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dllhost.exe Part 2

Discussion in 'Windows XP' started by WaIIy, Aug 8, 2010.

  1. WaIIy

    WaIIy Flightless Bird

    Well, it doesn't appear on boot anymore, but two instances show up and I
    can't pinpoint just what causes it.

    I need a hobby.
     
  2. Bill in Co

    Bill in Co Flightless Bird

    WaIIy wrote:
    > Well, it doesn't appear on boot anymore, but two instances show up and I
    > can't pinpoint just what causes it.
    >
    > I need a hobby.


    Sounds like you have one. :) And I know the feeling.
     
  3. PA Bear [MS MVP]

    PA Bear [MS MVP] Flightless Bird

    cf. http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=43792 (though you may have done
    this already, according to your replies to YOUR ORIGINAL THREAD!)

    WaIIy wrote:
    > Well, it doesn't appear on boot anymore, but two instances show up and I
    > can't pinpoint just what causes it.
    >
    > I need a hobby.
     
  4. WaIIy

    WaIIy Flightless Bird

    On Sun, 8 Aug 2010 17:19:36 -0400, "PA Bear [MS MVP]"
    <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote:

    >
    >cf. http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=43792 (though you may have done
    >this already, according to your replies to YOUR ORIGINAL THREAD!)
    >
    >WaIIy wrote:
    >> Well, it doesn't appear on boot anymore, but two instances show up and I
    >> can't pinpoint just what causes it.
    >>
    >> I need a hobby.


    I know I changed the thread, the other one was pretty messy.

    Anyway, I did what your link said (yes, I already had, but did it
    again). Thanks

    Then I did this to the registry,,

    http://forums.sun.com/thread.jspa?threadID=5433389

    The Java settings in Control Panel didn't have the Update box to uncheck
    in version 6u21 - bastards.

    They also put Java Update Sched in HKLM Run (according to Startup
    Control Panel). No matter what was unchecked in the Java settngs, they
    have been doing this for a long time.

    Java is starting to piss me off.

    As of this writing, no dllhost.exe is showing..........yet.
     
  5. WaIIy

    WaIIy Flightless Bird

    On Mon, 09 Aug 2010 19:40:46 -0400, WaIIy <WaIIy@(nft).invalid> wrote:

    >On Sun, 8 Aug 2010 17:19:36 -0400, "PA Bear [MS MVP]"
    ><PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote:
    >
    >>
    >>cf. http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=43792 (though you may have done
    >>this already, according to your replies to YOUR ORIGINAL THREAD!)
    >>
    >>WaIIy wrote:
    >>> Well, it doesn't appear on boot anymore, but two instances show up and I
    >>> can't pinpoint just what causes it.
    >>>
    >>> I need a hobby.

    >
    >I know I changed the thread, the other one was pretty messy.
    >
    >Anyway, I did what your link said (yes, I already had, but did it
    >again). Thanks
    >
    >Then I did this to the registry,,
    >
    >http://forums.sun.com/thread.jspa?threadID=5433389
    >
    >The Java settings in Control Panel didn't have the Update box to uncheck
    >in version 6u21 - bastards.
    >
    >They also put Java Update Sched in HKLM Run (according to Startup
    >Control Panel). No matter what was unchecked in the Java settngs, they
    >have been doing this for a long time.
    >
    >Java is starting to piss me off.
    >
    >As of this writing, no dllhost.exe is showing..........yet.



    Hmm, 5 minutes later, they did. I was using Firefox, but didn't go to
    any java site I was aware of.
     
  6. Nil

    Nil Flightless Bird

    On 09 Aug 2010, WaIIy <WaIIy@(nft).invalid> wrote in
    microsoft.public.windowsxp.general:

    > Then I did this to the registry,,
    >
    > http://forums.sun.com/thread.jspa?threadID=5433389
    >
    > The Java settings in Control Panel didn't have the Update box to
    > uncheck in version 6u21 - bastards.


    It's there in mine.

    > They also put Java Update Sched in HKLM Run (according to Startup
    > Control Panel). No matter what was unchecked in the Java settngs,
    > they have been doing this for a long time.


    Yes, that's been there for years. I'm not convinced that it does
    anything, though, if the update option in the Java control panel is
    disabled. My firewall logs don't show it contacting anyone. I disable
    the Java Update Scheduler every time I update Java.
     
  7. WaIIy

    WaIIy Flightless Bird

    On Mon, 09 Aug 2010 20:35:37 -0400, Nil <rednoise@REMOVETHIScomcast.net>
    wrote:

    >On 09 Aug 2010, WaIIy <WaIIy@(nft).invalid> wrote in
    >microsoft.public.windowsxp.general:
    >
    >> Then I did this to the registry,,
    >>
    >> http://forums.sun.com/thread.jspa?threadID=5433389
    >>
    >> The Java settings in Control Panel didn't have the Update box to
    >> uncheck in version 6u21 - bastards.

    >
    >It's there in mine.


    Do you have Version 1.6.0_21 ?

    It's not there.

    >
    >> They also put Java Update Sched in HKLM Run (according to Startup
    >> Control Panel). No matter what was unchecked in the Java settngs,
    >> they have been doing this for a long time.

    >
    >Yes, that's been there for years. I'm not convinced that it does
    >anything, though, if the update option in the Java control panel is
    >disabled. My firewall logs don't show it contacting anyone. I disable
    >the Java Update Scheduler every time I update Java.
     
  8. WaIIy

    WaIIy Flightless Bird

    On Mon, 09 Aug 2010 20:55:57 -0400, WaIIy <WaIIy@(nft).invalid> wrote:

    >On Mon, 09 Aug 2010 20:35:37 -0400, Nil <rednoise@REMOVETHIScomcast.net>
    >wrote:
    >
    >>On 09 Aug 2010, WaIIy <WaIIy@(nft).invalid> wrote in
    >>microsoft.public.windowsxp.general:
    >>
    >>> Then I did this to the registry,,
    >>>
    >>> http://forums.sun.com/thread.jspa?threadID=5433389
    >>>
    >>> The Java settings in Control Panel didn't have the Update box to
    >>> uncheck in version 6u21 - bastards.

    >>
    >>It's there in mine.

    >
    >Do you have Version 1.6.0_21 ?
    >
    >It's not there.
    >
    >>
    >>> They also put Java Update Sched in HKLM Run (according to Startup
    >>> Control Panel). No matter what was unchecked in the Java settngs,
    >>> they have been doing this for a long time.

    >>
    >>Yes, that's been there for years. I'm not convinced that it does
    >>anything, though, if the update option in the Java control panel is
    >>disabled. My firewall logs don't show it contacting anyone. I disable
    >>the Java Update Scheduler every time I update Java.



    That would be build 07, since they made a slight change in 1.6.0_21
     
  9. Nil

    Nil Flightless Bird

    On 09 Aug 2010, WaIIy <WaIIy@(nft).invalid> wrote in
    microsoft.public.windowsxp.general:

    > On Mon, 09 Aug 2010 20:55:57 -0400, WaIIy <WaIIy@(nft).invalid>
    > wrote:


    >>Do you have Version 1.6.0_21 ?
    >>
    >>It's not there.

    >
    > That would be build 07, since they made a slight change in
    > 1.6.0_21


    Version 1.6.0_21-b07.
    Yep, it's there.

    <http://home.comcast.net/~esionder/temp/JavaUD1.png>
     
  10. WaIIy

    WaIIy Flightless Bird

    On Mon, 09 Aug 2010 21:13:43 -0400, Nil <rednoise@REMOVETHIScomcast.net>
    wrote:

    >On 09 Aug 2010, WaIIy <WaIIy@(nft).invalid> wrote in
    >microsoft.public.windowsxp.general:
    >
    >> On Mon, 09 Aug 2010 20:55:57 -0400, WaIIy <WaIIy@(nft).invalid>
    >> wrote:

    >
    >>>Do you have Version 1.6.0_21 ?
    >>>
    >>>It's not there.

    >>
    >> That would be build 07, since they made a slight change in
    >> 1.6.0_21

    >
    >Version 1.6.0_21-b07.
    >Yep, it's there.
    >
    ><http://home.comcast.net/~esionder/temp/JavaUD1.png>


    That is really odd.

    My tabs are General-Java-Security-Advanced.

    Nothing about updating anywhere.

    I installed it offline, though.
     
  11. Daave

    Daave Flightless Bird

    WaIIy wrote:
    > On Mon, 09 Aug 2010 21:13:43 -0400, Nil
    > <rednoise@REMOVETHIScomcast.net> wrote:


    >> Version 1.6.0_21-b07.
    >> Yep, it's there.
    >>
    >> <http://home.comcast.net/~esionder/temp/JavaUD1.png>

    >
    > That is really odd.
    >
    > My tabs are General-Java-Security-Advanced.
    >
    > Nothing about updating anywhere.
    >
    > I installed it offline, though.


    I installed mine offline, but I have the Update tab.
     
  12. Nil

    Nil Flightless Bird

    On 09 Aug 2010, WaIIy <WaIIy@(nft).invalid> wrote in
    microsoft.public.windowsxp.general:

    >><http://home.comcast.net/~esionder/temp/JavaUD1.png>

    >
    > That is really odd.
    >
    > My tabs are General-Java-Security-Advanced.
    >
    > Nothing about updating anywhere.
    >
    > I installed it offline, though.


    A quick google search found me a few references to the same problem,
    but no real solutions. It seems to be a bug. I'd try uninstalling java,
    then reinstalling.
     
  13. WaIIy

    WaIIy Flightless Bird

    On Mon, 09 Aug 2010 23:04:44 -0400, Nil <rednoise@REMOVETHIScomcast.net>
    wrote:

    >On 09 Aug 2010, WaIIy <WaIIy@(nft).invalid> wrote in
    >microsoft.public.windowsxp.general:
    >
    >>><http://home.comcast.net/~esionder/temp/JavaUD1.png>

    >>
    >> That is really odd.
    >>
    >> My tabs are General-Java-Security-Advanced.
    >>
    >> Nothing about updating anywhere.
    >>
    >> I installed it offline, though.

    >
    >A quick google search found me a few references to the same problem,
    >but no real solutions. It seems to be a bug. I'd try uninstalling java,
    >then reinstalling.


    I thought I'd find something, nothing definitive.
     
  14. WaIIy

    WaIIy Flightless Bird

    On Mon, 9 Aug 2010 22:02:24 -0400, "Daave" <daave@example.com> wrote:

    >WaIIy wrote:
    >> On Mon, 09 Aug 2010 21:13:43 -0400, Nil
    >> <rednoise@REMOVETHIScomcast.net> wrote:

    >
    >>> Version 1.6.0_21-b07.
    >>> Yep, it's there.
    >>>
    >>> <http://home.comcast.net/~esionder/temp/JavaUD1.png>

    >>
    >> That is really odd.
    >>
    >> My tabs are General-Java-Security-Advanced.
    >>
    >> Nothing about updating anywhere.
    >>
    >> I installed it offline, though.

    >
    >I installed mine offline, but I have the Update tab.
    >


    I just double checked in case I was nuts. No update tab.
     
  15. Daave

    Daave Flightless Bird

    WaIIy wrote:
    > On Mon, 9 Aug 2010 22:02:24 -0400, "Daave" <daave@example.com> wrote:
    >
    >> WaIIy wrote:
    >>> On Mon, 09 Aug 2010 21:13:43 -0400, Nil
    >>> <rednoise@REMOVETHIScomcast.net> wrote:

    >>
    >>>> Version 1.6.0_21-b07.
    >>>> Yep, it's there.
    >>>>
    >>>> <http://home.comcast.net/~esionder/temp/JavaUD1.png>
    >>>
    >>> That is really odd.
    >>>
    >>> My tabs are General-Java-Security-Advanced.
    >>>
    >>> Nothing about updating anywhere.
    >>>
    >>> I installed it offline, though.

    >>
    >> I installed mine offline, but I have the Update tab.
    >>

    >
    > I just double checked in case I was nuts. No update tab.


    That doesn't mean you're not nuts. ;-)
     
  16. Daave

    Daave Flightless Bird

    WaIIy wrote:
    > On Mon, 9 Aug 2010 22:02:24 -0400, "Daave" <daave@example.com> wrote:
    >
    >> WaIIy wrote:
    >>> On Mon, 09 Aug 2010 21:13:43 -0400, Nil
    >>> <rednoise@REMOVETHIScomcast.net> wrote:

    >>
    >>>> Version 1.6.0_21-b07.
    >>>> Yep, it's there.
    >>>>
    >>>> <http://home.comcast.net/~esionder/temp/JavaUD1.png>
    >>>
    >>> That is really odd.
    >>>
    >>> My tabs are General-Java-Security-Advanced.
    >>>
    >>> Nothing about updating anywhere.
    >>>
    >>> I installed it offline, though.

    >>
    >> I installed mine offline, but I have the Update tab.
    >>

    >
    > I just double checked in case I was nuts. No update tab.


    Why not uninstall it? Then see if those instances of dllhost.exe go
    away.

    Then reinstall it. Then see if the Update tab is where it should be.

    Then report back whether or not the dllhost.exe instances return. If so,
    note which Web sites you recently visited use Java.

    My guess is what was mentioned here is happening:

    http://searchtasks.answersthatwork.com:80/tasklist.php?File=DLLHost

    "However, sometimes, if a Java COM object runs (this could happen if you
    are browsing the Internet and come to a page which has Java code),
    DLLHOST may not terminate, which is when you would see it in your Task
    List."

    That is, it would happen to *anyone* visiting that site (running XP and
    IE, presumably).
     
  17. WaIIy

    WaIIy Flightless Bird

    On Tue, 10 Aug 2010 21:39:39 -0400, "Daave" <daave@example.com> wrote:

    >WaIIy wrote:
    >> On Mon, 9 Aug 2010 22:02:24 -0400, "Daave" <daave@example.com> wrote:
    >>
    >>> WaIIy wrote:
    >>>> On Mon, 09 Aug 2010 21:13:43 -0400, Nil
    >>>> <rednoise@REMOVETHIScomcast.net> wrote:
    >>>
    >>>>> Version 1.6.0_21-b07.
    >>>>> Yep, it's there.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> <http://home.comcast.net/~esionder/temp/JavaUD1.png>
    >>>>
    >>>> That is really odd.
    >>>>
    >>>> My tabs are General-Java-Security-Advanced.
    >>>>
    >>>> Nothing about updating anywhere.
    >>>>
    >>>> I installed it offline, though.
    >>>
    >>> I installed mine offline, but I have the Update tab.
    >>>

    >>
    >> I just double checked in case I was nuts. No update tab.

    >
    >Why not uninstall it? Then see if those instances of dllhost.exe go
    >away.
    >
    >Then reinstall it. Then see if the Update tab is where it should be.
    >
    >Then report back whether or not the dllhost.exe instances return. If so,
    >note which Web sites you recently visited use Java.
    >
    >My guess is what was mentioned here is happening:
    >
    >http://searchtasks.answersthatwork.com:80/tasklist.php?File=DLLHost
    >
    >"However, sometimes, if a Java COM object runs (this could happen if you
    >are browsing the Internet and come to a page which has Java code),
    >DLLHOST may not terminate, which is when you would see it in your Task
    >List."
    >
    >That is, it would happen to *anyone* visiting that site (running XP and
    >IE, presumably).
    >



    Well, I uninstalled Java and amd still getting it. Dang, I'm been
    chasing my tail with the Java thing.

    Still looking.........
     
  18. WaIIy

    WaIIy Flightless Bird

    On Tue, 10 Aug 2010 21:32:23 -0400, "Daave" <daave@example.com> wrote:

    >
    >WaIIy wrote:
    >> On Mon, 9 Aug 2010 22:02:24 -0400, "Daave" <daave@example.com> wrote:
    >>
    >>> WaIIy wrote:
    >>>> On Mon, 09 Aug 2010 21:13:43 -0400, Nil
    >>>> <rednoise@REMOVETHIScomcast.net> wrote:
    >>>
    >>>>> Version 1.6.0_21-b07.
    >>>>> Yep, it's there.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> <http://home.comcast.net/~esionder/temp/JavaUD1.png>
    >>>>
    >>>> That is really odd.
    >>>>
    >>>> My tabs are General-Java-Security-Advanced.
    >>>>
    >>>> Nothing about updating anywhere.
    >>>>
    >>>> I installed it offline, though.
    >>>
    >>> I installed mine offline, but I have the Update tab.
    >>>

    >>
    >> I just double checked in case I was nuts. No update tab.

    >
    >That doesn't mean you're not nuts. ;-)
    >


    Well, I am a little nuts about this one.

    I don't ever see dllhost.exe in Task Manager on my other two
    XP Pro machines.
     
  19. Daave

    Daave Flightless Bird

    WaIIy wrote:
    > On Tue, 10 Aug 2010 21:39:39 -0400, "Daave" <daave@example.com> wrote:
    >
    >> WaIIy wrote:
    >>> On Mon, 9 Aug 2010 22:02:24 -0400, "Daave" <daave@example.com>
    >>> wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> WaIIy wrote:
    >>>>> On Mon, 09 Aug 2010 21:13:43 -0400, Nil
    >>>>> <rednoise@REMOVETHIScomcast.net> wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>>> Version 1.6.0_21-b07.
    >>>>>> Yep, it's there.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> <http://home.comcast.net/~esionder/temp/JavaUD1.png>
    >>>>>
    >>>>> That is really odd.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> My tabs are General-Java-Security-Advanced.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Nothing about updating anywhere.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> I installed it offline, though.
    >>>>
    >>>> I installed mine offline, but I have the Update tab.
    >>>>
    >>>
    >>> I just double checked in case I was nuts. No update tab.

    >>
    >> Why not uninstall it? Then see if those instances of dllhost.exe go
    >> away.
    >>
    >> Then reinstall it. Then see if the Update tab is where it should be.
    >>
    >> Then report back whether or not the dllhost.exe instances return. If
    >> so, note which Web sites you recently visited use Java.
    >>
    >> My guess is what was mentioned here is happening:
    >>
    >> http://searchtasks.answersthatwork.com:80/tasklist.php?File=DLLHost
    >>
    >> "However, sometimes, if a Java COM object runs (this could happen if
    >> you are browsing the Internet and come to a page which has Java
    >> code), DLLHOST may not terminate, which is when you would see it in
    >> your Task List."
    >>
    >> That is, it would happen to *anyone* visiting that site (running XP
    >> and IE, presumably).
    >>

    >
    >
    > Well, I uninstalled Java and amd still getting it. Dang, I'm been
    > chasing my tail with the Java thing.


    Malware is always a possibility. Rootkits can be very tricky!
     
  20. WaIIy

    WaIIy Flightless Bird

    On Mon, 09 Aug 2010 23:04:44 -0400, Nil <rednoise@REMOVETHIScomcast.net>
    wrote:

    >On 09 Aug 2010, WaIIy <WaIIy@(nft).invalid> wrote in
    >microsoft.public.windowsxp.general:
    >
    >>><http://home.comcast.net/~esionder/temp/JavaUD1.png>

    >>
    >> That is really odd.
    >>
    >> My tabs are General-Java-Security-Advanced.
    >>
    >> Nothing about updating anywhere.
    >>
    >> I installed it offline, though.

    >
    >A quick google search found me a few references to the same problem,
    >but no real solutions. It seems to be a bug. I'd try uninstalling java,
    >then reinstalling.


    I can't figure it out. I also had msdtc.exe running with the two
    dllhost.exe.

    I went back to a June 29 ERUNDT backup and it all went away.

    If I ever figure it out, I'll post back.

    Until then, I appreciate all the suggestions.
    Wally
     

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