bit
>>
>> Did you make your system repair disk and a system image disk? I reckon
>> that ought to cover any scary eventuality.
>>
>> Anyway, if it 's good enough for Dave, it's good enough for me:)))
>>

>
>
> You probably don't use Logitech SetPoint, or do you?


Sorry, no

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Nil

Flightless Bird
Re: Glary Utilities or Crap Cleaner -- which registry cleaner is safer for Windows 7 x64?

On 15 Feb 2010, "Dave-UK" <Here@Home.com> wrote in
alt.windows7.general:

> I only use a registry cleaner because I like messing about
> in the registry and often do searches within the registry.
> So I've convinced myself that the searches would run faster
> if there were less junk in there.


I doubt that's true.

> I don't think Win7 would allow CrapCleaner to delete any keys
> that would completely hose the system.


I think that's a very naive attitude.
 
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relic

Flightless Bird
Re: Glary Utilities or Crap Cleaner -- which registry cleaner is safer for Windows 7 x64?

"Al Smith" <invalid@address.com> wrote in message
news:vf6en.65931$PH1.9435@edtnps82...
> Does anyone have an opinion about which registry cleaner is safer on
> 64-bit Windows 7, Glary Utilities or Crap Cleaner? I've got both
> installed, but I'm a little reluctant to run the registry cleaner part of
> either program without some confidence that they won't do damage.


CCleaner has been safe so far, but I've seen reported problems using the
Registry Cleaner part of it with W-7.

Windows 2000 had a problem that caused Microsoft to release RegClean (SP4
fixed the problem), and every software company jumped on the idea.
Personally, I wouldn't recommend any of them with W-7.
 
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