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Cleanup of computer

H

Huub

Flightless Bird
Hi,

I want to cleanup a Windows XP computer that has become rather slow. I
already ran defrag. What can I do more and how?

Thanks.
 
P

Pegasus [MVP]

Flightless Bird
"Huub" <v.niekerk_@_hccnet.nl> said this in news item
news:4b6bd7be$0$23917$e4fe514c@dreader16.news.xs4all.nl...
> Hi,
>
> I want to cleanup a Windows XP computer that has become rather slow. I
> already ran defrag. What can I do more and how?
>
> Thanks.


Defrag won't make much of a difference but weeding out the many unnecessary
startup tasks visible in msconfig.exe will. Remember also that your virus
scanner can place a big burden on your CPU, as can a third-party firewall
such as ZoneAlarm.
 
C

Craig Coope

Flightless Bird
On 05 Feb 2010 08:33:02 GMT, Huub <v.niekerk_@_hccnet.nl> wrote:

>Hi,
>
>I want to cleanup a Windows XP computer that has become rather slow. I
>already ran defrag. What can I do more and how?
>
>Thanks.


How full is the Hard Drive?

If it's too full it can cause slow down as your swap file space gets
eaten up.

If you're comfortable with it I'd back up what you want to keep and
format the HD and reinstall Windows. Just remember to have all your
installation CDs ready and your Windows Key at hand.

--
The Zero ST
 
J

Jim

Flightless Bird
On 05 Feb 2010 08:33:02 GMT, Huub <v.niekerk_@_hccnet.nl> wrote:

>Hi,
>
>I want to cleanup a Windows XP computer that has become rather slow. I
>already ran defrag. What can I do more and how?
>
>Thanks.


Have a look here
http://www.ccleaner.com/
 
D

Daave

Flightless Bird
Huub wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I want to cleanup a Windows XP computer that has become rather slow. I
> already ran defrag. What can I do more and how?


Here are the usual causes of sluggishness:

1. Malicious software (malware). You need to rule this out first! This
page has excellent information:

http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/page2.html#Viruses_Malware

2. Certain programs that are designed to combat malware (e.g., Norton
and McAfee). Ironically, they can slow things down because they simply
use way too many resources. Sometime they cause conflicts with other
programs. And their default mode is to scan your entire hard drive each
time you boot up. Fortunately, there are other antimalware programs
available that use far fewer resources (e.g., NOD32, Avast, and Avira).

3. Too many of certain types of programs always running in the
background -- with or without your knowledge. (Then again, many programs
that run in the background have trivial consequences.)

To determine every program and process you are currently running, use
the Task Manager (Ctrl+Alt+Del) and click the Processes tab. You should
be able to sort by CPU usage or Memory usage to get a good ideas which
ones are the resource/memory hogs. You should write down the names of
all the processes for future detective work (or take a snapshot and
print it out).

Use these sites to determine what these programs are and to learn how to
configure them not to always run at startup:

http://www.pacs-portal.co.uk/startup_content.php#THE_PROGRAMS
http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/startups/
http://www.answersthatwork.com/Tasklist_pages/tasklist.htm

Sometimes it is recommended to use msconfig to configure the programs to
not run at startup. A better, more thorough program is Autoruns:

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb963902.aspx

But before you do this, you should use the preference settings of the
program in question. Otherwise, for some programs, they will return to
the startup list anyway!

If you do wish to use msconfig, it may be accessed this way:

Start | Run | type "msconfig" (without the quotation marks) | Enter (or
OK)

4. Not enough RAM, which causes the PC to overly rely on the pagefile. A
quick way to determine if this is happening is to open Task Manager
(Ctrl+Alt+Del) and click the Performance tab. Then note the three values
under Commit Charge (K): in the lower left-hand corner: Total, Limit,
and Peak.

The Total figure represents the amount of memory you are using at that
very moment. The Peak figure represents the highest amount of memory you
used since last bootup. If both these figures are below the value of
Physical Memory (K) Total, then you probably have plenty of RAM.
In case you want to explore this further, you may run Page File Monitor
for Windows XP:

http://www.dougknox.com/xp/utils/xp_pagefilemon.htm

5. You might also want to check that your hard drive's access mode
didn't change from DMA to PIO:

http://www.technize.com/2007/08/02/is-your-hard-disk-cddvd-drives-too-slow-while-copying/

and

http://users.bigpond.net.au/ninjaduck/itserviceduck/udma_fix/
 
K

Ken Blake, MVP

Flightless Bird
On 05 Feb 2010 08:33:02 GMT, Huub <v.niekerk_@_hccnet.nl> wrote:


> I want to cleanup a Windows XP computer that has become rather slow. I
> already ran defrag. What can I do more and how?



There are several possibilities as to what your problem is, but the
most likely one these days is malware infection. What anti-virus and
anti-spyware programs do you run? Are they kept up to date?


--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003
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D

Doum

Flightless Bird
"Pegasus [MVP]" <news@microsoft.com> écrivait
news:0454967C-C7F9-4F4E-995F-2A1A4649B9A1@microsoft.com:

>
>
> "Huub" <v.niekerk_@_hccnet.nl> said this in news item
> news:4b6bd7be$0$23917$e4fe514c@dreader16.news.xs4all.nl...
>> Hi,
>>
>> I want to cleanup a Windows XP computer that has become rather slow.
>> I already ran defrag. What can I do more and how?
>>
>> Thanks.

>
> Defrag won't make much of a difference but weeding out the many
> unnecessary startup tasks visible in msconfig.exe will. Remember also
> that your virus scanner can place a big burden on your CPU, as can a
> third-party firewall such as ZoneAlarm.
>
>


I run ZA Pro security suite on 2 XP and one Seven computer and there is no
annoying slowdown caused by it.
 
H

Huub

Flightless Bird
On Fri, 05 Feb 2010 08:33:02 +0000, Huub wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I want to cleanup a Windows XP computer that has become rather slow. I
> already ran defrag. What can I do more and how?
>
> Thanks.


Thank you for all your replies.

I will do a spy/malware run on the computer and check the msconfig.
 
K

Ken Blake, MVP

Flightless Bird
On 05 Feb 2010 20:29:00 GMT, Huub <v.niekerk_@_hccnet.nl> wrote:

> On Fri, 05 Feb 2010 08:33:02 +0000, Huub wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I want to cleanup a Windows XP computer that has become rather slow. I
> > already ran defrag. What can I do more and how?
> >
> > Thanks.

>
> Thank you for all your replies.



You're welcome. Glad to help.



> I will do a spy/malware run on the computer




But you didn't answer my questions. What anti-virus and anti-spyware
programs do you run? Are they kept up to date?

All Anti-virus and anti-spyware programs are very far from being
equally good. Just because one of each doesn't find anything doesn't
mean that you are free of infections.



> and check the msconfig.


--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003
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S

sf

Flightless Bird
On Fri, 05 Feb 2010 13:48:09 -0700, "Ken Blake, MVP"
<kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote:
>
> But you didn't answer my questions. What anti-virus and anti-spyware
> programs do you run? Are they kept up to date?


I have a slow down and slow startup problem too. I've eliminate a
couple of items from my startup and even cleaned up my desktop (which
actually helped a tiny bit). I just finished looking at
start > run > services.msc and put some items on manual that had been
automatic, but my tower is still laboring noisily at the moment.
>
> All Anti-virus and anti-spyware programs are very far from being
> equally good. Just because one of each doesn't find anything doesn't
> mean that you are free of infections.


I use AVG and Ad-Aware. Both are free versions.
>
>
>
> > and check the msconfig.


Done.

There was nothing odd that I could tell, but I'm not a computer
expert. I'm wondering if I should run Hijack This and post to a
forum?

My other problem is that I will get a "server busy" error message
notification (not every time, but way too often) when using a
hyperlink in email that should open the link in my browser.
"Messenger" is on automatic, if that helps.

If you have any ideas or feedback, I would appreciate it.

TIA

--
I love cooking with wine.
Sometimes I even put it in the food.
 
K

Ken Blake, MVP

Flightless Bird
On Fri, 05 Feb 2010 14:50:53 -0800, sf <sf@geemail.com> wrote:

> On Fri, 05 Feb 2010 13:48:09 -0700, "Ken Blake, MVP"
> <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote:
> >
> > But you didn't answer my questions. What anti-virus and anti-spyware
> > programs do you run? Are they kept up to date?

>
> I have a slow down and slow startup problem too. I've eliminate a
> couple of items from my startup and even cleaned up my desktop (which
> actually helped a tiny bit). I just finished looking at
> start > run > services.msc and put some items on manual that had been
> automatic, but my tower is still laboring noisily at the moment.
> >
> > All Anti-virus and anti-spyware programs are very far from being
> > equally good. Just because one of each doesn't find anything doesn't
> > mean that you are free of infections.

>
> I use AVG and Ad-Aware. Both are free versions.



Not terrible, but not the best products. If you want to stay with
freeware products, I recommend changing from AVG to either Avast or
Avira, and either replacing AdAware with *both* MalwareBytes
Anti-Malware and SuperAntiSpyware (or keeping AdAware and adding those
two to your aarsenal).


> > > and check the msconfig.

>
> Done.
>
> There was nothing odd that I could tell, but I'm not a computer
> expert. I'm wondering if I should run Hijack This and post to a
> forum?
>
> My other problem is that I will get a "server busy" error message
> notification (not every time, but way too often) when using a
> hyperlink in email that should open the link in my browser.
> "Messenger" is on automatic, if that helps.
>
> If you have any ideas or feedback, I would appreciate it.
>
> TIA
>
> --
> I love cooking with wine.
> Sometimes I even put it in the food.


--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003
Please Reply to the Newsgroup
 
B

Brian V

Flightless Bird
If I turn all process to manual and not automatic; can this cause any
problems? Should spyware/malware detecting programs always be on automatic?
Anything else?

It's good I read this. I am getting the same thing, and trying to turn off
(or down) all the process taking the ram and cpu. This is helpful.
 
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sf

Flightless Bird
On Fri, 05 Feb 2010 17:04:46 -0700, "Ken Blake, MVP"
<kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote:

> Not terrible, but not the best products. If you want to stay with
> freeware products,


Oh, yes... always free. I don't use my computer for business so
buying those things are not a write off for me.

> I recommend changing from AVG to either Avast or Avira,


Funny you would say that, because I've used both in the past. What
makes them better than AVG in your opinion? Do they scan email and
web pages too?

> and either replacing AdAware with *both* MalwareBytes
> Anti-Malware and SuperAntiSpyware (or keeping AdAware and adding those
> two to your aarsenal).


Thanks for those tips, because they are new products to me. They
won't conflict with each other and slow me down? I'm not very
impressed with Ad-Aware in its new form, so I was going to look around
anyway. Do you think I need a registry cleaner too, if so which one?


--
I love cooking with wine.
Sometimes I even put it in the food.
 
S

sf

Flightless Bird
On Fri, 5 Feb 2010 18:40:01 -0800, Brian V
<BrianV@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

> If I turn all process to manual and not automatic; can this cause any
> problems? Should spyware/malware detecting programs always be on automatic?
> Anything else?
>
> It's good I read this. I am getting the same thing, and trying to turn off
> (or down) all the process taking the ram and cpu. This is helpful.
>

I can tell you one thing for sure. If you fiddle with local services,
keep messenger turned on - it's not an IM type messenger.

--
I love cooking with wine.
Sometimes I even put it in the food.
 
K

Ken Blake, MVP

Flightless Bird
On Fri, 05 Feb 2010 23:22:37 -0800, sf <sf@geemail.com> wrote:

> On Fri, 05 Feb 2010 17:04:46 -0700, "Ken Blake, MVP"
> <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote:
>
> > Not terrible, but not the best products. If you want to stay with
> > freeware products,

>
> Oh, yes... always free. I don't use my computer for business so
> buying those things are not a write off for me.
>
> > I recommend changing from AVG to either Avast or Avira,

>
> Funny you would say that, because I've used both in the past. What
> makes them better than AVG in your opinion?



Less intrusive and catch more things.


> Do they scan email and



Scanning e-mail is totally unnecessary. They can do it, but I
recommend turning off that feature.


> web pages too?
>
> > and either replacing AdAware with *both* MalwareBytes
> > Anti-Malware and SuperAntiSpyware (or keeping AdAware and adding those
> > two to your aarsenal).

>
> Thanks for those tips, because they are new products to me. They
> won't conflict with each other and slow me down?



Run one at a time.


> I'm not very
> impressed with Ad-Aware in its new form, so I was going to look around
> anyway. Do you think I need a registry cleaner too, if so which one?




No! Avoid all registry cleaners like the plague!

Registry cleaning programs are *all* snake oil. Cleaning of the
registry isn't needed and is dangerous. Leave the registry alone and
don't use any registry cleaner. Despite what many people think, and
what vendors of registry cleaning software try to convince you of,
having unused registry entries doesn't really hurt you.

The risk of a serious problem caused by a registry cleaner erroneously
removing an entry you need is far greater than any potential benefit
it may have.

Read http://www.edbott.com/weblog/archives/000643.html



--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003
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B

Brian V

Flightless Bird
On the subject of retail malware programs: How are Norton 360, Kaspersky,
Webroot......? Those three are pretty common, and often in store flyers.
 
S

sf

Flightless Bird
On Sat, 6 Feb 2010 11:07:01 -0800, Brian V
<BrianV@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

> On the subject of retail malware programs: How are Norton 360, Kaspersky,
> Webroot......? Those three are pretty common, and often in store flyers.


Update: I ran the program at malwarebytes.com and it found a trojan
in the registry. Hopefully that does it. I will take a look at the
other two av programs. My computer doesn't like AVG - it's noisy and
slow when AVG runs (for what seems like an ungodly amount of time).

Thanks all

--
I love cooking with wine.
Sometimes I even put it in the food.
 
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