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CHKDSK 'Ok to decouple C drive?'

Discussion in 'Windows XP' started by Graham, Aug 20, 2010.

  1. Graham

    Graham Flightless Bird

    Trying to run chkdsk , will not run at boot , due to unknown
    sata xp problems

    but using, run , dos cmd , , chkdsk c: /r will run , but asks
    to 'dismount C drive'

    Q what happens if I select -ok- ?

    The operating system is on C .. what happens if its dismounted ..
    will chkdsk -re-mount- after its run .. or is this a one way
    trip ?

    tnx - G
     
  2. John John - MVP

    John John - MVP Flightless Bird

    Graham wrote:
    > Trying to run chkdsk , will not run at boot , due to unknown
    > sata xp problems
    >
    > but using, run , dos cmd , , chkdsk c: /r will run , but asks
    > to 'dismount C drive'
    >
    > Q what happens if I select -ok- ?
    >
    > The operating system is on C .. what happens if its dismounted ..
    > will chkdsk -re-mount- after its run .. or is this a one way
    > trip ?


    It will run the next time you boot the computer, just before Windows is
    loaded.

    John
     
  3. Graham

    Graham Flightless Bird

    Re: CHKDSK 'Ok to decouple C drive?'

    On Aug 20, 12:21 pm, John John - MVP <audetw...@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote:
    > Graham wrote:
    > > Trying to  run chkdsk , will  not  run at  boot  , due to  unknown
    > > sata xp  problems

    >
    > >  but  using, run , dos  cmd , , chkdsk c: /r   will  run , but  asks
    > > to  'dismount C drive'

    >
    > > Q  what happens  if I select  -ok- ?

    >
    > > The  operating  system is  on C .. what  happens if its  dismounted ..
    > > will  chkdsk -re-mount- after its run .. or is this a  one  way
    > > trip ?

    >
    > It will run the next time you boot the computer, just before Windows is
    > loaded.
    >
    > John


    ? John,,, I have some problem with running chkdsk at
    boot ,chkdsk runs . says cannot access the volume and then
    windows boots ... I had to edit the registery to remove the key
    to stop it trying to run at every boot
    Im seeing blue- driver-irq-not-less-equ , with isator.sys in the
    info box .. so would like to run chkdsk .. but it will -not- run
    at boot ... so

    I can run via chckdsk , via the command prompt ..... what is
    the implication of dismounting drive C ??

    tnx - G.
     
  4. John John - MVP

    John John - MVP Flightless Bird

    Re: CHKDSK 'Ok to decouple C drive?'

    Graham wrote:
    > On Aug 20, 12:21 pm, John John - MVP <audetw...@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote:
    >> Graham wrote:
    >>> Trying to run chkdsk , will not run at boot , due to unknown
    >>> sata xp problems
    >>> but using, run , dos cmd , , chkdsk c: /r will run , but asks
    >>> to 'dismount C drive'
    >>> Q what happens if I select -ok- ?
    >>> The operating system is on C .. what happens if its dismounted ..
    >>> will chkdsk -re-mount- after its run .. or is this a one way
    >>> trip ?

    >> It will run the next time you boot the computer, just before Windows is
    >> loaded.
    >>
    >> John

    >
    > ? John,,, I have some problem with running chkdsk at
    > boot ,chkdsk runs . says cannot access the volume and then
    > windows boots ... I had to edit the registery to remove the key
    > to stop it trying to run at every boot


    Instead of manually editing the registry use the CHKNTFS command to
    cancel all scheduled chkdsk and return the machine to default behaviour,
    at the command prompt enter the following:

    chkntfs /d

    You should run the command, this will ensure that the registry value is
    correct.


    > Im seeing blue- driver-irq-not-less-equ , with isator.sys in the
    > info box .. so would like to run chkdsk .. but it will -not- run
    > at boot ... so


    I think that you mean: IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL in iastor.sys...

    Go in the BIOS and make sure that the disk controller is not set up as
    RAID enabled.



    > I can run via chckdsk , via the command prompt ..... what is
    > the implication of dismounting drive C ??


    Chkdsk cannot dismount the Windows drive, answer Yes and you will get a
    second message telling you that much and you will then be asked if you
    want to schedule a boot time disk check.

    John
     
  5. Graham

    Graham Flightless Bird

    Re: CHKDSK 'Ok to decouple C drive?'

    On Aug 20, 2:00 pm, John John - MVP <audetw...@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote:
    > Graham wrote:
    > > On Aug 20, 12:21 pm, John John - MVP <audetw...@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote:
    > >> Graham wrote:
    > >>> Trying to  run chkdsk , will  not  run at  boot  , due to  unknown
    > >>> sata xp  problems
    > >>>  but  using, run , dos  cmd , , chkdsk c: /r   will  run , but  asks
    > >>> to  'dismount C drive'
    > >>> Q  what happens  if I select  -ok- ?
    > >>> The  operating  system is  on C .. what  happens if its  dismounted ..
    > >>> will  chkdsk -re-mount- after its run .. or is this a  one  way
    > >>> trip ?
    > >> It will run the next time you boot the computer, just before Windows is
    > >> loaded.

    >
    > >> John

    >
    > > ? John,,,  I have  some  problem  with  running  chkdsk at
    > > boot ,chkdsk runs . says  cannot  access  the  volume and  then
    > > windows boots  ... I had to edit the  registery to  remove the  key
    > > to  stop  it  trying to  run at  every boot

    >
    > Instead of manually editing the registry use the CHKNTFS command to
    > cancel all scheduled chkdsk and return the machine to default behaviour,
    > at the command prompt enter the following:
    >
    > chkntfs /d
    >
    > You should run the command, this will ensure that the registry value is
    > correct.
    >
    > > Im seeing  blue- driver-irq-not-less-equ   , with   isator.sys inthe
    > > info  box .. so  would  like to run chkdsk .. but  it will -not- run
    > > at boot ... so

    >
    > I think that you mean:  IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL in iastor.sys...
    >
    > Go in the BIOS and make sure that the disk controller is not set up as
    > RAID enabled.
    >
    > > I can  run  via  chckdsk , via the  command  prompt .....  what is
    > > the  implication  of  dismounting  drive C ??

    >
    > Chkdsk cannot dismount the Windows drive, answer Yes and you will get a
    > second message telling you that much and you will then be asked if you
    > want to schedule a boot time disk check.
    >
    > John


    tnx on the info .. still not running - cannot find
    volume ..etc

    Checked bios

    ICH SATA = AHCI
    SATA/IDE = AHCI

    Still looks like no way to run chkdsk , as the run on boot fails ,
    also cannot boot into safe mode .. loads to the point of
    loading hd drivers / sys then stalls

    something is wrong with the sata drivers as it seems , cannot
    access the volume until 'all' win-xp has loaded ..
    assume what ever is missing is not loaded 'before' chkdsk

    can run the on-line defrag part of windows tune up .. but thats the
    only disk utility that runs .. assume that's because the system
    is 'running' at this point

    G..
     
  6. John John - MVP

    John John - MVP Flightless Bird

    Re: CHKDSK 'Ok to decouple C drive?'

    Graham wrote:
    > On Aug 20, 2:00 pm, John John - MVP <audetw...@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote:
    >> Graham wrote:
    >>> On Aug 20, 12:21 pm, John John - MVP <audetw...@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote:
    >>>> Graham wrote:
    >>>>> Trying to run chkdsk , will not run at boot , due to unknown
    >>>>> sata xp problems
    >>>>> but using, run , dos cmd , , chkdsk c: /r will run , but asks
    >>>>> to 'dismount C drive'
    >>>>> Q what happens if I select -ok- ?
    >>>>> The operating system is on C .. what happens if its dismounted ..
    >>>>> will chkdsk -re-mount- after its run .. or is this a one way
    >>>>> trip ?
    >>>> It will run the next time you boot the computer, just before Windows is
    >>>> loaded.
    >>>> John
    >>> ? John,,, I have some problem with running chkdsk at
    >>> boot ,chkdsk runs . says cannot access the volume and then
    >>> windows boots ... I had to edit the registery to remove the key
    >>> to stop it trying to run at every boot

    >> Instead of manually editing the registry use the CHKNTFS command to
    >> cancel all scheduled chkdsk and return the machine to default behaviour,
    >> at the command prompt enter the following:
    >>
    >> chkntfs /d
    >>
    >> You should run the command, this will ensure that the registry value is
    >> correct.
    >>
    >>> Im seeing blue- driver-irq-not-less-equ , with isator.sys in the
    >>> info box .. so would like to run chkdsk .. but it will -not- run
    >>> at boot ... so

    >> I think that you mean: IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL in iastor.sys...
    >>
    >> Go in the BIOS and make sure that the disk controller is not set up as
    >> RAID enabled.
    >>
    >>> I can run via chckdsk , via the command prompt ..... what is
    >>> the implication of dismounting drive C ??

    >> Chkdsk cannot dismount the Windows drive, answer Yes and you will get a
    >> second message telling you that much and you will then be asked if you
    >> want to schedule a boot time disk check.
    >>
    >> John

    >
    > tnx on the info .. still not running - cannot find
    > volume ..etc
    >
    > Checked bios
    >
    > ICH SATA = AHCI
    > SATA/IDE = AHCI


    Make and model number of the computer?

    Place the SATA/IDE in IDE (Legacy) mode.


    John
     
  7. Michael

    Michael Flightless Bird

    "Graham" <g0nbd@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    news:5a16e5e4-bd63-41ee-a6c5-b9fb76c5acbb@t20g2000yqa.googlegroups.com...
    > Trying to run chkdsk , will not run at boot , due to unknown
    > sata xp problems
    >
    > but using, run , dos cmd , , chkdsk c: /r will run , but asks
    > to 'dismount C drive'
    >
    > Q what happens if I select -ok- ?
    >
    > The operating system is on C .. what happens if its dismounted ..
    > will chkdsk -re-mount- after its run .. or is this a one way
    > trip ?
    >
    > tnx - G


    What brand of computer? I had the same exact problem. Ran Dell Diagnostics
    and came up with a toilet-load of errors on the HDD. Dell gave no
    resistance and sent me another. Also, that particular laptop was loaded
    with malware and other nasties. You may want to run malwarebytes for the
    hell of it.
    --

    "Don't pick a fight with an old man.
    If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you."
     
  8. Graham

    Graham Flightless Bird

    Re: CHKDSK 'Ok to decouple C drive?'

    On Aug 20, 3:42 pm, "Michael" <ds...@sdhfsd.com> wrote:
    > "Graham" <g0...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    >
    > news:5a16e5e4-bd63-41ee-a6c5-b9fb76c5acbb@t20g2000yqa.googlegroups.com...
    >
    > > Trying to  run chkdsk , will  not  run at  boot  , due to  unknown
    > > sata xp  problems

    >
    > > but  using, run , dos  cmd , , chkdsk c: /r   will  run , but  asks
    > > to  'dismount C drive'

    >
    > > Q  what happens  if I select  -ok- ?

    >
    > > The  operating  system is  on C .. what  happens if its  dismounted ..
    > > will  chkdsk -re-mount- after its run .. or is this a  one  way
    > > trip ?

    >
    > > tnx - G

    >
    > What brand of computer?  I had the same exact problem.  Ran Dell Diagnostics
    > and came up with a toilet-load of errors on the HDD.  Dell gave no
    > resistance and sent me another.  Also, that particular laptop was loaded
    > with malware and other nasties.  You may want to run malwarebytes for the
    > hell of it.
    > --
    >
    > "Don't pick a fight with an old man.
    > If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you."


    Ok Michel

    No pc is home made started life as a P1 -75 meg , well the case
    did

    Its a gigabyte ex58-ud4p , intel P4 quad core , 4 gig ram , 1 x 650
    gb and 1 x 500 gb WD sata 2 hard drive's
    running xp-pro ,fully update .

    ran trend-house call - malware bytes - spybot s and d - avast free
    installed
    all show ok

    since i 'loaded' or so i thought the sata drivers .. i have not
    been able to run safe mode or the disk tools

    will the dell diagnostics run on a non dell pc ?

    G.
     
  9. Graham

    Graham Flightless Bird

    Re: CHKDSK 'Ok to decouple C drive?'

    On Aug 20, 3:09 pm, John John - MVP <audetw...@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote:
    > Graham wrote:
    > > On Aug 20, 2:00 pm, John John - MVP <audetw...@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote:
    > >> Graham wrote:
    > >>> On Aug 20, 12:21 pm, John John - MVP <audetw...@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote:
    > >>>> Graham wrote:
    > >>>>> Trying to  run chkdsk , will  not  run at  boot  , due to unknown
    > >>>>> sata xp  problems
    > >>>>>  but  using, run , dos  cmd , , chkdsk c: /r   will  run , but  asks
    > >>>>> to  'dismount C drive'
    > >>>>> Q  what happens  if I select  -ok- ?
    > >>>>> The  operating  system is  on C .. what  happens if its  dismounted ..
    > >>>>> will  chkdsk -re-mount- after its run .. or is this a  one  way
    > >>>>> trip ?
    > >>>> It will run the next time you boot the computer, just before Windowsis
    > >>>> loaded.
    > >>>> John
    > >>> ? John,,,  I have  some  problem  with  running  chkdsk at
    > >>> boot ,chkdsk runs . says  cannot  access  the  volume and  then
    > >>> windows boots  ... I had to edit the  registery to  remove the  key
    > >>> to  stop  it  trying to  run at  every boot
    > >> Instead of manually editing the registry use the CHKNTFS command to
    > >> cancel all scheduled chkdsk and return the machine to default behaviour,
    > >> at the command prompt enter the following:

    >
    > >> chkntfs /d

    >
    > >> You should run the command, this will ensure that the registry value is
    > >> correct.

    >
    > >>> Im seeing  blue- driver-irq-not-less-equ   , with   isator.sys in the
    > >>> info  box .. so  would  like to run chkdsk .. but  it will -not- run
    > >>> at boot ... so
    > >> I think that you mean:  IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL in iastor.sys...

    >
    > >> Go in the BIOS and make sure that the disk controller is not set up as
    > >> RAID enabled.

    >
    > >>> I can  run  via  chckdsk , via the  command  prompt .....  what is
    > >>> the  implication  of  dismounting  drive C ??
    > >> Chkdsk cannot dismount the Windows drive, answer Yes and you will get a
    > >> second message telling you that much and you will then be asked if you
    > >> want to schedule a boot time disk check.

    >
    > >> John

    >
    > > tnx on the  info  ..  still  not  running  -  cannot find
    > > volume ..etc

    >
    > > Checked bios

    >
    > > ICH SATA = AHCI
    > > SATA/IDE = AHCI

    >
    > Make and model number of the computer?
    >
    > Place the SATA/IDE in IDE (Legacy) mode.
    >
    > John


    Its a gigabyte ex58-ud4p , intel P4 quad core , 4 gig ram , 1 x 650
    gb and 1 x 500 gb WD sata 2 hard drive's
    running xp-pro ,fully update .

    will try that

    G..
     
  10. Graham

    Graham Flightless Bird

    Re: CHKDSK 'Ok to decouple C drive?'

    On Aug 20, 3:09 pm, John John - MVP <audetw...@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote:
    > Graham wrote:
    > > On Aug 20, 2:00 pm, John John - MVP <audetw...@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote:
    > >> Graham wrote:
    > >>> On Aug 20, 12:21 pm, John John - MVP <audetw...@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote:
    > >>>> Graham wrote:
    > >>>>> Trying to  run chkdsk , will  not  run at  boot  , due to unknown
    > >>>>> sata xp  problems
    > >>>>>  but  using, run , dos  cmd , , chkdsk c: /r   will  run , but  asks
    > >>>>> to  'dismount C drive'
    > >>>>> Q  what happens  if I select  -ok- ?
    > >>>>> The  operating  system is  on C .. what  happens if its  dismounted ..
    > >>>>> will  chkdsk -re-mount- after its run .. or is this a  one  way
    > >>>>> trip ?
    > >>>> It will run the next time you boot the computer, just before Windowsis
    > >>>> loaded.
    > >>>> John
    > >>> ? John,,,  I have  some  problem  with  running  chkdsk at
    > >>> boot ,chkdsk runs . says  cannot  access  the  volume and  then
    > >>> windows boots  ... I had to edit the  registery to  remove the  key
    > >>> to  stop  it  trying to  run at  every boot
    > >> Instead of manually editing the registry use the CHKNTFS command to
    > >> cancel all scheduled chkdsk and return the machine to default behaviour,
    > >> at the command prompt enter the following:

    >
    > >> chkntfs /d

    >
    > >> You should run the command, this will ensure that the registry value is
    > >> correct.

    >
    > >>> Im seeing  blue- driver-irq-not-less-equ   , with   isator.sys in the
    > >>> info  box .. so  would  like to run chkdsk .. but  it will -not- run
    > >>> at boot ... so
    > >> I think that you mean:  IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL in iastor.sys...

    >
    > >> Go in the BIOS and make sure that the disk controller is not set up as
    > >> RAID enabled.

    >
    > >>> I can  run  via  chckdsk , via the  command  prompt .....  what is
    > >>> the  implication  of  dismounting  drive C ??
    > >> Chkdsk cannot dismount the Windows drive, answer Yes and you will get a
    > >> second message telling you that much and you will then be asked if you
    > >> want to schedule a boot time disk check.

    >
    > >> John

    >
    > > tnx on the  info  ..  still  not  running  -  cannot find
    > > volume ..etc

    >
    > > Checked bios

    >
    > > ICH SATA = AHCI
    > > SATA/IDE = AHCI

    >
    > Make and model number of the computer?
    >
    > Place the SATA/IDE in IDE (Legacy) mode.
    >
    > John- Hide quoted text -
    >
    > - Show quoted text -


    Tried that, set bios , .drive C , clicked on chkdsk, repair , run
    on re-boot , same as before
    .. Error message , ' cannot open volume for direct access' ,, then
    windows boots

    tnx - G..
     
  11. John John - MVP

    John John - MVP Flightless Bird

    Re: CHKDSK 'Ok to decouple C drive?'

    On 8/20/2010 12:23 PM, Graham wrote:
    > On Aug 20, 3:09 pm, John John - MVP<audetw...@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote:
    >> Graham wrote:
    >>> On Aug 20, 2:00 pm, John John - MVP<audetw...@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote:
    >>>> Graham wrote:
    >>>>> On Aug 20, 12:21 pm, John John - MVP<audetw...@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote:
    >>>>>> Graham wrote:
    >>>>>>> Trying to run chkdsk , will not run at boot , due to unknown
    >>>>>>> sata xp problems
    >>>>>>> but using, run , dos cmd , , chkdsk c: /r will run , but asks
    >>>>>>> to 'dismount C drive'
    >>>>>>> Q what happens if I select -ok- ?
    >>>>>>> The operating system is on C .. what happens if its dismounted ..
    >>>>>>> will chkdsk -re-mount- after its run .. or is this a one way
    >>>>>>> trip ?
    >>>>>> It will run the next time you boot the computer, just before Windows is
    >>>>>> loaded.
    >>>>>> John
    >>>>> ? John,,, I have some problem with running chkdsk at
    >>>>> boot ,chkdsk runs . says cannot access the volume and then
    >>>>> windows boots ... I had to edit the registery to remove the key
    >>>>> to stop it trying to run at every boot
    >>>> Instead of manually editing the registry use the CHKNTFS command to
    >>>> cancel all scheduled chkdsk and return the machine to default behaviour,
    >>>> at the command prompt enter the following:

    >>
    >>>> chkntfs /d

    >>
    >>>> You should run the command, this will ensure that the registry value is
    >>>> correct.

    >>
    >>>>> Im seeing blue- driver-irq-not-less-equ , with isator.sys in the
    >>>>> info box .. so would like to run chkdsk .. but it will -not- run
    >>>>> at boot ... so
    >>>> I think that you mean: IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL in iastor.sys...

    >>
    >>>> Go in the BIOS and make sure that the disk controller is not set up as
    >>>> RAID enabled.

    >>
    >>>>> I can run via chckdsk , via the command prompt ..... what is
    >>>>> the implication of dismounting drive C ??
    >>>> Chkdsk cannot dismount the Windows drive, answer Yes and you will get a
    >>>> second message telling you that much and you will then be asked if you
    >>>> want to schedule a boot time disk check.

    >>
    >>>> John

    >>
    >>> tnx on the info .. still not running - cannot find
    >>> volume ..etc

    >>
    >>> Checked bios

    >>
    >>> ICH SATA = AHCI
    >>> SATA/IDE = AHCI

    >>
    >> Make and model number of the computer?
    >>
    >> Place the SATA/IDE in IDE (Legacy) mode.
    >>
    >> John- Hide quoted text -
    >>
    >> - Show quoted text -

    >
    > Tried that, set bios , .drive C , clicked on chkdsk, repair , run
    > on re-boot , same as before
    > . Error message , ' cannot open volume for direct access' ,, then
    > windows boots


    And when Windows boots you get an error message? What is the *exact*
    error message?

    Please try to schedule chkdsk from the Command Prompt, at the prompt
    enter the following commands, pressing <Enter> after each:


    chkntfs /d
    chkdsk c: /f

    When ask if you want to dismount the volume answer Yes. When informed
    that chkdsk cannot dismount the volume and asked if you want the drive
    checked on restart answer Yes then reboot the computer.

    John
     
  12. Graham

    Graham Flightless Bird

    Re: CHKDSK 'Ok to decouple C drive?'

    On Aug 20, 4:48 pm, John John - MVP <audetw...@nbnot.nb.ca> wrote:
    > On 8/20/2010 12:23 PM, Graham wrote:
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > > On Aug 20, 3:09 pm, John John - MVP<audetw...@nbnet.nb.ca>  wrote:
    > >> Graham wrote:
    > >>> On Aug 20, 2:00 pm, John John - MVP<audetw...@nbnet.nb.ca>  wrote:
    > >>>> Graham wrote:
    > >>>>> On Aug 20, 12:21 pm, John John - MVP<audetw...@nbnet.nb.ca>  wrote:
    > >>>>>> Graham wrote:
    > >>>>>>> Trying to  run chkdsk , will  not  run at  boot  , due to  unknown
    > >>>>>>> sata xp  problems
    > >>>>>>>   but  using, run , dos  cmd , , chkdsk c: /r   will  run , but  asks
    > >>>>>>> to  'dismount C drive'
    > >>>>>>> Q  what happens  if I select  -ok- ?
    > >>>>>>> The  operating  system is  on C .. what  happens if its  dismounted ..
    > >>>>>>> will  chkdsk -re-mount- after its run .. or is this a  one  way
    > >>>>>>> trip ?
    > >>>>>> It will run the next time you boot the computer, just before Windows is
    > >>>>>> loaded.
    > >>>>>> John
    > >>>>> ? John,,,  I have  some  problem  with  running  chkdskat
    > >>>>> boot ,chkdsk runs . says  cannot  access  the  volume and  then
    > >>>>> windows boots  ... I had to edit the  registery to  remove the  key
    > >>>>> to  stop  it  trying to  run at  every boot
    > >>>> Instead of manually editing the registry use the CHKNTFS command to
    > >>>> cancel all scheduled chkdsk and return the machine to default behaviour,
    > >>>> at the command prompt enter the following:

    >
    > >>>> chkntfs /d

    >
    > >>>> You should run the command, this will ensure that the registry valueis
    > >>>> correct.

    >
    > >>>>> Im seeing  blue- driver-irq-not-less-equ   , with   isator.sys in the
    > >>>>> info  box .. so  would  like to run chkdsk .. but  it will -not- run
    > >>>>> at boot ... so
    > >>>> I think that you mean:  IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL in iastor.sys...

    >
    > >>>> Go in the BIOS and make sure that the disk controller is not set up as
    > >>>> RAID enabled.

    >
    > >>>>> I can  run  via  chckdsk , via the  command  prompt ..... what is
    > >>>>> the  implication  of  dismounting  drive C ??
    > >>>> Chkdsk cannot dismount the Windows drive, answer Yes and you will get a
    > >>>> second message telling you that much and you will then be asked if you
    > >>>> want to schedule a boot time disk check.

    >
    > >>>> John

    >
    > >>> tnx on the  info  ..  still  not  running  -  cannot find
    > >>> volume ..etc

    >
    > >>> Checked bios

    >
    > >>> ICH SATA = AHCI
    > >>> SATA/IDE = AHCI

    >
    > >> Make and model number of the computer?

    >
    > >> Place the SATA/IDE in IDE (Legacy) mode.

    >
    > >> John- Hide quoted text -

    >
    > >> - Show quoted text -

    >
    > > Tried that, set  bios ,   .drive C , clicked on chkdsk, repair , run
    > > on re-boot , same as before
    > > . Error message , ' cannot  open  volume  for  direct access' ,, then
    > > windows  boots

    >
    > And when Windows boots you get an error message?  What is the *exact*
    > error message?
    >
    > Please try to schedule chkdsk from the Command Prompt, at the prompt
    > enter the following commands, pressing <Enter> after each:
    >
    > chkntfs /d
    > chkdsk c: /f
    >
    > When ask if you want to dismount the volume answer Yes.  When informed
    > that chkdsk cannot dismount the volume and asked if you want the drive
    > checked on restart answer Yes then reboot the computer.
    >
    > John- Hide quoted text -
    >
    > - Show quoted text -


    Ok J.

    Well running via the command line, the pc re booted and -did
    not- attempt to run chkdsk , tried 2 times .. same , re boot ,
    direct to windows 'no' chkdsk

    Chkdsk via the 'my computer' checked the 2 tick boxes , re
    booted , same error
    checking file system .. ntfs
    cannot open volume for direct access

    then .. windows boots normally >
    G..
     
  13. Michael

    Michael Flightless Bird

    Re: CHKDSK 'Ok to decouple C drive?'

    "Graham" <g0nbd@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    news:c929690b-5112-45a3-8454-4cb50e2d115c@l20g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
    > On Aug 20, 3:42 pm, "Michael" <ds...@sdhfsd.com> wrote:
    >> "Graham" <g0...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    >>
    >> news:5a16e5e4-bd63-41ee-a6c5-b9fb76c5acbb@t20g2000yqa.googlegroups.com...
    >>
    >> > Trying to run chkdsk , will not run at boot , due to unknown
    >> > sata xp problems

    >>
    >> > but using, run , dos cmd , , chkdsk c: /r will run , but asks
    >> > to 'dismount C drive'

    >>
    >> > Q what happens if I select -ok- ?

    >>
    >> > The operating system is on C .. what happens if its dismounted ..
    >> > will chkdsk -re-mount- after its run .. or is this a one way
    >> > trip ?

    >>
    >> > tnx - G

    >>
    >> What brand of computer? I had the same exact problem. Ran Dell
    >> Diagnostics
    >> and came up with a toilet-load of errors on the HDD. Dell gave no
    >> resistance and sent me another. Also, that particular laptop was loaded
    >> with malware and other nasties. You may want to run malwarebytes for the
    >> hell of it.
    >> --
    >>
    >> "Don't pick a fight with an old man.
    >> If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you."

    >
    > Ok Michel
    >
    > No pc is home made started life as a P1 -75 meg , well the case
    > did
    >
    > Its a gigabyte ex58-ud4p , intel P4 quad core , 4 gig ram , 1 x 650
    > gb and 1 x 500 gb WD sata 2 hard drive's
    > running xp-pro ,fully update .
    >
    > ran trend-house call - malware bytes - spybot s and d - avast free
    > installed
    > all show ok
    >
    > since i 'loaded' or so i thought the sata drivers .. i have not
    > been able to run safe mode or the disk tools
    >
    > will the dell diagnostics run on a non dell pc ?
    >
    > G.


    To answer your last question, I have no idea. I'd head to WD's site and
    download and run their utility to check the HDD.

    --

    "Don't pick a fight with an old man.
    If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you."
     
  14. John John - MVP

    John John - MVP Flightless Bird

    Re: CHKDSK 'Ok to decouple C drive?'

    On 8/20/2010 3:15 PM, Graham wrote:
    > On Aug 20, 4:48 pm, John John - MVP<audetw...@nbnot.nb.ca> wrote:
    >> On 8/20/2010 12:23 PM, Graham wrote:
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>> On Aug 20, 3:09 pm, John John - MVP<audetw...@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote:
    >>>> Graham wrote:
    >>>>> On Aug 20, 2:00 pm, John John - MVP<audetw...@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote:
    >>>>>> Graham wrote:
    >>>>>>> On Aug 20, 12:21 pm, John John - MVP<audetw...@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote:
    >>>>>>>> Graham wrote:
    >>>>>>>>> Trying to run chkdsk , will not run at boot , due to unknown
    >>>>>>>>> sata xp problems
    >>>>>>>>> but using, run , dos cmd , , chkdsk c: /r will run , but asks
    >>>>>>>>> to 'dismount C drive'
    >>>>>>>>> Q what happens if I select -ok- ?
    >>>>>>>>> The operating system is on C .. what happens if its dismounted ..
    >>>>>>>>> will chkdsk -re-mount- after its run .. or is this a one way
    >>>>>>>>> trip ?
    >>>>>>>> It will run the next time you boot the computer, just before Windows is
    >>>>>>>> loaded.
    >>>>>>>> John
    >>>>>>> ? John,,, I have some problem with running chkdsk at
    >>>>>>> boot ,chkdsk runs . says cannot access the volume and then
    >>>>>>> windows boots ... I had to edit the registery to remove the key
    >>>>>>> to stop it trying to run at every boot
    >>>>>> Instead of manually editing the registry use the CHKNTFS command to
    >>>>>> cancel all scheduled chkdsk and return the machine to default behaviour,
    >>>>>> at the command prompt enter the following:

    >>
    >>>>>> chkntfs /d

    >>
    >>>>>> You should run the command, this will ensure that the registry value is
    >>>>>> correct.

    >>
    >>>>>>> Im seeing blue- driver-irq-not-less-equ , with isator.sys in the
    >>>>>>> info box .. so would like to run chkdsk .. but it will -not- run
    >>>>>>> at boot ... so
    >>>>>> I think that you mean: IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL in iastor.sys...

    >>
    >>>>>> Go in the BIOS and make sure that the disk controller is not set up as
    >>>>>> RAID enabled.

    >>
    >>>>>>> I can run via chckdsk , via the command prompt ..... what is
    >>>>>>> the implication of dismounting drive C ??
    >>>>>> Chkdsk cannot dismount the Windows drive, answer Yes and you will get a
    >>>>>> second message telling you that much and you will then be asked if you
    >>>>>> want to schedule a boot time disk check.

    >>
    >>>>>> John

    >>
    >>>>> tnx on the info .. still not running - cannot find
    >>>>> volume ..etc

    >>
    >>>>> Checked bios

    >>
    >>>>> ICH SATA = AHCI
    >>>>> SATA/IDE = AHCI

    >>
    >>>> Make and model number of the computer?

    >>
    >>>> Place the SATA/IDE in IDE (Legacy) mode.

    >>
    >>>> John- Hide quoted text -

    >>
    >>>> - Show quoted text -

    >>
    >>> Tried that, set bios , .drive C , clicked on chkdsk, repair , run
    >>> on re-boot , same as before
    >>> . Error message , ' cannot open volume for direct access' ,, then
    >>> windows boots

    >>
    >> And when Windows boots you get an error message? What is the *exact*
    >> error message?
    >>
    >> Please try to schedule chkdsk from the Command Prompt, at the prompt
    >> enter the following commands, pressing<Enter> after each:
    >>
    >> chkntfs /d
    >> chkdsk c: /f
    >>
    >> When ask if you want to dismount the volume answer Yes. When informed
    >> that chkdsk cannot dismount the volume and asked if you want the drive
    >> checked on restart answer Yes then reboot the computer.
    >>
    >> John- Hide quoted text -
    >>
    >> - Show quoted text -

    >
    > Ok J.
    >
    > Well running via the command line, the pc re booted and -did
    > not- attempt to run chkdsk , tried 2 times .. same , re boot ,
    > direct to windows 'no' chkdsk
    >
    > Chkdsk via the 'my computer' checked the 2 tick boxes , re
    > booted , same error
    > checking file system .. ntfs
    > cannot open volume for direct access
    >
    > then .. windows boots normally>


    Run chkdsk /p from the Recovery Console.

    John
     
  15. Graham

    Graham Flightless Bird

    Re: CHKDSK 'Ok to decouple C drive?'

    On Aug 21, 4:21 am, John John - MVP <audetw...@nbnot.nb.ca> wrote:
    > On 8/20/2010 3:15 PM, Graham wrote:
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > > On Aug 20, 4:48 pm, John John - MVP<audetw...@nbnot.nb.ca>  wrote:
    > >> On 8/20/2010 12:23 PM, Graham wrote:

    >
    > >>> On Aug 20, 3:09 pm, John John - MVP<audetw...@nbnet.nb.ca>    wrote:
    > >>>> Graham wrote:
    > >>>>> On Aug 20, 2:00 pm, John John - MVP<audetw...@nbnet.nb.ca>    wrote:
    > >>>>>> Graham wrote:
    > >>>>>>> On Aug 20, 12:21 pm, John John - MVP<audetw...@nbnet.nb.ca>    wrote:
    > >>>>>>>> Graham wrote:
    > >>>>>>>>> Trying to  run chkdsk , will  not  run at  boot  , due to  unknown
    > >>>>>>>>> sata xp  problems
    > >>>>>>>>>    but  using, run , dos  cmd , , chkdsk c: /r   will run , but  asks
    > >>>>>>>>> to  'dismount C drive'
    > >>>>>>>>> Q  what happens  if I select  -ok- ?
    > >>>>>>>>> The  operating  system is  on C .. what  happens if its dismounted ..
    > >>>>>>>>> will  chkdsk -re-mount- after its run .. or is this a  one  way
    > >>>>>>>>> trip ?
    > >>>>>>>> It will run the next time you boot the computer, just before Windows is
    > >>>>>>>> loaded.
    > >>>>>>>> John
    > >>>>>>> ? John,,,  I have  some  problem  with  running  chkdsk at
    > >>>>>>> boot ,chkdsk runs . says  cannot  access  the  volume and then
    > >>>>>>> windows boots  ... I had to edit the  registery to  remove the  key
    > >>>>>>> to  stop  it  trying to  run at  every boot
    > >>>>>> Instead of manually editing the registry use the CHKNTFS command to
    > >>>>>> cancel all scheduled chkdsk and return the machine to default behaviour,
    > >>>>>> at the command prompt enter the following:

    >
    > >>>>>> chkntfs /d

    >
    > >>>>>> You should run the command, this will ensure that the registry value is
    > >>>>>> correct.

    >
    > >>>>>>> Im seeing  blue- driver-irq-not-less-equ   , with   isator.sys in the
    > >>>>>>> info  box .. so  would  like to run chkdsk .. but  it will -not- run
    > >>>>>>> at boot ... so
    > >>>>>> I think that you mean:  IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL in iastor.sys...

    >
    > >>>>>> Go in the BIOS and make sure that the disk controller is not set up as
    > >>>>>> RAID enabled.

    >
    > >>>>>>> I can  run  via  chckdsk , via the  command  prompt ......  what is
    > >>>>>>> the  implication  of  dismounting  drive C ??
    > >>>>>> Chkdsk cannot dismount the Windows drive, answer Yes and you will get a
    > >>>>>> second message telling you that much and you will then be asked ifyou
    > >>>>>> want to schedule a boot time disk check.

    >
    > >>>>>> John

    >
    > >>>>> tnx on the  info  ..  still  not  running  -  cannot find
    > >>>>> volume ..etc

    >
    > >>>>> Checked bios

    >
    > >>>>> ICH SATA = AHCI
    > >>>>> SATA/IDE = AHCI

    >
    > >>>> Make and model number of the computer?

    >
    > >>>> Place the SATA/IDE in IDE (Legacy) mode.

    >
    > >>>> John- Hide quoted text -

    >
    > >>>> - Show quoted text -

    >
    > >>> Tried that, set  bios ,   .drive C , clicked on chkdsk, repair , run
    > >>> on re-boot , same as before
    > >>> . Error message , ' cannot  open  volume  for  direct access',, then
    > >>> windows  boots

    >
    > >> And when Windows boots you get an error message?  What is the *exact*
    > >> error message?

    >
    > >> Please try to schedule chkdsk from the Command Prompt, at the prompt
    > >> enter the following commands, pressing<Enter>  after each:

    >
    > >> chkntfs /d
    > >> chkdsk c: /f

    >
    > >> When ask if you want to dismount the volume answer Yes.  When informed
    > >> that chkdsk cannot dismount the volume and asked if you want the drive
    > >> checked on restart answer Yes then reboot the computer.

    >
    > >> John- Hide quoted text -

    >
    > >> - Show quoted text -

    >
    > > Ok J.

    >
    > > Well  running via the  command  line, the  pc re  booted and  -did
    > > not- attempt to  run chkdsk , tried  2 times  .. same  , re boot  ,
    > > direct to  windows  'no' chkdsk

    >
    > > Chkdsk  via the  'my computer'   checked the  2  tick  boxes , re
    > > booted , same  error
    > > checking  file system  .. ntfs
    > > cannot  open  volume  for  direct access

    >
    > > then .. windows  boots  normally>

    >
    > Run  chkdsk /p  from the Recovery Console.
    >
    > John- Hide quoted text -
    >
    > - Show quoted text -


    No way ..boot from cd , load intel ich10 , boots then blue
    crash ... So cannot actually do anyhthing

    Q what drivers would be needed to 'roll back' to revert the pc
    to the original -wrong ide-
    state ??

    asks to remove new disk drivers etc

    OX0000007B 0XF8D2524 0XC0000034 0X00000000 OX00000000
     
  16. John John - MVP

    John John - MVP Flightless Bird

    Re: CHKDSK 'Ok to decouple C drive?'

    On 8/21/2010 9:49 AM, Graham wrote:
    > On Aug 21, 4:21 am, John John - MVP<audetw...@nbnot.nb.ca> wrote:
    >> On 8/20/2010 3:15 PM, Graham wrote:
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>> On Aug 20, 4:48 pm, John John - MVP<audetw...@nbnot.nb.ca> wrote:
    >>>> On 8/20/2010 12:23 PM, Graham wrote:

    >>
    >>>>> On Aug 20, 3:09 pm, John John - MVP<audetw...@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote:
    >>>>>> Graham wrote:
    >>>>>>> On Aug 20, 2:00 pm, John John - MVP<audetw...@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote:
    >>>>>>>> Graham wrote:
    >>>>>>>>> On Aug 20, 12:21 pm, John John - MVP<audetw...@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>> Graham wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>> Trying to run chkdsk , will not run at boot , due to unknown
    >>>>>>>>>>> sata xp problems
    >>>>>>>>>>> but using, run , dos cmd , , chkdsk c: /r will run , but asks
    >>>>>>>>>>> to 'dismount C drive'
    >>>>>>>>>>> Q what happens if I select -ok- ?
    >>>>>>>>>>> The operating system is on C .. what happens if its dismounted ..
    >>>>>>>>>>> will chkdsk -re-mount- after its run .. or is this a one way
    >>>>>>>>>>> trip ?
    >>>>>>>>>> It will run the next time you boot the computer, just before Windows is
    >>>>>>>>>> loaded.
    >>>>>>>>>> John
    >>>>>>>>> ? John,,, I have some problem with running chkdsk at
    >>>>>>>>> boot ,chkdsk runs . says cannot access the volume and then
    >>>>>>>>> windows boots ... I had to edit the registery to remove the key
    >>>>>>>>> to stop it trying to run at every boot
    >>>>>>>> Instead of manually editing the registry use the CHKNTFS command to
    >>>>>>>> cancel all scheduled chkdsk and return the machine to default behaviour,
    >>>>>>>> at the command prompt enter the following:

    >>
    >>>>>>>> chkntfs /d

    >>
    >>>>>>>> You should run the command, this will ensure that the registry value is
    >>>>>>>> correct.

    >>
    >>>>>>>>> Im seeing blue- driver-irq-not-less-equ , with isator.sys in the
    >>>>>>>>> info box .. so would like to run chkdsk .. but it will -not- run
    >>>>>>>>> at boot ... so
    >>>>>>>> I think that you mean: IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL in iastor.sys...

    >>
    >>>>>>>> Go in the BIOS and make sure that the disk controller is not set up as
    >>>>>>>> RAID enabled.

    >>
    >>>>>>>>> I can run via chckdsk , via the command prompt ..... what is
    >>>>>>>>> the implication of dismounting drive C ??
    >>>>>>>> Chkdsk cannot dismount the Windows drive, answer Yes and you will get a
    >>>>>>>> second message telling you that much and you will then be asked if you
    >>>>>>>> want to schedule a boot time disk check.

    >>
    >>>>>>>> John

    >>
    >>>>>>> tnx on the info .. still not running - cannot find
    >>>>>>> volume ..etc

    >>
    >>>>>>> Checked bios

    >>
    >>>>>>> ICH SATA = AHCI
    >>>>>>> SATA/IDE = AHCI

    >>
    >>>>>> Make and model number of the computer?

    >>
    >>>>>> Place the SATA/IDE in IDE (Legacy) mode.

    >>
    >>>>>> John- Hide quoted text -

    >>
    >>>>>> - Show quoted text -

    >>
    >>>>> Tried that, set bios , .drive C , clicked on chkdsk, repair , run
    >>>>> on re-boot , same as before
    >>>>> . Error message , ' cannot open volume for direct access' ,, then
    >>>>> windows boots

    >>
    >>>> And when Windows boots you get an error message? What is the *exact*
    >>>> error message?

    >>
    >>>> Please try to schedule chkdsk from the Command Prompt, at the prompt
    >>>> enter the following commands, pressing<Enter> after each:

    >>
    >>>> chkntfs /d
    >>>> chkdsk c: /f

    >>
    >>>> When ask if you want to dismount the volume answer Yes. When informed
    >>>> that chkdsk cannot dismount the volume and asked if you want the drive
    >>>> checked on restart answer Yes then reboot the computer.

    >>
    >>>> John- Hide quoted text -

    >>
    >>>> - Show quoted text -

    >>
    >>> Ok J.

    >>
    >>> Well running via the command line, the pc re booted and -did
    >>> not- attempt to run chkdsk , tried 2 times .. same , re boot ,
    >>> direct to windows 'no' chkdsk

    >>
    >>> Chkdsk via the 'my computer' checked the 2 tick boxes , re
    >>> booted , same error
    >>> checking file system .. ntfs
    >>> cannot open volume for direct access

    >>
    >>> then .. windows boots normally>

    >>
    >> Run chkdsk /p from the Recovery Console.
    >>
    >> John- Hide quoted text -
    >>
    >> - Show quoted text -

    >
    > No way ..boot from cd , load intel ich10 , boots then blue
    > crash ... So cannot actually do anyhthing
    >
    > Q what drivers would be needed to 'roll back' to revert the pc
    > to the original -wrong ide-
    > state ??
    >
    > asks to remove new disk drivers etc
    >
    > OX0000007B 0XF8D2524 0XC0000034 0X00000000 OX00000000


    It sounds to me like your drive is not in IDE mode (in the BIOS), if
    they were you wouldn't be getting the 0x7b error, this error tells you
    that Windows cannot 'see' the drive controller. In IDE mode no special
    drivers are required. The SATA RAID/AHCI Mode should be set to
    disabled, consult your motherboard manual for more help.

    When booting with the CD you will see the message at the bottom of the
    screen very early in the booting process asking you to press F6 to load
    Mass Storage Drivers. If the drives are in SATA RAID/AHCI Mode you need
    to press F6 and provide the controller drivers on a floppy diskette, the
    setup program will load them then the Recovery Console will be able to
    access the disk and run chkdsk.

    The same problem is happening when Windows tries to do the chkdsk at
    boot time, it can't find the proper drivers for the controller, this is
    because the drivers were not properly installed. Were the drivers
    installed using the F6 method when Windows was installed?

    John
     
  17. Graham

    Graham Flightless Bird

    Re: CHKDSK 'Ok to decouple C drive?'

    On Aug 23, 1:06 am, John John - MVP <audetw...@nbnot.nb.ca> wrote:
    > On 8/21/2010 9:49 AM, Graham wrote:
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > > On Aug 21, 4:21 am, John John - MVP<audetw...@nbnot.nb.ca>  wrote:
    > >> On 8/20/2010 3:15 PM, Graham wrote:

    >
    > >>> On Aug 20, 4:48 pm, John John - MVP<audetw...@nbnot.nb.ca>    wrote:
    > >>>> On 8/20/2010 12:23 PM, Graham wrote:

    >
    > >>>>> On Aug 20, 3:09 pm, John John - MVP<audetw...@nbnet.nb.ca>      wrote:
    > >>>>>> Graham wrote:
    > >>>>>>> On Aug 20, 2:00 pm, John John - MVP<audetw...@nbnet.nb.ca>      wrote:
    > >>>>>>>> Graham wrote:
    > >>>>>>>>> On Aug 20, 12:21 pm, John John - MVP<audetw...@nbnet.nb.ca>     wrote:
    > >>>>>>>>>> Graham wrote:
    > >>>>>>>>>>> Trying to  run chkdsk , will  not  run at  boot  , due to  unknown
    > >>>>>>>>>>> sata xp  problems
    > >>>>>>>>>>>     but  using, run , dos  cmd , , chkdsk c: /r   will  run , but  asks
    > >>>>>>>>>>> to  'dismount C drive'
    > >>>>>>>>>>> Q  what happens  if I select  -ok- ?
    > >>>>>>>>>>> The  operating  system is  on C .. what  happens if its  dismounted ..
    > >>>>>>>>>>> will  chkdsk -re-mount- after its run .. or is this a  one  way
    > >>>>>>>>>>> trip ?
    > >>>>>>>>>> It will run the next time you boot the computer, just before Windows is
    > >>>>>>>>>> loaded.
    > >>>>>>>>>> John
    > >>>>>>>>> ? John,,,  I have  some  problem  with  running  chkdsk at
    > >>>>>>>>> boot ,chkdsk runs . says  cannot  access  the  volume and  then
    > >>>>>>>>> windows boots  ... I had to edit the  registery to  remove the  key
    > >>>>>>>>> to  stop  it  trying to  run at  every boot
    > >>>>>>>> Instead of manually editing the registry use the CHKNTFS commandto
    > >>>>>>>> cancel all scheduled chkdsk and return the machine to default behaviour,
    > >>>>>>>> at the command prompt enter the following:

    >
    > >>>>>>>> chkntfs /d

    >
    > >>>>>>>> You should run the command, this will ensure that the registry value is
    > >>>>>>>> correct.

    >
    > >>>>>>>>> Im seeing  blue- driver-irq-not-less-equ   , with   isator.sys in the
    > >>>>>>>>> info  box .. so  would  like to run chkdsk .. but  it will -not- run
    > >>>>>>>>> at boot ... so
    > >>>>>>>> I think that you mean:  IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL in iastor.sys....

    >
    > >>>>>>>> Go in the BIOS and make sure that the disk controller is not setup as
    > >>>>>>>> RAID enabled.

    >
    > >>>>>>>>> I can  run  via  chckdsk , via the  command  prompt ......  what is
    > >>>>>>>>> the  implication  of  dismounting  drive C ??
    > >>>>>>>> Chkdsk cannot dismount the Windows drive, answer Yes and you will get a
    > >>>>>>>> second message telling you that much and you will then be asked if you
    > >>>>>>>> want to schedule a boot time disk check.

    >
    > >>>>>>>> John

    >
    > >>>>>>> tnx on the  info  ..  still  not  running  -  cannot find
    > >>>>>>> volume ..etc

    >
    > >>>>>>> Checked bios

    >
    > >>>>>>> ICH SATA = AHCI
    > >>>>>>> SATA/IDE = AHCI

    >
    > >>>>>> Make and model number of the computer?

    >
    > >>>>>> Place the SATA/IDE in IDE (Legacy) mode.

    >
    > >>>>>> John- Hide quoted text -

    >
    > >>>>>> - Show quoted text -

    >
    > >>>>> Tried that, set  bios ,   .drive C , clicked on chkdsk, repair , run
    > >>>>> on re-boot , same as before
    > >>>>> . Error message , ' cannot  open  volume  for  direct access' ,, then
    > >>>>> windows  boots

    >
    > >>>> And when Windows boots you get an error message?  What is the *exact*
    > >>>> error message?

    >
    > >>>> Please try to schedule chkdsk from the Command Prompt, at the prompt
    > >>>> enter the following commands, pressing<Enter>    after each:

    >
    > >>>> chkntfs /d
    > >>>> chkdsk c: /f

    >
    > >>>> When ask if you want to dismount the volume answer Yes.  When informed
    > >>>> that chkdsk cannot dismount the volume and asked if you want the drive
    > >>>> checked on restart answer Yes then reboot the computer.

    >
    > >>>> John- Hide quoted text -

    >
    > >>>> - Show quoted text -

    >
    > >>> Ok J.

    >
    > >>> Well  running via the  command  line, the  pc re  booted and  -did
    > >>> not- attempt to  run chkdsk , tried  2 times  .. same  , re boot  ,
    > >>> direct to  windows  'no' chkdsk

    >
    > >>> Chkdsk  via the  'my computer'   checked the  2  tick  boxes , re
    > >>> booted , same  error
    > >>> checking  file system  .. ntfs
    > >>> cannot  open  volume  for  direct access

    >
    > >>> then .. windows  boots  normally>

    >
    > >> Run  chkdsk /p  from the Recovery Console.

    >
    > >> John- Hide quoted text -

    >
    > >> - Show quoted text -

    >
    > > No  way  ..boot  from  cd , load intel ich10 , boots then blue
    > > crash ... So  cannot  actually do  anyhthing

    >
    > > Q  what  drivers  would be  needed  to  'roll back'  to  revert the pc
    > > to the  original  -wrong ide-
    > > state ??

    >
    > > asks  to  remove  new disk  drivers etc

    >
    > > OX0000007B  0XF8D2524  0XC0000034  0X00000000 OX00000000

    >
    > It sounds to me like your drive is not in IDE mode (in the BIOS), if
    > they were you wouldn't be getting the 0x7b error, this error tells you
    > that Windows cannot 'see' the drive controller.  In IDE mode no special
    > drivers are required.  The SATA RAID/AHCI Mode should be set to
    > disabled, consult your motherboard manual for more help.
    >
    > When booting with the CD you will see the message at the bottom of the
    > screen very early in the booting process asking you to press F6 to load
    > Mass Storage Drivers.  If the drives are in SATA RAID/AHCI Mode you need
    > to press F6 and provide the controller drivers on a floppy diskette, the
    > setup program will load them then the Recovery Console will be able to
    > access the disk and run chkdsk.
    >
    > The same problem is happening when Windows tries to do the chkdsk at
    > boot time, it can't find the proper drivers for the controller, this is
    > because the drivers were not properly installed.  Were the drivers
    > installed using the F6 method when Windows was installed?
    >
    > John- Hide quoted text -
    >
    > - Show quoted text -


    Thanks John,

    yes the F6 was used but the install 'crashed' it looks like i
    have now some form of -hybrid- install , with the sata drivers
    running - after- the boot sequence has compleated ..

    Any attempt to the run the set from the cd now results in a blue-
    screen crash
    Looks like the only way is to set the m-board back to IDE .. then
    I assume xp will
    re configure back to IDE ?

    Q trying to install 'sata' after windows is installed , looks -
    not- to be possible .or at the very least
    needs quite a involved set of reg-dits .. etc ???

    Tnx - G.
     
  18. John John - MVP

    John John - MVP Flightless Bird

    Re: CHKDSK 'Ok to decouple C drive?'

    Graham wrote:
    > On Aug 23, 1:06 am, John John - MVP <audetw...@nbnot.nb.ca> wrote:
    >> On 8/21/2010 9:49 AM, Graham wrote:
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>> On Aug 21, 4:21 am, John John - MVP<audetw...@nbnot.nb.ca> wrote:
    >>>> On 8/20/2010 3:15 PM, Graham wrote:
    >>>>> On Aug 20, 4:48 pm, John John - MVP<audetw...@nbnot.nb.ca> wrote:
    >>>>>> On 8/20/2010 12:23 PM, Graham wrote:
    >>>>>>> On Aug 20, 3:09 pm, John John - MVP<audetw...@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote:
    >>>>>>>> Graham wrote:
    >>>>>>>>> On Aug 20, 2:00 pm, John John - MVP<audetw...@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>> Graham wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 20, 12:21 pm, John John - MVP<audetw...@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>> Graham wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> Trying to run chkdsk , will not run at boot , due to unknown
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> sata xp problems
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> but using, run , dos cmd , , chkdsk c: /r will run , but asks
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> to 'dismount C drive'
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> Q what happens if I select -ok- ?
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> The operating system is on C .. what happens if its dismounted ..
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> will chkdsk -re-mount- after its run .. or is this a one way
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> trip ?
    >>>>>>>>>>>> It will run the next time you boot the computer, just before Windows is
    >>>>>>>>>>>> loaded.
    >>>>>>>>>>>> John
    >>>>>>>>>>> ? John,,, I have some problem with running chkdsk at
    >>>>>>>>>>> boot ,chkdsk runs . says cannot access the volume and then
    >>>>>>>>>>> windows boots ... I had to edit the registery to remove the key
    >>>>>>>>>>> to stop it trying to run at every boot
    >>>>>>>>>> Instead of manually editing the registry use the CHKNTFS command to
    >>>>>>>>>> cancel all scheduled chkdsk and return the machine to default behaviour,
    >>>>>>>>>> at the command prompt enter the following:
    >>>>>>>>>> chkntfs /d
    >>>>>>>>>> You should run the command, this will ensure that the registry value is
    >>>>>>>>>> correct.
    >>>>>>>>>>> Im seeing blue- driver-irq-not-less-equ , with isator.sys in the
    >>>>>>>>>>> info box .. so would like to run chkdsk .. but it will -not- run
    >>>>>>>>>>> at boot ... so
    >>>>>>>>>> I think that you mean: IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL in iastor.sys...
    >>>>>>>>>> Go in the BIOS and make sure that the disk controller is not set up as
    >>>>>>>>>> RAID enabled.
    >>>>>>>>>>> I can run via chckdsk , via the command prompt ..... what is
    >>>>>>>>>>> the implication of dismounting drive C ??
    >>>>>>>>>> Chkdsk cannot dismount the Windows drive, answer Yes and you will get a
    >>>>>>>>>> second message telling you that much and you will then be asked if you
    >>>>>>>>>> want to schedule a boot time disk check.
    >>>>>>>>>> John
    >>>>>>>>> tnx on the info .. still not running - cannot find
    >>>>>>>>> volume ..etc
    >>>>>>>>> Checked bios
    >>>>>>>>> ICH SATA = AHCI
    >>>>>>>>> SATA/IDE = AHCI
    >>>>>>>> Make and model number of the computer?
    >>>>>>>> Place the SATA/IDE in IDE (Legacy) mode.
    >>>>>>>> John- Hide quoted text -
    >>>>>>>> - Show quoted text -
    >>>>>>> Tried that, set bios , .drive C , clicked on chkdsk, repair , run
    >>>>>>> on re-boot , same as before
    >>>>>>> . Error message , ' cannot open volume for direct access' ,, then
    >>>>>>> windows boots
    >>>>>> And when Windows boots you get an error message? What is the *exact*
    >>>>>> error message?
    >>>>>> Please try to schedule chkdsk from the Command Prompt, at the prompt
    >>>>>> enter the following commands, pressing<Enter> after each:
    >>>>>> chkntfs /d
    >>>>>> chkdsk c: /f
    >>>>>> When ask if you want to dismount the volume answer Yes. When informed
    >>>>>> that chkdsk cannot dismount the volume and asked if you want the drive
    >>>>>> checked on restart answer Yes then reboot the computer.
    >>>>>> John- Hide quoted text -
    >>>>>> - Show quoted text -
    >>>>> Ok J.
    >>>>> Well running via the command line, the pc re booted and -did
    >>>>> not- attempt to run chkdsk , tried 2 times .. same , re boot ,
    >>>>> direct to windows 'no' chkdsk
    >>>>> Chkdsk via the 'my computer' checked the 2 tick boxes , re
    >>>>> booted , same error
    >>>>> checking file system .. ntfs
    >>>>> cannot open volume for direct access
    >>>>> then .. windows boots normally>
    >>>> Run chkdsk /p from the Recovery Console.
    >>>> John- Hide quoted text -
    >>>> - Show quoted text -
    >>> No way ..boot from cd , load intel ich10 , boots then blue
    >>> crash ... So cannot actually do anyhthing
    >>> Q what drivers would be needed to 'roll back' to revert the pc
    >>> to the original -wrong ide-
    >>> state ??
    >>> asks to remove new disk drivers etc
    >>> OX0000007B 0XF8D2524 0XC0000034 0X00000000 OX00000000

    >> It sounds to me like your drive is not in IDE mode (in the BIOS), if
    >> they were you wouldn't be getting the 0x7b error, this error tells you
    >> that Windows cannot 'see' the drive controller. In IDE mode no special
    >> drivers are required. The SATA RAID/AHCI Mode should be set to
    >> disabled, consult your motherboard manual for more help.
    >>
    >> When booting with the CD you will see the message at the bottom of the
    >> screen very early in the booting process asking you to press F6 to load
    >> Mass Storage Drivers. If the drives are in SATA RAID/AHCI Mode you need
    >> to press F6 and provide the controller drivers on a floppy diskette, the
    >> setup program will load them then the Recovery Console will be able to
    >> access the disk and run chkdsk.
    >>
    >> The same problem is happening when Windows tries to do the chkdsk at
    >> boot time, it can't find the proper drivers for the controller, this is
    >> because the drivers were not properly installed. Were the drivers
    >> installed using the F6 method when Windows was installed?
    >>
    >> John- Hide quoted text -
    >>
    >> - Show quoted text -

    >
    > Thanks John,
    >
    > yes the F6 was used but the install 'crashed' it looks like i
    > have now some form of -hybrid- install , with the sata drivers
    > running - after- the boot sequence has compleated ..


    I think that is your problem with the boot time disk check.



    > Any attempt to the run the set from the cd now results in a blue-
    > screen crash


    Whenever you boot from the Windows XP cd, be it to install Windows or to
    access the Recovery Console as long as the drives are in SATA RAID/AHCI
    Mode you will have to press F6 and supply the controller drivers on a
    floppy diskette, the drivers are not on the Windows XP CD so you have to
    supply them for the setup program to see the drive.



    > Looks like the only way is to set the m-board back to IDE .. then
    > I assume xp will
    > re configure back to IDE ?


    That should work, a lot of folks with these kind of motherboards without
    floppy diskette and who don't want to create a CD with the drivers
    incorporated opt for this option and forgo the SATA advantages.



    > Q trying to install 'sata' after windows is installed , looks -
    > not- to be possible .or at the very least
    > needs quite a involved set of reg-dits .. etc ???


    You can try the information in these search results:
    http://search.yahoo.com/search;_ylt...gabyte+ex58-ud4p&fr=yfp-t-501&fr2=sfp&iscqry=

    Or do a repair install and use the F6 method and supply the proper
    drivers to the setup program.

    John
     
  19. Graham

    Graham Flightless Bird

    Re: CHKDSK 'Ok to decouple C drive?'

    On Aug 24, 8:03 pm, John John - MVP <audetw...@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote:
    > Graham wrote:
    > > On Aug 23, 1:06 am, John John - MVP <audetw...@nbnot.nb.ca> wrote:
    > >> On 8/21/2010 9:49 AM, Graham wrote:

    >
    > >>> On Aug 21, 4:21 am, John John - MVP<audetw...@nbnot.nb.ca>  wrote:
    > >>>> On 8/20/2010 3:15 PM, Graham wrote:
    > >>>>> On Aug 20, 4:48 pm, John John - MVP<audetw...@nbnot.nb.ca>    wrote:
    > >>>>>> On 8/20/2010 12:23 PM, Graham wrote:
    > >>>>>>> On Aug 20, 3:09 pm, John John - MVP<audetw...@nbnet.nb.ca>      wrote:
    > >>>>>>>> Graham wrote:
    > >>>>>>>>> On Aug 20, 2:00 pm, John John - MVP<audetw...@nbnet.nb.ca>      wrote:
    > >>>>>>>>>> Graham wrote:
    > >>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 20, 12:21 pm, John John - MVP<audetw...@nbnet.nb.ca>      wrote:
    > >>>>>>>>>>>> Graham wrote:
    > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Trying to  run chkdsk , will  not  run at  boot  , due to  unknown
    > >>>>>>>>>>>>> sata xp  problems
    > >>>>>>>>>>>>>     but  using, run , dos  cmd , , chkdsk c: /r  will  run , but  asks
    > >>>>>>>>>>>>> to  'dismount C drive'
    > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Q  what happens  if I select  -ok- ?
    > >>>>>>>>>>>>> The  operating  system is  on C .. what  happens ifits  dismounted ..
    > >>>>>>>>>>>>> will  chkdsk -re-mount- after its run .. or is this a  one  way
    > >>>>>>>>>>>>> trip ?
    > >>>>>>>>>>>> It will run the next time you boot the computer, just beforeWindows is
    > >>>>>>>>>>>> loaded.
    > >>>>>>>>>>>> John
    > >>>>>>>>>>> ? John,,,  I have  some  problem  with  running  chkdsk at
    > >>>>>>>>>>> boot ,chkdsk runs . says  cannot  access  the  volumeand  then
    > >>>>>>>>>>> windows boots  ... I had to edit the  registery to  remove the  key
    > >>>>>>>>>>> to  stop  it  trying to  run at  every boot
    > >>>>>>>>>> Instead of manually editing the registry use the CHKNTFS command to
    > >>>>>>>>>> cancel all scheduled chkdsk and return the machine to default behaviour,
    > >>>>>>>>>> at the command prompt enter the following:
    > >>>>>>>>>> chkntfs /d
    > >>>>>>>>>> You should run the command, this will ensure that the registryvalue is
    > >>>>>>>>>> correct.
    > >>>>>>>>>>> Im seeing  blue- driver-irq-not-less-equ   , with   isator.sys in the
    > >>>>>>>>>>> info  box .. so  would  like to run chkdsk .. but  itwill -not- run
    > >>>>>>>>>>> at boot ... so
    > >>>>>>>>>> I think that you mean:  IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL in iastor.sys....
    > >>>>>>>>>> Go in the BIOS and make sure that the disk controller is not set up as
    > >>>>>>>>>> RAID enabled.
    > >>>>>>>>>>> I can  run  via  chckdsk , via the  command  prompt.....  what is
    > >>>>>>>>>>> the  implication  of  dismounting  drive C ??
    > >>>>>>>>>> Chkdsk cannot dismount the Windows drive, answer Yes and you will get a
    > >>>>>>>>>> second message telling you that much and you will then be asked if you
    > >>>>>>>>>> want to schedule a boot time disk check.
    > >>>>>>>>>> John
    > >>>>>>>>> tnx on the  info  ..  still  not  running  -  cannot find
    > >>>>>>>>> volume ..etc
    > >>>>>>>>> Checked bios
    > >>>>>>>>> ICH SATA = AHCI
    > >>>>>>>>> SATA/IDE = AHCI
    > >>>>>>>> Make and model number of the computer?
    > >>>>>>>> Place the SATA/IDE in IDE (Legacy) mode.
    > >>>>>>>> John- Hide quoted text -
    > >>>>>>>> - Show quoted text -
    > >>>>>>> Tried that, set  bios ,   .drive C , clicked on chkdsk, repair , run
    > >>>>>>> on re-boot , same as before
    > >>>>>>> . Error message , ' cannot  open  volume  for  direct access' ,, then
    > >>>>>>> windows  boots
    > >>>>>> And when Windows boots you get an error message?  What is the *exact*
    > >>>>>> error message?
    > >>>>>> Please try to schedule chkdsk from the Command Prompt, at the prompt
    > >>>>>> enter the following commands, pressing<Enter>    after each:
    > >>>>>> chkntfs /d
    > >>>>>> chkdsk c: /f
    > >>>>>> When ask if you want to dismount the volume answer Yes.  When informed
    > >>>>>> that chkdsk cannot dismount the volume and asked if you want the drive
    > >>>>>> checked on restart answer Yes then reboot the computer.
    > >>>>>> John- Hide quoted text -
    > >>>>>> - Show quoted text -
    > >>>>> Ok J.
    > >>>>> Well  running via the  command  line, the  pc re  booted and  -did
    > >>>>> not- attempt to  run chkdsk , tried  2 times  .. same  , reboot  ,
    > >>>>> direct to  windows  'no' chkdsk
    > >>>>> Chkdsk  via the  'my computer'   checked the  2  tick  boxes , re
    > >>>>> booted , same  error
    > >>>>> checking  file system  .. ntfs
    > >>>>> cannot  open  volume  for  direct access
    > >>>>> then .. windows  boots  normally>
    > >>>> Run  chkdsk /p  from the Recovery Console.
    > >>>> John- Hide quoted text -
    > >>>> - Show quoted text -
    > >>> No  way  ..boot  from  cd , load intel ich10 , boots then blue
    > >>> crash ... So  cannot  actually do  anyhthing
    > >>> Q  what  drivers  would be  needed  to  'roll back'  to revert the pc
    > >>> to the  original  -wrong ide-
    > >>> state ??
    > >>> asks  to  remove  new disk  drivers etc
    > >>> OX0000007B  0XF8D2524  0XC0000034  0X00000000 OX00000000
    > >> It sounds to me like your drive is not in IDE mode (in the BIOS), if
    > >> they were you wouldn't be getting the 0x7b error, this error tells you
    > >> that Windows cannot 'see' the drive controller.  In IDE mode no special
    > >> drivers are required.  The SATA RAID/AHCI Mode should be set to
    > >> disabled, consult your motherboard manual for more help.

    >
    > >> When booting with the CD you will see the message at the bottom of the
    > >> screen very early in the booting process asking you to press F6 to load
    > >> Mass Storage Drivers.  If the drives are in SATA RAID/AHCI Mode you need
    > >> to press F6 and provide the controller drivers on a floppy diskette, the
    > >> setup program will load them then the Recovery Console will be able to
    > >> access the disk and run chkdsk.

    >
    > >> The same problem is happening when Windows tries to do the chkdsk at
    > >> boot time, it can't find the proper drivers for the controller, this is
    > >> because the drivers were not properly installed.  Were the drivers
    > >> installed using the F6 method when Windows was installed?

    >
    > >> John- Hide quoted text -

    >
    > >> - Show quoted text -

    >
    > > Thanks John,

    >
    > > yes the  F6  was used but the  install  'crashed'  it looks like i
    > > have now some  form of  -hybrid- install , with the  sata  drivers
    > > running  - after- the  boot  sequence has compleated ..

    >
    > I think that is your problem with the boot time disk check.
    >
    > > Any  attempt to the  run the  set from the cd now  results in a blue-
    > > screen crash

    >
    > Whenever you boot from the Windows XP cd, be it to install Windows or to
    > access the Recovery Console as long as the drives are in SATA RAID/AHCI
    > Mode you will have to press F6 and supply the controller drivers on a
    > floppy diskette, the drivers are not on the Windows XP CD so you have to
    > supply them for the setup program to see the drive.
    >
    > > Looks like the only  way is to  set the  m-board back to  IDE  .. then
    > > I assume  xp  will
    > > re configure  back to  IDE ?

    >
    > That should work, a lot of folks with these kind of motherboards without
    > floppy diskette and who don't want to create a CD with the drivers
    > incorporated opt for this option and forgo the SATA advantages.
    >
    > > Q trying to  install   'sata' after  windows is installed , looks-
    > > not- to  be  possible .or at the  very  least
    > > needs  quite a  involved  set of reg-dits .. etc ???

    >
    > You can try the information in these search results:http://search.yahoo.com/search;_ylt=A0oG72deEXRMPQgABO6l87UF?p=iastor...
    >
    > Or do a repair install and use the F6 method and supply the proper
    > drivers to the setup program.
    >
    > John- Hide quoted text -
    >
    > - Show quoted text -


    Thanks John,

    Well this is catch-22 , cannot run the rapair function , have
    floppy with drivers , have compiled cd sata driverss (intel and
    cd with gigabyte) .. all do the same thing , blue screen part
    way into boot ..

    > Or do a repair install and use the F6 method and supply the proper
    > drivers to the setup program.


    If the p/c will revert with the m/b set to ide .. will this
    process upgade to sata ?
    assume would need to change the bios at the re-boot stage ,
    from ide > sata

    If so that might be the path ?

    tnx - G.
     
  20. John John - MVP

    John John - MVP Flightless Bird

    Re: CHKDSK 'Ok to decouple C drive?'

    On 8/25/2010 6:35 PM, Graham wrote:
    > On Aug 24, 8:03 pm, John John - MVP<audetw...@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote:
    >> Graham wrote:
    >>> On Aug 23, 1:06 am, John John - MVP<audetw...@nbnot.nb.ca> wrote:
    >>>> On 8/21/2010 9:49 AM, Graham wrote:

    >>
    >>>>> On Aug 21, 4:21 am, John John - MVP<audetw...@nbnot.nb.ca> wrote:
    >>>>>> On 8/20/2010 3:15 PM, Graham wrote:
    >>>>>>> On Aug 20, 4:48 pm, John John - MVP<audetw...@nbnot.nb.ca> wrote:
    >>>>>>>> On 8/20/2010 12:23 PM, Graham wrote:
    >>>>>>>>> On Aug 20, 3:09 pm, John John - MVP<audetw...@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>> Graham wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 20, 2:00 pm, John John - MVP<audetw...@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>> Graham wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 20, 12:21 pm, John John - MVP<audetw...@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Graham wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Trying to run chkdsk , will not run at boot , due to unknown
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sata xp problems
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but using, run , dos cmd , , chkdsk c: /r will run , but asks
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to 'dismount C drive'
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Q what happens if I select -ok- ?
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The operating system is on C .. what happens if its dismounted ..
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will chkdsk -re-mount- after its run .. or is this a one way
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trip ?
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> It will run the next time you boot the computer, just before Windows is
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> loaded.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> John
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> ? John,,, I have some problem with running chkdsk at
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> boot ,chkdsk runs . says cannot access the volume and then
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> windows boots ... I had to edit the registery to remove the key
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> to stop it trying to run at every boot
    >>>>>>>>>>>> Instead of manually editing the registry use the CHKNTFS command to
    >>>>>>>>>>>> cancel all scheduled chkdsk and return the machine to default behaviour,
    >>>>>>>>>>>> at the command prompt enter the following:
    >>>>>>>>>>>> chkntfs /d
    >>>>>>>>>>>> You should run the command, this will ensure that the registry value is
    >>>>>>>>>>>> correct.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> Im seeing blue- driver-irq-not-less-equ , with isator.sys in the
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> info box .. so would like to run chkdsk .. but it will -not- run
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> at boot ... so
    >>>>>>>>>>>> I think that you mean: IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL in iastor.sys...
    >>>>>>>>>>>> Go in the BIOS and make sure that the disk controller is not set up as
    >>>>>>>>>>>> RAID enabled.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> I can run via chckdsk , via the command prompt ..... what is
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> the implication of dismounting drive C ??
    >>>>>>>>>>>> Chkdsk cannot dismount the Windows drive, answer Yes and you will get a
    >>>>>>>>>>>> second message telling you that much and you will then be asked if you
    >>>>>>>>>>>> want to schedule a boot time disk check.
    >>>>>>>>>>>> John
    >>>>>>>>>>> tnx on the info .. still not running - cannot find
    >>>>>>>>>>> volume ..etc
    >>>>>>>>>>> Checked bios
    >>>>>>>>>>> ICH SATA = AHCI
    >>>>>>>>>>> SATA/IDE = AHCI
    >>>>>>>>>> Make and model number of the computer?
    >>>>>>>>>> Place the SATA/IDE in IDE (Legacy) mode.
    >>>>>>>>>> John- Hide quoted text -
    >>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text -
    >>>>>>>>> Tried that, set bios , .drive C , clicked on chkdsk, repair , run
    >>>>>>>>> on re-boot , same as before
    >>>>>>>>> . Error message , ' cannot open volume for direct access' ,, then
    >>>>>>>>> windows boots
    >>>>>>>> And when Windows boots you get an error message? What is the *exact*
    >>>>>>>> error message?
    >>>>>>>> Please try to schedule chkdsk from the Command Prompt, at the prompt
    >>>>>>>> enter the following commands, pressing<Enter> after each:
    >>>>>>>> chkntfs /d
    >>>>>>>> chkdsk c: /f
    >>>>>>>> When ask if you want to dismount the volume answer Yes. When informed
    >>>>>>>> that chkdsk cannot dismount the volume and asked if you want the drive
    >>>>>>>> checked on restart answer Yes then reboot the computer.
    >>>>>>>> John- Hide quoted text -
    >>>>>>>> - Show quoted text -
    >>>>>>> Ok J.
    >>>>>>> Well running via the command line, the pc re booted and -did
    >>>>>>> not- attempt to run chkdsk , tried 2 times .. same , re boot ,
    >>>>>>> direct to windows 'no' chkdsk
    >>>>>>> Chkdsk via the 'my computer' checked the 2 tick boxes , re
    >>>>>>> booted , same error
    >>>>>>> checking file system .. ntfs
    >>>>>>> cannot open volume for direct access
    >>>>>>> then .. windows boots normally>
    >>>>>> Run chkdsk /p from the Recovery Console.
    >>>>>> John- Hide quoted text -
    >>>>>> - Show quoted text -
    >>>>> No way ..boot from cd , load intel ich10 , boots then blue
    >>>>> crash ... So cannot actually do anyhthing
    >>>>> Q what drivers would be needed to 'roll back' to revert the pc
    >>>>> to the original -wrong ide-
    >>>>> state ??
    >>>>> asks to remove new disk drivers etc
    >>>>> OX0000007B 0XF8D2524 0XC0000034 0X00000000 OX00000000
    >>>> It sounds to me like your drive is not in IDE mode (in the BIOS), if
    >>>> they were you wouldn't be getting the 0x7b error, this error tells you
    >>>> that Windows cannot 'see' the drive controller. In IDE mode no special
    >>>> drivers are required. The SATA RAID/AHCI Mode should be set to
    >>>> disabled, consult your motherboard manual for more help.

    >>
    >>>> When booting with the CD you will see the message at the bottom of the
    >>>> screen very early in the booting process asking you to press F6 to load
    >>>> Mass Storage Drivers. If the drives are in SATA RAID/AHCI Mode you need
    >>>> to press F6 and provide the controller drivers on a floppy diskette, the
    >>>> setup program will load them then the Recovery Console will be able to
    >>>> access the disk and run chkdsk.

    >>
    >>>> The same problem is happening when Windows tries to do the chkdsk at
    >>>> boot time, it can't find the proper drivers for the controller, this is
    >>>> because the drivers were not properly installed. Were the drivers
    >>>> installed using the F6 method when Windows was installed?

    >>
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    >>
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    >>
    >>> Thanks John,

    >>
    >>> yes the F6 was used but the install 'crashed' it looks like i
    >>> have now some form of -hybrid- install , with the sata drivers
    >>> running - after- the boot sequence has compleated ..

    >>
    >> I think that is your problem with the boot time disk check.
    >>
    >>> Any attempt to the run the set from the cd now results in a blue-
    >>> screen crash

    >>
    >> Whenever you boot from the Windows XP cd, be it to install Windows or to
    >> access the Recovery Console as long as the drives are in SATA RAID/AHCI
    >> Mode you will have to press F6 and supply the controller drivers on a
    >> floppy diskette, the drivers are not on the Windows XP CD so you have to
    >> supply them for the setup program to see the drive.
    >>
    >>> Looks like the only way is to set the m-board back to IDE .. then
    >>> I assume xp will
    >>> re configure back to IDE ?

    >>
    >> That should work, a lot of folks with these kind of motherboards without
    >> floppy diskette and who don't want to create a CD with the drivers
    >> incorporated opt for this option and forgo the SATA advantages.
    >>
    >>> Q trying to install 'sata' after windows is installed , looks -
    >>> not- to be possible .or at the very least
    >>> needs quite a involved set of reg-dits .. etc ???

    >>
    >> You can try the information in these search results:http://search.yahoo.com/search;_ylt=A0oG72deEXRMPQgABO6l87UF?p=iastor...
    >>
    >> Or do a repair install and use the F6 method and supply the proper
    >> drivers to the setup program.
    >>
    >> John- Hide quoted text -
    >>
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    >
    > Thanks John,
    >
    > Well this is catch-22 , cannot run the rapair function , have
    > floppy with drivers , have compiled cd sata driverss (intel and
    > cd with gigabyte) .. all do the same thing , blue screen part
    > way into boot ..


    Are you pressing the F6 key early enough and are you being asked to
    insert the floppy diskette in the drive? I can only surmise that the
    drivers are not the right ones or that they are not properly unpacked on
    the diskette or that they are not properly slipstreamed on your cd.


    >> Or do a repair install and use the F6 method and supply the proper
    >> drivers to the setup program.

    >
    > If the p/c will revert with the m/b set to ide .. will this
    > process upgade to sata ?


    No, it will set the drive to run in IDE mode, they will run as IDE
    drives and Windows should have no problem seeing them properly, Windows
    will use standard IDE drivers.


    > assume would need to change the bios at the re-boot stage ,
    > from ide> sata


    You can change them to IDE and leave them there or you can have them on
    IDE and still use the F6 method to install the additional SATA
    controller drivers, even if there are no SATA drives Windows can still
    install the drivers for them. Then if you later switch the drive back
    to SATA the Windows installation will have the drivers preinstalled and
    it should be able to boot the drive in SATA mode, if it doesn't you just
    change them back to IDE mode.

    John
     

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