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Unknown

Flightless Bird
Tell that to Twayne.
"Tim Slattery" <Slattery_T@bls.gov> wrote in message
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> "Unknown" <unknown@unknown.kom> wrote:
>
>>Take a blue colored .ini file. It isn't unzipped. It is opened by Notepad.

>
> Try to open a blue colored *.txt file in WinZip. It can't do it
> because it's not a zip file.
>
> --
> Tim Slattery
> Slattery_T@bls.gov
> http://members.cox.net/slatteryt
 
J

Jose

Flightless Bird
On Feb 25, 10:30 am, "joe" <j...@ebox.com> wrote:
> Thanks Bob and Tim. I was not aware of this and both of those situations
> apply to me.
> i.e.  There are files which are infrequently accessed and I use 'disk
> cleanup' all the time.
> You learn something new every day :)
>
> "Bob I" <bire...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:uj1GrOitKHA.4220@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>
>
>
> > Yes if you run disk cleanup (see below)
> >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disk_Cleanup

>
> > joe wrote:

>
> >> Does the OS do this automatically and if so under what circumstances ?

>
> >> "Tim Slattery" <Slatter...@bls.gov> wrote in message
> >>news:6eoao5h110aceg6vu58t7iv4uioro6m9m4@4ax.com...

>
> >>>"Twayne" <nob...@spamcop.net> wrote:

>
> >>>>IN XP's case, zip = compressed = zipped ... .

>
> >>>>A zipped file is compressed, but a compressed file is not necessarily
> >>>>zipped
> >>>>as there are other methods for compressing file sizes.  In the caseof
> >>>>XP,
> >>>>with it compresses, it creates a zipped file.

>
> >>>I don't think so. A file whose name is shown in blue has been
> >>>compressed by the OS. This is *not* zip compression, it's something
> >>>that the Windows OS does. It's not as drastic as zip, therefore
> >>>doesn't take as long to do or to undo.

>
> >>>WinXP also has built-in support for zipping and unzipping files but
> >>>it's a totally different thing.

>
> >>>--
> >>>Tim Slattery
> >>>Slatter...@bls.gov
> >>>http://members.cox.net/slatteryt


As you accumulate files, you may learn to dislike disk cleanup as it
takes longer and longer to complete. I think it is old fashioned and
from the days when disk space was really expensive. Here is a popular
tweak to speed up disk cleanup:

When you run Disk Cleanup, it calculates how much space you could save
on your HDD if you choose to compress
"old" files. If you have a million files XP thinks might need
compressing, it could take a long time to
figure that out and your system could appear to stop responding.
Sometimes users interpret this as a problem
with their system, but Windows is doing what you tell it to do.

It also may really be hung for some reason and even Microsoft tells
you how to stop this check for file compression in a knowledgebase
article (maybe they don't like it either).

If you have no interest in compressing old files, you can have Disk
Cleanup skip that calculation entirely.

You'll be cleaning up your system in no time when that check for files
that might need compressing is removed.

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/812248
 
U

Unknown

Flightless Bird
It is my belief you just proved Twayne wrong------------------again.
"Jose" <jose_ease@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> I am not taking sides by responding to Unknown - just posting a link
> to a perhaps helpful article!
>
> What is the difference between a compressed file and a zipped file?
>
> http://www.blackviper.com/Articles/OS/XPcompress/xpcompress.htm
 
G

Gordon

Flightless Bird
"Twayne" <nobody@spamcop.net> wrote in message
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>
> If you check, you'll find the blue is zipped/compressed files


No, not zipped, just compressed. If the file was zipped it would have the
"zipped" icon.
 
B

Bill in Co.

Flightless Bird
First Twayne's got to acknowledge and overcome his registry cleaner
(oil-change) mentality. You know, like it's needed ... like an oil change
is - to improve the car's performance. ROFL!

Unknown wrote:
> It is my belief you just proved Twayne wrong------------------again.
>
> "Jose" <jose_ease@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:dd9acbe1-a2c3-462e-a214-1caa1561608a@d2g2000yqa.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> I am not taking sides by responding to Unknown - just posting a link
>> to a perhaps helpful article!
>>
>> What is the difference between a compressed file and a zipped file?
>>
>> http://www.blackviper.com/Articles/OS/XPcompress/xpcompress.htm
 
T

Twayne

Flightless Bird
In news:ev$Bk0ltKHA.5936@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl,
Unknown <unknown@unknown.kom> typed:
> Take a blue colored .ini file. It isn't unzipped. It is opened by
> Notepad. Try it.


Did. It's exactly as I said it would be. If you don't see it, then y ou have
the defaulted ON feature turned OFF.

HTH,

Twayne



> "Twayne" <nobody@spamcop.net> wrote in message
> news:-Ox4G4gltKHA.4636@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> In news:uWtdfYYtKHA.3656@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl,
>> Unknown <unknown@unknown.kom> typed:
>>> Well said Tim. That was my belief also.

>>
>> You're in error with your belief. It's easy enough to check out; try
>> it. HTH,
>>
>> Twayne
>>
>>
>>
>>> "Tim Slattery" <Slattery_T@bls.gov> wrote in message
>>> news:6eoao5h110aceg6vu58t7iv4uioro6m9m4@4ax.com...
>>>> "Twayne" <nobody@spamcop.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> IN XP's case, zip = compressed = zipped ... .
>>>>>
>>>>> A zipped file is compressed, but a compressed file is not
>>>>> necessarily zipped
>>>>> as there are other methods for compressing file sizes. In the
>>>>> case of XP, with it compresses, it creates a zipped file.
>>>>
>>>> I don't think so. A file whose name is shown in blue has been
>>>> compressed by the OS. This is *not* zip compression, it's something
>>>> that the Windows OS does. It's not as drastic as zip, therefore
>>>> doesn't take as long to do or to undo.
>>>>
>>>> WinXP also has built-in support for zipping and unzipping files but
>>>> it's a totally different thing.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Tim Slattery
>>>> Slattery_T@bls.gov
>>>> http://members.cox.net/slatteryt
 
T

Twayne

Flightless Bird
In news:ckpdo51outi0rdh6t147a2ijdjjaq91t55@4ax.com,
Tim Slattery <Slattery_T@bls.gov> typed:
> "Unknown" <unknown@unknown.kom> wrote:
>
>> Take a blue colored .ini file. It isn't unzipped. It is opened by
>> Notepad.

>
> Try to open a blue colored *.txt file in WinZip. It can't do it
> because it's not a zip file.


Redirecting the conversation are we? lol, OK.

--
--
Life is the only real counselor; wisdom unfiltered
through personal experience does not become a
part of the moral tissue.
 
T

Twayne

Flightless Bird
In news:dd9acbe1-a2c3-462e-a214-1caa1561608a@d2g2000yqa.googlegroups.com,
Jose <jose_ease@yahoo.com> typed:
> I am not taking sides by responding to Unknown - just posting a link
> to a perhaps helpful article!
>
> What is the difference between a compressed file and a zipped file?
>
> http://www.blackviper.com/Articles/OS/XPcompress/xpcompress.htm


No problem. I will say though, that BlackViper is an excellent web site!
--
Life is the only real counselor; wisdom unfiltered
through personal experience does not become a
part of the moral tissue.
 
T

Twayne

Flightless Bird
In news:ewLI$ymtKHA.4332@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl,
Gordon <gordonbparker@yahoo.com> typed:
> "Twayne" <nobody@spamcop.net> wrote in message
> news:-OVZuTgltKHA.5940@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>
>> If you check, you'll find the blue is zipped/compressed files

>
> No, not zipped, just compressed. If the file was zipped it would have
> the "zipped" icon.


No. It's called a "legacy" format of pkware's zip programs. The icon can be
anything MS or you want it to be.

--
--
Life is the only real counselor; wisdom unfiltered
through personal experience does not become a
part of the moral tissue.
 
B

Bruce Chambers

Flightless Bird
joe wrote:
> Does the OS do this automatically and if so under what circumstances ?
>
>



By design, WinXP automatically compresses files that do not get used
frequently, and, if you've left the default settings intact, displays
those files in blue. If you wish to change this behavior, in Windows
Explorer, click Tools > Folder Options > View > Advanced settings: Show
encrypted or compressed NTFS files in color.


--

Bruce Chambers

Help us help you:
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/555375

They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin

Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand Russell

The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has
killed a great many philosophers.
~ Denis Diderot
 
J

John John - MVP

Flightless Bird
Twayne wrote:
> In news:ewLI$ymtKHA.4332@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl,
> Gordon <gordonbparker@yahoo.com> typed:
>> "Twayne" <nobody@spamcop.net> wrote in message
>> news:-OVZuTgltKHA.5940@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>
>>> If you check, you'll find the blue is zipped/compressed files

>>
>> No, not zipped, just compressed. If the file was zipped it would have
>> the "zipped" icon.

>
> No. It's called a "legacy" format of pkware's zip programs.


No it isn't, the files are not zipped. NTFS compression is not the same
thing as zip.

John
 
U

Unknown

Flightless Bird
I believe that is precisely why he has so many HD's.
He needs them so he can find at least one to use as restore media.
He runs registry cleaners so often he doesn't know which backup is good.
Didn't he say he had five HD's?
"Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:-OCZB0ymtKHA.3536@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> First Twayne's got to acknowledge and overcome his registry cleaner
> (oil-change) mentality. You know, like it's needed ... like an oil
> change is - to improve the car's performance. ROFL!
>
> Unknown wrote:
>> It is my belief you just proved Twayne wrong------------------again.
>>
>> "Jose" <jose_ease@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:dd9acbe1-a2c3-462e-a214-1caa1561608a@d2g2000yqa.googlegroups.com...
>>>
>>> I am not taking sides by responding to Unknown - just posting a link
>>> to a perhaps helpful article!
>>>
>>> What is the difference between a compressed file and a zipped file?
>>>
>>> http://www.blackviper.com/Articles/OS/XPcompress/xpcompress.htm

>
>
 
U

Unknown

Flightless Bird
He's been running his registry cleaners again.
"John John - MVP" <audetweld@nbnot.nb.ca> wrote in message
news:eFyFpQptKHA.3360@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Twayne wrote:
>> In news:ewLI$ymtKHA.4332@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl,
>> Gordon <gordonbparker@yahoo.com> typed:
>>> "Twayne" <nobody@spamcop.net> wrote in message
>>> news:-OVZuTgltKHA.5940@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>
>>>> If you check, you'll find the blue is zipped/compressed files
>>>
>>> No, not zipped, just compressed. If the file was zipped it would have
>>> the "zipped" icon.

>>
>> No. It's called a "legacy" format of pkware's zip programs.

>
> No it isn't, the files are not zipped. NTFS compression is not the same
> thing as zip.
>
> John
 
J

Jose

Flightless Bird
On Feb 25, 8:45 pm, Bruce Chambers <bchamb...@cable0ne.n3t> wrote:
> joe wrote:
> > Does the OS do this automatically and if so under what circumstances ?

>
>     By design, WinXP automatically compresses files that do not get used
> frequently, and, if you've left the default settings intact, displays
> those files in blue.  If you wish to change this behavior, in Windows
> Explorer, click Tools > Folder Options > View > Advanced settings: Show
> encrypted or compressed NTFS files in color.
>
> --
>
> Bruce Chambers
>
> Help us help you:http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/555375
>
> They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
> safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin
>
> Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand Russell
>
> The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has
> killed a great many philosophers.
> ~ Denis Diderot


I would be curious to know how Windows decides what files I do not use
frequently. To do that, it would seem that it would have to know
something about every file on my system and somehow know when the last
time I used it. How does that work? Does it check all my files/
drives?

I'm not saying it does't, I just would like know how it determines
that and no.. - I have not checked every file on my system for blue
either

I have never seen a blue file on my system that I did not compress
myself for testing and this same XP has been installed for almost 5
years. Maybe it is somehow broken.
 
U

Unknown

Flightless Bird
Suggestion: Do a disk cleanup with the option 'compress old files' checked.
It will then compress old files that you yourself did not personally do.
Widows keeps tract of many facts of files. How do you think (when doing a
backup)
only those files that changed are backed up after the initial backup is
done.? .
"Jose" <jose_ease@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:9e92295e-0f44-4c0e-a648-fb8cd695c9be@g7g2000yqe.googlegroups.com...
On Feb 25, 8:45 pm, Bruce Chambers <bchamb...@cable0ne.n3t> wrote:
> joe wrote:
> > Does the OS do this automatically and if so under what circumstances ?

>
> By design, WinXP automatically compresses files that do not get used
> frequently, and, if you've left the default settings intact, displays
> those files in blue. If you wish to change this behavior, in Windows
> Explorer, click Tools > Folder Options > View > Advanced settings: Show
> encrypted or compressed NTFS files in color.
>
> --
>
> Bruce Chambers
>
> Help us help you:http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/555375
>
> They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
> safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin
>
> Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand
> Russell
>
> The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has
> killed a great many philosophers.
> ~ Denis Diderot


I would be curious to know how Windows decides what files I do not use
frequently. To do that, it would seem that it would have to know
something about every file on my system and somehow know when the last
time I used it. How does that work? Does it check all my files/
drives?

I'm not saying it does't, I just would like know how it determines
that and no.. - I have not checked every file on my system for blue
either

I have never seen a blue file on my system that I did not compress
myself for testing and this same XP has been installed for almost 5
years. Maybe it is somehow broken.
 
B

Bruce Chambers

Flightless Bird
Jose wrote:
>
>
> I would be curious to know how Windows decides what files I do not use
> frequently. To do that, it would seem that it would have to know
> something about every file on my system and somehow know when the last
> time I used it. How does that work? Does it check all my files/
> drives?
>



If you were to open Windows Exlporer, right-click on any file and then
select "Properties," you'd see, on the General tab, the dates when the
file was Created, Modified, and/or last Accessed. While I don't know
the specific technical details, nor the specific length of time a file
must remain unused, I believe that the Last Accessed date is used.


> I'm not saying it does't, I just would like know how it determines
> that and no.. - I have not checked every file on my system for blue
> either
>
> I have never seen a blue file on my system that I did not compress
> myself for testing and this same XP has been installed for almost 5
> years. Maybe it is somehow broken.



Or perhaps you turned off the default behavior? That would be easy
enough to check: Windows > Explorer, click Tools > Folder Options >
View > Advanced settings: Show > encrypted or compressed NTFS files in
color.


--

Bruce Chambers

Help us help you:
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/555375

They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin

Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand Russell

The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has
killed a great many philosophers.
~ Denis Diderot
 
U

Unknown

Flightless Bird
What nerve making a comment such as that! You're ALWAYS emphatic but not
sure. (although you THINK you are)
"Twayne" <nobody@spamcop.net> wrote in message
news:-OVZuTgltKHA.5940@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> In news:6eoao5h110aceg6vu58t7iv4uioro6m9m4@4ax.com,
> Tim Slattery <Slattery_T@bls.gov> typed:
>> "Twayne" <nobody@spamcop.net> wrote:
>>
>>> IN XP's case, zip = compressed = zipped ... .
>>>
>>> A zipped file is compressed, but a compressed file is not
>>> necessarily zipped as there are other methods for compressing file
>>> sizes. In the case of XP, with it compresses, it creates a zipped
>>> file.

>>
>> I don't think so. A file whose name is shown in blue has been
>> compressed by the OS. This is *not* zip compression, it's something
>> that the Windows OS does. It's not as drastic as zip, therefore
>> doesn't take as long to do or to undo.
>>
>> WinXP also has built-in support for zipping and unzipping files but
>> it's a totally different thing.

>
> If you check, you'll find the blue is zipped/compressed files and green is
> encrypted files. You can set/adjust these from the Properties menu for
> each file you right click Properties and choose Advanced for.
> Try it and see; You'll find that: Blue *IS* zip compression for XP NTFS
> drives. Compress or encrypt a file and see what color it changes to. The
> color indicator can also be turned off so they all display in black is so
> desired.
>
> In the future, please be more sure of your responses before becoming
> emphatic.
>
> HTH,
>
> Twayne
>
>
>
>
> --
> --
> Life is the only real counselor; wisdom unfiltered
> through personal experience does not become a
> part of the moral tissue.
 
B

Bill in Co.

Flightless Bird
Unknown wrote:
> What nerve making a comment such as that! You're ALWAYS emphatic but not
> sure. (although you THINK you are)


No, he's sure, but he's often misinformed about some issues.

> "Twayne" <nobody@spamcop.net> wrote in message
> news:-OVZuTgltKHA.5940@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> In news:6eoao5h110aceg6vu58t7iv4uioro6m9m4@4ax.com,
>> Tim Slattery <Slattery_T@bls.gov> typed:
>>> "Twayne" <nobody@spamcop.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> IN XP's case, zip = compressed = zipped ... .
>>>>
>>>> A zipped file is compressed, but a compressed file is not
>>>> necessarily zipped as there are other methods for compressing file
>>>> sizes. In the case of XP, with it compresses, it creates a zipped
>>>> file.
>>>
>>> I don't think so. A file whose name is shown in blue has been
>>> compressed by the OS. This is *not* zip compression, it's something
>>> that the Windows OS does. It's not as drastic as zip, therefore
>>> doesn't take as long to do or to undo.
>>>
>>> WinXP also has built-in support for zipping and unzipping files but
>>> it's a totally different thing.

>>
>> If you check, you'll find the blue is zipped/compressed files and green
>> is
>> encrypted files. You can set/adjust these from the Properties menu for
>> each file you right click Properties and choose Advanced for.
>> Try it and see; You'll find that: Blue *IS* zip compression for XP NTFS
>> drives. Compress or encrypt a file and see what color it changes to.
>> The
>> color indicator can also be turned off so they all display in black is so
>> desired.
>>
>> In the future, please be more sure of your responses before becoming
>> emphatic.
>>
>> HTH,
>>
>> Twayne


LOL. What a joke, this coming from you!
 
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