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PA Bear [MS MVP]
Flightless Bird
Teflon wrote:
<lotos of snippage>
>>> Thank you Mr. Bear. Much more information than I ever anticipated,
>>> but ALL very useful and much appreciated.
>>
>>> Sorry, I don't remember which of your posts I was reading in which
>>> thread (you do have quite a few that I find very informative),
>>> although I seem to recall it sounded a whole lot like a portion of
>>> this post. Was doing research on getting rid of a hung update that
>>> keeps failing. Since it is the Office Genuine Advantage Notice -
>>> KB949810, I don't think not having it installed will be a problem,
>>> just don't like to keep getting that FAILED notice with the red flag.
>>> Will delete the %windir%\SoftwareDistribution folder and start over.
>>
>>> Thanks again. Oh yeah, WinXP SP3 IE8
>>
>> KB949810 (and KB905474) is an Optional, non-security update which can be
>> hidden without deleting SoftwareDistribution folder.
>>
>> 1. Stop the Automatic Updates service:
>>
>> Start > Run > (type in) services.msc > [OK]
>> Double-click Automatic Updates > Click on Stop
>> (Stopping the service will take a moment)
>>
>> 2. Delete the contents of the Download folder:
>>
>> Start > Run > (type in) %windir%\SoftwareDistribution > [OK]
>> Open the Download folder and delete its contents
>> Close the window.
>>
>> 3. Go to Windows Update website | Select CUSTOM and allow the scan to
>> complete | Uncheck/deselect KB949810 [and IE8, if offered again] and hide
>> it ("Don't show me this update again").
>>
>> 4. Start the Automatic Updates service:
>>
>> Start > Run > (type in) services.msc > [OK]
>> Double-click Automatic Updates > Click on Start
>> (Starting the service will take a moment)
>>
>> IN RE your reply to Jose's post: Many others have been griping about
>> "WUAUCLT.EXE slowing down my computer" this month and I suspect it's due
>> to
>> the record number of updates & server demand (which I discussed in my
>> previous reply). If things don't calm down soon AND you've installed (or
>> hidden) all pertinent updates (which you can check by doing a CUSTOM scan
>> athttp
/windowsupdate.microsoft.com), see if a Reset resolves the
>> behavior:
>>
>> How do I reset Windows Update components?
>> => Ignore the APPLIES TO section if Win7; Access KB971058 via Internet
>> Explorer (32-bit) only; Run the Fix It in DEFAULT and then AGGRESSIVE
>> modes,
>> then reboot [1]http/support.microsoft.com/kb/971058
>>
>> You're welcome & thanks for your feedback.
>>
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> [1] Full Disclosure: Running the Fix It in AGGRESSIVE mode will delete
>> your
>> Update History but not the list of installed updates in Add/Remove
>> Programs.
>
> Well Bear, I gave it a try and still no happiness in Mudville. Opened
> the Download folder in Software Distribution folder and deleted all of
> the contents. Went to MS Update site and selected Custom. Results
> were - one Critical Update - the KB949810 Office Gen Advantage - same
> as before. And like before, it indicated it was already downloaded
> and available for installation. The option to 'Not Show It Again',
> was grayed out. Checked the Download folder and nothing in it. So,
> where could that installer for KB949810 be hiding?
If you did all four (4) steps in my previous reply, the update should no
longer be in the update queue & should be "hide-able."
That being said, try running the reset Fix It in AGGRESSIVE mode.
> The scan for updates was as slow as ever. Is that mainly due to my
> system's resource constraints, or is it the slowness of the app's
> communication with the servers?
Lot's and lot's of chatter/griping about this from primarily WinXP users
with relatively-low RAM (e.g., less than 1 G. See my reply in this
related discussion:
http://social.answers.microsoft.com...9a9a03b/#44e80262-9a91-4ddb-9770-63810962cb8c
> I use the MS vs Win update option since I do have Office installed and
> want to get updates for it, as well as all the other bits and pieces
> MS has put on my system over the years, like .Net and Silverlight.
> Are those apps really necessary?
Your computer (and the applications installed on it) wouldn't work without a
minimal set of .NET Framework versions installed. That being said,
Windows/Microsoft Update will offer you all sorts of Optional, non-security
updates for .NET Framework (e.g., KB982167; KB982168; KB982524; KB982671;
KB951847). Very generally speaking, you don't "need" to install ANY of
them.
> RE the 4 hours mentioned by Jose, could that be happening because the
> MS Security Essentials app is installed?...
Installing MSE (or Office or Silvernet or Windows Live Essentials) will
"flip" you to Microsoft Update if it's not already your default update
source but MSE isn't causing the behavior. (In fact, you can "flip" back to
Windows Update and MSE will still continue to auto-update.)
> Oh yeah, why don't you recommend IE8?
I never said I don't recommend IE8. I have often said that I don't
recommend installing IE8 via Windows Update. I don't think IE7 should have
been "pushed" via Windows Update and I don't think IE8 should be either.
I also dislike MS's current tactic of "pushing" the MSN Optimized version of
IE8 and the IE8 with Bing Bar and Silverlight version.
<lotos of snippage>
>>> Thank you Mr. Bear. Much more information than I ever anticipated,
>>> but ALL very useful and much appreciated.
>>
>>> Sorry, I don't remember which of your posts I was reading in which
>>> thread (you do have quite a few that I find very informative),
>>> although I seem to recall it sounded a whole lot like a portion of
>>> this post. Was doing research on getting rid of a hung update that
>>> keeps failing. Since it is the Office Genuine Advantage Notice -
>>> KB949810, I don't think not having it installed will be a problem,
>>> just don't like to keep getting that FAILED notice with the red flag.
>>> Will delete the %windir%\SoftwareDistribution folder and start over.
>>
>>> Thanks again. Oh yeah, WinXP SP3 IE8
>>
>> KB949810 (and KB905474) is an Optional, non-security update which can be
>> hidden without deleting SoftwareDistribution folder.
>>
>> 1. Stop the Automatic Updates service:
>>
>> Start > Run > (type in) services.msc > [OK]
>> Double-click Automatic Updates > Click on Stop
>> (Stopping the service will take a moment)
>>
>> 2. Delete the contents of the Download folder:
>>
>> Start > Run > (type in) %windir%\SoftwareDistribution > [OK]
>> Open the Download folder and delete its contents
>> Close the window.
>>
>> 3. Go to Windows Update website | Select CUSTOM and allow the scan to
>> complete | Uncheck/deselect KB949810 [and IE8, if offered again] and hide
>> it ("Don't show me this update again").
>>
>> 4. Start the Automatic Updates service:
>>
>> Start > Run > (type in) services.msc > [OK]
>> Double-click Automatic Updates > Click on Start
>> (Starting the service will take a moment)
>>
>> IN RE your reply to Jose's post: Many others have been griping about
>> "WUAUCLT.EXE slowing down my computer" this month and I suspect it's due
>> to
>> the record number of updates & server demand (which I discussed in my
>> previous reply). If things don't calm down soon AND you've installed (or
>> hidden) all pertinent updates (which you can check by doing a CUSTOM scan
>> athttp
/windowsupdate.microsoft.com), see if a Reset resolves the>> behavior:
>>
>> How do I reset Windows Update components?
>> => Ignore the APPLIES TO section if Win7; Access KB971058 via Internet
>> Explorer (32-bit) only; Run the Fix It in DEFAULT and then AGGRESSIVE
>> modes,
>> then reboot [1]http
/support.microsoft.com/kb/971058>>
>> You're welcome & thanks for your feedback.
>>
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> [1] Full Disclosure: Running the Fix It in AGGRESSIVE mode will delete
>> your
>> Update History but not the list of installed updates in Add/Remove
>> Programs.
>
> Well Bear, I gave it a try and still no happiness in Mudville. Opened
> the Download folder in Software Distribution folder and deleted all of
> the contents. Went to MS Update site and selected Custom. Results
> were - one Critical Update - the KB949810 Office Gen Advantage - same
> as before. And like before, it indicated it was already downloaded
> and available for installation. The option to 'Not Show It Again',
> was grayed out. Checked the Download folder and nothing in it. So,
> where could that installer for KB949810 be hiding?
If you did all four (4) steps in my previous reply, the update should no
longer be in the update queue & should be "hide-able."
That being said, try running the reset Fix It in AGGRESSIVE mode.
> The scan for updates was as slow as ever. Is that mainly due to my
> system's resource constraints, or is it the slowness of the app's
> communication with the servers?
Lot's and lot's of chatter/griping about this from primarily WinXP users
with relatively-low RAM (e.g., less than 1 G
. See my reply in thisrelated discussion:
http://social.answers.microsoft.com...9a9a03b/#44e80262-9a91-4ddb-9770-63810962cb8c
> I use the MS vs Win update option since I do have Office installed and
> want to get updates for it, as well as all the other bits and pieces
> MS has put on my system over the years, like .Net and Silverlight.
> Are those apps really necessary?
Your computer (and the applications installed on it) wouldn't work without a
minimal set of .NET Framework versions installed. That being said,
Windows/Microsoft Update will offer you all sorts of Optional, non-security
updates for .NET Framework (e.g., KB982167; KB982168; KB982524; KB982671;
KB951847). Very generally speaking, you don't "need" to install ANY of
them.
> RE the 4 hours mentioned by Jose, could that be happening because the
> MS Security Essentials app is installed?...
Installing MSE (or Office or Silvernet or Windows Live Essentials) will
"flip" you to Microsoft Update if it's not already your default update
source but MSE isn't causing the behavior. (In fact, you can "flip" back to
Windows Update and MSE will still continue to auto-update.)
> Oh yeah, why don't you recommend IE8?
I never said I don't recommend IE8. I have often said that I don't
recommend installing IE8 via Windows Update. I don't think IE7 should have
been "pushed" via Windows Update and I don't think IE8 should be either.
I also dislike MS's current tactic of "pushing" the MSN Optimized version of
IE8 and the IE8 with Bing Bar and Silverlight version.