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Executing XP Programs Under Win 7. $$$?

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W. eWatson

Flightless Bird
I'm starting to move programs from my XP Pro PC to Win 7 (HP, 64-bit). I
thought I'd try Acrobat Pro 8 and another program I purchased. Each cost
in excess of $200. I called Adobe to see if they could help. Yes, of
course. Upgrade to 9.0 for $150. I had contacted the mfger of the other
program, and they said use UAC (User Account Control) with the program I
have. I have a suspicion that I could use UAC with Acrobat. I probably
have 5-6 other commercial programs, including a few that support items
like printers. Comments?

I've temporarily forgotten the name of the Win 7 I am using, but it's
one level below the Professional, which I believe has a facility to run
XP programs. Maybe these $$ concerns go away if I upgrade to pro?
 
P

PA Bear [MS MVP]

Flightless Bird
Post such questions here instead:
http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/w7programs/threads

Please post ALL further Win7-specific questions in the appropriate
Win7-specific forum:
http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/category/windows7

Related:

Adobe - Security Bulletin APSB10-02 Security Advisory for Adobe Reader and
Acrobat:
http://www.adobe.com/support/security/bulletins/apsb10-02.html

NB: There is NOT a patch for Adobe Acrobat (Pro) 8.x (although there is one
for Adobe Reader 8.x).


W. eWatson wrote:
> I'm starting to move programs from my XP Pro PC to Win 7 (HP, 64-bit). I
> thought I'd try Acrobat Pro 8 and another program I purchased. Each cost
> in excess of $200. I called Adobe to see if they could help. Yes, of
> course. Upgrade to 9.0 for $150. I had contacted the mfger of the other
> program, and they said use UAC (User Account Control) with the program I
> have. I have a suspicion that I could use UAC with Acrobat. I probably
> have 5-6 other commercial programs, including a few that support items
> like printers. Comments?
>
> I've temporarily forgotten the name of the Win 7 I am using, but it's
> one level below the Professional, which I believe has a facility to run
> XP programs. Maybe these $$ concerns go away if I upgrade to pro?
 
S

Shenan Stanley

Flightless Bird
W. eWatson wrote:
> I'm starting to move programs from my XP Pro PC to Win 7 (HP,
> 64-bit). I thought I'd try Acrobat Pro 8 and another program I
> purchased. Each cost in excess of $200. I called Adobe to see if
> they could help. Yes, of course. Upgrade to 9.0 for $150. I had
> contacted the mfger of the other program, and they said use UAC
> (User Account Control) with the program I have. I have a suspicion
> that I could use UAC with Acrobat. I probably have 5-6 other
> commercial programs, including a few that support items like
> printers. Comments?
> I've temporarily forgotten the name of the Win 7 I am using, but
> it's one level below the Professional, which I believe has a
> facility to run XP programs. Maybe these $$ concerns go away if I
> upgrade to pro?


Are you confusing actually getting support (meaning you can call someone for
help) with the program actually functioning just fine?

Adobe Acrobat Professional 8.x works in Windows 7 (64 or 32-bit.) Now - if
you do have trouble - the manufacturer can and may refuse to assist you
because they decided it was not supported under a given OS.

If you get Windows 7 Professional or above - yes - you can run Windows XP
Mode (a Windows XP virtual machine) - but if you have a Windows XP license
lying around - you can do that with VirtualBox or VMware Player, etc without
getting a higher level of Windows 7.

My advice - try installing the programs - see if they work as you expect
them to in Windows 7. Try checking the vendors websites for support/updates
followed by a Google Search... Then try some compatibility settings. Then,
and only then, worry about virtual machines and/or updating the program.

Yes- you may have paid a lot of money for the applications in question - but
updates do happen, new versions do get released, etc. ;-)

--
Shenan Stanley
MS-MVP
--
How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
 
W

W. eWatson

Flightless Bird
Shenan Stanley wrote:
> W. eWatson wrote:
>> I'm starting to move programs from my XP Pro PC to Win 7 (HP,
>> 64-bit). I thought I'd try Acrobat Pro 8 and another program I
>> purchased. Each cost in excess of $200. I called Adobe to see if
>> they could help. Yes, of course. Upgrade to 9.0 for $150. I had
>> contacted the mfger of the other program, and they said use UAC
>> (User Account Control) with the program I have. I have a suspicion
>> that I could use UAC with Acrobat. I probably have 5-6 other
>> commercial programs, including a few that support items like
>> printers. Comments?
>> I've temporarily forgotten the name of the Win 7 I am using, but
>> it's one level below the Professional, which I believe has a
>> facility to run XP programs. Maybe these $$ concerns go away if I
>> upgrade to pro?

>
> Are you confusing actually getting support (meaning you can call someone for
> help) with the program actually functioning just fine?
>
> Adobe Acrobat Professional 8.x works in Windows 7 (64 or 32-bit.) Now - if
> you do have trouble - the manufacturer can and may refuse to assist you
> because they decided it was not supported under a given OS.
>
> If you get Windows 7 Professional or above - yes - you can run Windows XP
> Mode (a Windows XP virtual machine) - but if you have a Windows XP license
> lying around - you can do that with VirtualBox or VMware Player, etc without
> getting a higher level of Windows 7.
>
> My advice - try installing the programs - see if they work as you expect
> them to in Windows 7. Try checking the vendors websites for support/updates
> followed by a Google Search... Then try some compatibility settings. Then,
> and only then, worry about virtual machines and/or updating the program.
>
> Yes- you may have paid a lot of money for the applications in question - but
> updates do happen, new versions do get released, etc. ;-)
>

Good advice. I just decided to push on with the install of Acrobat.
Seems to work fine. I even updated to 8.1.3, the latest update.

Yes, some day I might need to go to 9.0, but I use this program pretty
much for one purpose, creating pdfs from web pages, or turning doc files
int pdfs.

VM is a possibility, but since I'm starting from a new HP that had the
OS installed, that might be a challenge. A friend thinks very highly of VM.

Next is the other program, which requires turning off UAC. I'll take a
look at what that really means, and proceed. It's actually a set of 4
programs.
 
B

Bill Sharpe

Flightless Bird
W. eWatson wrote:
> Shenan Stanley wrote:
>> W. eWatson wrote:
>>> I'm starting to move programs from my XP Pro PC to Win 7 (HP,
>>> 64-bit). I thought I'd try Acrobat Pro 8 and another program I
>>> purchased. Each cost in excess of $200. I called Adobe to see if
>>> they could help. Yes, of course. Upgrade to 9.0 for $150. I had
>>> contacted the mfger of the other program, and they said use UAC
>>> (User Account Control) with the program I have. I have a suspicion
>>> that I could use UAC with Acrobat. I probably have 5-6 other
>>> commercial programs, including a few that support items like
>>> printers. Comments?
>>> I've temporarily forgotten the name of the Win 7 I am using, but
>>> it's one level below the Professional, which I believe has a
>>> facility to run XP programs. Maybe these $$ concerns go away if I
>>> upgrade to pro?

>>
>> Are you confusing actually getting support (meaning you can call
>> someone for help) with the program actually functioning just fine?
>>
>> Adobe Acrobat Professional 8.x works in Windows 7 (64 or 32-bit.) Now
>> - if you do have trouble - the manufacturer can and may refuse to
>> assist you because they decided it was not supported under a given OS.
>>
>> If you get Windows 7 Professional or above - yes - you can run Windows
>> XP Mode (a Windows XP virtual machine) - but if you have a Windows XP
>> license lying around - you can do that with VirtualBox or VMware
>> Player, etc without getting a higher level of Windows 7.
>>
>> My advice - try installing the programs - see if they work as you
>> expect them to in Windows 7. Try checking the vendors websites for
>> support/updates followed by a Google Search... Then try some
>> compatibility settings. Then, and only then, worry about virtual
>> machines and/or updating the program.
>>
>> Yes- you may have paid a lot of money for the applications in question
>> - but updates do happen, new versions do get released, etc. ;-)
>>

> Good advice. I just decided to push on with the install of Acrobat.
> Seems to work fine. I even updated to 8.1.3, the latest update.
>
> Yes, some day I might need to go to 9.0, but I use this program pretty
> much for one purpose, creating pdfs from web pages, or turning doc files
> int pdfs.
>
> VM is a possibility, but since I'm starting from a new HP that had the
> OS installed, that might be a challenge. A friend thinks very highly of VM.
>
> Next is the other program, which requires turning off UAC. I'll take a
> look at what that really means, and proceed. It's actually a set of 4
> programs.


Turning off UAC is no big deal if you have a decent firewall and a/v
program installed. I believe Win 7 lets you exercise more control over
UAC than Vista did, i.e. it's not a complete on or off switch.

Bill
 
P

PA Bear [MS MVP]

Flightless Bird
Bill Sharpe wrote:
<snip>
> Turning off UAC is no big deal if you have a decent firewall and a/v
> program installed....


Driving without wearing a seatbelt (and while texting on your cellphone) is
no big deal if you have airbags & a good insurance policy.
 
G

GbH

Flightless Bird
PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote:
> Bill Sharpe wrote:
> <snip>
>> Turning off UAC is no big deal if you have a decent firewall and a/v
>> program installed....

>
> Driving without wearing a seatbelt (and while texting on your
> cellphone) is no big deal if you have airbags & a good insurance
> policy.


Not a good analogy PA!
The former will likely only affect you the latter most likely will cause
irreparable damage to others!

--
--
Geoff
ExploitEd

Wisdom and experience come with age, they say, but I do wish I could
remember the darn question
 
P

PA Bear [MS MVP]

Flightless Bird
GbH wrote:
> PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote:
>> Bill Sharpe wrote:
>> <snip>
>>> Turning off UAC is no big deal if you have a decent firewall and a/v
>>> program installed....

>>
>> Driving without wearing a seatbelt (and while texting on your
>> cellphone) is no big deal if you have airbags & a good insurance
>> policy.

>
> Not a good analogy PA!
> The former will likely only affect you the latter most likely will cause
> irreparable damage to others!


Didja ever hear of a bot?
 
G

GbH

Flightless Bird
PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote:
> GbH wrote:
>> PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote:
>>> Bill Sharpe wrote:
>>> <snip>
>>>> Turning off UAC is no big deal if you have a decent firewall and
>>>> a/v program installed....
>>>
>>> Driving without wearing a seatbelt (and while texting on your
>>> cellphone) is no big deal if you have airbags & a good insurance
>>> policy.

>>
>> Not a good analogy PA!
>> The former will likely only affect you the latter most likely will
>> cause irreparable damage to others!

>
> Didja ever hear of a bot?


Que?
I just suggest poor no dangerous driving habits are not a good
comparison!

--
--
Geoff
ExploitEd

Wisdom and experience come with age, they say, but I do wish I could
remember the darn question
 
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