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Cleanup of computer

Discussion in 'Windows XP' started by Huub, Feb 5, 2010.

  1. Huub

    Huub Flightless Bird

    Hi,

    I want to cleanup a Windows XP computer that has become rather slow. I
    already ran defrag. What can I do more and how?

    Thanks.
     
  2. Pegasus [MVP]

    Pegasus [MVP] Flightless Bird

    "Huub" <v.niekerk_@_hccnet.nl> said this in news item
    news:4b6bd7be$0$23917$e4fe514c@dreader16.news.xs4all.nl...
    > Hi,
    >
    > I want to cleanup a Windows XP computer that has become rather slow. I
    > already ran defrag. What can I do more and how?
    >
    > Thanks.


    Defrag won't make much of a difference but weeding out the many unnecessary
    startup tasks visible in msconfig.exe will. Remember also that your virus
    scanner can place a big burden on your CPU, as can a third-party firewall
    such as ZoneAlarm.
     
  3. Craig Coope

    Craig Coope Flightless Bird

    On 05 Feb 2010 08:33:02 GMT, Huub <v.niekerk_@_hccnet.nl> wrote:

    >Hi,
    >
    >I want to cleanup a Windows XP computer that has become rather slow. I
    >already ran defrag. What can I do more and how?
    >
    >Thanks.


    How full is the Hard Drive?

    If it's too full it can cause slow down as your swap file space gets
    eaten up.

    If you're comfortable with it I'd back up what you want to keep and
    format the HD and reinstall Windows. Just remember to have all your
    installation CDs ready and your Windows Key at hand.

    --
    The Zero ST
     
  4. Jim

    Jim Flightless Bird

    On 05 Feb 2010 08:33:02 GMT, Huub <v.niekerk_@_hccnet.nl> wrote:

    >Hi,
    >
    >I want to cleanup a Windows XP computer that has become rather slow. I
    >already ran defrag. What can I do more and how?
    >
    >Thanks.


    Have a look here
    http://www.ccleaner.com/
     
  5. Daave

    Daave Flightless Bird

    Huub wrote:
    > Hi,
    >
    > I want to cleanup a Windows XP computer that has become rather slow. I
    > already ran defrag. What can I do more and how?


    Here are the usual causes of sluggishness:

    1. Malicious software (malware). You need to rule this out first! This
    page has excellent information:

    http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/page2.html#Viruses_Malware

    2. Certain programs that are designed to combat malware (e.g., Norton
    and McAfee). Ironically, they can slow things down because they simply
    use way too many resources. Sometime they cause conflicts with other
    programs. And their default mode is to scan your entire hard drive each
    time you boot up. Fortunately, there are other antimalware programs
    available that use far fewer resources (e.g., NOD32, Avast, and Avira).

    3. Too many of certain types of programs always running in the
    background -- with or without your knowledge. (Then again, many programs
    that run in the background have trivial consequences.)

    To determine every program and process you are currently running, use
    the Task Manager (Ctrl+Alt+Del) and click the Processes tab. You should
    be able to sort by CPU usage or Memory usage to get a good ideas which
    ones are the resource/memory hogs. You should write down the names of
    all the processes for future detective work (or take a snapshot and
    print it out).

    Use these sites to determine what these programs are and to learn how to
    configure them not to always run at startup:

    http://www.pacs-portal.co.uk/startup_content.php#THE_PROGRAMS
    http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/startups/
    http://www.answersthatwork.com/Tasklist_pages/tasklist.htm

    Sometimes it is recommended to use msconfig to configure the programs to
    not run at startup. A better, more thorough program is Autoruns:

    http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb963902.aspx

    But before you do this, you should use the preference settings of the
    program in question. Otherwise, for some programs, they will return to
    the startup list anyway!

    If you do wish to use msconfig, it may be accessed this way:

    Start | Run | type "msconfig" (without the quotation marks) | Enter (or
    OK)

    4. Not enough RAM, which causes the PC to overly rely on the pagefile. A
    quick way to determine if this is happening is to open Task Manager
    (Ctrl+Alt+Del) and click the Performance tab. Then note the three values
    under Commit Charge (K): in the lower left-hand corner: Total, Limit,
    and Peak.

    The Total figure represents the amount of memory you are using at that
    very moment. The Peak figure represents the highest amount of memory you
    used since last bootup. If both these figures are below the value of
    Physical Memory (K) Total, then you probably have plenty of RAM.
    In case you want to explore this further, you may run Page File Monitor
    for Windows XP:

    http://www.dougknox.com/xp/utils/xp_pagefilemon.htm

    5. You might also want to check that your hard drive's access mode
    didn't change from DMA to PIO:

    http://www.technize.com/2007/08/02/is-your-hard-disk-cddvd-drives-too-slow-while-copying/

    and

    http://users.bigpond.net.au/ninjaduck/itserviceduck/udma_fix/
     
  6. Ken Blake, MVP

    Ken Blake, MVP Flightless Bird

    On 05 Feb 2010 08:33:02 GMT, Huub <v.niekerk_@_hccnet.nl> wrote:


    > I want to cleanup a Windows XP computer that has become rather slow. I
    > already ran defrag. What can I do more and how?



    There are several possibilities as to what your problem is, but the
    most likely one these days is malware infection. What anti-virus and
    anti-spyware programs do you run? Are they kept up to date?


    --
    Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003
    Please Reply to the Newsgroup
     
  7. Doum

    Doum Flightless Bird

    "Pegasus [MVP]" <news@microsoft.com> écrivait
    news:0454967C-C7F9-4F4E-995F-2A1A4649B9A1@microsoft.com:

    >
    >
    > "Huub" <v.niekerk_@_hccnet.nl> said this in news item
    > news:4b6bd7be$0$23917$e4fe514c@dreader16.news.xs4all.nl...
    >> Hi,
    >>
    >> I want to cleanup a Windows XP computer that has become rather slow.
    >> I already ran defrag. What can I do more and how?
    >>
    >> Thanks.

    >
    > Defrag won't make much of a difference but weeding out the many
    > unnecessary startup tasks visible in msconfig.exe will. Remember also
    > that your virus scanner can place a big burden on your CPU, as can a
    > third-party firewall such as ZoneAlarm.
    >
    >


    I run ZA Pro security suite on 2 XP and one Seven computer and there is no
    annoying slowdown caused by it.
     
  8. Huub

    Huub Flightless Bird

    On Fri, 05 Feb 2010 08:33:02 +0000, Huub wrote:

    > Hi,
    >
    > I want to cleanup a Windows XP computer that has become rather slow. I
    > already ran defrag. What can I do more and how?
    >
    > Thanks.


    Thank you for all your replies.

    I will do a spy/malware run on the computer and check the msconfig.
     
  9. Ken Blake, MVP

    Ken Blake, MVP Flightless Bird

    On 05 Feb 2010 20:29:00 GMT, Huub <v.niekerk_@_hccnet.nl> wrote:

    > On Fri, 05 Feb 2010 08:33:02 +0000, Huub wrote:
    >
    > > Hi,
    > >
    > > I want to cleanup a Windows XP computer that has become rather slow. I
    > > already ran defrag. What can I do more and how?
    > >
    > > Thanks.

    >
    > Thank you for all your replies.



    You're welcome. Glad to help.



    > I will do a spy/malware run on the computer




    But you didn't answer my questions. What anti-virus and anti-spyware
    programs do you run? Are they kept up to date?

    All Anti-virus and anti-spyware programs are very far from being
    equally good. Just because one of each doesn't find anything doesn't
    mean that you are free of infections.



    > and check the msconfig.


    --
    Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003
    Please Reply to the Newsgroup
     
  10. sf

    sf Flightless Bird

    On Fri, 05 Feb 2010 13:48:09 -0700, "Ken Blake, MVP"
    <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote:
    >
    > But you didn't answer my questions. What anti-virus and anti-spyware
    > programs do you run? Are they kept up to date?


    I have a slow down and slow startup problem too. I've eliminate a
    couple of items from my startup and even cleaned up my desktop (which
    actually helped a tiny bit). I just finished looking at
    start > run > services.msc and put some items on manual that had been
    automatic, but my tower is still laboring noisily at the moment.
    >
    > All Anti-virus and anti-spyware programs are very far from being
    > equally good. Just because one of each doesn't find anything doesn't
    > mean that you are free of infections.


    I use AVG and Ad-Aware. Both are free versions.
    >
    >
    >
    > > and check the msconfig.


    Done.

    There was nothing odd that I could tell, but I'm not a computer
    expert. I'm wondering if I should run Hijack This and post to a
    forum?

    My other problem is that I will get a "server busy" error message
    notification (not every time, but way too often) when using a
    hyperlink in email that should open the link in my browser.
    "Messenger" is on automatic, if that helps.

    If you have any ideas or feedback, I would appreciate it.

    TIA

    --
    I love cooking with wine.
    Sometimes I even put it in the food.
     
  11. Ken Blake, MVP

    Ken Blake, MVP Flightless Bird

    On Fri, 05 Feb 2010 14:50:53 -0800, sf <sf@geemail.com> wrote:

    > On Fri, 05 Feb 2010 13:48:09 -0700, "Ken Blake, MVP"
    > <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote:
    > >
    > > But you didn't answer my questions. What anti-virus and anti-spyware
    > > programs do you run? Are they kept up to date?

    >
    > I have a slow down and slow startup problem too. I've eliminate a
    > couple of items from my startup and even cleaned up my desktop (which
    > actually helped a tiny bit). I just finished looking at
    > start > run > services.msc and put some items on manual that had been
    > automatic, but my tower is still laboring noisily at the moment.
    > >
    > > All Anti-virus and anti-spyware programs are very far from being
    > > equally good. Just because one of each doesn't find anything doesn't
    > > mean that you are free of infections.

    >
    > I use AVG and Ad-Aware. Both are free versions.



    Not terrible, but not the best products. If you want to stay with
    freeware products, I recommend changing from AVG to either Avast or
    Avira, and either replacing AdAware with *both* MalwareBytes
    Anti-Malware and SuperAntiSpyware (or keeping AdAware and adding those
    two to your aarsenal).


    > > > and check the msconfig.

    >
    > Done.
    >
    > There was nothing odd that I could tell, but I'm not a computer
    > expert. I'm wondering if I should run Hijack This and post to a
    > forum?
    >
    > My other problem is that I will get a "server busy" error message
    > notification (not every time, but way too often) when using a
    > hyperlink in email that should open the link in my browser.
    > "Messenger" is on automatic, if that helps.
    >
    > If you have any ideas or feedback, I would appreciate it.
    >
    > TIA
    >
    > --
    > I love cooking with wine.
    > Sometimes I even put it in the food.


    --
    Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003
    Please Reply to the Newsgroup
     
  12. Brian V

    Brian V Flightless Bird

    If I turn all process to manual and not automatic; can this cause any
    problems? Should spyware/malware detecting programs always be on automatic?
    Anything else?

    It's good I read this. I am getting the same thing, and trying to turn off
    (or down) all the process taking the ram and cpu. This is helpful.
     
  13. sf

    sf Flightless Bird

    On Fri, 05 Feb 2010 17:04:46 -0700, "Ken Blake, MVP"
    <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote:

    > Not terrible, but not the best products. If you want to stay with
    > freeware products,


    Oh, yes... always free. I don't use my computer for business so
    buying those things are not a write off for me.

    > I recommend changing from AVG to either Avast or Avira,


    Funny you would say that, because I've used both in the past. What
    makes them better than AVG in your opinion? Do they scan email and
    web pages too?

    > and either replacing AdAware with *both* MalwareBytes
    > Anti-Malware and SuperAntiSpyware (or keeping AdAware and adding those
    > two to your aarsenal).


    Thanks for those tips, because they are new products to me. They
    won't conflict with each other and slow me down? I'm not very
    impressed with Ad-Aware in its new form, so I was going to look around
    anyway. Do you think I need a registry cleaner too, if so which one?


    --
    I love cooking with wine.
    Sometimes I even put it in the food.
     
  14. sf

    sf Flightless Bird

    On Fri, 5 Feb 2010 18:40:01 -0800, Brian V
    <BrianV@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

    > If I turn all process to manual and not automatic; can this cause any
    > problems? Should spyware/malware detecting programs always be on automatic?
    > Anything else?
    >
    > It's good I read this. I am getting the same thing, and trying to turn off
    > (or down) all the process taking the ram and cpu. This is helpful.
    >

    I can tell you one thing for sure. If you fiddle with local services,
    keep messenger turned on - it's not an IM type messenger.

    --
    I love cooking with wine.
    Sometimes I even put it in the food.
     
  15. Ken Blake, MVP

    Ken Blake, MVP Flightless Bird

    On Fri, 05 Feb 2010 23:22:37 -0800, sf <sf@geemail.com> wrote:

    > On Fri, 05 Feb 2010 17:04:46 -0700, "Ken Blake, MVP"
    > <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote:
    >
    > > Not terrible, but not the best products. If you want to stay with
    > > freeware products,

    >
    > Oh, yes... always free. I don't use my computer for business so
    > buying those things are not a write off for me.
    >
    > > I recommend changing from AVG to either Avast or Avira,

    >
    > Funny you would say that, because I've used both in the past. What
    > makes them better than AVG in your opinion?



    Less intrusive and catch more things.


    > Do they scan email and



    Scanning e-mail is totally unnecessary. They can do it, but I
    recommend turning off that feature.


    > web pages too?
    >
    > > and either replacing AdAware with *both* MalwareBytes
    > > Anti-Malware and SuperAntiSpyware (or keeping AdAware and adding those
    > > two to your aarsenal).

    >
    > Thanks for those tips, because they are new products to me. They
    > won't conflict with each other and slow me down?



    Run one at a time.


    > I'm not very
    > impressed with Ad-Aware in its new form, so I was going to look around
    > anyway. Do you think I need a registry cleaner too, if so which one?




    No! Avoid all registry cleaners like the plague!

    Registry cleaning programs are *all* snake oil. Cleaning of the
    registry isn't needed and is dangerous. Leave the registry alone and
    don't use any registry cleaner. Despite what many people think, and
    what vendors of registry cleaning software try to convince you of,
    having unused registry entries doesn't really hurt you.

    The risk of a serious problem caused by a registry cleaner erroneously
    removing an entry you need is far greater than any potential benefit
    it may have.

    Read http://www.edbott.com/weblog/archives/000643.html



    --
    Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003
    Please Reply to the Newsgroup
     
  16. Brian V

    Brian V Flightless Bird

    On the subject of retail malware programs: How are Norton 360, Kaspersky,
    Webroot......? Those three are pretty common, and often in store flyers.
     
  17. sf

    sf Flightless Bird

    On Sat, 6 Feb 2010 11:07:01 -0800, Brian V
    <BrianV@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

    > On the subject of retail malware programs: How are Norton 360, Kaspersky,
    > Webroot......? Those three are pretty common, and often in store flyers.


    Update: I ran the program at malwarebytes.com and it found a trojan
    in the registry. Hopefully that does it. I will take a look at the
    other two av programs. My computer doesn't like AVG - it's noisy and
    slow when AVG runs (for what seems like an ungodly amount of time).

    Thanks all

    --
    I love cooking with wine.
    Sometimes I even put it in the food.
     

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