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Cloning a Hard Drive

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Roy Smith

Flightless Bird
"Dave-UK" <Here@Home.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Canuck57" <Canuck57@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:6_YOn.146591$jt.109432@newsfe04.iad...
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> BTW, Win7 has its own imaging software built in so you don't even need
>>>>> Acronis Windows software to do what you want, it will also make a
>>>>> rescue
>>>>> cdrom to restore the image without Windows installed. I've never used
>>>>> it
>>>>> but know the software is already there for you to use.
>>>>
>>>> Does it work? I ask this as I haven't seen a native home MS-Windows PC
>>>> ever recover using MS-Windows native tools. The only ones that seam to
>>>> work are vendor added recovery tools.
>>>
>>> I couldn't find the CD with Acronis True Image WD Edition that I burned
>>> before, so I burned another CD and booted from it. It still doesn't know
>>> what to do with the 143.5 MB area that Windows 7 creates when it is
>>> installed.

>>
>> My comment was aimed at the OS, never have used Acronis so I don't know
>> it. But MS Windows OS utilities supplied by Microsoft, can't say I have
>> heard people having a success rate with them.
>>

>
> I don't normally see your posts as I have you kill-filed due to your
> constant replies
> to the other trolls on this newsgroup.
> I have used Win7's disk image creation and recovery on several machines
> and it works just fine. You don't need to buy any third party software.


Although there is one limitation to the supplied MS backup utility in Win 7
that I don't like. That is if you store your backup files on a networked
drive, it only saves the current disk image. Myself I would prefer to have
a full image along with incremental updates to that image like Acronis does.
That way I am able to restore my system to any date that I desire. But to
each his own... if you're satisfied with the way Win7's backup works, then
I'm happy for you...

--

Roy Smith
Windows 7 Professional
 
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Frank

Flightless Bird
On 6/7/2010 4:13 PM, Roy Smith wrote:
> "Dave-UK" <Here@Home.com> wrote in message
> news:7OednTT3wOLLO5HRnZ2dnUVZ7vOdnZ2d@giganews.com...
>>
>> "Canuck57" <Canuck57@nospam.com> wrote in message
>> news:6_YOn.146591$jt.109432@newsfe04.iad...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> BTW, Win7 has its own imaging software built in so you don't even
>>>>>> need
>>>>>> Acronis Windows software to do what you want, it will also make a
>>>>>> rescue
>>>>>> cdrom to restore the image without Windows installed. I've never
>>>>>> used it
>>>>>> but know the software is already there for you to use.
>>>>>
>>>>> Does it work? I ask this as I haven't seen a native home MS-Windows PC
>>>>> ever recover using MS-Windows native tools. The only ones that seam to
>>>>> work are vendor added recovery tools.
>>>>
>>>> I couldn't find the CD with Acronis True Image WD Edition that I burned
>>>> before, so I burned another CD and booted from it. It still doesn't
>>>> know
>>>> what to do with the 143.5 MB area that Windows 7 creates when it is
>>>> installed.
>>>
>>> My comment was aimed at the OS, never have used Acronis so I don't
>>> know it. But MS Windows OS utilities supplied by Microsoft, can't say
>>> I have heard people having a success rate with them.
>>>

>>
>> I don't normally see your posts as I have you kill-filed due to your
>> constant replies
>> to the other trolls on this newsgroup.
>> I have used Win7's disk image creation and recovery on several machines
>> and it works just fine. You don't need to buy any third party software.

>
> Although there is one limitation to the supplied MS backup utility in
> Win 7 that I don't like. That is if you store your backup files on a
> networked drive, it only saves the current disk image. Myself I would
> prefer to have a full image along with incremental updates to that image
> like Acronis does. That way I am able to restore my system to any date
> that I desire. But to each his own... if you're satisfied with the way
> Win7's backup works, then I'm happy for you...
>

Suggestion: If you have more than one computer, look into using WHS
(Windows Home Server) as it will do exactly what you just said and much
more.
This is a really nice product!

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/products/winfamily/windowshomeserver/default.mspx
 
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Gene E. Bloch

Flightless Bird
On Sat, 05 Jun 2010 18:01:52 -0400, Prescott wrote:

> I have a 320GB Western Digital Caviar Black hard drive that I would like
> to clone to a 1TB Western Digital Caviar Black hard drive. I downloaded
> the Acronis disk management software from the Western Digital Website
> and started trying to clone the drive. The Acronis Disk Management
> software showed the 143MB partition after the Windows 7 boot partition
> on the from drive, as Unallocated space, and it was clear that it was
> not going to copy it.
>
> I went back to the Western Digital Website to get the Acronis user
> manual, and the Acronis disk management software is only for Windows
> 2000, XP, and Vista. It is not listed as being for Windows 7, and not
> surprisingly, it apparently does not know how to clone a Windows 7 drive.
>
> Does anyone out there know a procedure for copying the boot partition,
> and then using the install disk to recreate the boot manager? Or does
> anyone know of any free download that can clone a Windows 7 boot
> partition and end up with a bootable clone?
>
> Thanks


OK, I've got my tuppence worth of opinion too.

I have had satisfactory experience with EASEUS Disk Copy, another free
program that runs from a bootable CD. You can also look at the resulting
clone, unlike what Clonezilla seems to say on the web site.

http://www.easeus.com/disk-copy/

For image backups, I'm happier with Macrium Reflect than with its
competitor Acronis. I use the paid version so I can get incremental and
version backups.

--
Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)
 
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Fishface

Flightless Bird
Thip:

> I've had mostly--but not perfect--luck with Macrium Reflect (free).


Why, what went wrong for you?

It seems like every time I run it there is an updated version that fixes something or
other. It's refreshing to see a company aggressively fixing bugs. Hear that, Adobe?

Now, in order to clone a disk with Reflect, you would need to back up the first disk
to a third and restore it to the new drive, correct? I suppose that works, but takes a
little longer. I just installed a Samsung F3 1TB in a friend's computer. It seems that
Samsung doesn't have a utility to clone the old drive. Since the existing drive was
a Maxtor, I first tried the MaxBlast 4 disk which came with the old drive. It kept
crashing after a while with an unnamed error, suggesting that I run scandisk, which
found no problems. I then downloaded MaxBlast 5 from the Seagate site and it worked
perfectly. It will only work if one of the drives is a Maxtor. It appears that Seagate has
a similar utility. I know that Western Digital has a Lifeguard Tools disk or something
which I tried recently, and it wouldn't even boot for me. That really rubbed me the
wrong way.
 
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K

Flightless Bird
"Frank" <fb@amk.cmo> wrote in message news:4c0d86b2$1@news.x-privat.org...
> On 6/7/2010 4:13 PM, Roy Smith wrote:
>> "Dave-UK" <Here@Home.com> wrote in message
>> news:7OednTT3wOLLO5HRnZ2dnUVZ7vOdnZ2d@giganews.com...
>>>
>>> "Canuck57" <Canuck57@nospam.com> wrote in message
>>> news:6_YOn.146591$jt.109432@newsfe04.iad...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> BTW, Win7 has its own imaging software built in so you don't even
>>>>>>> need
>>>>>>> Acronis Windows software to do what you want, it will also make a
>>>>>>> rescue
>>>>>>> cdrom to restore the image without Windows installed. I've never
>>>>>>> used it
>>>>>>> but know the software is already there for you to use.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Does it work? I ask this as I haven't seen a native home MS-Windows
>>>>>> PC
>>>>>> ever recover using MS-Windows native tools. The only ones that seam
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> work are vendor added recovery tools.
>>>>>
>>>>> I couldn't find the CD with Acronis True Image WD Edition that I
>>>>> burned
>>>>> before, so I burned another CD and booted from it. It still doesn't
>>>>> know
>>>>> what to do with the 143.5 MB area that Windows 7 creates when it is
>>>>> installed.
>>>>
>>>> My comment was aimed at the OS, never have used Acronis so I don't
>>>> know it. But MS Windows OS utilities supplied by Microsoft, can't say
>>>> I have heard people having a success rate with them.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I don't normally see your posts as I have you kill-filed due to your
>>> constant replies
>>> to the other trolls on this newsgroup.
>>> I have used Win7's disk image creation and recovery on several machines
>>> and it works just fine. You don't need to buy any third party software.

>>
>> Although there is one limitation to the supplied MS backup utility in
>> Win 7 that I don't like. That is if you store your backup files on a
>> networked drive, it only saves the current disk image. Myself I would
>> prefer to have a full image along with incremental updates to that image
>> like Acronis does. That way I am able to restore my system to any date
>> that I desire. But to each his own... if you're satisfied with the way
>> Win7's backup works, then I'm happy for you...
>>

> Suggestion: If you have more than one computer, look into using WHS
> (Windows Home Server) as it will do exactly what you just said and much
> more.
> This is a really nice product!
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/windows/products/winfamily/windowshomeserver/default.mspx


Exactly, stick it a new HD, boot from a CD, and you can restore your PC to
any previous date (from backups created automatically by WHS)
K
 
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