Data on a 3.5 diskette

[Den]

I realize this may be somewhat old school, but I have a problem with some
data on a 3.5 diskette using WinXP. I put some personal data in a '.xls'
file on a 3.5 diskette and update it every now and then. The other day when
I put the disk in to enter some new data, I received the following error
msg: "book1.xls" cannot be accessed. The file may be read-only, or you may
be trying to access a read-only location. Or, the server the document is
stored on may not be responding. My options at this point are "RETRY" or
"CANCEL".

I check the disk drive with other diskettes to see if it worked with them,
and they opened fine. I copied another *.xls file to the diskette to see if
I could access it, and it worked fine. I had no problem opening the 2nd
xls file on the diskette. I ran error checking on the disk, and it came up
clean. I tried disk-copy with no luck either. Can anyone help me with this,
or advise me where I can get help?

Thank you!
Dennis

 

[DL]

Presumably you tried to copy back to your HD, via command prompt?
Personally I would'nt edit any file stored on a floppy, niether would I use
a floppy or USB stick to store critical data, only for use in copying data
from A to B

"Den" <dcfz52@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:e1RMm9JvKHA.5340@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>I realize this may be somewhat old school, but I have a problem with some
>data on a 3.5 diskette using WinXP. I put some personal data in a '.xls'
>file on a 3.5 diskette and update it every now and then. The other day
>when I put the disk in to enter some new data, I received the following
>error msg: "book1.xls" cannot be accessed. The file may be read-only, or
>you may be trying to access a read-only location. Or, the server the
>document is stored on may not be responding. My options at this point are
>"RETRY" or "CANCEL".
>
> I check the disk drive with other diskettes to see if it worked with them,
> and they opened fine. I copied another *.xls file to the diskette to see
> if I could access it, and it worked fine. I had no problem opening the
> 2nd xls file on the diskette. I ran error checking on the disk, and it
> came up clean. I tried disk-copy with no luck either. Can anyone help me
> with this, or advise me where I can get help?
>
> Thank you!
> Dennis

 

[Anthony Buckland]

"Den" <dcfz52@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:e1RMm9JvKHA.5340@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>I realize this may be somewhat old school, but I have a problem with some
>data on a 3.5 diskette using WinXP. I put some personal data in a '.xls'
>file on a 3.5 diskette and update it every now and then. The other day
>when I put the disk in to enter some new data, I received the following
>error msg: "book1.xls" cannot be accessed. The file may be read-only, or
>you may be trying to access a read-only location. Or, the server the
>document is stored on may not be responding. My options at this point are
>"RETRY" or "CANCEL".
>
> I check the disk drive with other diskettes to see if it worked with them,
> and they opened fine. I copied another *.xls file to the diskette to see
> if I could access it, and it worked fine. I had no problem opening the
> 2nd xls file on the diskette. I ran error checking on the disk, and it
> came up clean. I tried disk-copy with no luck either. Can anyone help me
> with this, or advise me where I can get help?
>
> Thank you!
> Dennis

You didn't say whether you had checked the properties of
the offending file, to see whether you had accidentally set
it to read-only. Regarding copying the file, what happened
when you tried? Did it decline to copy? Did it create another
file, also unusable?

 

[EN59CVH]

DL wrote:
>

> Personally I would'nt edit any file stored on a floppy, niether would I use
> a floppy or USB stick to store critical data, only for use in copying data
> from A to B

who cares what you do or not do. USB sticks are meant to create backups
and there is nothing wrong to edit files directly on them.

You are jobless drug junkie and consequently without any brains. Your
opinion is not important here.

 

[EN59CVH]

I suggest boot up your system in safe mode and then copy everything from
the flash-drive to your HD in a temporary folder. Then perform a quick
format on your flash drive before re-using it. You can then put
everything back on this drive and you will be able to access your
files. It looks like you pulled the flash drive from the USB port
before doing the Safe Removal Operation.

hth


Den wrote:
>
> I realize this may be somewhat old school, but I have a problem with some
> data on a 3.5 diskette using WinXP. I put some personal data in a '.xls'
> file on a 3.5 diskette and update it every now and then. The other day when
> I put the disk in to enter some new data, I received the following error
> msg: "book1.xls" cannot be accessed. The file may be read-only, or you may
> be trying to access a read-only location. Or, the server the document is
> stored on may not be responding. My options at this point are "RETRY" or
> "CANCEL".
>
> I check the disk drive with other diskettes to see if it worked with them,
> and they opened fine. I copied another *.xls file to the diskette to see if
> I could access it, and it worked fine. I had no problem opening the 2nd
> xls file on the diskette. I ran error checking on the disk, and it came up
> clean. I tried disk-copy with no luck either. Can anyone help me with this,
> or advise me where I can get help?
>
> Thank you!
> Dennis

 

[Pegasus [MVP]]

"EN59CVH" <EN59CVH@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> I suggest boot up your system in safe mode and then copy everything from
> the flash-drive to your HD in a temporary folder. Then perform a quick
> format on your flash drive before re-using it. You can then put
> everything back on this drive and you will be able to access your
> files. It looks like you pulled the flash drive from the USB port
> before doing the Safe Removal Operation.
>
> hth

Mmh. Wasn't the OP talking about a 3.5" diskette?

 

[Gord Dibben]

What type of flash drive is a 3.5 inch diskette?


Gord

On Fri, 05 Mar 2010 23:148 +0000, EN59CVH
<EN59CVH@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>I suggest boot up your system in safe mode and then copy everything from
>the flash-drive to your HD in a temporary folder. Then perform a quick
>format on your flash drive before re-using it. You can then put
>everything back on this drive and you will be able to access your
>files. It looks like you pulled the flash drive from the USB port
>before doing the Safe Removal Operation.
>
>hth
>
>
>Den wrote:
>>
>> I realize this may be somewhat old school, but I have a problem with some
>> data on a 3.5 diskette using WinXP. I put some personal data in a '.xls'
>> file on a 3.5 diskette and update it every now and then. The other day when
>> I put the disk in to enter some new data, I received the following error
>> msg: "book1.xls" cannot be accessed. The file may be read-only, or you may
>> be trying to access a read-only location. Or, the server the document is
>> stored on may not be responding. My options at this point are "RETRY" or
>> "CANCEL".
>>
>> I check the disk drive with other diskettes to see if it worked with them,
>> and they opened fine. I copied another *.xls file to the diskette to see if
>> I could access it, and it worked fine. I had no problem opening the 2nd
>> xls file on the diskette. I ran error checking on the disk, and it came up
>> clean. I tried disk-copy with no luck either. Can anyone help me with this,
>> or advise me where I can get help?
>>
>> Thank you!
>> Dennis

 

[Gord Dibben]

Excel creates a temporary file on the source disk when the file is opened.

If the temp file is not properly deleted when you close the file, Excel
still thinks the file is open and gives the "read-only" message.

Very common when opening from or saving directly to a floppy diskette.

Not a practice I would recommend.


Gord

On Fri, 05 Mar 2010 23:010 +0000, EN59CVH
<EN59CVH@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>
>
>DL wrote:
>>
>
>> Personally I would'nt edit any file stored on a floppy, niether would I use
>> a floppy or USB stick to store critical data, only for use in copying data
>> from A to B
>
>who cares what you do or not do. USB sticks are meant to create backups
>and there is nothing wrong to edit files directly on them.
>
>You are jobless drug junkie and consequently without any brains. Your
>opinion is not important here.

 

[philo]

Den wrote:
> I realize this may be somewhat old school, but I have a problem with
> some data on a 3.5 diskette using WinXP. I put some personal data in a
> '.xls' file on a 3.5 diskette and update it every now and then. The
> other day when I put the disk in to enter some new data, I received the
> following error msg: "book1.xls" cannot be accessed. The file may be
> read-only, or you may be trying to access a read-only location. Or, the
> server the document is stored on may not be responding. My options at
> this point are "RETRY" or "CANCEL".
>
> I check the disk drive with other diskettes to see if it worked with
> them, and they opened fine. I copied another *.xls file to the diskette
> to see if I could access it, and it worked fine. I had no problem
> opening the 2nd xls file on the diskette. I ran error checking on the
> disk, and it came up clean. I tried disk-copy with no luck either. Can
> anyone help me with this, or advise me where I can get help?
>
> Thank you!
> Dennis



quit wasting your time and throw it out and use another one

 

[Big_Al]

Den said this on 3/5/2010 3:06 PM:
> I realize this may be somewhat old school, but I have a problem with
> some data on a 3.5 diskette using WinXP. I put some personal data in a
> '.xls' file on a 3.5 diskette and update it every now and then. The
> other day when I put the disk in to enter some new data, I received the
> following error msg: "book1.xls" cannot be accessed. The file may be
> read-only, or you may be trying to access a read-only location. Or, the
> server the document is stored on may not be responding. My options at
> this point are "RETRY" or "CANCEL".
>
> I check the disk drive with other diskettes to see if it worked with
> them, and they opened fine. I copied another *.xls file to the diskette
> to see if I could access it, and it worked fine. I had no problem
> opening the 2nd xls file on the diskette. I ran error checking on the
> disk, and it came up clean. I tried disk-copy with no luck either. Can
> anyone help me with this, or advise me where I can get help?
>
> Thank you!
> Dennis

You can try doing a chkdsk on it. Just like a hard drive. Problem is,
the program will fix the disc but you may lose the data.

 

[Gordon]

"Den" <dcfz52@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:e1RMm9JvKHA.5340@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> I realize this may be somewhat old school, but I have a problem with some
> data on a 3.5 diskette using WinXP. I put some personal data in a '.xls'
> file on a 3.5 diskette and update it every now and then. The other day
> when I put the disk in to enter some new data, I received the following
> error msg: "book1.xls" cannot be accessed. The file may be read-only, or
> you may be trying to access a read-only location. Or, the server the
> document is stored on may not be responding. My options at this point are
> "RETRY" or "CANCEL".
>
> I check the disk drive with other diskettes to see if it worked with them,
> and they opened fine. I copied another *.xls file to the diskette to see
> if I could access it, and it worked fine. I had no problem opening the
> 2nd xls file on the diskette. I ran error checking on the disk, and it
> came up clean. I tried disk-copy with no luck either. Can anyone help me
> with this, or advise me where I can get help?
>
> Thank you!
> Dennis

You NEVER edit MS Office files direct from a floppy disk. If you are old
enough to be using floppies then you should be old enough to know that doing
this is the quickest and easiest way to corrupted files.

You should be copying the file to your HDD, editing it from there and
re-saving to the floppy.
<aside> - why is ANYONE still using 3.5" floppy disks in the 21st century?
Even machines over TEN years old usually have USB ports....

 

[Twayne]

In news:%23KxttwUvKHA.2436@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl,
Gordon <gordonbparker@yahoo.com> typed:
> "Den" <dcfz52@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:e1RMm9JvKHA.5340@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> I realize this may be somewhat old school, but I have a
>> problem with some data on a 3.5 diskette using WinXP. I
>> put some personal data in a '.xls' file on a 3.5 diskette
>> and update it every now and then. The other day when I
>> put the disk in to enter some new data, I received the
>> following error msg: "book1.xls" cannot be accessed. The
>> file may be read-only, or you may be trying to access a
>> read-only location. Or, the server the document is stored
>> on may not be responding. My options at this point are
>> "RETRY" or "CANCEL". I check the disk drive with other diskettes to see
>> if it
>> worked with them, and they opened fine. I copied another
>> *.xls file to the diskette to see if I could access it,
>> and it worked fine. I had no problem opening the 2nd xls
>> file on the diskette. I ran error checking on the disk,
>> and it came up clean. I tried disk-copy with no luck
>> either. Can anyone help me with this, or advise me where I
>> can get help? Thank you!
>> Dennis
>
> You NEVER edit MS Office files direct from a floppy disk.
> If you are old enough to be using floppies then you should
> be old enough to know that doing this is the quickest and
> easiest way to corrupted files.
> You should be copying the file to your HDD, editing it from
> there and re-saving to the floppy.
> <aside> - why is ANYONE still using 3.5" floppy disks in
> the 21st century? Even machines over TEN years old usually
> have USB ports....

Because they're handy. Because I have a lot of them. Because I know the need
refreshing on about a monthly cycle. Because they're large enough for most
data I need to sneakernet around. Because they're so cheap. Because they
work. Because they're reliable when treated correctly. Because they were
handy when I was making ASR floppies and using ntbackup.exe. Because
they'll format while you do other things and you lose no time with them.
Because I want to.
Also, when I read a query about a 3.5" diskette, I don't respond with
"stick" answers.

<aside> Why would anyone worry about whether it was 21st century technology
or not? You ARE aware of course, that nearly all disk drive and memory is
20th century equiment, right? Along with 90% of the other components used in
your computer that was bought just last week?


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through personal experience does not become a
part of the moral tissue.

 

[Gordon]

"Twayne" <nobody@spamcop.net> wrote in message
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> Because they're so cheap.

Actually they aren't. MB for MB a flash drive is FAR cheaper than
floppies...

10 1.44 MB diskettes - £1.98. That's 14.4 MB for £1.98 - £0.14 per MB

2 *GB* flash drive £5.49. That's two THOUSAND MB for £5.49 - that' £.002 per
MB.
And flash drives last much longer than floppies...

 

[Ken Blake, MVP]

On Sun, 7 Mar 2010 08:187 -0000, "Gordon" <gordonbparker@yahoo.com>
wrote:

> MB for MB a flash drive is FAR cheaper than
> floppies...
>
> 10 1.44 MB diskettes - £1.98. That's 14.4 MB for £1.98 - £0.14 per MB
>
> 2 *GB* flash drive £5.49. That's two THOUSAND MB for £5.49 - that' £.002 per
> MB.



Good point, and one that I never thought about before.

As a general rule, the more bytes some storage device holds, the
cheaper it is per byte.

--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003
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[Twayne]

In news:e456B7cvKHA.5812@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl,
Gordon <gordonbparker@yahoo.com> typed:
> "Twayne" <nobody@spamcop.net> wrote in message
> news:uVjrgMavKHA.6140@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>
>> Because they're so cheap.

They ARE cheap. Who said anything about flash? Or compared the cost to
flash? No one asked for the cheapest cost/byte and which media. Your
attempt to redirect has failed.

Twayne

>
> Actually they aren't. MB for MB a flash drive is FAR
> cheaper than floppies...
>
> 10 1.44 MB diskettes - £1.98. That's 14.4 MB for £1.98 -
> £0.14 per MB
> 2 *GB* flash drive £5.49. That's two THOUSAND MB for £5.49
> - that' £.002 per MB.
> And flash drives last much longer than floppies...



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Life is the only real counselor; wisdom unfiltered
through personal experience does not become a
part of the moral tissue.

 

[Twayne]

In news:67e7p5h7l0eo73nbrlvm36m3h6dscu2p3i@4ax.com,
Ken Blake, MVP <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> typed:
> On Sun, 7 Mar 2010 08:187 -0000, "Gordon"
> <gordonbparker@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> MB for MB a flash drive is FAR cheaper than
>> floppies...
>>
>> 10 1.44 MB diskettes - £1.98. That's 14.4 MB for £1.98 -
>> £0.14 per MB
>>
>> 2 *GB* flash drive £5.49. That's two THOUSAND MB for £5.49
>> - that' £.002 per MB.
>
>
>
> Good point, and one that I never thought about before.
>
> As a general rule, the more bytes some storage device
> holds, the cheaper it is per byte.

But off topic and irrelevant since it has nothing to do with the OPs query.

--
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Life is the only real counselor; wisdom unfiltered
through personal experience does not become a
part of the moral tissue.

 

[Gordon]

"Twayne" <nobody@spamcop.net> wrote in message
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> In news:e456B7cvKHA.5812@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl,
> Gordon <gordonbparker@yahoo.com> typed:
>> "Twayne" <nobody@spamcop.net> wrote in message
>> news:uVjrgMavKHA.6140@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>
>>> Because they're so cheap.
>
> They ARE cheap. Who said anything about flash? Or compared the cost to
> flash? No one asked for the cheapest cost/byte and which media. Your
> attempt to redirect has failed.
>

Moron.

 

[Gordon]

"Twayne" <nobody@spamcop.net> wrote in message
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>
> But off topic and irrelevant since it has nothing to do with the OPs
> query.

Not at all. The question is - why would anyone want to use 1.44 MB floppy
discs anyway in the 21st century?

 

[ybS2okj]

"Gordon" <gordonbparker@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>

>
> Moron.

Another nutter who has leant a new word today! It seems all he knows is
complete and utter rubbish. His mummy is to busy s u c king c0cks!

 

[Twayne]

In newsKB2gGkvKHA.5008@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl,
Gordon <gordonbparker@yahoo.com> typed:
> "Twayne" <nobody@spamcop.net> wrote in message
> newsi8QeCkvKHA.732@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>
>> But off topic and irrelevant since it has nothing to do
>> with the OPs query.
>
> Not at all. The question is - why would anyone want to use
> 1.44 MB floppy discs anyway in the 21st century?

And now you have a few reasong; I'm sure there are more.
HTH,

Twayne`
--
Life is the only real counselor; wisdom unfiltered
through personal experience does not become a
part of the moral tissue.