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Connecting Win2K SP4 to Win 7 limited ??

Discussion in 'Windows 7' started by JD, Aug 21, 2010.

  1. JD

    JD Flightless Bird

    Has anyone succeeded in getting these two OSs to
    talk with one another?

    If so, please provide the recipe :)

    TIA
     
  2. VanguardLH

    VanguardLH Flightless Bird

    JD wrote:

    > Has anyone succeeded in getting these two OSs to talk with one
    > another?


    Guess that depends on what you mean by "connected". Using WHAT
    protocol? WHAT services? Just what are you attempting to do between
    the two hosts?
     
  3. JD

    JD Flightless Bird

    VanguardLH wrote:
    > JD wrote:
    >
    >> Has anyone succeeded in getting these two OSs to talk with one
    >> another?

    >
    > Guess that depends on what you mean by "connected".


    Thx VLH 4 your interest.

    Want them to exchange info ;-)

    > Using WHAT protocol?


    tcp/ip or netbios - whichevr is easiest

    > WHAT services?


    just data xfer - files and pics

    > Just what are you attempting to do between the two hosts?


    xfer personal info back and forth between them.

    TIA and I hope you have a great weekend.
     
  4. Peter Foldes

    Peter Foldes Flightless Bird

    You cannot . It is not the same kernel. W2K is not kernel based as W7 is

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    Peter

    Please Reply to Newsgroup for the benefit of others
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    "JD" <JD@No-where.con> wrote in message news:8dbj14FokeU1@mid.individual.net...
    > Has anyone succeeded in getting these two OSs to
    > talk with one another?
    >
    > If so, please provide the recipe :)
    >
    > TIA
     
  5. Seth

    Seth Flightless Bird

    "Peter Foldes" <okf22@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    news:i4q8ar$4ju$1@speranza.aioe.org...
    > You cannot . It is not the same kernel. W2K is not kernel based as W7 is


    Did'ja read the question?

    > "JD" <JD@No-where.con> wrote in message
    > news:8dbj14FokeU1@mid.individual.net...
    >> Has anyone succeeded in getting these two OSs to talk with one another?
    >>
    >> If so, please provide the recipe :)
    >>
    >> TIA
     
  6. Seth

    Seth Flightless Bird

    "JD" <JD@No-where.con> wrote in message
    news:8dbm7sF7vsU1@mid.individual.net...
    > VanguardLH wrote:
    >> JD wrote:
    >>
    >>> Has anyone succeeded in getting these two OSs to talk with one
    >>> another?

    >>
    >> Guess that depends on what you mean by "connected".

    >
    > Thx VLH 4 your interest.
    >
    > Want them to exchange info ;-)
    >
    >> Using WHAT protocol?

    >
    > tcp/ip or netbios - whichevr is easiest
    >
    >> WHAT services?

    >
    > just data xfer - files and pics
    >
    >> Just what are you attempting to do between the two hosts?

    >
    > xfer personal info back and forth between them.
    >
    > TIA and I hope you have a great weekend.


    Domain connected? Workgroup?

    Everything I do is in a domain and they have no problem connecting to each
    other for file and print sharing.
     
  7. relic

    relic Flightless Bird

    "JD" <JD@No-where.con> wrote in message
    news:8dbj14FokeU1@mid.individual.net...
    > Has anyone succeeded in getting these two OSs to talk with one another?
    >
    > If so, please provide the recipe :)
    >
    > TIA


    You didn't take Windows 7's "Homegroup" default, did you? It won't work with
    anything except other Window 7 machines.
     
  8. VanguardLH

    VanguardLH Flightless Bird

    JD wrote:

    > VanguardLH wrote:
    >> JD wrote:
    >>
    >>> Has anyone succeeded in getting these two OSs to talk with one
    >>> another?

    >>
    >> Guess that depends on what you mean by "connected".

    >
    > Thx VLH 4 your interest.
    >
    > Want them to exchange info ;-)
    >
    >> Using WHAT protocol?

    >
    > tcp/ip or netbios - whichevr is easiest
    >
    >> WHAT services?

    >
    > just data xfer - files and pics
    >
    >> Just what are you attempting to do between the two hosts?

    >
    > xfer personal info back and forth between them.
    >
    > TIA and I hope you have a great weekend.


    Don't use Windows 7's homegroup. Change it to use a workgroup. Use the
    SAME workgroup name for all hosts you want to share files between.
    Homegroups can only be used between Windows 7 hosts.

    http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windows-7/share-files-and-printers-between-windows-7-and-xp/
     
  9. JD

    JD Flightless Bird

    Seth wrote:
    >
    > "JD" <JD@No-where.con> wrote in message
    > news:8dbm7sF7vsU1@mid.individual.net...
    >> VanguardLH wrote:
    >>> JD wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> Has anyone succeeded in getting these two OSs to talk with one
    >>>> another?
    >>>
    >>> Guess that depends on what you mean by "connected".


    Ability to xfer files

    >>
    >> Thx VLH 4 your interest.
    >>
    >> Want them to exchange info ;-)
    >>
    >>> Using WHAT protocol?

    >>
    >> tcp/ip or netbios - whichevr is easiest
    >>
    >>> WHAT services?

    >>
    >> just data xfer - files and pics
    >>
    >>> Just what are you attempting to do between the two hosts?

    >>
    >> xfer personal info back and forth between them.
    >>
    >> TIA and I hope you have a great weekend.

    >
    > Domain connected? Workgroup?


    Workgroup

    > Everything I do is in a domain and they have no problem connecting to
    > each other for file and print sharing.


    Apologies for the discrepancy
     
  10. JD

    JD Flightless Bird

    VanguardLH wrote:
    > JD wrote:
    >
    >> VanguardLH wrote:
    >>> JD wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> Has anyone succeeded in getting these two OSs to talk with one
    >>>> another?
    >>> Guess that depends on what you mean by "connected".

    >> Thx VLH 4 your interest.
    >>
    >> Want them to exchange info ;-)
    >>
    >>> Using WHAT protocol?

    >> tcp/ip or netbios - whichevr is easiest
    >>
    >>> WHAT services?

    >> just data xfer - files and pics
    >>
    >>> Just what are you attempting to do between the two hosts?

    >> xfer personal info back and forth between them.
    >>
    >> TIA and I hope you have a great weekend.

    >
    > Don't use Windows 7's homegroup. Change it to use a workgroup. Use the
    > SAME workgroup name for all hosts you want to share files between.
    > Homegroups can only be used between Windows 7 hosts.
    >
    > http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windows-7/share-files-and-printers-between-windows-7-and-xp/


    I know about homegroups and not trying to make one.

    Thx for info.
     
  11. JD

    JD Flightless Bird

    Peter Foldes wrote:
    > You cannot . It is not the same kernel. W2K is not kernel based as W7 is


    I know that Win 7 works with Win2K. I am doing it
    already, whenever I kick Kerio's
    ass off the Win2K computer. Anyone know how to
    blow a hole in an old Kerio or recommend a good
    cheap firewall that is easy to configure or,
    better still, self configuring?

    TIA
     
  12. JD

    JD Flightless Bird

    Seth wrote:
    >
    > "Peter Foldes" <okf22@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    > news:i4q8ar$4ju$1@speranza.aioe.org...
    >> You cannot . It is not the same kernel. W2K is not kernel based as W7 is

    >
    > Did'ja read the question?


    You're on your toes today Seth. Well done :)

    >
    >> "JD" <JD@No-where.con> wrote in message
    >> news:8dbj14FokeU1@mid.individual.net...
    >>> Has anyone succeeded in getting these two OSs to talk with one another?
    >>>
    >>> If so, please provide the recipe :)
    >>>
    >>> TIA

    >
    >
    >
     
  13. JD

    JD Flightless Bird

    relic wrote:
    >
    > "JD" <JD@No-where.con> wrote in message
    > news:8dbj14FokeU1@mid.individual.net...
    >> Has anyone succeeded in getting these two OSs to talk with one another?
    >>
    >> If so, please provide the recipe :)
    >>
    >> TIA

    >
    > You didn't take Windows 7's "Homegroup" default, did you? It won't work
    > with anything except other Window 7 machines.


    No Relic I didn't try Homegroup. I saw enough
    warnings to keep me clear of it.
    My present problem has reduced to a firewall.

    I was delayed a lot by not understanding shares -
    I thought each computer had to set up its own
    share. What a clown I was!

    Well then, how about making a hole in Kerio or
    getting a suitable replacement?

    TIA and have a great week :)
     
  14. JD

    JD Flightless Bird

    relic wrote:
    >
    > "JD" <JD@No-where.con> wrote in message
    > news:8dbj14FokeU1@mid.individual.net...
    >> Has anyone succeeded in getting these two OSs to talk with one another?
    >>
    >> If so, please provide the recipe :)
    >>
    >> TIA

    >
    > You didn't take Windows 7's "Homegroup" default, did you? It won't work
    > with anything except other Window 7 machines.


    I just did some extra work on Kerio.

    I close Kerio. Next I connect the two computers
    and they work very well.
    Next I open the Kerio Admin. Program. It pops open
    a small window with:

    Kerio Personal Firewall (as the name of the window)
    A radio button with a choice of:
    Local Host or Remote Computer (Hostname or IP
    address) with a slot for the hostname or the address.
    Because the firewall is on the Win2K - the local
    host - it has the firewall and I click
    local host.
    The next line is
    Authorize using:
    Connect to one of (2 radio button choices): Admin
    Configuration or Status Window.

    Since I am the boss here, I click Admin
    configuration (for better or worse :) )
    and then enter the password that I use to logon.
    Kerio goes to sleep.

    Meantime I can drag and drop files to my heart's
    content with the firewall down and I
    have to reboot to get it back up.
     
  15. Carroll Robbins

    Carroll Robbins Flightless Bird

    JD <JD@No-where.con> wrote on Sun, 22 Aug 2010 19:22:19 -0700 in
    <8de49mFskvU1@mid.individual.net>

    >Since I am the boss here, I click Admin
    >configuration (for better or worse :) )
    >and then enter the password that I use to logon.
    >Kerio goes to sleep.


    I use Kerio 2.1.5 on both WinNT4 and WinXP with no problems and am very
    satisfied with it.

    Did you enter your Windows logon password or the password for Kerio? There
    can be separate passwords for Administration and the Statistics views.

    Under Administration, press the Advanced button to open the Firewall
    Configuration window. Select the Microsoft Networking tab. Tick "For
    Microsoft Networking Use These Rules Instead of Filter Rules". Tick "Allow
    Microsoft Network Name Resolution". Tick "Allow Other Users to Access My
    Shared Folders/Printers". Optionally tick any of the other boxes. If you
    tick a "trusted" box then you need to setup the Trusted Address Group.
    --
    Carroll B. Robbins, Jr.
     
  16. relic

    relic Flightless Bird

    "JD" <JD@No-where.con> wrote in message
    news:8de49mFskvU1@mid.individual.net...
    > relic wrote:
    >>
    >> "JD" <JD@No-where.con> wrote in message
    >> news:8dbj14FokeU1@mid.individual.net...
    >>> Has anyone succeeded in getting these two OSs to talk with one another?
    >>>
    >>> If so, please provide the recipe :)
    >>>
    >>> TIA

    >>
    >> You didn't take Windows 7's "Homegroup" default, did you? It won't work
    >> with anything except other Window 7 machines.

    >
    > I just did some extra work on Kerio.
    >
    > I close Kerio. Next I connect the two computers and they work very well.
    > Next I open the Kerio Admin. Program. It pops open a small window with:
    >
    > Kerio Personal Firewall (as the name of the window)
    > A radio button with a choice of:
    > Local Host or Remote Computer (Hostname or IP address) with a slot for
    > the hostname or the address.
    > Because the firewall is on the Win2K - the local host - it has the
    > firewall and I click
    > local host.
    > The next line is
    > Authorize using:
    > Connect to one of (2 radio button choices): Admin Configuration or Status
    > Window.
    >
    > Since I am the boss here, I click Admin configuration (for better or worse
    > :) )
    > and then enter the password that I use to logon. Kerio goes to sleep.
    >
    > Meantime I can drag and drop files to my heart's content with the firewall
    > down and I
    > have to reboot to get it back up.
    >
    >


    Try Comodo or Agnitum firewalls (free). I've heard nothing bad about either
    of them.
    http://personalfirewall.comodo.com/
    http://free.agnitum.com/
     
  17. JD

    JD Flightless Bird

    Carroll Robbins wrote:
    > JD <JD@No-where.con> wrote on Sun, 22 Aug 2010 19:22:19 -0700 in
    > <8de49mFskvU1@mid.individual.net>
    >
    >> Since I am the boss here, I click Admin
    >> configuration (for better or worse :) )
    >> and then enter the password that I use to logon.
    >> Kerio goes to sleep.

    >
    > I use Kerio 2.1.5 on both WinNT4 and WinXP with no problems and am very
    > satisfied with it.
    >
    > Did you enter your Windows logon password or the password for Kerio? There
    > can be separate passwords for Administration and the Statistics views.
    >
    > Under Administration, press the Advanced button to open the Firewall
    > Configuration window. Select the Microsoft Networking tab. Tick "For
    > Microsoft Networking Use These Rules Instead of Filter Rules". Tick "Allow
    > Microsoft Network Name Resolution". Tick "Allow Other Users to Access My
    > Shared Folders/Printers". Optionally tick any of the other boxes. If you
    > tick a "trusted" box then you need to setup the Trusted Address Group.


    Thanks C.R. That's the bit I missed. I'm on NetBook at present - will
    try Kerio on Win2K again soon. I am in need of a bit of success :)
     
  18. JD

    JD Flightless Bird

    relic wrote:
    >
    > "JD" <JD@No-where.con> wrote in message
    > news:8de49mFskvU1@mid.individual.net...
    >> relic wrote:
    >>>
    >>> "JD" <JD@No-where.con> wrote in message
    >>> news:8dbj14FokeU1@mid.individual.net...
    >>>> Has anyone succeeded in getting these two OSs to talk with one another?
    >>>>
    >>>> If so, please provide the recipe :)
    >>>>
    >>>> TIA
    >>>
    >>> You didn't take Windows 7's "Homegroup" default, did you? It won't
    >>> work with anything except other Window 7 machines.


    I knew that - it's well advertized in the NetBook.

    >> I just did some extra work on Kerio.
    >>
    >> I close Kerio. Next I connect the two computers and they work very well.
    >> Next I open the Kerio Admin. Program. It pops open a small window with:
    >>
    >> Kerio Personal Firewall (as the name of the window)
    >> A radio button with a choice of:
    >> Local Host or Remote Computer (Hostname or IP address) with a slot
    >> for the hostname or the address.
    >> Because the firewall is on the Win2K - the local host - it has the
    >> firewall and I click
    >> local host.
    >> The next line is
    >> Authorize using:
    >> Connect to one of (2 radio button choices): Admin Configuration or
    >> Status Window.
    >>
    >> Since I am the boss here, I click Admin configuration (for better or
    >> worse :) )
    >> and then enter the password that I use to logon. Kerio goes to sleep.
    >>
    >> Meantime I can drag and drop files to my heart's content with the
    >> firewall down and I
    >> have to reboot to get it back up.
    >>
    >>

    >
    > Try Comodo or Agnitum firewalls (free). I've heard nothing bad about
    > either of them.
    > http://personalfirewall.comodo.com/
    > http://free.agnitum.com/


    Thank you C.R. and Relic. I had a good day today - see
    alt.comp.hardware. I am now at the point where that Kerio is my major
    problem. Will look at it in the next few days. Thank you both for your help.
     
  19. JD

    JD Flightless Bird

    Carroll Robbins wrote:
    > JD <JD@No-where.con> wrote on Sun, 22 Aug 2010 19:22:19 -0700 in
    > <8de49mFskvU1@mid.individual.net>
    >
    >> Since I am the boss here, I click Admin
    >> configuration (for better or worse :) )
    >> and then enter the password that I use to logon.
    >> Kerio goes to sleep.

    >
    > I use Kerio 2.1.5 on both WinNT4 and WinXP with no problems and am very
    > satisfied with it.
    >
    > Did you enter your Windows logon password or the password for Kerio? There
    > can be separate passwords for Administration and the Statistics views.
    >
    > Under Administration, press the Advanced button to open the Firewall
    > Configuration window. Select the Microsoft Networking tab. Tick "For
    > Microsoft Networking Use These Rules Instead of Filter Rules". Tick "Allow
    > Microsoft Network Name Resolution". Tick "Allow Other Users to Access My
    > Shared Folders/Printers". Optionally tick any of the other boxes. If you
    > tick a "trusted" box then you need to setup the Trusted Address Group.



    OK Carroll, YOU did it. :)

    All I had to do was to unclick those two arrows at
    the Trusted Address Group and
    now all is well. Would you believe that Samsung
    knows nothing about things like this?

    Many thanks for your help.
     

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