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Copy files to second hard disk

Discussion in 'Windows XP' started by Gringo2, Jan 21, 2010.

  1. Gringo2

    Gringo2 Flightless Bird

    I periodically copy my files from the C drive to a second internal hard dirve
    using the Windows Explorer window and simply right clicking the directory I
    want to copy and then pasting to the duplicate dircectory on hard drive 2.
    This time some of the files are telling me 'access denied....' I'm the sole
    user of this computer. Those problem files cannot be accessed from the C
    dirve either but a few I have tried can be accessed on the backup drive,
    e.g., an Adobe .pdf file.
    An when it does encounter a file that it can't access, Windows won't
    continue and stops the copying process for all the rest of the files.
    What is wrong?
    --
    Jerry
    emachine, T2798
     
  2. John John - MVP

    John John - MVP Flightless Bird

    Gringo2 wrote:
    > I periodically copy my files from the C drive to a second internal hard dirve
    > using the Windows Explorer window and simply right clicking the directory I
    > want to copy and then pasting to the duplicate dircectory on hard drive 2.
    > This time some of the files are telling me 'access denied....' I'm the sole
    > user of this computer. Those problem files cannot be accessed from the C
    > dirve either but a few I have tried can be accessed on the backup drive,
    > e.g., an Adobe .pdf file.
    > An when it does encounter a file that it can't access, Windows won't
    > continue and stops the copying process for all the rest of the files.
    > What is wrong?


    It most likely means that the file is being used by another process or
    that you do no have sufficient permissions to access the file. Which
    Windows XP version are you using, Home or Pro?

    John
     
  3. db

    db Flightless Bird

    are the files assessable in
    safe mode.

    --
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    >
    >


    "Gringo2" <Gringo2@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    news:8BE248D2-79C0-4BEB-A899-F84DEF1EAB23@microsoft.com...
    > I periodically copy my files from the C drive to a second internal hard
    > dirve
    > using the Windows Explorer window and simply right clicking the directory
    > I
    > want to copy and then pasting to the duplicate dircectory on hard drive 2.
    > This time some of the files are telling me 'access denied....' I'm the
    > sole
    > user of this computer. Those problem files cannot be accessed from the C
    > dirve either but a few I have tried can be accessed on the backup drive,
    > e.g., an Adobe .pdf file.
    > An when it does encounter a file that it can't access, Windows won't
    > continue and stops the copying process for all the rest of the files.
    > What is wrong?
    > --
    > Jerry
    > emachine, T2798
     
  4. Mark Adams

    Mark Adams Flightless Bird

    "Gringo2" wrote:

    > I periodically copy my files from the C drive to a second internal hard dirve
    > using the Windows Explorer window and simply right clicking the directory I
    > want to copy and then pasting to the duplicate dircectory on hard drive 2.
    > This time some of the files are telling me 'access denied....' I'm the sole
    > user of this computer. Those problem files cannot be accessed from the C
    > dirve either but a few I have tried can be accessed on the backup drive,
    > e.g., an Adobe .pdf file.
    > An when it does encounter a file that it can't access, Windows won't
    > continue and stops the copying process for all the rest of the files.
    > What is wrong?
    > --
    > Jerry
    > emachine, T2798


    How to take ownership of a file or a folder in Windows XP:

    http://support.microsoft.com/kb/308421
     
  5. Gringo2

    Gringo2 Flightless Bird

    Mark Adams, thank you. I went to that link and followed the instructions to
    take ownership, unchecked the Simple File Sharing and then went to the
    folder, properties, security and took ownership of it. It still will not
    allow me access. As I said earlier I am the Administrator and the only user
    of this computer. Also, on the previous backup to hard disk 2 some of the
    folders and files are accessible from it that are not accessible from the
    main drive, # 1. And I am using XP Pro. Seems strange to me what is
    happening on some of these files and folders.
    --
    Jerry
    emachine, T2798


    "Mark Adams" wrote:

    >
    > How to take ownership of a file or a folder in Windows XP:
    >
    > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/308421
     
  6. Patrick Keenan

    Patrick Keenan Flightless Bird

    "Gringo2" <Gringo2@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    news:8BE248D2-79C0-4BEB-A899-F84DEF1EAB23@microsoft.com...
    >I periodically copy my files from the C drive to a second internal hard
    >dirve
    > using the Windows Explorer window and simply right clicking the directory
    > I
    > want to copy and then pasting to the duplicate dircectory on hard drive 2.
    > This time some of the files are telling me 'access denied....' I'm the
    > sole
    > user of this computer. Those problem files cannot be accessed from the C
    > dirve either but a few I have tried can be accessed on the backup drive,
    > e.g., an Adobe .pdf file.
    > An when it does encounter a file that it can't access, Windows won't
    > continue and stops the copying process for all the rest of the files.
    > What is wrong?
    > --
    > Jerry
    > emachine, T2798


    It means that something has the files open and won't give them up. You
    might find that "something" turns out to be the Search Indexing Service, but
    you need to determine what the process is and stop it.

    The Windows copy and paste is not very good for this purpose, for the reason
    that you describe: when it runs into a problem, it just gives up.
    Consider other utilities, such as the older FileSync or RichCopy.

    HTH
    -pk
     
  7. Patrick Keenan

    Patrick Keenan Flightless Bird

    "Gringo2" <Gringo2@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    news:5CA002EB-271B-4E00-8B2C-831FEC124DB7@microsoft.com...
    > Mark Adams, thank you. I went to that link and followed the instructions
    > to
    > take ownership, unchecked the Simple File Sharing and then went to the
    > folder, properties, security and took ownership of it. It still will not
    > allow me access. As I said earlier I am the Administrator and the only
    > user
    > of this computer.


    I hope you're not saying that the only user account on the system is the
    Administrator account.

    > Also, on the previous backup to hard disk 2 some of the
    > folders and files are accessible from it that are not accessible from the
    > main drive, # 1.


    They are available on the backup, but not as the originals? The originals
    are perhaps being used by another process, like an indexer.

    > And I am using XP Pro. Seems strange to me what is
    > happening on some of these files and folders.


    Are those files being indexed?

    > --
    > Jerry
    > emachine, T2798
    >
    >
    > "Mark Adams" wrote:
    >
    >>
    >> How to take ownership of a file or a folder in Windows XP:
    >>
    >> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/308421
     
  8. Gringo2

    Gringo2 Flightless Bird

    I am using XP Pro.
    The files are definitely not being used by any thing, they are data files
    for Word, Excel and Adobe, etc.
    I am the only user and am the administrator and the one who made the files
    or downloaded them.
    I just rebooted in Safe Mode and still no go.
    Ideas? As I said some that were already copied to the second hard disk are
    openable on that disk but not on the original.
    --
    Jerry
    emachine, T2798
     
  9. Gringo2

    Gringo2 Flightless Bird

    Thanks I forgot about the indexing program and others that I'm not even aware
    of. I suppose those type programs are started in Safe Mode too?
    This procedure has let me backup like this in the past but I suppose it's
    like when something breaks and worked yesterday. It eventually happens.
    I'll try another method and thanks again.
    --
    Jerry
    emachine, T2798


    "Patrick Keenan" wrote:


    > It means that something has the files open and won't give them up. You
    > might find that "something" turns out to be the Search Indexing Service, but
    > you need to determine what the process is and stop it.
    >
    > The Windows copy and paste is not very good for this purpose, for the reason
    > that you describe: when it runs into a problem, it just gives up.
    > Consider other utilities, such as the older FileSync or RichCopy.
    >
    > HTH
    > -pk
    >
    > .
    >
     
  10. Gringo2

    Gringo2 Flightless Bird

    PK, I downloaded and used the RichCopy and it works much better, especially
    that it goes on to copy the other available files. It did one strange thing
    in that it ignored a subdirectory, e.g., I have Adobe files as a subdirectory
    under Files and then Taxes under Adobe. It did not copy the Taxes folder and
    it the backup disk it was completely empty. But Explorer allowed me to copy
    the whole directory as I wanted. The RichCopy noted that access was denied.
    Any more ideas or are the computer demons out to get me?
    --
    Jerry
    emachine, T2798


    "Patrick Keenan" wrote:


    > It means that something has the files open and won't give them up. You
    > might find that "something" turns out to be the Search Indexing Service, but
    > you need to determine what the process is and stop it.
    >
    > The Windows copy and paste is not very good for this purpose, for the reason
    > that you describe: when it runs into a problem, it just gives up.
    > Consider other utilities, such as the older FileSync or RichCopy.
    >
    > HTH
    > -pk
    >
    > .
    >
     
  11. db

    db Flightless Bird

    if you stated that the originals
    are no go's but their copies
    are,

    then it might be user privileges
    and perhaps the copies are
    read only.

    try right clicking on a file and
    access the properties,

    are they read only?

    -------------

    the other the scenario may be
    the anti virus program is not
    allowing any changes.

    but other than the above,
    I don't have any other ideas.

    my apologies.
    --
    db·´¯`·...¸><)))º>
    DatabaseBen, Retired Professional
    - Systems Analyst
    - Database Developer
    - Accountancy
    - Veteran of the Armed Forces
    - @Hotmail.com
    - nntp Postologist
    ~ "share the nirvana" - dbZen

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    >
    >


    "Gringo2" <Gringo2@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    news:D717DC41-D83B-40A7-BB7C-DCBC6643573C@microsoft.com...
    > I am using XP Pro.
    > The files are definitely not being used by any thing, they are data files
    > for Word, Excel and Adobe, etc.
    > I am the only user and am the administrator and the one who made the files
    > or downloaded them.
    > I just rebooted in Safe Mode and still no go.
    > Ideas? As I said some that were already copied to the second hard disk
    > are
    > openable on that disk but not on the original.
    > --
    > Jerry
    > emachine, T2798
    >
    >
    >
     
  12. Paul Randall

    Paul Randall Flightless Bird

    You might try creating a Windows boot CD, such as described at UBCD4WIN.com,
    and boot from it and run RoboCopy, a free download from Microsoft. I
    believe that at bootup of the CD, you will be a super user and be able to
    copy everything. And of course, nothing on the hard drive will be 'in use'.
    But this just gets your stuff copied and doesn't solve the problem of why
    things won't copy normally.

    -Paul Randall

    "Gringo2" <Gringo2@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    news:F7295E1F-AFD5-4234-B5DE-EBD16FF3EF7F@microsoft.com...
    > PK, I downloaded and used the RichCopy and it works much better,
    > especially
    > that it goes on to copy the other available files. It did one strange
    > thing
    > in that it ignored a subdirectory, e.g., I have Adobe files as a
    > subdirectory
    > under Files and then Taxes under Adobe. It did not copy the Taxes folder
    > and
    > it the backup disk it was completely empty. But Explorer allowed me to
    > copy
    > the whole directory as I wanted. The RichCopy noted that access was
    > denied.
    > Any more ideas or are the computer demons out to get me?
    > --
    > Jerry
    > emachine, T2798
    >
    >
    > "Patrick Keenan" wrote:
    >
    >
    >> It means that something has the files open and won't give them up. You
    >> might find that "something" turns out to be the Search Indexing Service,
    >> but
    >> you need to determine what the process is and stop it.
    >>
    >> The Windows copy and paste is not very good for this purpose, for the
    >> reason
    >> that you describe: when it runs into a problem, it just gives up.
    >> Consider other utilities, such as the older FileSync or RichCopy.
    >>
    >> HTH
    >> -pk
    >>
    >> .
    >>
     
  13. Gringo2

    Gringo2 Flightless Bird

    Well, I guess there's no solution to my problem. It's understandable that
    the certain files won't copy. The primary question is that they won't even
    open from the original location on C. How did they get protected or whatever
    they are on the C drive when they were once good?
    --
    Jerry
    emachine, T2798
     

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