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downloading YouTube videos

Discussion in 'Windows XP' started by Jo-Anne, Jul 5, 2010.

  1. Jo-Anne

    Jo-Anne Flightless Bird

    I have two questions about downloading YouTube videos:

    1. Is cnet.com a safe site from which to download a video downloader? (I
    Googled cnet.com and got an OK review from McAfee but some negative comments
    from individuals.) I'd like to use the safest site possible. The downloader
    I was looking is YouTube Downloader 2.5.6.

    2. Is there an advantage to converting videos from the .flv format--and if
    so, what is the best format to convert to? I use VLC Media Player on my
    WinXP computer.

    Thank you!

    Jo-Anne
     
  2. pjp

    pjp Flightless Bird

    Think you'll find downloading YouTube (or for that matter any flv streaming
    media) was, is and will continue to be a never ending game between YouTube
    who don't want you to be able to do that and software developers continually
    updating in response to YouTube's changes.

    One way I've found to do without all the bs is basically just before the
    video finishes I turn off the pc, e.g. hard reset. This prevents the browser
    from being able to delete the temporary file it was using. Once rebooted, I
    locate, copy and rename that specific file (experience required to determine
    the actual file, watch what file changes size in your specific "Temp" folder
    while video loads and plays) and then use a stand alone conversion program
    to change it's format, e.g. Any Video Converter.

    "Jo-Anne" <Jo-Anne@nowhere.com> wrote in message
    news:i0tesb$cgd$1@news.eternal-september.org...
    >I have two questions about downloading YouTube videos:
    >
    > 1. Is cnet.com a safe site from which to download a video downloader? (I
    > Googled cnet.com and got an OK review from McAfee but some negative
    > comments from individuals.) I'd like to use the safest site possible. The
    > downloader I was looking is YouTube Downloader 2.5.6.
    >
    > 2. Is there an advantage to converting videos from the .flv format--and if
    > so, what is the best format to convert to? I use VLC Media Player on my
    > WinXP computer.
    >
    > Thank you!
    >
    > Jo-Anne
    >
     
  3. Jo-Anne

    Jo-Anne Flightless Bird

    Thank you, pjp! Sounds like more than I really want to do, though!

    Jo-Anne

    "pjp" <pjpoirier_is_located_at_@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    news:e3SpPcIHLHA.4824@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
    > Think you'll find downloading YouTube (or for that matter any flv
    > streaming media) was, is and will continue to be a never ending game
    > between YouTube who don't want you to be able to do that and software
    > developers continually updating in response to YouTube's changes.
    >
    > One way I've found to do without all the bs is basically just before the
    > video finishes I turn off the pc, e.g. hard reset. This prevents the
    > browser from being able to delete the temporary file it was using. Once
    > rebooted, I locate, copy and rename that specific file (experience
    > required to determine the actual file, watch what file changes size in
    > your specific "Temp" folder while video loads and plays) and then use a
    > stand alone conversion program to change it's format, e.g. Any Video
    > Converter.
    >
    > "Jo-Anne" <Jo-Anne@nowhere.com> wrote in message
    > news:i0tesb$cgd$1@news.eternal-september.org...
    >>I have two questions about downloading YouTube videos:
    >>
    >> 1. Is cnet.com a safe site from which to download a video downloader? (I
    >> Googled cnet.com and got an OK review from McAfee but some negative
    >> comments from individuals.) I'd like to use the safest site possible. The
    >> downloader I was looking is YouTube Downloader 2.5.6.
    >>
    >> 2. Is there an advantage to converting videos from the .flv format--and
    >> if so, what is the best format to convert to? I use VLC Media Player on
    >> my WinXP computer.
    >>
    >> Thank you!
    >>
    >> Jo-Anne
    >>

    >
    >
     
  4. Daave

    Daave Flightless Bird

    Jo-Anne wrote:
    > I have two questions about downloading YouTube videos:
    >
    > 1. Is cnet.com a safe site from which to download a video downloader?
    > (I Googled cnet.com and got an OK review from McAfee but some
    > negative comments from individuals.) I'd like to use the safest site
    > possible. The downloader I was looking is YouTube Downloader 2.5.6.
    >
    > 2. Is there an advantage to converting videos from the .flv
    > format--and if so, what is the best format to convert to? I use VLC
    > Media Player on my WinXP computer.
    >
    > Thank you!
    >
    > Jo-Anne


    The YouTube video, once viewed, will be in your IE TIF folder. Assuming
    the file is intact, you should be able to copy it to another folder play
    it with VLC. It's probably a good idea to rename it and append the .flv
    extension to it.

    If you would rather not do that much work, entering the YouTube URL into
    the keepvid.com site should work:

    http://keepvid.com/

    Othre people like to use Firefox and the greasemonkey plugin to download
    YouTube videos.

    Or simply don't worry about it if you have a high-speed connection and
    if you think YouTube will wind up keeping the video on its site (this is
    usually the case).

    As long as your video player plays .flv files, I see no advantage in
    converting them to another format.
     
  5. Bill in Co

    Bill in Co Flightless Bird

    Jo-Anne wrote:
    > I have two questions about downloading YouTube videos:
    >
    > 1. Is cnet.com a safe site from which to download a video downloader? (I
    > Googled cnet.com and got an OK review from McAfee but some negative
    > comments
    > from individuals.) I'd like to use the safest site possible. The
    > downloader
    > I was looking is YouTube Downloader 2.5.6.


    Sounds good to me. Some people had problems with cnet.com? Well, they
    may have problems with some other sites too, for that matter. So far I
    haven't run into such with cnet.com or download.com. Maybe someone else
    has had some other experiences though.

    > 2. Is there an advantage to converting videos from the .flv format--and if
    > so, what is the best format to convert to? I use VLC Media Player on my
    > WinXP computer.
    >
    > Thank you!


    I don't see any point in converting FLV videos, assuming you have some FLV
    capable player.

    Well, maybe there is (possibly) one point: if you were going to burn and
    play a DVD disk with the videos stored on them (i.e., it might be that MPG
    is a more universally recognized playback format than FLV for some DVD
    players).
     
  6. Jo-Anne

    Jo-Anne Flightless Bird

    "Daave" <daave@example.com> wrote in message
    news:uxtZueJHLHA.5684@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
    > Jo-Anne wrote:
    >> I have two questions about downloading YouTube videos:
    >>
    >> 1. Is cnet.com a safe site from which to download a video downloader?
    >> (I Googled cnet.com and got an OK review from McAfee but some
    >> negative comments from individuals.) I'd like to use the safest site
    >> possible. The downloader I was looking is YouTube Downloader 2.5.6.
    >>
    >> 2. Is there an advantage to converting videos from the .flv
    >> format--and if so, what is the best format to convert to? I use VLC
    >> Media Player on my WinXP computer.
    >>
    >> Thank you!
    >>
    >> Jo-Anne

    >
    > The YouTube video, once viewed, will be in your IE TIF folder. Assuming
    > the file is intact, you should be able to copy it to another folder play
    > it with VLC. It's probably a good idea to rename it and append the .flv
    > extension to it.
    >
    > If you would rather not do that much work, entering the YouTube URL into
    > the keepvid.com site should work:
    >
    > http://keepvid.com/
    >
    > Othre people like to use Firefox and the greasemonkey plugin to download
    > YouTube videos.
    >
    > Or simply don't worry about it if you have a high-speed connection and if
    > you think YouTube will wind up keeping the video on its site (this is
    > usually the case).
    >
    > As long as your video player plays .flv files, I see no advantage in
    > converting them to another format.
    >

    Thank you, Daave! I'm afraid I need more help, though. First, I checked
    Temporary Internet Files, which showed a folder named Content.IE5, which
    seemed to contain a bunch of letter/number jpg, gif, etc. files. Did I do
    something wrong?

    Then, I tried keepvid.com, but I got the following message across the top of
    the page: "Your security settings do not allow websites to use ActiveX
    controls on your computer... Click here for options." But I can't click on
    that message. As soon as I hover the mouse over it, it goes blue and is
    unclickable. I pasted in the URL anyway and clicked on "download." The page
    said: "Loading Java applet." But it never loaded, and I got an error message
    that indicated I could "click here" to download Java or--if I had
    it--restart the browser. I could have sworn I had Java, but I don't see a
    Sun Microsystems folder in Program Files, and I didn't see anything in Add
    or Remove Programs. Does this mean that I should download Java? (I did
    restart the browser but encountered the same problem.)

    Thank you again!

    Jo-Anne
     
  7. Jo-Anne

    Jo-Anne Flightless Bird

    "Bill in Co" <surly_curmudgeon@earthlink.net> wrote in message
    news:AOmdncDd793w96_RnZ2dnUVZ_sudnZ2d@earthlink.com...
    > Jo-Anne wrote:
    >> I have two questions about downloading YouTube videos:
    >>
    >> 1. Is cnet.com a safe site from which to download a video downloader? (I
    >> Googled cnet.com and got an OK review from McAfee but some negative
    >> comments
    >> from individuals.) I'd like to use the safest site possible. The
    >> downloader
    >> I was looking is YouTube Downloader 2.5.6.

    >
    > Sounds good to me. Some people had problems with cnet.com? Well, they
    > may have problems with some other sites too, for that matter. So far I
    > haven't run into such with cnet.com or download.com. Maybe someone else
    > has had some other experiences though.
    >
    >> 2. Is there an advantage to converting videos from the .flv format--and
    >> if
    >> so, what is the best format to convert to? I use VLC Media Player on my
    >> WinXP computer.
    >>
    >> Thank you!

    >
    > I don't see any point in converting FLV videos, assuming you have some FLV
    > capable player.
    >
    > Well, maybe there is (possibly) one point: if you were going to burn and
    > play a DVD disk with the videos stored on them (i.e., it might be that MPG
    > is a more universally recognized playback format than FLV for some DVD
    > players).
    >


    Thank you, Bill! If I can't get Daave's suggestions to work, I'll go ahead
    and download the downloader. All I really want to is to make sure I can
    watch certain videos when I need them (they contain techniques that aren't
    easy to follow from written instructions). I figured one can't guarantee
    that YouTube will keep them up forever.

    Jo-Anne

    Jo-Anne
     
  8. Daave

    Daave Flightless Bird

    Jo-Anne wrote:

    > Thank you, Daave! I'm afraid I need more help, though. First, I
    > checked Temporary Internet Files, which showed a folder named
    > Content.IE5, which seemed to contain a bunch of letter/number jpg,
    > gif, etc. files. Did I do something wrong?


    Try this (it's for IE7, but if you have IE8, I'm sure it's similar):

    Tools | Internet Options | Browsing History: Settings | View Files

    Click the "Size" column until the largest files are on top. You should
    see it/them now.

    In IE7, this is the location:

    C:/Documents and Settings\[profile]\Local Settings\Temporary Internet
    Files

    (If you're in a folder by the name of Content.IE5, I'll bet it's under
    another profile!)

    You could also get there using Windows Explorer, but you need to show
    hidden *and* protected operating system files in Folder Options in order
    to get there that way.
     
  9. Daave

    Daave Flightless Bird

    Jo-Anne wrote:

    > Then, I tried keepvid.com, but I got the following message across the
    > top of the page: "Your security settings do not allow websites to use
    > ActiveX controls on your computer... Click here for options." But I
    > can't click on that message. As soon as I hover the mouse over it, it
    > goes blue and is unclickable. I pasted in the URL anyway and clicked
    > on "download." The page said: "Loading Java applet." But it never
    > loaded, and I got an error message that indicated I could "click
    > here" to download Java or--if I had it--restart the browser. I could
    > have sworn I had Java, but I don't see a Sun Microsystems folder in
    > Program Files, and I didn't see anything in Add or Remove Programs.
    > Does this mean that I should download Java? (I did restart the
    > browser but encountered the same problem.)
    > Thank you again!


    What kind of profile are you using: limited user account or computer
    administrator?

    What are your current security settings?

    Which security programs are currently running on your PC?

    For Java:

    http://www.java.com/en/download/manual.jsp

    I prefer to download the larger "Offline" package. When you install it,
    there is no need to install any toolbars, etc., when prompted.

    To confirm you have the latest Java, go here (actually do this first!):

    http://www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp

    BTW: The most recent version is:

    Version 6, Update 20

    That being said, there are Java exploits out in the wild that *could*
    set into motion malware entering your PC, and you may not want to use
    the keepvid.com website after all!
     
  10. Jo-Anne

    Jo-Anne Flightless Bird

    "Daave" <daave@example.com> wrote in message
    news:uAoB7bKHLHA.5136@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
    > Jo-Anne wrote:
    >
    >> Thank you, Daave! I'm afraid I need more help, though. First, I
    >> checked Temporary Internet Files, which showed a folder named
    >> Content.IE5, which seemed to contain a bunch of letter/number jpg,
    >> gif, etc. files. Did I do something wrong?

    >
    > Try this (it's for IE7, but if you have IE8, I'm sure it's similar):
    >
    > Tools | Internet Options | Browsing History: Settings | View Files
    >
    > Click the "Size" column until the largest files are on top. You should see
    > it/them now.
    >
    > In IE7, this is the location:
    >
    > C:/Documents and Settings\[profile]\Local Settings\Temporary Internet
    > Files
    >
    > (If you're in a folder by the name of Content.IE5, I'll bet it's under
    > another profile!)
    >
    > You could also get there using Windows Explorer, but you need to show
    > hidden *and* protected operating system files in Folder Options in order
    > to get there that way.
    >


    Done! It worked perfectly, Daave! I have IE7 on this computer, and I
    followed your directions, using Tools | Internet Options, etc. So nice that
    I can do this without adding yet another program.

    Thank you!

    Jo-Anne
     
  11. Daave

    Daave Flightless Bird

    Jo-Anne wrote:
    > "Daave" <daave@example.com> wrote in message
    > news:uAoB7bKHLHA.5136@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
    >> Jo-Anne wrote:
    >>
    >>> Thank you, Daave! I'm afraid I need more help, though. First, I
    >>> checked Temporary Internet Files, which showed a folder named
    >>> Content.IE5, which seemed to contain a bunch of letter/number jpg,
    >>> gif, etc. files. Did I do something wrong?

    >>
    >> Try this (it's for IE7, but if you have IE8, I'm sure it's similar):
    >>
    >> Tools | Internet Options | Browsing History: Settings | View Files
    >>
    >> Click the "Size" column until the largest files are on top. You
    >> should see it/them now.
    >>
    >> In IE7, this is the location:
    >>
    >> C:/Documents and Settings\[profile]\Local Settings\Temporary Internet
    >> Files
    >>
    >> (If you're in a folder by the name of Content.IE5, I'll bet it's
    >> under another profile!)
    >>
    >> You could also get there using Windows Explorer, but you need to show
    >> hidden *and* protected operating system files in Folder Options in
    >> order to get there that way.
    >>

    >
    > Done! It worked perfectly, Daave! I have IE7 on this computer, and I
    > followed your directions, using Tools | Internet Options, etc. So
    > nice that I can do this without adding yet another program.
    >
    > Thank you!


    YW.
     
  12. Jo-Anne

    Jo-Anne Flightless Bird

    "Daave" <daave@example.com> wrote in message
    news:%23AlHmhKHLHA.5700@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
    > Jo-Anne wrote:
    >
    >> Then, I tried keepvid.com, but I got the following message across the
    >> top of the page: "Your security settings do not allow websites to use
    >> ActiveX controls on your computer... Click here for options." But I
    >> can't click on that message. As soon as I hover the mouse over it, it
    >> goes blue and is unclickable. I pasted in the URL anyway and clicked
    >> on "download." The page said: "Loading Java applet." But it never
    >> loaded, and I got an error message that indicated I could "click
    >> here" to download Java or--if I had it--restart the browser. I could
    >> have sworn I had Java, but I don't see a Sun Microsystems folder in
    >> Program Files, and I didn't see anything in Add or Remove Programs.
    >> Does this mean that I should download Java? (I did restart the
    >> browser but encountered the same problem.)
    >> Thank you again!

    >
    > What kind of profile are you using: limited user account or computer
    > administrator?
    >
    > What are your current security settings?
    >
    > Which security programs are currently running on your PC?
    >
    > For Java:
    >
    > http://www.java.com/en/download/manual.jsp
    >
    > I prefer to download the larger "Offline" package. When you install it,
    > there is no need to install any toolbars, etc., when prompted.
    >
    > To confirm you have the latest Java, go here (actually do this first!):
    >
    > http://www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp
    >
    > BTW: The most recent version is:
    >
    > Version 6, Update 20
    >
    > That being said, there are Java exploits out in the wild that *could* set
    > into motion malware entering your PC, and you may not want to use the
    > keepvid.com website after all!
    >


    I think I'll forego Java for now, especially since I managed to use your
    easy method to copy the temporary internet files.

    Thank you!

    Jo-Anne
     

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