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Cox and UseNet - This S U C K S ! ! !

Discussion in 'Windows 7' started by Tom C, May 12, 2010.

  1. Tom C

    Tom C Flightless Bird

    When I first saw the post about Cox eliminating Newsgroup access, I didn't
    take it too seriously, but I should have seen the signs. You can blame that
    on a momentary lack of logic on my part. I just thought that since we
    haven't gotten any notifications from Cox, that it may be a regional thing.
    I started getting the notifications two days ago now. According to Cox,
    they are removing Usenet access across the board to ALL of their customers.
    Their excuse is that UseNet is taking resources that can best be used in
    other areas. They are promoting Giganews and have made a deal with them to
    provide UseNet access for at whopping 10 % discount for Cox subscribers
    after a 2 month special for only 2.95 or something like that. I don't know
    about the rest of this group, but flaming and trolling aside, I do patrol
    UseNet for a lot of information I use to fix my computers when something
    goes wrong. I also use it to access a few special interest groups. The
    "interest groups" can be accessed in forums too, but again, I don't like the
    way they display. (Guess, I'm an old fart and like things the way they
    are.) I looked at Google Groups, which is free, and have checked out a
    couple other sites that looked at first to be something I might be able to
    use, but there really isn't anything that I have seen that comes close to
    the ease of use of programs like WLM. Does anybody here have any ideas on a
    decent program, site, or anything that might allow access to UseNet that
    will provide similar look as Outlook Express or WLM? I'm expecting not and
    I realize this is off topic, but I still thought I would ask.
     
  2. smithdoerr

    smithdoerr Flightless Bird

    "Tom C" <bettablue@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    news:vXyGn.5368$mi.122@newsfe01.iad...
    > Does anybody here have any ideas on a decent program, site, or anything
    > that might allow access to UseNet that will provide similar look as
    > Outlook Express or WLM? I'm expecting not and I realize this is off
    > topic, but I still thought I would ask.


    news.eternal-september.org is free but no binary groups.


    --

    -smithdoerr
     
  3. Gordon

    Gordon Flightless Bird

    "Tom C" <bettablue@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    news:vXyGn.5368$mi.122@newsfe01.iad...
    > Does anybody here have any ideas on a decent program, site, or anything
    > that might allow access to UseNet that will provide similar look as
    > Outlook Express or WLM? I'm expecting not and I realize this is off
    > topic, but I still thought I would ask.


    Try www.eternal-september.org
     
  4. ray

    ray Flightless Bird

    On Wed, 12 May 2010 07:29:45 -0700, Tom C wrote:

    > When I first saw the post about Cox eliminating Newsgroup access, I
    > didn't take it too seriously, but I should have seen the signs. You can
    > blame that on a momentary lack of logic on my part. I just thought
    > that since we haven't gotten any notifications from Cox, that it may be
    > a regional thing. I started getting the notifications two days ago now.
    > According to Cox, they are removing Usenet access across the board to
    > ALL of their customers. Their excuse is that UseNet is taking resources
    > that can best be used in other areas. They are promoting Giganews and
    > have made a deal with them to provide UseNet access for at whopping 10 %
    > discount for Cox subscribers after a 2 month special for only 2.95 or
    > something like that. I don't know about the rest of this group, but
    > flaming and trolling aside, I do patrol UseNet for a lot of information
    > I use to fix my computers when something goes wrong. I also use it to
    > access a few special interest groups. The "interest groups" can be
    > accessed in forums too, but again, I don't like the way they display.
    > (Guess, I'm an old fart and like things the way they are.) I looked at
    > Google Groups, which is free, and have checked out a couple other sites
    > that looked at first to be something I might be able to use, but there
    > really isn't anything that I have seen that comes close to the ease of
    > use of programs like WLM. Does anybody here have any ideas on a decent
    > program, site, or anything that might allow access to UseNet that will
    > provide similar look as Outlook Express or WLM? I'm expecting not and I
    > realize this is off topic, but I still thought I would ask.


    I tried a few free servers and was not overly pleased - I currently pay
    12 euros per year for news.individual.net.
     
  5. XS11E

    XS11E Flightless Bird

    "Tom C" <bettablue@hotmail.com> wrote:

    > When I first saw the post about Cox eliminating Newsgroup access,


    Cox is merely joining the crowd.

    I'll second the suggestion to try Eternal September for text only
    newsgroups, if you want access to binary newsgroups there are many
    options but very few (if any!) are free.

    http://www.eternal-september.org/

    --
    XS11E, Killing all posts from Google Groups
    The Usenet Improvement Project:
    http://twovoyagers.com/improve-usenet.org/
     
  6. Tim Slattery

    Tim Slattery Flightless Bird

    "Tom C" <bettablue@hotmail.com> wrote:

    > Does anybody here have any ideas on a
    >decent program, site, or anything that might allow access to UseNet that
    >will provide similar look as Outlook Express or WLM? I'm expecting not and
    >I realize this is off topic, but I still thought I would ask.


    You can use Outlook Express, WLM, Agent, Thunderbird or whatever with
    any Usenet server, none are tied to Cox or anybody else.
    Eternal--september has been good for me, there are many other free and
    low-cost providers.

    --
    Tim Slattery
    Slattery_T@bls.gov
    http://members.cox.net/slatteryt
     
  7. Zaidy036

    Zaidy036 Flightless Bird

    In article <s3llu55n0bg4002tlaq6k0l1194v8ri03a@4ax.com>, Slattery_T@bls.gov
    says...
    >
    > "Tom C" <bettablue@hotmail.com> wrote:
    >
    > > Does anybody here have any ideas on a
    > >decent program, site, or anything that might allow access to UseNet that
    > >will provide similar look as Outlook Express or WLM? I'm expecting not and
    > >I realize this is off topic, but I still thought I would ask.

    >
    > You can use Outlook Express, WLM, Agent, Thunderbird or whatever with
    > any Usenet server, none are tied to Cox or anybody else.
    > Eternal--september has been good for me, there are many other free and
    > low-cost providers.


    The free Gravity is very configurable and works in my 64 bit Win 7
    http://mpgravity.sourceforge.net/
     
  8. Agent_C

    Agent_C Flightless Bird

    On Wed, 12 May 2010 07:29:45 -0700, "Tom C" <bettablue@hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    >When I first saw the post about Cox eliminating Newsgroup access, I didn't
    >take it too seriously, but I should have seen the signs.


    It's happed to pretty much all of us over the last 5 years or so;
    ISP's dropping Usenet. In a way it's good, as people have been steered
    to stand-alone providers like Giganews, who offer _much_ better
    provisioning than most ISP's ever did. And lets face it, its cheap.

    A_C
     
  9. Seth

    Seth Flightless Bird

    "smithdoerr" <mail@somewhere.com> wrote in message
    news:hseej4$ikq$1@news.eternal-september.org...
    >
    > "Tom C" <bettablue@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    > news:vXyGn.5368$mi.122@newsfe01.iad...
    >> Does anybody here have any ideas on a decent program, site, or anything
    >> that might allow access to UseNet that will provide similar look as
    >> Outlook Express or WLM? I'm expecting not and I realize this is off
    >> topic, but I still thought I would ask.

    >
    > news.eternal-september.org is free but no binary groups.



    Actually "some" binary groups have been added recently, but not many. Don't
    know their content as I use Easynews for that.
     
  10. gumby

    gumby Flightless Bird

    On 12/05/2010 11:02 AM, Seth wrote:

    > Actually "some" binary groups have been added recently, but not many.
    > Don't know their content as I use Easynews for that.
    >
    >


    I used to use Easynews until someone told me about Astraweb. Now I can
    buy chunks of GBs with no time limit. $20.00 has lasted me well over 6
    months already.
     
  11. gumby

    gumby Flightless Bird

    On 12/05/2010 10:33 AM, Agent_C wrote:

    >
    > It's happed to pretty much all of us over the last 5 years or so;
    > ISP's dropping Usenet. In a way it's good, as people have been steered
    > to stand-alone providers like Giganews, who offer _much_ better
    > provisioning than most ISP's ever did. And lets face it, its cheap.
    >
    > A_C


    Yea, my ISP has a Usenet server and I can read posts from it but anytime
    I attempt to make a post with it I get a timeout. Complete shit and is
    why I use Eternal for text and Astraweb for binary. I phoned my ISP to
    ask why I am getting timeouts all the time when posting and the tech guy
    didn't even know what Usenet is and didn't know they provided a Usenet
    server.
     
  12. milt

    milt Flightless Bird

    On 5/12/2010 1:17 PM, gumby wrote:
    >
    > Yea, my ISP has a Usenet server and I can read posts from it but anytime
    > I attempt to make a post with it I get a timeout. Complete shit and is
    > why I use Eternal for text and Astraweb for binary. I phoned my ISP to
    > ask why I am getting timeouts all the time when posting and the tech guy
    > didn't even know what Usenet is and didn't know they provided a Usenet
    > server.


    They probably forgot they even have it, which is why its not working
    well. Their solution will probably be to shut it off soon. Most ISPs
    have done that simply because they don't want to deal with usenet and
    most of their customers have no clue what it is because you can't "point
    and click" to get it.

    Which is fine by me, the more clueless people that get off Usenet, the
    better. It might have a chance of getting back to the way it was before
    the AOL invasion.
     
  13. Andy from Dover

    Andy from Dover Flightless Bird

    "Seth" <seth_lermanNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    news:hseqd2$eur$1@news.eternal-september.org...
    > "smithdoerr" <mail@somewhere.com> wrote in message
    > news:hseej4$ikq$1@news.eternal-september.org...
    > >
    > > "Tom C" <bettablue@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    > > news:vXyGn.5368$mi.122@newsfe01.iad...
    > >> Does anybody here have any ideas on a decent program, site, or anything
    > >> that might allow access to UseNet that will provide similar look as
    > >> Outlook Express or WLM? I'm expecting not and I realize this is off
    > >> topic, but I still thought I would ask.

    > >
    > > news.eternal-september.org is free but no binary groups.

    >
    >
    > Actually "some" binary groups have been added recently, but not many.

    Don't
    > know their content as I use Easynews for that.
    >

    There is alt.binaries.photos.original as I subscribe to that. Lots of
    interesting photos.

    I agree there aren't that many binaries, but there are some so ES isn't
    opposed to them. Because of that I suspect more will follow.

    The days of IP Usenet is over, free (and cheap) usenets are now reliable and
    numerous. :)
     
  14. XS11E

    XS11E Flightless Bird

    "Andy from Dover" <cheadle@juno.com> wrote:

    > The days of IP Usenet is over,


    That might be true, I believe that Cox is the last (or one of the last)
    ISP in the US to drop Usenet.

    If there are any ISPs remaining that still provide Usenet access I
    don't know who they are....

    --
    XS11E, Killing all posts from Google Groups
    The Usenet Improvement Project:
    http://twovoyagers.com/improve-usenet.org/
     
  15. Char Jackson

    Char Jackson Flightless Bird

    On Wed, 12 May 2010 16:04:05 -0700, XS11E <xs11eNO@SPAMyahoo.com>
    wrote:

    >"Andy from Dover" <cheadle@juno.com> wrote:
    >
    >> The days of IP Usenet is over,

    >
    >That might be true, I believe that Cox is the last (or one of the last)
    >ISP in the US to drop Usenet.
    >
    >If there are any ISPs remaining that still provide Usenet access I
    >don't know who they are....


    Knology is one...
     
  16. Tom C

    Tom C Flightless Bird

    Original text removed.

    I want to thank everybody for the suggestions. I have what appears to be a
    good list to look into. With what everyone has to say, I'm surprised then
    that Cox has held on so long.

    Thanks again.

    Easynews
    news.eternal-september.org
    Astraweb
    news.individual.net
    http://mpgravity.sourceforge.net/
     
  17. Andrew

    Andrew Flightless Bird

    "Gordon" <gordonbparker@yahoo.com> wrote in message
    news:hseeja$c5d$1@news.eternal-september.org...
    >
    > "Tom C" <bettablue@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    > news:vXyGn.5368$mi.122@newsfe01.iad...
    >> Does anybody here have any ideas on a decent program, site, or anything
    >> that might allow access to UseNet that will provide similar look as
    >> Outlook Express or WLM? I'm expecting not and I realize this is off
    >> topic, but I still thought I would ask.

    >
    > Try www.eternal-september.org
    >
    >


    +1

    --
    Andrew
     
  18. Dave

    Dave Flightless Bird

    "XS11E" <xs11eNO@SPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message
    news:Xns9D76A374458FBxs11eyahoocom@127.0.0.1...
    > "Andy from Dover" <cheadle@juno.com> wrote:
    >
    >> The days of IP Usenet is over,

    >
    > That might be true, I believe that Cox is the last (or one of the last)
    > ISP in the US to drop Usenet.
    >
    > If there are any ISPs remaining that still provide Usenet access I
    > don't know who they are....
    >
    > --
    > XS11E, Killing all posts from Google Groups
    > The Usenet Improvement Project:
    > http://twovoyagers.com/improve-usenet.org/


    My ISP is WideOpenWest (Wowway) and they still have usenet, however they
    have restricted dl's to 5GB month.
    Dave
     
  19. Frederick J. Barnett

    Frederick J. Barnett Flightless Bird

    On Thu, 13 May 2010 10:11:23 -0500, "Dave" <davidj92@wowway.com>
    wrote:


    >My ISP is WideOpenWest (Wowway) and they still have usenet, however they
    >have restricted dl's to 5GB month.
    >

    My ISP is the local phone company. They allow 10 GB a month,
    but they carry all the groups, and it's fiber optic, so downloads are
    real fast.


    Frederick J. Barnett http://www.eatel.net/~fred/
    "Someone's got to take the responsibility if the job's going to get done!! Do you think that's easy?!" Gregory Peck - The Guns Of Navarone
     
  20. Dave

    Dave Flightless Bird

    "Frederick J. Barnett" <fred@eatel.net> wrote in message
    news:vuqou55qpi6t9lmr8fqdhqd3uorhrah6qk@4ax.com...
    > On Thu, 13 May 2010 10:11:23 -0500, "Dave" <davidj92@wowway.com>
    > wrote:
    >
    >
    >>My ISP is WideOpenWest (Wowway) and they still have usenet, however they
    >>have restricted dl's to 5GB month.
    >>

    > My ISP is the local phone company. They allow 10 GB a month,
    > but they carry all the groups, and it's fiber optic, so downloads are
    > real fast.
    >
    >
    > Frederick J. Barnett http://www.eatel.net/~fred/
    > "Someone's got to take the responsibility if the job's going to get done!!
    > Do you think that's easy?!" Gregory Peck - The Guns Of Navarone


    Fred,
    I perused your web page and it's impressive. I especially liked finding
    another MST3K fan, thought they had all faded into the sunset. What a show,
    it was the funniest thing to come out of TV since Monty Python and Howe
    Mendel.
    Keep the faith,
    Dave
     

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