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Configuring Master Browser in peer to peer network

J

Jill

Flightless Bird
I have a five computer peer to peer network. I am constantly getting Master
Browser errors in the logs of all of the computers (MRxSmb Event ID: 8003,
BROWSER Event ID: 8021)

I realize these errors are not critical, but it bugs me that things are not
configured 100%. Also, the errors grab my attention in the log and distract
me form possibly seeing more serious errors.

I understand the concept of MB and how the election works in regard to OS
etc (all computers are XP SP3)

I have tried setting:
HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services \Browser\Parameters

'IsDomainMaster' to TRUE on one machine and FALSE on others
'MaintainServerList' to TRUE on one machine AUTO on others

What is the proper way to configure the MB in this network (there is no real
'server' or machine that is on all the time to maintain this list)?


Thanks guys
 
R

Russ SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP]

Flightless Bird
Does this Microsoft Article Help
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/135404

Russ

--
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MCP, MCPS, MCNPS, SBSC
Microsoft Certified Small Business Specialist
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"Jill" <N@NE.nothing> wrote in message
news:#5GfYhxsKHA.6088@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> I have a five computer peer to peer network. I am constantly getting
> Master Browser errors in the logs of all of the computers (MRxSmb Event
> ID: 8003, BROWSER Event ID: 8021)
>
> I realize these errors are not critical, but it bugs me that things are
> not configured 100%. Also, the errors grab my attention in the log and
> distract me form possibly seeing more serious errors.
>
> I understand the concept of MB and how the election works in regard to OS
> etc (all computers are XP SP3)
>
> I have tried setting:
> HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services \Browser\Parameters
>
> 'IsDomainMaster' to TRUE on one machine and FALSE on others
> 'MaintainServerList' to TRUE on one machine AUTO on others
>
> What is the proper way to configure the MB in this network (there is no
> real 'server' or machine that is on all the time to maintain this list)?
>
>
> Thanks guys
>
 
J

Jill

Flightless Bird
Hi. Thank you for your post.

This article talks about the registry settings I think I tried.
Maybe I am not configuring them correctly?
There is also a section talking about LSA. My computers are set to 0. Should
I play with these?


"Russ SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP]" <russ@REMOVETHIS.sbits.biz> wrote in message
news:uO%23IJnxsKHA.5976@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Does this Microsoft Article Help
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/135404
>
> Russ
>
> --
> Russell Grover - SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP]
> MCP, MCPS, MCNPS, SBSC
> Microsoft Certified Small Business Specialist
> SBS2003 SBS2008 Support - www.SBITS.Biz
> Question or Second Opinion - www.PersonalITConsultant.com
> Free Trial Microsoft Online Services - www.Microsoft-Online-Services.com
>
>
> "Jill" <N@NE.nothing> wrote in message
> news:#5GfYhxsKHA.6088@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> I have a five computer peer to peer network. I am constantly getting
>> Master Browser errors in the logs of all of the computers (MRxSmb Event
>> ID: 8003, BROWSER Event ID: 8021)
>>
>> I realize these errors are not critical, but it bugs me that things are
>> not configured 100%. Also, the errors grab my attention in the log and
>> distract me form possibly seeing more serious errors.
>>
>> I understand the concept of MB and how the election works in regard to OS
>> etc (all computers are XP SP3)
>>
>> I have tried setting:
>> HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services \Browser\Parameters
>>
>> 'IsDomainMaster' to TRUE on one machine and FALSE on others
>> 'MaintainServerList' to TRUE on one machine AUTO on others
>>
>> What is the proper way to configure the MB in this network (there is no
>> real 'server' or machine that is on all the time to maintain this list)?
>>
>>
>> Thanks guys
>>
 
2

20100221

Flightless Bird
Jill,

Yes you are right. The errors are not that critical and I wouldn't worry
about them. These errors are also evident when somebody connects to a
domain using their own laptop and expects to receive IP address dynamically.

I wouldn't worry about these errors.

hth



"Jill" <N@NE.nothing> wrote in message
news:%235GfYhxsKHA.6088@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>I have a five computer peer to peer network. I am constantly getting Master
>Browser errors in the logs of all of the computers (MRxSmb Event ID: 8003,
>BROWSER Event ID: 8021)
>
> I realize these errors are not critical, but it bugs me that things are
> not configured 100%. Also, the errors grab my attention in the log and
> distract me form possibly seeing more serious errors.
>
> I understand the concept of MB and how the election works in regard to OS
> etc (all computers are XP SP3)
>
> I have tried setting:
> HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services \Browser\Parameters
>
> 'IsDomainMaster' to TRUE on one machine and FALSE on others
> 'MaintainServerList' to TRUE on one machine AUTO on others
>
> What is the proper way to configure the MB in this network (there is no
> real 'server' or machine that is on all the time to maintain this list)?
>
>
> Thanks guys
>
 
J

Jill

Flightless Bird
What I am wondering is if there is a better way to configure this though


"20100221" <20100221@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:%23GU4zGysKHA.4704@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Jill,
>
> Yes you are right. The errors are not that critical and I wouldn't worry
> about them. These errors are also evident when somebody connects to a
> domain using their own laptop and expects to receive IP address
> dynamically.
>
> I wouldn't worry about these errors.
>
> hth
>
>
>
> "Jill" <N@NE.nothing> wrote in message
> news:%235GfYhxsKHA.6088@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>I have a five computer peer to peer network. I am constantly getting
>>Master Browser errors in the logs of all of the computers (MRxSmb Event
>>ID: 8003, BROWSER Event ID: 8021)
>>
>> I realize these errors are not critical, but it bugs me that things are
>> not configured 100%. Also, the errors grab my attention in the log and
>> distract me form possibly seeing more serious errors.
>>
>> I understand the concept of MB and how the election works in regard to OS
>> etc (all computers are XP SP3)
>>
>> I have tried setting:
>> HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services \Browser\Parameters
>>
>> 'IsDomainMaster' to TRUE on one machine and FALSE on others
>> 'MaintainServerList' to TRUE on one machine AUTO on others
>>
>> What is the proper way to configure the MB in this network (there is no
>> real 'server' or machine that is on all the time to maintain this list)?
>>
>>
>> Thanks guys
>>
>
>
 
2

20100221

Flightless Bird
I don't think so because an alien system won't be recognized by the
domain (I appreciate you are using P2P) so by default it will take
control of that system by dynamically assigning an IP address. That is
my understanding but I may be wrong.

hth

Jill wrote:
>
> What I am wondering is if there is a better way to configure this though
 
R

Russ SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP]

Flightless Bird
I agree it's not much to worry about unless you do browsing and nothing
shows up.
(And you need browsing)

I know I wouldn't lose any sleep over this... ;)

I've seen an issue like this on a PC that the only thing that fixed it
is flattening and starting over.
And that's kind of drastic for this IMO

Russ


--
Russell Grover - SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP]
MCP, MCPS, MCNPS, SBSC
Microsoft Certified Small Business Specialist
SBS2003 SBS2008 Support - www.SBITS.Biz
Question or Second Opinion - www.PersonalITConsultant.com
Free Trial Microsoft Online Services - www.Microsoft-Online-Services.com


"20100221" <20100221@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:4B819E75.C8F0FE66@discussions.microsoft.com...
> I don't think so because an alien system won't be recognized by the
> domain (I appreciate you are using P2P) so by default it will take
> control of that system by dynamically assigning an IP address. That is
> my understanding but I may be wrong.
>
> hth
>
> Jill wrote:
>>
>> What I am wondering is if there is a better way to configure this though
 
J

John John - MVP

Flightless Bird
It has nothing to do with IP addressing, it concerns only the NetBios
browse list.

John

20100221 wrote:
> I don't think so because an alien system won't be recognized by the
> domain (I appreciate you are using P2P) so by default it will take
> control of that system by dynamically assigning an IP address. That is
> my understanding but I may be wrong.
>
> hth
>
> Jill wrote:
>> What I am wondering is if there is a better way to configure this though
 
J

John John - MVP

Flightless Bird
Are all the machines on the same subnet?

John

Jill wrote:
> I have a five computer peer to peer network. I am constantly getting Master
> Browser errors in the logs of all of the computers (MRxSmb Event ID: 8003,
> BROWSER Event ID: 8021)
>
> I realize these errors are not critical, but it bugs me that things are not
> configured 100%. Also, the errors grab my attention in the log and distract
> me form possibly seeing more serious errors.
>
> I understand the concept of MB and how the election works in regard to OS
> etc (all computers are XP SP3)
>
> I have tried setting:
> HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services \Browser\Parameters
>
> 'IsDomainMaster' to TRUE on one machine and FALSE on others
> 'MaintainServerList' to TRUE on one machine AUTO on others
>
> What is the proper way to configure the MB in this network (there is no real
> 'server' or machine that is on all the time to maintain this list)?
>
>
> Thanks guys
>
>
 
J

Jill

Flightless Bird
Yes, same subnet. All static IPs.

"John John - MVP" <audetweld@nbnot.nb.ca> wrote in message
news:-O15rNV1sKHA.5036@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Are all the machines on the same subnet?
>
> John
>
> Jill wrote:
>> I have a five computer peer to peer network. I am constantly getting
>> Master Browser errors in the logs of all of the computers (MRxSmb Event
>> ID: 8003, BROWSER Event ID: 8021)
>>
>> I realize these errors are not critical, but it bugs me that things are
>> not configured 100%. Also, the errors grab my attention in the log and
>> distract me form possibly seeing more serious errors.
>>
>> I understand the concept of MB and how the election works in regard to OS
>> etc (all computers are XP SP3)
>>
>> I have tried setting:
>> HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services \Browser\Parameters
>>
>> 'IsDomainMaster' to TRUE on one machine and FALSE on others
>> 'MaintainServerList' to TRUE on one machine AUTO on others
>>
>> What is the proper way to configure the MB in this network (there is no
>> real 'server' or machine that is on all the time to maintain this list)?
>>
>>
>> Thanks guys
 
R

Russ SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP]

Flightless Bird
Static?
Why static?
Russ

--
Russell Grover - SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP]
MCP, MCPS, MCNPS, SBSC
Microsoft Certified Small Business Specialist
SBS2003 SBS2008 Support - www.SBITS.Biz
Question or Second Opinion - www.PersonalITConsultant.com
Free Trial Microsoft Online Services - www.Microsoft-Online-Services.com


"Jill" <N@NE.nothing> wrote in message
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> Yes, same subnet. All static IPs.
>
> "John John - MVP" <audetweld@nbnot.nb.ca> wrote in message
> news:-O15rNV1sKHA.5036@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> Are all the machines on the same subnet?
>>
>> John
>>
>> Jill wrote:
>>> I have a five computer peer to peer network. I am constantly getting
>>> Master Browser errors in the logs of all of the computers (MRxSmb Event
>>> ID: 8003, BROWSER Event ID: 8021)
>>>
>>> I realize these errors are not critical, but it bugs me that things are
>>> not configured 100%. Also, the errors grab my attention in the log and
>>> distract me form possibly seeing more serious errors.
>>>
>>> I understand the concept of MB and how the election works in regard to
>>> OS etc (all computers are XP SP3)
>>>
>>> I have tried setting:
>>> HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services \Browser\Parameters
>>>
>>> 'IsDomainMaster' to TRUE on one machine and FALSE on others
>>> 'MaintainServerList' to TRUE on one machine AUTO on others
>>>
>>> What is the proper way to configure the MB in this network (there is no
>>> real 'server' or machine that is on all the time to maintain this list)?
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks guys
>
>
 
J

Jill

Flightless Bird
remote desktop, port forwarding

"Russ SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP]" <russ@REMOVETHIS.sbits.biz> wrote in message
news:eu2$T01sKHA.4268@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Static?
> Why static?
> Russ
>
> --
> Russell Grover - SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP]
> MCP, MCPS, MCNPS, SBSC
> Microsoft Certified Small Business Specialist
> SBS2003 SBS2008 Support - www.SBITS.Biz
> Question or Second Opinion - www.PersonalITConsultant.com
> Free Trial Microsoft Online Services - www.Microsoft-Online-Services.com
>
>
> "Jill" <N@NE.nothing> wrote in message
> news:eMRJaj1sKHA.3904@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> Yes, same subnet. All static IPs.
>>
>> "John John - MVP" <audetweld@nbnot.nb.ca> wrote in message
>> news:-O15rNV1sKHA.5036@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>> Are all the machines on the same subnet?
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>>> Jill wrote:
>>>> I have a five computer peer to peer network. I am constantly getting
>>>> Master Browser errors in the logs of all of the computers (MRxSmb Event
>>>> ID: 8003, BROWSER Event ID: 8021)
>>>>
>>>> I realize these errors are not critical, but it bugs me that things are
>>>> not configured 100%. Also, the errors grab my attention in the log and
>>>> distract me form possibly seeing more serious errors.
>>>>
>>>> I understand the concept of MB and how the election works in regard to
>>>> OS etc (all computers are XP SP3)
>>>>
>>>> I have tried setting:
>>>> HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services \Browser\Parameters
>>>>
>>>> 'IsDomainMaster' to TRUE on one machine and FALSE on others
>>>> 'MaintainServerList' to TRUE on one machine AUTO on others
>>>>
>>>> What is the proper way to configure the MB in this network (there is no
>>>> real 'server' or machine that is on all the time to maintain this
>>>> list)?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks guys
>>
>>
 
R

Russ SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP]

Flightless Bird
oh ok
Most people use Logmein free for this..

Since this sounds like a Business. (Remoting in.)
Have you thought about Microsoft Home Server?
It even has a web based Remote Login...
(No Ports to remember and they can access from any Browser.)
If you'd like Image based backups on PC's?
For under 1K it's cheap insurance if you are a business.

Backups are the least thing remembered and with WHS
The backups are automatic...
Russ
--
Russell Grover - SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP]
MCP, MCPS, MCNPS, SBSC
Microsoft Certified Small Business Specialist
SBS2003 SBS2008 Support - www.SBITS.Biz
Question or Second Opinion - www.PersonalITConsultant.com
Free Trial Microsoft Online Services - www.Microsoft-Online-Services.com


"Jill" <N@NE.nothing> wrote in message
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> remote desktop, port forwarding
>
> "Russ SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP]" <russ@REMOVETHIS.sbits.biz> wrote in message
> news:eu2$T01sKHA.4268@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> Static?
>> Why static?
>> Russ
>>
>> --
>> Russell Grover - SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP]
>> MCP, MCPS, MCNPS, SBSC
>> Microsoft Certified Small Business Specialist
>> SBS2003 SBS2008 Support - www.SBITS.Biz
>> Question or Second Opinion - www.PersonalITConsultant.com
>> Free Trial Microsoft Online Services - www.Microsoft-Online-Services.com
>>
>>
>> "Jill" <N@NE.nothing> wrote in message
>> news:eMRJaj1sKHA.3904@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>> Yes, same subnet. All static IPs.
>>>
>>> "John John - MVP" <audetweld@nbnot.nb.ca> wrote in message
>>> news:-O15rNV1sKHA.5036@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>> Are all the machines on the same subnet?
>>>>
>>>> John
>>>>
>>>> Jill wrote:
>>>>> I have a five computer peer to peer network. I am constantly getting
>>>>> Master Browser errors in the logs of all of the computers (MRxSmb
>>>>> Event ID: 8003, BROWSER Event ID: 8021)
>>>>>
>>>>> I realize these errors are not critical, but it bugs me that things
>>>>> are not configured 100%. Also, the errors grab my attention in the log
>>>>> and distract me form possibly seeing more serious errors.
>>>>>
>>>>> I understand the concept of MB and how the election works in regard to
>>>>> OS etc (all computers are XP SP3)
>>>>>
>>>>> I have tried setting:
>>>>> HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services \Browser\Parameters
>>>>>
>>>>> 'IsDomainMaster' to TRUE on one machine and FALSE on others
>>>>> 'MaintainServerList' to TRUE on one machine AUTO on others
>>>>>
>>>>> What is the proper way to configure the MB in this network (there is
>>>>> no real 'server' or machine that is on all the time to maintain this
>>>>> list)?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks guys
>>>
>>>
>
>
 
S

Shenan Stanley

Flightless Bird
Russ SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP] wrote:
> oh ok
> Most people use Logmein free for this.

"Most"?

Maybe in your circle - but I know more that use TeamViewer in my circle.

I know almost as many that use Remote Desktop and Dynamic DNS.

I know some that have setup vWorkspace, but that is geting into the
'business' side of the table..

;-)

--
Shenan Stanley
MS-MVP
--
How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
 
R

Russ SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP]

Flightless Bird
True There are many alternatives
and you are right I should have said something like Logmein.
I personally don't like to put PC's in ANY Environment in a Static IP
configuration

Tools like LogmeIn (Free) allows someone to use a simple web interface
and doesn't require port redirects
Changing the listening ports on PC's
Remembering IP's etc.

I prefer the KISS method of a Business enviroment.

I always try to give clients the options that require the LEAST
amount of administration, since I charge by the hour...

Just creating complex solutions just means more wasted time
and as we know, time=money...

yes it's cool but a good ROI?
With Logmein (Free) or other options if your router dies
You slap a new one in and you are up in 2mins.
With redirecting Ports you have a bit more time involved.

This is also why I suggest Microsoft Home Server
a Simple Solution, for Remote access to desktops
and a VERY Simple solution for Image Backups for PC's

If a Hard drive dies on a Workstation in less than 1hr you can be backup and
running.
Simple!
:)
Russ

--
Russell Grover - SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP]
MCP, MCPS, MCNPS, SBSC
Microsoft Certified Small Business Specialist
SBS2003 SBS2008 Support - www.SBITS.Biz
Question or Second Opinion - www.PersonalITConsultant.com
Free Trial Microsoft Online Services - www.Microsoft-Online-Services.com


"Shenan Stanley" <newshelper@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:um0zLs2sKHA.5976@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Russ SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP] wrote:
>> oh ok
>> Most people use Logmein free for this.
>
> "Most"?
>
> Maybe in your circle - but I know more that use TeamViewer in my circle.
>
> I know almost as many that use Remote Desktop and Dynamic DNS.
>
> I know some that have setup vWorkspace, but that is geting into the
> 'business' side of the table..
>
> ;-)
>
> --
> Shenan Stanley
> MS-MVP
> --
> How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>
 
J

John John - MVP

Flightless Bird
You say that you are "constantly getting Master Browser errors...".
What does this mean? Is it happening once every day when machines are
booted or is it happening many, many times during the workday, like
every 12 minutes or so?

Can you copy and paste the complete contents of the two errors and post
it with your nest reply? To copy the event click on the clipboard icon
below the Up/Down arrows at the upper right.

John

Jill wrote:
> Yes, same subnet. All static IPs.
>
> "John John - MVP" <audetweld@nbnot.nb.ca> wrote in message
> news:-O15rNV1sKHA.5036@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> Are all the machines on the same subnet?
>>
>> John
>>
>> Jill wrote:
>>> I have a five computer peer to peer network. I am constantly getting
>>> Master Browser errors in the logs of all of the computers (MRxSmb Event
>>> ID: 8003, BROWSER Event ID: 8021)
>>>
>>> I realize these errors are not critical, but it bugs me that things are
>>> not configured 100%. Also, the errors grab my attention in the log and
>>> distract me form possibly seeing more serious errors.
>>>
>>> I understand the concept of MB and how the election works in regard to OS
>>> etc (all computers are XP SP3)
>>>
>>> I have tried setting:
>>> HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services \Browser\Parameters
>>>
>>> 'IsDomainMaster' to TRUE on one machine and FALSE on others
>>> 'MaintainServerList' to TRUE on one machine AUTO on others
>>>
>>> What is the proper way to configure the MB in this network (there is no
>>> real 'server' or machine that is on all the time to maintain this list)?
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks guys
>
>
 
J

Jill

Flightless Bird
This event happens every few hours:

Event Type: Error
Event Source: MRxSmb
Event Category: None
Event ID: 8003
Date: 2/23/2010
Time: 1:14:07 PM
User: N/A
Computer: COMPUTER2
Description:
The master browser has received a server announcement from the computer
COMPUTER1 that believes that it is the master browser for the domain on
transport NetBT_Tcpip_{EA855360-917A-407. The master browser is stopping or
an election is being forced.

For more information, see Help and Support Center at
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
Data:
0000: 00 00 00 00 03 00 4e 00 ......N.
0008: 00 00 00 00 43 1f 00 c0 ....C..À
0010: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0018: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0020: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........



This event happens when the computer is started/ resumes from sleep
Sometimes Computer1 is NOT on:

Event Type: Warning
Event Source: BROWSER
Event Category: None
Event ID: 8021
Date: 2/23/2010
Time: 5:58:47 AM
User: N/A
Computer: COMPUTER2
Description:
The browser was unable to retrieve a list of servers from the browser master
\\COMPUTER1 on the network
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{EA855360-927A-404B-B2C2-E4E32DB867FB}. The data is the
error code.

For more information, see Help and Support Center at
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
Data:
0000: 35 00 00 00 5...





"John John - MVP" <audetweld@nbnot.nb.ca> wrote in message
news:%23OeJ0k8sKHA.6124@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> You say that you are "constantly getting Master Browser errors...". What
> does this mean? Is it happening once every day when machines are booted
> or is it happening many, many times during the workday, like every 12
> minutes or so?
>
> Can you copy and paste the complete contents of the two errors and post it
> with your nest reply? To copy the event click on the clipboard icon below
> the Up/Down arrows at the upper right.
>
> John
>
> Jill wrote:
>> Yes, same subnet. All static IPs.
>>
>> "John John - MVP" <audetweld@nbnot.nb.ca> wrote in message
>> news:-O15rNV1sKHA.5036@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>> Are all the machines on the same subnet?
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>>> Jill wrote:
>>>> I have a five computer peer to peer network. I am constantly getting
>>>> Master Browser errors in the logs of all of the computers (MRxSmb Event
>>>> ID: 8003, BROWSER Event ID: 8021)
>>>>
>>>> I realize these errors are not critical, but it bugs me that things are
>>>> not configured 100%. Also, the errors grab my attention in the log and
>>>> distract me form possibly seeing more serious errors.
>>>>
>>>> I understand the concept of MB and how the election works in regard to
>>>> OS etc (all computers are XP SP3)
>>>>
>>>> I have tried setting:
>>>> HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services \Browser\Parameters
>>>>
>>>> 'IsDomainMaster' to TRUE on one machine and FALSE on others
>>>> 'MaintainServerList' to TRUE on one machine AUTO on others
>>>>
>>>> What is the proper way to configure the MB in this network (there is no
>>>> real 'server' or machine that is on all the time to maintain this
>>>> list)?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks guys
>>
 
J

John Wunderlich

Flightless Bird
"Jill" <N@NE.nothing> wrote in
news:ekS5xnLtKHA.1608@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl:

> This event happens every few hours:
>
> Event Type: Error
> Event Source: MRxSmb
> Event Category: None
> Event ID: 8003
> Date: 2/23/2010
> Time: 1:14:07 PM
> User: N/A
> Computer: COMPUTER2
> Description:
> The master browser has received a server announcement from the
> computer COMPUTER1 that believes that it is the master browser for
> the domain on transport NetBT_Tcpip_{EA855360-917A-407. The master
> browser is stopping or an election is being forced.
>
> For more information, see Help and Support Center at
> http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
> Data:
> 0000: 00 00 00 00 03 00 4e 00 ......N.
> 0008: 00 00 00 00 43 1f 00 c0 ....C..À
> 0010: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
> 0018: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
> 0020: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........


This error is occurs when there is a computer on your network with a
misconfigured firewall that does not allow NetBT broadcasts to be
received. The computer with the firewall does not see broadcasts from
other computers so it thinks it's the only computer on the subnet and
self-appoints itself as "Master Browser". As Master Browser, it
broadcasts a message every so often declaring itself as such but since
it blocks all replies, it ignores the presence of the rest of the
network. A legitimite Master Browser will shut itself down after
receiving a couple of these announcements and generate the message
above.

In your case, "COMPUTER1" has the firewall that is ignoring COMPUTER2
and causing COMPUTER2 to shut down as Master Browser.

This is [loosely] covered in the following Microsoft KB article:
"Internet firewalls can prevent browsing and file sharing"
<http://support.microsoft.com/kb/298804>

If you can't find/fix the firewall on COMPUTER1, then try setting
COMPUTER1's "MaintainServerList" registry value to "false" using
Regedit as described in the following article then reboot:

"Common causes and solutions of browser Event ID 8021 and Event ID 8032
on domain master browsers"
<http://support.microsoft.com/kb/135404>

HTH,
John
 
J

Jill

Flightless Bird
I think you are correct. I have turned off the Windows Firewall on all
computers and so far no browser errors.
You would think that excluding File & Print sharing from the firewall would
open all ports needed.

"John Wunderlich" <jwunderlich@lycos.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9D2885B8F5E75wunderpsdrscray@138.125.254.103...
> "Jill" <N@NE.nothing> wrote in
> news:ekS5xnLtKHA.1608@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl:
>
>> This event happens every few hours:
>>
>> Event Type: Error
>> Event Source: MRxSmb
>> Event Category: None
>> Event ID: 8003
>> Date: 2/23/2010
>> Time: 1:14:07 PM
>> User: N/A
>> Computer: COMPUTER2
>> Description:
>> The master browser has received a server announcement from the
>> computer COMPUTER1 that believes that it is the master browser for
>> the domain on transport NetBT_Tcpip_{EA855360-917A-407. The master
>> browser is stopping or an election is being forced.
>>
>> For more information, see Help and Support Center at
>> http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
>> Data:
>> 0000: 00 00 00 00 03 00 4e 00 ......N.
>> 0008: 00 00 00 00 43 1f 00 c0 ....C..À
>> 0010: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
>> 0018: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
>> 0020: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
>
>
> This error is occurs when there is a computer on your network with a
> misconfigured firewall that does not allow NetBT broadcasts to be
> received. The computer with the firewall does not see broadcasts from
> other computers so it thinks it's the only computer on the subnet and
> self-appoints itself as "Master Browser". As Master Browser, it
> broadcasts a message every so often declaring itself as such but since
> it blocks all replies, it ignores the presence of the rest of the
> network. A legitimite Master Browser will shut itself down after
> receiving a couple of these announcements and generate the message
> above.
>
> In your case, "COMPUTER1" has the firewall that is ignoring COMPUTER2
> and causing COMPUTER2 to shut down as Master Browser.
>
> This is [loosely] covered in the following Microsoft KB article:
> "Internet firewalls can prevent browsing and file sharing"
> <http://support.microsoft.com/kb/298804>
>
> If you can't find/fix the firewall on COMPUTER1, then try setting
> COMPUTER1's "MaintainServerList" registry value to "false" using
> Regedit as described in the following article then reboot:
>
> "Common causes and solutions of browser Event ID 8021 and Event ID 8032
> on domain master browsers"
> <http://support.microsoft.com/kb/135404>
>
> HTH,
> John
 
J

Jill

Flightless Bird
So an update.
I have had all the firewalls turned off all day and now I am getting the
8021 error on computer1 (it was previously on Computer2)

"John Wunderlich" <jwunderlich@lycos.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9D2885B8F5E75wunderpsdrscray@138.125.254.103...
> "Jill" <N@NE.nothing> wrote in
> news:ekS5xnLtKHA.1608@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl:
>
>> This event happens every few hours:
>>
>> Event Type: Error
>> Event Source: MRxSmb
>> Event Category: None
>> Event ID: 8003
>> Date: 2/23/2010
>> Time: 1:14:07 PM
>> User: N/A
>> Computer: COMPUTER2
>> Description:
>> The master browser has received a server announcement from the
>> computer COMPUTER1 that believes that it is the master browser for
>> the domain on transport NetBT_Tcpip_{EA855360-917A-407. The master
>> browser is stopping or an election is being forced.
>>
>> For more information, see Help and Support Center at
>> http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
>> Data:
>> 0000: 00 00 00 00 03 00 4e 00 ......N.
>> 0008: 00 00 00 00 43 1f 00 c0 ....C..À
>> 0010: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
>> 0018: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
>> 0020: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
>
>
> This error is occurs when there is a computer on your network with a
> misconfigured firewall that does not allow NetBT broadcasts to be
> received. The computer with the firewall does not see broadcasts from
> other computers so it thinks it's the only computer on the subnet and
> self-appoints itself as "Master Browser". As Master Browser, it
> broadcasts a message every so often declaring itself as such but since
> it blocks all replies, it ignores the presence of the rest of the
> network. A legitimite Master Browser will shut itself down after
> receiving a couple of these announcements and generate the message
> above.
>
> In your case, "COMPUTER1" has the firewall that is ignoring COMPUTER2
> and causing COMPUTER2 to shut down as Master Browser.
>
> This is [loosely] covered in the following Microsoft KB article:
> "Internet firewalls can prevent browsing and file sharing"
> <http://support.microsoft.com/kb/298804>
>
> If you can't find/fix the firewall on COMPUTER1, then try setting
> COMPUTER1's "MaintainServerList" registry value to "false" using
> Regedit as described in the following article then reboot:
>
> "Common causes and solutions of browser Event ID 8021 and Event ID 8032
> on domain master browsers"
> <http://support.microsoft.com/kb/135404>
>
> HTH,
> John
 
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