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Frank

Flightless Bird
Alias wrote:
> Joel wrote:
>> Alias <aka@masked&anonymous.com.invalid> wrote:
>>> Char Jackson wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 14 Feb 2010 00:52:43 -0500, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> They have a point. Maybe it's simply social responsibility, to "begin
>>>>> to" (if that TV lingo means anything will actually change - I'm not
>>>>> holding my breath, to be clear) put a stop to this warez trash on the
>>>>> Net. It can't get rid of it, to be sure, but what's wrong with giving
>>>>> people the option to demonstrate their commitment to safe computing?
>>>> Didn't those people demonstrate all the necessary commitment when they
>>>> bought a copy of Windows?
>>> Of course not because Windows and safe computing just don't compute.

>>
>>
>> No, *WAREZ* (including that from *counterfeiters*, which is what this
>> software is targeting) and safe computing don't compute.
>>

>
> I hate to bring the truth up but both pirated or genuine Windows and
> safe computing don't compute. There is no difference between a good
> pirated copy of Windows and a "genuine" copy other than the activation
> crap has been disabled.
>


Oh? And you must be speaking from experience, right? You're broke and
only use pirated copies of Windows is that what you're saying, right? So
you don't really have any way to compare a Genuine copy of Windows 7
with the one you pirated, is that correct?
Makes sense.

> BTW, warez disappeared a long time ago. Now it's done by P2P via
> torrents. See http://www.thepiratebay.org/ for more information so the
> next time you post about this, you don't look like such fool.


And the fool you're trying to fool is ...yourself?
Oops!
BTW, you are the real fool in here troll.
>
 
A

Alias

Flightless Bird
Frank wrote:
> Alias wrote:
>> Frank wrote:
>>> Alias wrote:
>>>> Al Smith wrote:
>>>>> Frank wrote:
>>>>>> Al Smith wrote:
>>>>>>> Alias wrote:
>>>>>>>> Frank wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Al Smith wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Frank wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Al Smith wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> HiThere wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Every day between 4 and 4:30 my computer is on standby while I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> exercise.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> During that time, it wakes itself up, hums and churns for a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> few
>>>>>>>>>>>>> minutes,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> then puts itself back on standby.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> MS Essentials is programmed to scan on Wednesday at 10 a.m.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've
>>>>>>>>>>>>> turned on
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the monitor when I hear the computer wake up to see if I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> can see
>>>>>>>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>>>>>>>> it's
>>>>>>>>>>>>> doing, but nothing is showing. Any idea what it could be?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> new
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Acer
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Aspire Core 2 Quad, Win 7 Home, with only MS Essentials as my
>>>>>>>>>>>>> antivirus/antispyware. Just curious what's going on behind the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> scene.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> "M. S., phone home ..."
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> You actually think avast doesn't "phone home?
>>>>>>>>>>> Think again pal...all of them do...they must in order to update
>>>>>>>>>>> themselves.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I don't know about you, but I let nothing update automatically.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> -Al-
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I let everything update and install automatically except Windows,
>>>>>>>>> where I have updates set to automatically download and then inform
>>>>>>>>> that updates are available and ready to install. That way if a
>>>>>>>>> re-boot
>>>>>>>>> is necessary, I'm ready for it to happen.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And the reason you don't go to the Microsoft Updates web site is
>>>>>>>> because
>>>>>>>> you run pirated copies of Windows, right?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That's quite an insulting thing to write, out of nowhere. Where did
>>>>>>> that come from?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -Al-
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Be careful Al, when cornered alias bites! :)
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't even know the dude.
>>>>>
>>>>> -Al-
>>>>
>>>> I don't bite. Frank's the junk yard guard dog here, not me.
>>>>
>>> And you're fooling who...fool?

>>
>> It's just the facts.

>
> Your facts...certainly not the real facts.
>
> You're entitled to your own opinion but you're not
>> entitled to your own facts.
>>

> Take your own advice liar!


Yet the moron can't cite one single lie I've told. All he can do is
repeat "liar, liar, liar" like a deranged drooling baboon.

--
Alias
 
A

Alias

Flightless Bird
Frank wrote:
> Alias wrote:
>> Frank wrote:
>>> Alias wrote:
>>>> Al Smith wrote:
>>>>> Alias wrote:
>>>>>> Frank wrote:
>>>>>>> Al Smith wrote:
>>>>>>>> Frank wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Al Smith wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> HiThere wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Every day between 4 and 4:30 my computer is on standby while I
>>>>>>>>>>> exercise.
>>>>>>>>>>> During that time, it wakes itself up, hums and churns for a few
>>>>>>>>>>> minutes,
>>>>>>>>>>> then puts itself back on standby.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> MS Essentials is programmed to scan on Wednesday at 10 a.m. I've
>>>>>>>>>>> turned on
>>>>>>>>>>> the monitor when I hear the computer wake up to see if I can
>>>>>>>>>>> see what
>>>>>>>>>>> it's
>>>>>>>>>>> doing, but nothing is showing. Any idea what it could be?
>>>>>>>>>>> It's a new
>>>>>>>>>>> Acer
>>>>>>>>>>> Aspire Core 2 Quad, Win 7 Home, with only MS Essentials as my
>>>>>>>>>>> antivirus/antispyware. Just curious what's going on behind
>>>>>>>>>>> the scene.
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "M. S., phone home ..."
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You actually think avast doesn't "phone home?
>>>>>>>>> Think again pal...all of them do...they must in order to update
>>>>>>>>> themselves.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I don't know about you, but I let nothing update automatically.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -Al-
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I let everything update and install automatically except Windows,
>>>>>>> where I have updates set to automatically download and then inform
>>>>>>> that updates are available and ready to install. That way if a
>>>>>>> re-boot
>>>>>>> is necessary, I'm ready for it to happen.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And the reason you don't go to the Microsoft Updates web site is
>>>>>> because
>>>>>> you run pirated copies of Windows, right?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> That's quite an insulting thing to write, out of nowhere. Where did
>>>>> that come from?
>>>>>
>>>>> -Al-
>>>>
>>>> There's a long history. Frank and I have a special relationship. He
>>>> lies and I tell the truth.
>>>>
>>> Projecting again huh?

>>
>> Lying again, eh?

>
> You sure are.
>>
>>> Everyone in here knows that you are a pathological LIAR...

>>
>> You post that but you have yet to cite one single lie I've told.

>
> Many of us have cited a multitude of lies you're spouted numerous times
> and yet you keep on lying.


No, you have posted statements that you say are lies but aren't.

> That is a sure sign of a pathological liar
> like you. You know it, I know it and everyone in here knows it.
> So who do you think you're fooling, fool?


Who do you think *you're* fooling?

>>
>>> and a spamming, linturd troll.

>>
>> Your third grade mentality is raising its ugly head again.

>
> It the third grade what you tried yet failed to achieve? Sure seems that
> way LIAR!


Not what I wrote. Try a remedial reading class at your local community
college.

--
Alias
 
A

Alias

Flightless Bird
Frank wrote:
> Alias wrote:
>> Frank wrote:
>>> Alias wrote:
>>>> Frank wrote:
>>>>> Alias wrote:
>>>>>> Pulse wrote:
>>>>>>> Huh? You are out of it Alias. Maybe it is time you stop posting
>>>>>>> in the Windows newsgroups if you want to be that misinformed.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> For your information, Windows Vista and Windows 7 users don't go
>>>>>>> to the Microsoft Updates site to get their updates - it's all
>>>>>>> done onboard. Vista was released years ago - you should know this
>>>>>>> already. Get up to date, man, or get lost.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The method is slightly different but the result is the same. You
>>>>>> can use auto or use an applet to go get and choose them. Frank
>>>>>> doesn't choose WAT. No update can be gotten "on board". Even
>>>>>> Microsoft calls this applet Windows Updates and I suspect there is
>>>>>> a genuine check in the process.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Alias" <aka@masked&anonymous.com.invalid> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:hl4rp2$noh$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And the reason you don't go to the Microsoft Updates web site is
>>>>>>>> because you run pirated copies of Windows, right?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Alias
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Hey asshole, I use both auto update and Windows Updates. You stupid
>>>>> pile of useless lying shit. You have no idea what you're talking
>>>>> about.
>>>>> Moron!
>>>>
>>>> Yawn.
>>>>
>>> Typical lying response.
>>> oops!

>>
>> No, Frank, I really did yawn.
>>

> Reading comprehension problems cody? Yawning and lying at the same time
> is one of your forte.


Yet you can't cite one lie I've told. I can cite dozens of yours.

--
Alias
 
A

Alias

Flightless Bird
Joel wrote:
> Alias <aka@masked&anonymous.com.invalid> wrote:
>
>>> "So, what are the risks of activation exploits? Searching for,
>>> downloading, or installing activation exploits or counterfeit software
>>> on the Internet is risky, because sites that advertise these pirated
>>> products often contain malware, viruses, and Trojans, which are found
>>> bundled with or directly built into the activation exploit or
>>> counterfeit software."
>>>
>>> They have a point.

>>
>> No, they have spewing fear, uncertainty and doubt which you lap up like
>> a good little sheeple.

>
>
> Oh, really, you anonymous-coward Usenet dipshit? If you want to
> promote the advantages of Linux and open-source software, feel free.
> If you want to troll by implying that there's no difference between
> legal and pirated Windows (and third-party for-profit software), you
> are a piece of shit, and will be treated as such.


Sorry the truth bothers you so much. There is no difference.
>
>
>>> Maybe it's simply social responsibility, to "begin
>>> to" (if that TV lingo means anything will actually change - I'm not
>>> holding my breath, to be clear) put a stop to this warez trash on the
>>> Net. It can't get rid of it, to be sure, but what's wrong with giving
>>> people the option to demonstrate their commitment to safe computing?

>> Windows, cracked, pirated or "genuine" and safe computing is an
>> oxymoron.

>
>
> So, I'm not safe, aren't I?


Hey, the man can read!

> I run Win7 without UAC, without file-
> system protection, under a non-passworded Admin account, without any
> anti-spyware/malware software, nor any software firewall.


Gosh, do you always make sure that everyone knows how stupid you are?

> Funny, when
> you don't make yourself paranoid as hell by downloading questionable
> b.s., and you use Windows Update and install third-party-software
> updates/upgrades, you can run Windows without all the jerk-off server-
> style Unix security crapola, not to mention having the advantage of
> not really needing *any* special security software.


You're infected and don't even know it.

>
> My Windows is fast, sleek, and much better suited to a desktop system
> than Linux.


Your opinion. I hope for your sake that you don't have any bank or
personal information on your computer.

>
>
>> To assume that all computer users are tech savvy is naive to
>> put it politely.

>
>
> I never implied that I assumed anything of the kind, idiot.


Yes, you did.

>
>
>> If you want to demonstrate your commitment to safe
>> computer, don't use Windows and don't let your friends use Windows.

>
>
> "Don't let your friends use Windows"? Do you even think about how
> arrogant you sound, before you click send?


Catchy phrase, eh what?

>
>
>> And if you're inclined to use torrents to download software, movies or
>> music, most anti malware/virus programs have a feature to scan what
>> you've downloaded, speaking of safe hex. Sticking your head in the sand
>> of MS FUD is NOT safe hex.

>
>
> Listen, you fucking reject, there are only two sides - commercial and
> open source. Warez is rejected by serious people on *both* sides.
> Period. Warez is a bad scene run by bad people. OSS is a *wonderful*
> contribution to safe computing generally, including under Windows
> (e.g. Firefox and OpenOffice). If you want to get in good with the
> open-source community, stop equating legitimate, and pirated, sources
> of commercial software.
>


I am not competing in a personality contest and need not be accepted
into any In Group. The facts are the facts and a pirated copy of Windows
will run just as good as a "genuine" copy will. So will PhotoShop,
Office, Studio Vegas or whatever. I have seen computers where all of the
above was pirated and they didn't have one single virus or malware on
the machine.

When you consider that 99% of all Windows users buy the OS preinstalled
on their new computer, who is MS targeting?

--
Alias
 
A

Alias

Flightless Bird
Frank wrote:
> Alias wrote:
>> Joel wrote:
>>> Alias <aka@masked&anonymous.com.invalid> wrote:
>>>> Char Jackson wrote:
>>>>> On Sun, 14 Feb 2010 00:52:43 -0500, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> They have a point. Maybe it's simply social responsibility, to
>>>>>> "begin
>>>>>> to" (if that TV lingo means anything will actually change - I'm not
>>>>>> holding my breath, to be clear) put a stop to this warez trash on the
>>>>>> Net. It can't get rid of it, to be sure, but what's wrong with
>>>>>> giving
>>>>>> people the option to demonstrate their commitment to safe computing?
>>>>> Didn't those people demonstrate all the necessary commitment when they
>>>>> bought a copy of Windows?
>>>> Of course not because Windows and safe computing just don't compute.
>>>
>>>
>>> No, *WAREZ* (including that from *counterfeiters*, which is what this
>>> software is targeting) and safe computing don't compute.
>>>

>>
>> I hate to bring the truth up but both pirated or genuine Windows and
>> safe computing don't compute. There is no difference between a good
>> pirated copy of Windows and a "genuine" copy other than the activation
>> crap has been disabled.
>>

>
> Oh? And you must be speaking from experience, right?


Yes.

> You're broke and
> only use pirated copies of Windows is that what you're saying, right?


Wrong.

> So
> you don't really have any way to compare a Genuine copy of Windows 7
> with the one you pirated, is that correct?


No, it isn't.

> Makes sense.


No, it doesn't.

>
>> BTW, warez disappeared a long time ago. Now it's done by P2P via
>> torrents. See http://www.thepiratebay.org/ for more information so the
>> next time you post about this, you don't look like such fool.

>
> And the fool you're trying to fool is ...yourself?
> Oops!
> BTW, you are the real fool in here troll.


More infantile insults. Ho hum.

--
Alias
 
J

Joel

Flightless Bird
Alias <aka@masked&anonymous.com.invalid> wrote:

>>> Of course not because Windows and safe computing just don't compute.

>>
>> No, *WAREZ* (including that from *counterfeiters*, which is what this
>> software is targeting) and safe computing don't compute.

>
>I hate to bring the truth up but both pirated or genuine Windows and
>safe computing don't compute.



If you feel that way, don't use Windows. If you want to make a case
to others not to use it, try being the slightest bit consistent,
instead of trolling with dangerous misinformation, asshole.


> There is no difference between a good
>pirated copy of Windows and a "genuine" copy other than the activation
>crap has been disabled.



Listen, my young non-friend, I know people who have pirated Windows,
who can reasonably be expected to determine the safety of their
sources. I wouldn't do it, personally, but I'm not suggesting that it
*necessarily* will be infected with anything. To suggest that it
isn't possible, however, is irresponsible - and that's what you're
doing, by equating it with legit copies.


>BTW, warez disappeared a long time ago. Now it's done by P2P via
>torrents. See http://www.thepiratebay.org/ for more information so the
>next time you post about this, you don't look like such fool.



So, warez stopped being warez because a new P2P medium was developed.
Very interesting. I sure feel like a fool, not to have made that
amazing leap of (il)logic.

--
Joel Crump
 
J

Joel

Flightless Bird
Alias <aka@masked&anonymous.com.invalid> wrote:

>>> No, they have spewing fear, uncertainty and doubt which you lap up like
>>> a good little sheeple.

>>
>> Oh, really, you anonymous-coward Usenet dipshit? If you want to
>> promote the advantages of Linux and open-source software, feel free.
>> If you want to troll by implying that there's no difference between
>> legal and pirated Windows (and third-party for-profit software), you
>> are a piece of shit, and will be treated as such.

>
>Sorry the truth bothers you so much. There is no difference.



So, I can just use one of the verifiable MSDN ISOs, and plug in some
OEM's Product Key, and it'll activate? Oh, *NO*, that's *NOT* the
case! I have to install a BIOS emulator, or crack activation itself!
Yeah, sounds like "no difference". :)


>>> Windows, cracked, pirated or "genuine" and safe computing is an
>>> oxymoron.

>>
>> So, I'm not safe, aren't I?

>
>Hey, the man can read!



Hey, the dipshit can troll!


>> I run Win7 without UAC, without file-
>> system protection, under a non-passworded Admin account, without any
>> anti-spyware/malware software, nor any software firewall.

>
>Gosh, do you always make sure that everyone knows how stupid you are?



Please do tell me how I'm going to magically get infected. I'm so
interested in your perspective.


>> Funny, when
>> you don't make yourself paranoid as hell by downloading questionable
>> b.s., and you use Windows Update and install third-party-software
>> updates/upgrades, you can run Windows without all the jerk-off server-
>> style Unix security crapola, not to mention having the advantage of
>> not really needing *any* special security software.

>
>You're infected and don't even know it.



You have cancer and don't even know it. Well, it *could* be true,
right?


>> My Windows is fast, sleek, and much better suited to a desktop system
>> than Linux.

>
>Your opinion.



Seems like a pretty reasonable opinion. There are advantages to
Linux, also, but it often doesn't even *allow* the lack of passwords
or running as root.


> I hope for your sake that you don't have any bank or
>personal information on your computer.



Quite the contrary. I use online banking/shopping all the time. I
don't worry, because I secure my system properly. Prevention is the
best medicine.


>>> To assume that all computer users are tech savvy is naive to
>>> put it politely.

>>
>> I never implied that I assumed anything of the kind, idiot.

>
>Yes, you did.



Utter bullshit. Anyone can learn to use Windows (*and* other
operating systems) safely. If you aren't part of increasing awareness
of that, including for non-Windows OSes/software, you're part of the
problem. Microsoft can take credit all the way back to 1998, with
Windows Update automatically discovering (and/or providing with XP/
etc.) OS updates.


>>> And if you're inclined to use torrents to download software, movies or
>>> music, most anti malware/virus programs have a feature to scan what
>>> you've downloaded, speaking of safe hex. Sticking your head in the sand
>>> of MS FUD is NOT safe hex.

>>
>> Listen, you fucking reject, there are only two sides - commercial and
>> open source. Warez is rejected by serious people on *both* sides.
>> Period. Warez is a bad scene run by bad people. OSS is a *wonderful*
>> contribution to safe computing generally, including under Windows
>> (e.g. Firefox and OpenOffice). If you want to get in good with the
>> open-source community, stop equating legitimate, and pirated, sources
>> of commercial software.

>
>I am not competing in a personality contest and need not be accepted
>into any In Group. The facts are the facts and a pirated copy of Windows
>will run just as good as a "genuine" copy will. So will PhotoShop,
>Office, Studio Vegas or whatever. I have seen computers where all of the
>above was pirated and they didn't have one single virus or malware on
>the machine.



Not the point. You, yourself, just made a big issue out of
non-techies using computers. They, in particular, are much more
likely to be the victim of tampered-with warez, than the techie-
pirates. Pick a *side*, troll.


>When you consider that 99% of all Windows users buy the OS preinstalled
>on their new computer, who is MS targeting?



Primarily victims of counterfeiting, as per their long-stated policy
(most of whom do indeed get it from a fly-by-night "OEM"). If that
weren't the case, it wouldn't be an *optional* update.

--
Joel Crump
 
F

Frank

Flightless Bird
alias, aka cody, the sick liar...

Alias wrote:
> Frank wrote:
>> Alias wrote:
>>> Frank wrote:
>>>> Alias wrote:
>>>>> Al Smith wrote:
>>>>>> Frank wrote:
>>>>>>> Al Smith wrote:
>>>>>>>> Alias wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Frank wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Al Smith wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Frank wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Al Smith wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> HiThere wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Every day between 4 and 4:30 my computer is on standby
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> while I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> exercise.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> During that time, it wakes itself up, hums and churns for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a few
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> minutes,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> then puts itself back on standby.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MS Essentials is programmed to scan on Wednesday at 10
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a.m. I've
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> turned on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the monitor when I hear the computer wake up to see if I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can see
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doing, but nothing is showing. Any idea what it could be?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> new
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Acer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Aspire Core 2 Quad, Win 7 Home, with only MS Essentials as my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> antivirus/antispyware. Just curious what's going on behind
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> scene.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "M. S., phone home ..."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> You actually think avast doesn't "phone home?
>>>>>>>>>>>> Think again pal...all of them do...they must in order to update
>>>>>>>>>>>> themselves.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I don't know about you, but I let nothing update automatically.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> -Al-
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I let everything update and install automatically except Windows,
>>>>>>>>>> where I have updates set to automatically download and then
>>>>>>>>>> inform
>>>>>>>>>> that updates are available and ready to install. That way if a
>>>>>>>>>> re-boot
>>>>>>>>>> is necessary, I'm ready for it to happen.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> And the reason you don't go to the Microsoft Updates web site
>>>>>>>>> is because
>>>>>>>>> you run pirated copies of Windows, right?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That's quite an insulting thing to write, out of nowhere. Where did
>>>>>>>> that come from?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -Al-
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Be careful Al, when cornered alias bites! :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't even know the dude.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Al-
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't bite. Frank's the junk yard guard dog here, not me.
>>>>>
>>>> And you're fooling who...fool?
>>>
>>> It's just the facts.

>>
>> Your facts...certainly not the real facts.
>>
>> You're entitled to your own opinion but you're not
>>> entitled to your own facts.
>>>

>> Take your own advice liar!

>

Yet the moron can't cite one single lie I've told.
All he can do is
repeat "liar, liar, liar" like a deranged drooling baboon.

Lets start with the fact that you deny being a linux troll, ok? Then we
can also cite you're denying you hate MS, ok? Then we can move on to the
more parochial lies you have told like you were in the 101st Airborne,
you make $14,000 per week,.etc., etc., etc.
Everyone in here has seen you tell and repeat these obvious lies so they
are nothing new. The fact that you remain in this Windows ng, telling
the same lies over and over again while denying you are lying and at the
same time spreading your MS hatred and FUD and pushing that POS toy os
you're in love with and then claiming you're not doing anything like
that...well...only a mentally deranged drooling baboon lying cock
sucking son of a cheap whore would believe you.
Oops...you believe yourself don't you?
Proof that you are a pathological liar, liar.
Got it cody?
 
F

Frank

Flightless Bird
Alias wrote:
> Frank wrote:
>> Alias wrote:
>>> Frank wrote:
>>>> Alias wrote:
>>>>> Al Smith wrote:
>>>>>> Alias wrote:
>>>>>>> Frank wrote:
>>>>>>>> Al Smith wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Frank wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Al Smith wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> HiThere wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Every day between 4 and 4:30 my computer is on standby while I
>>>>>>>>>>>> exercise.
>>>>>>>>>>>> During that time, it wakes itself up, hums and churns for a few
>>>>>>>>>>>> minutes,
>>>>>>>>>>>> then puts itself back on standby.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> MS Essentials is programmed to scan on Wednesday at 10 a.m.
>>>>>>>>>>>> I've
>>>>>>>>>>>> turned on
>>>>>>>>>>>> the monitor when I hear the computer wake up to see if I can
>>>>>>>>>>>> see what
>>>>>>>>>>>> it's
>>>>>>>>>>>> doing, but nothing is showing. Any idea what it could be?
>>>>>>>>>>>> It's a new
>>>>>>>>>>>> Acer
>>>>>>>>>>>> Aspire Core 2 Quad, Win 7 Home, with only MS Essentials as my
>>>>>>>>>>>> antivirus/antispyware. Just curious what's going on behind
>>>>>>>>>>>> the scene.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "M. S., phone home ..."
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> You actually think avast doesn't "phone home?
>>>>>>>>>> Think again pal...all of them do...they must in order to update
>>>>>>>>>> themselves.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I don't know about you, but I let nothing update automatically.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -Al-
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I let everything update and install automatically except Windows,
>>>>>>>> where I have updates set to automatically download and then inform
>>>>>>>> that updates are available and ready to install. That way if a
>>>>>>>> re-boot
>>>>>>>> is necessary, I'm ready for it to happen.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And the reason you don't go to the Microsoft Updates web site is
>>>>>>> because
>>>>>>> you run pirated copies of Windows, right?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That's quite an insulting thing to write, out of nowhere. Where
>>>>>> did that come from?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Al-
>>>>>
>>>>> There's a long history. Frank and I have a special relationship. He
>>>>> lies and I tell the truth.
>>>>>
>>>> Projecting again huh?
>>>
>>> Lying again, eh?

>>
>> You sure are.
>>>
>>>> Everyone in here knows that you are a pathological LIAR...
>>>
>>> You post that but you have yet to cite one single lie I've told.

>>
>> Many of us have cited a multitude of lies you're spouted numerous
>> times and yet you keep on lying.

>
> No, you have posted statements that you say are lies but aren't.


LIAR!
>
>> That is a sure sign of a pathological liar like you. You know it, I
>> know it and everyone in here knows it.
>> So who do you think you're fooling, fool?

>
> Who do you think *you're* fooling?


Projecting again LIAR!
>
>>>
>>>> and a spamming, linturd troll.
>>>
>>> Your third grade mentality is raising its ugly head again.

>>
>> It the third grade what you tried yet failed to achieve? Sure seems
>> that way LIAR!

>
> Not what I wrote.


Just what you implied.

Try a remedial reading class at your local community
> college.
>


Is that where you learned to liar in almost proper English, LIAR?
 
F

Frank

Flightless Bird
Alias wrote:
> Frank wrote:
>> Alias wrote:
>>> Frank wrote:
>>>> Alias wrote:
>>>>> Frank wrote:
>>>>>> Alias wrote:
>>>>>>> Pulse wrote:
>>>>>>>> Huh? You are out of it Alias. Maybe it is time you stop posting
>>>>>>>> in the Windows newsgroups if you want to be that misinformed.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> For your information, Windows Vista and Windows 7 users don't go
>>>>>>>> to the Microsoft Updates site to get their updates - it's all
>>>>>>>> done onboard. Vista was released years ago - you should know
>>>>>>>> this already. Get up to date, man, or get lost.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The method is slightly different but the result is the same. You
>>>>>>> can use auto or use an applet to go get and choose them. Frank
>>>>>>> doesn't choose WAT. No update can be gotten "on board". Even
>>>>>>> Microsoft calls this applet Windows Updates and I suspect there
>>>>>>> is a genuine check in the process.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Alias" <aka@masked&anonymous.com.invalid> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:hl4rp2$noh$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> And the reason you don't go to the Microsoft Updates web site
>>>>>>>>> is because you run pirated copies of Windows, right?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Alias
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hey asshole, I use both auto update and Windows Updates. You
>>>>>> stupid pile of useless lying shit. You have no idea what you're
>>>>>> talking about.
>>>>>> Moron!
>>>>>
>>>>> Yawn.
>>>>>
>>>> Typical lying response.
>>>> oops!
>>>
>>> No, Frank, I really did yawn.
>>>

>> Reading comprehension problems cody? Yawning and lying at the same
>> time is one of your forte.

>
> Yet you can't cite one lie I've told.


LIAR!

I can cite dozens of yours.

More of your lies, LIAR?
>
 
F

Frank

Flightless Bird
Alias wrote:
> Frank wrote:
>> Alias wrote:
>>> Joel wrote:
>>>> Alias <aka@masked&anonymous.com.invalid> wrote:
>>>>> Char Jackson wrote:
>>>>>> On Sun, 14 Feb 2010 00:52:43 -0500, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> They have a point. Maybe it's simply social responsibility, to
>>>>>>> "begin
>>>>>>> to" (if that TV lingo means anything will actually change - I'm not
>>>>>>> holding my breath, to be clear) put a stop to this warez trash on
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> Net. It can't get rid of it, to be sure, but what's wrong with
>>>>>>> giving
>>>>>>> people the option to demonstrate their commitment to safe computing?
>>>>>> Didn't those people demonstrate all the necessary commitment when
>>>>>> they
>>>>>> bought a copy of Windows?
>>>>> Of course not because Windows and safe computing just don't compute.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> No, *WAREZ* (including that from *counterfeiters*, which is what this
>>>> software is targeting) and safe computing don't compute.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I hate to bring the truth up but both pirated or genuine Windows and
>>> safe computing don't compute. There is no difference between a good
>>> pirated copy of Windows and a "genuine" copy other than the
>>> activation crap has been disabled.
>>>

>>
>> Oh? And you must be speaking from experience, right?

>
> Yes.
>

Oops! The truth...from you? Admitting you're a thief.
Great! We're making progress.

>> You're broke and only use pirated copies of Windows is that what
>> you're saying, right?

>
> Wrong.


Liar, you just admitted you're broke and use pirated copies of Windows.
Oops!
>
>> So you don't really have any way to compare a Genuine copy of Windows
>> 7 with the one you pirated, is that correct?

>
> No, it isn't.


Now you're confusing your own lies. You got mixed up right? Can't
remember which lie you told about which lie huh?
Hahahaha!
>
>> Makes sense.

>
> No, it doesn't.


Maybe to a known and admitted lying POS like you it doesn't, but to
normal people it makes perfectly god sense. Sorry!
>
>>
>>> BTW, warez disappeared a long time ago. Now it's done by P2P via
>>> torrents. See http://www.thepiratebay.org/ for more information so
>>> the next time you post about this, you don't look like such fool.

>>
>> And the fool you're trying to fool is ...yourself?
>> Oops!
>> BTW, you are the real fool in here troll.

>
> More infantile insults.


Can't deal with the truth huh?

Ho hum.
>


Yeah, HO fucking hum, LIAR!
 
F

Frank

Flightless Bird
alias the liar gets caught...again!

Alias wrote:
<--snipped the lies form the lying cock sucker-->
>
> When you consider that 99% of all Windows users buy the OS preinstalled
> on their new computer, who is MS targeting?


You! You *DUMB FUCK*!
 
C

Char Jackson

Flightless Bird
On Sun, 14 Feb 2010 12:58:58 -0500, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:

>Alias wrote:
>
>>> My Windows is fast, sleek, and much better suited to a desktop system
>>> than Linux.

>>
>> I hope for your sake that you don't have any bank or
>>personal information on your computer.

>
>Quite the contrary. I use online banking/shopping all the time. I
>don't worry, because I secure my system properly. Prevention is the
>best medicine.


You said in an earlier post that you don't secure your system *at
all*, but in this post you say you secure your system properly. Are
you referring to two different systems?
 
J

Joel

Flightless Bird
Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> wrote:

>>Quite the contrary. I use online banking/shopping all the time. I
>>don't worry, because I secure my system properly. Prevention is the
>>best medicine.

>
>You said in an earlier post that you don't secure your system *at
>all*, but in this post you say you secure your system properly. Are
>you referring to two different systems?



Uh, do you mean the earlier post where I said I don't use any
untrustworthy software? It's fun being wrong, isn't it!

--
Joel Crump
 
C

Char Jackson

Flightless Bird
On Sun, 14 Feb 2010 02:46:25 -0500, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:

>Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> wrote:
>
>>>"So, what are the risks of activation exploits? Searching for,
>>>downloading, or installing activation exploits or counterfeit software
>>>on the Internet is risky, because sites that advertise these pirated
>>>products often contain malware, viruses, and Trojans, which are found
>>>bundled with or directly built into the activation exploit or
>>>counterfeit software."
>>>
>>>They have a point. Maybe it's simply social responsibility, to "begin
>>>to" (if that TV lingo means anything will actually change - I'm not
>>>holding my breath, to be clear) put a stop to this warez trash on the
>>>Net. It can't get rid of it, to be sure, but what's wrong with giving
>>>people the option to demonstrate their commitment to safe computing?

>>
>>
>>Didn't those people demonstrate all the necessary commitment when they
>>bought a copy of Windows? Why should their commitment be open ended?

>
>
>Because it's something that some of us actually feel passionately
>about.


Yes, but how does your passion have anything to do with it? You're
just another user like the rest of us, right? I'm equally passionate,
but I'm 180 degrees opposed to your position. Passionate users have no
bearing here. This was 100% a Microsoft decision, and a bad one at
that.

>Moreover, as to how this deals with the risks of illegal software
>generally, I think it implicitly sets a good example.


Good example? Wow, we really are 180 degrees out of sync on this.

>I don't buy software I won't use.


I flat out don't believe that. The flip side of your statement is that
you use all the software you buy, and anyone who says that simply
isn't being honest. We've all bought software that disappointed us to
some degree. We put it aside, do more homework, buy something else,
and move on.

>It's bewildering how typical warez lamers will


I don't pretend to know much about typical warez lamers, but your
description doesn't sound right to me.
 
A

Alias

Flightless Bird
Re: alias, aka cody, the sick liar...

Frank wrote:
> Alias wrote:
>> Frank wrote:
>>> Alias wrote:
>>>> Frank wrote:
>>>>> Alias wrote:
>>>>>> Al Smith wrote:
>>>>>>> Frank wrote:
>>>>>>>> Al Smith wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Alias wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Frank wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Al Smith wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Frank wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Al Smith wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> HiThere wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Every day between 4 and 4:30 my computer is on standby
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> while I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> exercise.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> During that time, it wakes itself up, hums and churns for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a few
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> minutes,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> then puts itself back on standby.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MS Essentials is programmed to scan on Wednesday at 10
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a.m. I've
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> turned on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the monitor when I hear the computer wake up to see if I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can see
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doing, but nothing is showing. Any idea what it could be?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> new
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Acer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Aspire Core 2 Quad, Win 7 Home, with only MS Essentials
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> antivirus/antispyware. Just curious what's going on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> behind the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> scene.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "M. S., phone home ..."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> You actually think avast doesn't "phone home?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Think again pal...all of them do...they must in order to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> update
>>>>>>>>>>>>> themselves.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't know about you, but I let nothing update automatically.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> -Al-
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I let everything update and install automatically except
>>>>>>>>>>> Windows,
>>>>>>>>>>> where I have updates set to automatically download and then
>>>>>>>>>>> inform
>>>>>>>>>>> that updates are available and ready to install. That way if
>>>>>>>>>>> a re-boot
>>>>>>>>>>> is necessary, I'm ready for it to happen.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> And the reason you don't go to the Microsoft Updates web site
>>>>>>>>>> is because
>>>>>>>>>> you run pirated copies of Windows, right?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> That's quite an insulting thing to write, out of nowhere. Where
>>>>>>>>> did
>>>>>>>>> that come from?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -Al-
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Be careful Al, when cornered alias bites! :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I don't even know the dude.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -Al-
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't bite. Frank's the junk yard guard dog here, not me.
>>>>>>
>>>>> And you're fooling who...fool?
>>>>
>>>> It's just the facts.
>>>
>>> Your facts...certainly not the real facts.
>>>
>>> You're entitled to your own opinion but you're not
>>>> entitled to your own facts.
>>>>
>>> Take your own advice liar!

>>

> Yet the moron can't cite one single lie I've told.
> All he can do is
> repeat "liar, liar, liar" like a deranged drooling baboon.
>
> Lets start with the fact that you deny being a linux troll, ok? Then we
> can also cite you're denying you hate MS, ok? Then we can move on to the
> more parochial lies you have told like you were in the 101st Airborne,
> you make $14,000 per week,.etc., etc., etc.
> Everyone in here has seen you tell and repeat these obvious lies so they
> are nothing new. The fact that you remain in this Windows ng, telling
> the same lies over and over again while denying you are lying and at the
> same time spreading your MS hatred and FUD and pushing that POS toy os
> you're in love with and then claiming you're not doing anything like
> that...well...only a mentally deranged drooling baboon lying cock
> sucking son of a cheap whore would believe you.
> Oops...you believe yourself don't you?
> Proof that you are a pathological liar, liar.
> Got it cody?
>


You haven't proved anything except that you lie.

--
Alias
 
A

Alias

Flightless Bird
Frank wrote:
> Alias wrote:
>> Frank wrote:
>>> Alias wrote:
>>>> Joel wrote:
>>>>> Alias <aka@masked&anonymous.com.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>> Char Jackson wrote:
>>>>>>> On Sun, 14 Feb 2010 00:52:43 -0500, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> They have a point. Maybe it's simply social responsibility, to
>>>>>>>> "begin
>>>>>>>> to" (if that TV lingo means anything will actually change - I'm not
>>>>>>>> holding my breath, to be clear) put a stop to this warez trash
>>>>>>>> on the
>>>>>>>> Net. It can't get rid of it, to be sure, but what's wrong with
>>>>>>>> giving
>>>>>>>> people the option to demonstrate their commitment to safe
>>>>>>>> computing?
>>>>>>> Didn't those people demonstrate all the necessary commitment when
>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>> bought a copy of Windows?
>>>>>> Of course not because Windows and safe computing just don't compute.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> No, *WAREZ* (including that from *counterfeiters*, which is what this
>>>>> software is targeting) and safe computing don't compute.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I hate to bring the truth up but both pirated or genuine Windows and
>>>> safe computing don't compute. There is no difference between a good
>>>> pirated copy of Windows and a "genuine" copy other than the
>>>> activation crap has been disabled.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Oh? And you must be speaking from experience, right?

>>
>> Yes.
>>

> Oops! The truth...from you? Admitting you're a thief.


Not at all.

> Great! We're making progress.


No, you're not.

>
>>> You're broke and only use pirated copies of Windows is that what
>>> you're saying, right?

>>
>> Wrong.

>
> Liar, you just admitted you're broke and use pirated copies of Windows.
> Oops!


Um, no I didn't.

>>
>>> So you don't really have any way to compare a Genuine copy of Windows
>>> 7 with the one you pirated, is that correct?

>>
>> No, it isn't.

>
> Now you're confusing your own lies. You got mixed up right? Can't
> remember which lie you told about which lie huh?
> Hahahaha!


Not my fault you don't understand.

>>
>>> Makes sense.

>>
>> No, it doesn't.

>
> Maybe to a known and admitted lying POS like you it doesn't, but to
> normal people it makes perfectly god sense. Sorry!


No, it doesn't because you think you're referring to something that
doesn't exist.

>>
>>>
>>>> BTW, warez disappeared a long time ago. Now it's done by P2P via
>>>> torrents. See http://www.thepiratebay.org/ for more information so
>>>> the next time you post about this, you don't look like such fool.
>>>
>>> And the fool you're trying to fool is ...yourself?
>>> Oops!
>>> BTW, you are the real fool in here troll.

>>
>> More infantile insults.

>
> Can't deal with the truth huh?


What truth?

>
> Ho hum.
>>

>
> Yeah, HO fucking hum, LIAR!


No lies here, wanker. Remember, we repair computers of *other* people.
Can you connect the dots or are you just going to repeat the above again
like a fucking robot?

--
Alias
 
A

Alias

Flightless Bird
Joel wrote:
> Alias <aka@masked&anonymous.com.invalid> wrote:
>
>>>> Of course not because Windows and safe computing just don't compute.
>>> No, *WAREZ* (including that from *counterfeiters*, which is what this
>>> software is targeting) and safe computing don't compute.

>> I hate to bring the truth up but both pirated or genuine Windows and
>> safe computing don't compute.

>
>
> If you feel that way, don't use Windows.


I only use Windows for gaming.

> If you want to make a case
> to others not to use it, try being the slightest bit consistent,
> instead of trolling with dangerous misinformation, asshole.


Like what, pray tell?

>
>
>> There is no difference between a good
>> pirated copy of Windows and a "genuine" copy other than the activation
>> crap has been disabled.

>
>
> Listen, my young non-friend, I know people who have pirated Windows,
> who can reasonably be expected to determine the safety of their
> sources. I wouldn't do it, personally, but I'm not suggesting that it
> *necessarily* will be infected with anything. To suggest that it
> isn't possible, however, is irresponsible - and that's what you're
> doing, by equating it with legit copies.


It's possible. Note I wrote, and I quote, "a good pirated copy of Windows".

>
>
>> BTW, warez disappeared a long time ago. Now it's done by P2P via
>> torrents. See http://www.thepiratebay.org/ for more information so the
>> next time you post about this, you don't look like such fool.

>
>
> So, warez stopped being warez because a new P2P medium was developed.
> Very interesting. I sure feel like a fool, not to have made that
> amazing leap of (il)logic.
>


Warez was the name of a group of hackers who are sitting in jail right
now. No illogic involved, just your ignorance.

--
Alias
 
E

Eric Allen

Flightless Bird

> Warez was the name of a group of hackers who are sitting in jail right
> now. No illogic involved, just your ignorance.
>

and on the usenet rooms of irc wasn't it?

--
--
Eric
 
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