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Data on a 3.5 diskette

Discussion in 'Windows XP' started by Den, Mar 5, 2010.

  1. Den

    Den Flightless Bird

    I realize this may be somewhat old school, but I have a problem with some
    data on a 3.5 diskette using WinXP. I put some personal data in a '.xls'
    file on a 3.5 diskette and update it every now and then. The other day when
    I put the disk in to enter some new data, I received the following error
    msg: "book1.xls" cannot be accessed. The file may be read-only, or you may
    be trying to access a read-only location. Or, the server the document is
    stored on may not be responding. My options at this point are "RETRY" or
    "CANCEL".

    I check the disk drive with other diskettes to see if it worked with them,
    and they opened fine. I copied another *.xls file to the diskette to see if
    I could access it, and it worked fine. I had no problem opening the 2nd
    xls file on the diskette. I ran error checking on the disk, and it came up
    clean. I tried disk-copy with no luck either. Can anyone help me with this,
    or advise me where I can get help?

    Thank you!
    Dennis
     
  2. DL

    DL Flightless Bird

    Presumably you tried to copy back to your HD, via command prompt?
    Personally I would'nt edit any file stored on a floppy, niether would I use
    a floppy or USB stick to store critical data, only for use in copying data
    from A to B

    "Den" <dcfz52@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
    news:e1RMm9JvKHA.5340@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
    >I realize this may be somewhat old school, but I have a problem with some
    >data on a 3.5 diskette using WinXP. I put some personal data in a '.xls'
    >file on a 3.5 diskette and update it every now and then. The other day
    >when I put the disk in to enter some new data, I received the following
    >error msg: "book1.xls" cannot be accessed. The file may be read-only, or
    >you may be trying to access a read-only location. Or, the server the
    >document is stored on may not be responding. My options at this point are
    >"RETRY" or "CANCEL".
    >
    > I check the disk drive with other diskettes to see if it worked with them,
    > and they opened fine. I copied another *.xls file to the diskette to see
    > if I could access it, and it worked fine. I had no problem opening the
    > 2nd xls file on the diskette. I ran error checking on the disk, and it
    > came up clean. I tried disk-copy with no luck either. Can anyone help me
    > with this, or advise me where I can get help?
    >
    > Thank you!
    > Dennis
     
  3. Anthony Buckland

    Anthony Buckland Flightless Bird

    "Den" <dcfz52@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
    news:e1RMm9JvKHA.5340@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
    >I realize this may be somewhat old school, but I have a problem with some
    >data on a 3.5 diskette using WinXP. I put some personal data in a '.xls'
    >file on a 3.5 diskette and update it every now and then. The other day
    >when I put the disk in to enter some new data, I received the following
    >error msg: "book1.xls" cannot be accessed. The file may be read-only, or
    >you may be trying to access a read-only location. Or, the server the
    >document is stored on may not be responding. My options at this point are
    >"RETRY" or "CANCEL".
    >
    > I check the disk drive with other diskettes to see if it worked with them,
    > and they opened fine. I copied another *.xls file to the diskette to see
    > if I could access it, and it worked fine. I had no problem opening the
    > 2nd xls file on the diskette. I ran error checking on the disk, and it
    > came up clean. I tried disk-copy with no luck either. Can anyone help me
    > with this, or advise me where I can get help?
    >
    > Thank you!
    > Dennis


    You didn't say whether you had checked the properties of
    the offending file, to see whether you had accidentally set
    it to read-only. Regarding copying the file, what happened
    when you tried? Did it decline to copy? Did it create another
    file, also unusable?
     
  4. EN59CVH

    EN59CVH Flightless Bird

    DL wrote:
    >


    > Personally I would'nt edit any file stored on a floppy, niether would I use
    > a floppy or USB stick to store critical data, only for use in copying data
    > from A to B


    who cares what you do or not do. USB sticks are meant to create backups
    and there is nothing wrong to edit files directly on them.

    You are jobless drug junkie and consequently without any brains. Your
    opinion is not important here.
     
  5. EN59CVH

    EN59CVH Flightless Bird

    I suggest boot up your system in safe mode and then copy everything from
    the flash-drive to your HD in a temporary folder. Then perform a quick
    format on your flash drive before re-using it. You can then put
    everything back on this drive and you will be able to access your
    files. It looks like you pulled the flash drive from the USB port
    before doing the Safe Removal Operation.

    hth


    Den wrote:
    >
    > I realize this may be somewhat old school, but I have a problem with some
    > data on a 3.5 diskette using WinXP. I put some personal data in a '.xls'
    > file on a 3.5 diskette and update it every now and then. The other day when
    > I put the disk in to enter some new data, I received the following error
    > msg: "book1.xls" cannot be accessed. The file may be read-only, or you may
    > be trying to access a read-only location. Or, the server the document is
    > stored on may not be responding. My options at this point are "RETRY" or
    > "CANCEL".
    >
    > I check the disk drive with other diskettes to see if it worked with them,
    > and they opened fine. I copied another *.xls file to the diskette to see if
    > I could access it, and it worked fine. I had no problem opening the 2nd
    > xls file on the diskette. I ran error checking on the disk, and it came up
    > clean. I tried disk-copy with no luck either. Can anyone help me with this,
    > or advise me where I can get help?
    >
    > Thank you!
    > Dennis
     
  6. Pegasus [MVP]

    Pegasus [MVP] Flightless Bird

    "EN59CVH" <EN59CVH@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    news:4B91905E.F9988708@discussions.microsoft.com...
    > I suggest boot up your system in safe mode and then copy everything from
    > the flash-drive to your HD in a temporary folder. Then perform a quick
    > format on your flash drive before re-using it. You can then put
    > everything back on this drive and you will be able to access your
    > files. It looks like you pulled the flash drive from the USB port
    > before doing the Safe Removal Operation.
    >
    > hth


    Mmh. Wasn't the OP talking about a 3.5" diskette?
     
  7. Gord Dibben

    Gord Dibben Flightless Bird

    What type of flash drive is a 3.5 inch diskette?


    Gord

    On Fri, 05 Mar 2010 23:14:38 +0000, EN59CVH
    <EN59CVH@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

    >I suggest boot up your system in safe mode and then copy everything from
    >the flash-drive to your HD in a temporary folder. Then perform a quick
    >format on your flash drive before re-using it. You can then put
    >everything back on this drive and you will be able to access your
    >files. It looks like you pulled the flash drive from the USB port
    >before doing the Safe Removal Operation.
    >
    >hth
    >
    >
    >Den wrote:
    >>
    >> I realize this may be somewhat old school, but I have a problem with some
    >> data on a 3.5 diskette using WinXP. I put some personal data in a '.xls'
    >> file on a 3.5 diskette and update it every now and then. The other day when
    >> I put the disk in to enter some new data, I received the following error
    >> msg: "book1.xls" cannot be accessed. The file may be read-only, or you may
    >> be trying to access a read-only location. Or, the server the document is
    >> stored on may not be responding. My options at this point are "RETRY" or
    >> "CANCEL".
    >>
    >> I check the disk drive with other diskettes to see if it worked with them,
    >> and they opened fine. I copied another *.xls file to the diskette to see if
    >> I could access it, and it worked fine. I had no problem opening the 2nd
    >> xls file on the diskette. I ran error checking on the disk, and it came up
    >> clean. I tried disk-copy with no luck either. Can anyone help me with this,
    >> or advise me where I can get help?
    >>
    >> Thank you!
    >> Dennis
     
  8. Gord Dibben

    Gord Dibben Flightless Bird

    Excel creates a temporary file on the source disk when the file is opened.

    If the temp file is not properly deleted when you close the file, Excel
    still thinks the file is open and gives the "read-only" message.

    Very common when opening from or saving directly to a floppy diskette.

    Not a practice I would recommend.


    Gord

    On Fri, 05 Mar 2010 23:01:30 +0000, EN59CVH
    <EN59CVH@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

    >
    >
    >DL wrote:
    >>

    >
    >> Personally I would'nt edit any file stored on a floppy, niether would I use
    >> a floppy or USB stick to store critical data, only for use in copying data
    >> from A to B

    >
    >who cares what you do or not do. USB sticks are meant to create backups
    >and there is nothing wrong to edit files directly on them.
    >
    >You are jobless drug junkie and consequently without any brains. Your
    >opinion is not important here.
     
  9. philo

    philo Flightless Bird

    Den wrote:
    > I realize this may be somewhat old school, but I have a problem with
    > some data on a 3.5 diskette using WinXP. I put some personal data in a
    > '.xls' file on a 3.5 diskette and update it every now and then. The
    > other day when I put the disk in to enter some new data, I received the
    > following error msg: "book1.xls" cannot be accessed. The file may be
    > read-only, or you may be trying to access a read-only location. Or, the
    > server the document is stored on may not be responding. My options at
    > this point are "RETRY" or "CANCEL".
    >
    > I check the disk drive with other diskettes to see if it worked with
    > them, and they opened fine. I copied another *.xls file to the diskette
    > to see if I could access it, and it worked fine. I had no problem
    > opening the 2nd xls file on the diskette. I ran error checking on the
    > disk, and it came up clean. I tried disk-copy with no luck either. Can
    > anyone help me with this, or advise me where I can get help?
    >
    > Thank you!
    > Dennis




    quit wasting your time and throw it out and use another one
     
  10. Big_Al

    Big_Al Flightless Bird

    Den said this on 3/5/2010 3:06 PM:
    > I realize this may be somewhat old school, but I have a problem with
    > some data on a 3.5 diskette using WinXP. I put some personal data in a
    > '.xls' file on a 3.5 diskette and update it every now and then. The
    > other day when I put the disk in to enter some new data, I received the
    > following error msg: "book1.xls" cannot be accessed. The file may be
    > read-only, or you may be trying to access a read-only location. Or, the
    > server the document is stored on may not be responding. My options at
    > this point are "RETRY" or "CANCEL".
    >
    > I check the disk drive with other diskettes to see if it worked with
    > them, and they opened fine. I copied another *.xls file to the diskette
    > to see if I could access it, and it worked fine. I had no problem
    > opening the 2nd xls file on the diskette. I ran error checking on the
    > disk, and it came up clean. I tried disk-copy with no luck either. Can
    > anyone help me with this, or advise me where I can get help?
    >
    > Thank you!
    > Dennis


    You can try doing a chkdsk on it. Just like a hard drive. Problem is,
    the program will fix the disc but you may lose the data.
     
  11. Gordon

    Gordon Flightless Bird

    "Den" <dcfz52@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
    news:e1RMm9JvKHA.5340@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
    > I realize this may be somewhat old school, but I have a problem with some
    > data on a 3.5 diskette using WinXP. I put some personal data in a '.xls'
    > file on a 3.5 diskette and update it every now and then. The other day
    > when I put the disk in to enter some new data, I received the following
    > error msg: "book1.xls" cannot be accessed. The file may be read-only, or
    > you may be trying to access a read-only location. Or, the server the
    > document is stored on may not be responding. My options at this point are
    > "RETRY" or "CANCEL".
    >
    > I check the disk drive with other diskettes to see if it worked with them,
    > and they opened fine. I copied another *.xls file to the diskette to see
    > if I could access it, and it worked fine. I had no problem opening the
    > 2nd xls file on the diskette. I ran error checking on the disk, and it
    > came up clean. I tried disk-copy with no luck either. Can anyone help me
    > with this, or advise me where I can get help?
    >
    > Thank you!
    > Dennis


    You NEVER edit MS Office files direct from a floppy disk. If you are old
    enough to be using floppies then you should be old enough to know that doing
    this is the quickest and easiest way to corrupted files.

    You should be copying the file to your HDD, editing it from there and
    re-saving to the floppy.
    <aside> - why is ANYONE still using 3.5" floppy disks in the 21st century?
    Even machines over TEN years old usually have USB ports....
     
  12. Twayne

    Twayne Flightless Bird

    In news:%23KxttwUvKHA.2436@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl,
    Gordon <gordonbparker@yahoo.com> typed:
    > "Den" <dcfz52@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
    > news:e1RMm9JvKHA.5340@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
    >> I realize this may be somewhat old school, but I have a
    >> problem with some data on a 3.5 diskette using WinXP. I
    >> put some personal data in a '.xls' file on a 3.5 diskette
    >> and update it every now and then. The other day when I
    >> put the disk in to enter some new data, I received the
    >> following error msg: "book1.xls" cannot be accessed. The
    >> file may be read-only, or you may be trying to access a
    >> read-only location. Or, the server the document is stored
    >> on may not be responding. My options at this point are
    >> "RETRY" or "CANCEL". I check the disk drive with other diskettes to see
    >> if it
    >> worked with them, and they opened fine. I copied another
    >> *.xls file to the diskette to see if I could access it,
    >> and it worked fine. I had no problem opening the 2nd xls
    >> file on the diskette. I ran error checking on the disk,
    >> and it came up clean. I tried disk-copy with no luck
    >> either. Can anyone help me with this, or advise me where I
    >> can get help? Thank you!
    >> Dennis

    >
    > You NEVER edit MS Office files direct from a floppy disk.
    > If you are old enough to be using floppies then you should
    > be old enough to know that doing this is the quickest and
    > easiest way to corrupted files.
    > You should be copying the file to your HDD, editing it from
    > there and re-saving to the floppy.
    > <aside> - why is ANYONE still using 3.5" floppy disks in
    > the 21st century? Even machines over TEN years old usually
    > have USB ports....


    Because they're handy. Because I have a lot of them. Because I know the need
    refreshing on about a monthly cycle. Because they're large enough for most
    data I need to sneakernet around. Because they're so cheap. Because they
    work. Because they're reliable when treated correctly. Because they were
    handy when I was making ASR floppies and using ntbackup.exe. Because
    they'll format while you do other things and you lose no time with them.
    Because I want to.
    Also, when I read a query about a 3.5" diskette, I don't respond with
    "stick" answers.

    <aside> Why would anyone worry about whether it was 21st century technology
    or not? You ARE aware of course, that nearly all disk drive and memory is
    20th century equiment, right? Along with 90% of the other components used in
    your computer that was bought just last week?


    --
    --
    Life is the only real counselor; wisdom unfiltered
    through personal experience does not become a
    part of the moral tissue.
     
  13. Gordon

    Gordon Flightless Bird

    "Twayne" <nobody@spamcop.net> wrote in message
    news:uVjrgMavKHA.6140@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

    > Because they're so cheap.


    Actually they aren't. MB for MB a flash drive is FAR cheaper than
    floppies...

    10 1.44 MB diskettes - £1.98. That's 14.4 MB for £1.98 - £0.14 per MB

    2 *GB* flash drive £5.49. That's two THOUSAND MB for £5.49 - that' £.002 per
    MB.
    And flash drives last much longer than floppies...
     
  14. Ken Blake, MVP

    Ken Blake, MVP Flightless Bird

    On Sun, 7 Mar 2010 08:18:37 -0000, "Gordon" <gordonbparker@yahoo.com>
    wrote:

    > MB for MB a flash drive is FAR cheaper than
    > floppies...
    >
    > 10 1.44 MB diskettes - £1.98. That's 14.4 MB for £1.98 - £0.14 per MB
    >
    > 2 *GB* flash drive £5.49. That's two THOUSAND MB for £5.49 - that' £.002 per
    > MB.




    Good point, and one that I never thought about before.

    As a general rule, the more bytes some storage device holds, the
    cheaper it is per byte.

    --
    Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003
    Please Reply to the Newsgroup
     
  15. Twayne

    Twayne Flightless Bird

    In news:e456B7cvKHA.5812@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl,
    Gordon <gordonbparker@yahoo.com> typed:
    > "Twayne" <nobody@spamcop.net> wrote in message
    > news:uVjrgMavKHA.6140@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
    >
    >> Because they're so cheap.


    They ARE cheap. Who said anything about flash? Or compared the cost to
    flash? No one asked for the cheapest cost/byte and which media. Your
    attempt to redirect has failed.

    Twayne

    >
    > Actually they aren't. MB for MB a flash drive is FAR
    > cheaper than floppies...
    >
    > 10 1.44 MB diskettes - £1.98. That's 14.4 MB for £1.98 -
    > £0.14 per MB
    > 2 *GB* flash drive £5.49. That's two THOUSAND MB for £5.49
    > - that' £.002 per MB.
    > And flash drives last much longer than floppies...




    --
    --
    Life is the only real counselor; wisdom unfiltered
    through personal experience does not become a
    part of the moral tissue.
     
  16. Twayne

    Twayne Flightless Bird

    In news:67e7p5h7l0eo73nbrlvm36m3h6dscu2p3i@4ax.com,
    Ken Blake, MVP <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> typed:
    > On Sun, 7 Mar 2010 08:18:37 -0000, "Gordon"
    > <gordonbparker@yahoo.com> wrote:
    >
    >> MB for MB a flash drive is FAR cheaper than
    >> floppies...
    >>
    >> 10 1.44 MB diskettes - £1.98. That's 14.4 MB for £1.98 -
    >> £0.14 per MB
    >>
    >> 2 *GB* flash drive £5.49. That's two THOUSAND MB for £5.49
    >> - that' £.002 per MB.

    >
    >
    >
    > Good point, and one that I never thought about before.
    >
    > As a general rule, the more bytes some storage device
    > holds, the cheaper it is per byte.


    But off topic and irrelevant since it has nothing to do with the OPs query.

    --
    --
    Life is the only real counselor; wisdom unfiltered
    through personal experience does not become a
    part of the moral tissue.
     
  17. Gordon

    Gordon Flightless Bird

    "Twayne" <nobody@spamcop.net> wrote in message
    news:-O3lDBCkvKHA.5008@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
    > In news:e456B7cvKHA.5812@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl,
    > Gordon <gordonbparker@yahoo.com> typed:
    >> "Twayne" <nobody@spamcop.net> wrote in message
    >> news:uVjrgMavKHA.6140@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
    >>
    >>> Because they're so cheap.

    >
    > They ARE cheap. Who said anything about flash? Or compared the cost to
    > flash? No one asked for the cheapest cost/byte and which media. Your
    > attempt to redirect has failed.
    >


    Moron.
     
  18. Gordon

    Gordon Flightless Bird

    "Twayne" <nobody@spamcop.net> wrote in message
    news:-Oi8QeCkvKHA.732@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
    >
    > But off topic and irrelevant since it has nothing to do with the OPs
    > query.


    Not at all. The question is - why would anyone want to use 1.44 MB floppy
    discs anyway in the 21st century?
     
  19. ybS2okj

    ybS2okj Flightless Bird

    "Gordon" <gordonbparker@yahoo.com> wrote in message
    news:eGV0iFkvKHA.1984@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
    >


    >
    > Moron.


    Another nutter who has leant a new word today! It seems all he knows is
    complete and utter rubbish. His mummy is to busy s u c king c0cks!
     
  20. Twayne

    Twayne Flightless Bird

    In news:-OKB2gGkvKHA.5008@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl,
    Gordon <gordonbparker@yahoo.com> typed:
    > "Twayne" <nobody@spamcop.net> wrote in message
    > news:-Oi8QeCkvKHA.732@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
    >>
    >> But off topic and irrelevant since it has nothing to do
    >> with the OPs query.

    >
    > Not at all. The question is - why would anyone want to use
    > 1.44 MB floppy discs anyway in the 21st century?


    And now you have a few reasong; I'm sure there are more.
    HTH,

    Twayne`
    --
    Life is the only real counselor; wisdom unfiltered
    through personal experience does not become a
    part of the moral tissue.
     

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