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Checking windows startup programs without restarting

Discussion in 'Windows XP' started by karthikbalaguru, Jan 15, 2010.

  1. karthikbalaguru

    karthikbalaguru Flightless Bird

    Hi,
    The query may sound bit crazy,
    I am just eager to know if there
    is a method to check if the
    programs are executed in
    desired sequence during the
    startup of the windows without
    actually restarting windows ?

    Should i need to restart for
    sure to check it ?

    Thx in advans,
    Karthik Balaguru
     
  2. db

    db Flightless Bird

    personally, I think that you can't
    figure out which programs start
    in a certain order.

    perhaps the order of the icons
    next to the clock may provide
    some idea.

    however, you can manipulate
    the order if you need to.

    keep in mind that you have
    a startup folder under programs.

    by moving programs to it, they
    will launch after the auto runs
    found in the msconfig.

    then to launch programs after
    those in the startup, you can
    manually start them.

    so as you can see by the above
    there are three levels in which
    programs can be executed.

    1) via msconfig
    2) via the startup folder
    3) manually

    incidentally, there is a utility
    that can help view the auto runs
    that occur at login.

    it is called "autoruns" and can
    be downloaded from microsoft.com


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    "karthikbalaguru" <karthikbalaguru79@gmail.com> wrote in message
    news:a0555366-0e87-4668-a20b-5150331c1cd0@m26g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
    > Hi,
    > The query may sound bit crazy,
    > I am just eager to know if there
    > is a method to check if the
    > programs are executed in
    > desired sequence during the
    > startup of the windows without
    > actually restarting windows ?
    >
    > Should i need to restart for
    > sure to check it ?
    >
    > Thx in advans,
    > Karthik Balaguru
     
  3. Lem

    Lem Flightless Bird

    karthikbalaguru wrote:
    > Hi,
    > The query may sound bit crazy,
    > I am just eager to know if there
    > is a method to check if the
    > programs are executed in
    > desired sequence during the
    > startup of the windows without
    > actually restarting windows ?
    >
    > Should i need to restart for
    > sure to check it ?
    >
    > Thx in advans,
    > Karthik Balaguru


    There are several different locations from which Windows starts
    programs. See http://windowsxp.mvps.org/Startup.htm

    In general, you can't get things to start in a desired sequence unless
    you do it yourself through a batch job or other utility, and even then,
    many system applications are out of user control.



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  4. karthikbalaguru

    karthikbalaguru Flightless Bird

    On Jan 15, 10:23 pm, Lem <lemp40@unknownhost> wrote:
    > karthikbalaguru wrote:
    > > Hi,
    > > The query may sound bit crazy,
    > > I am just eager to know if there
    > > is a method to check if the
    > > programs are executed in
    > > desired sequence during the
    > > startup of the windows without
    > > actually restarting windows ?

    >
    > > Should i need to restart for
    > > sure to check it ?

    >
    > > Thx in advans,
    > > Karthik Balaguru

    >
    > There are several different locations from which Windows starts
    > programs. Seehttp://windowsxp.mvps.org/Startup.htm
    >
    > In general, you can't get things to start in a desired sequence unless
    > you do it yourself through a batch job or other utility, and even then,
    > many system applications are out of user control.
    >


    I agree that batch file is the best
    approach to tell the sequence of
    execution of the application in our
    desired manner.

    Yes, there are some other system
    apps that might also get executed
    inbetween :-( . How to track the
    sequence of execution of various
    apps/process during the windows
    startup ?

    But,do Windows autoruns or any other
    tool provide the order of priority of
    execution of the programs during the
    startup of windows that would also
    include the sytem apps in it ?
    Any ideas ?

    Thx in advans,
    Karthik Balaguru
     
  5. dadiOH

    dadiOH Flightless Bird

    karthikbalaguru wrote:
    > On Jan 15, 10:23 pm, Lem <lemp40@unknownhost> wrote:
    >> karthikbalaguru wrote:
    >>> Hi,
    >>> The query may sound bit crazy,
    >>> I am just eager to know if there
    >>> is a method to check if the
    >>> programs are executed in
    >>> desired sequence during the
    >>> startup of the windows without
    >>> actually restarting windows ?

    >>
    >>> Should i need to restart for
    >>> sure to check it ?

    >>
    >>> Thx in advans,
    >>> Karthik Balaguru

    >>
    >> There are several different locations from which Windows starts
    >> programs. Seehttp://windowsxp.mvps.org/Startup.htm
    >>
    >> In general, you can't get things to start in a desired sequence
    >> unless you do it yourself through a batch job or other utility, and
    >> even then, many system applications are out of user control.
    >>

    >
    > I agree that batch file is the best
    > approach to tell the sequence of
    > execution of the application in our
    > desired manner.
    >
    > Yes, there are some other system
    > apps that might also get executed
    > inbetween :-( . How to track the
    > sequence of execution of various
    > apps/process during the windows
    > startup ?


    Perhaps enable boot logging from the start up menu?

    "Starts while logging all the drivers and services that were loaded (or not
    loaded) by the system to a file. This file is called ntbtlog.txt and it is
    located in the %windir% directory. Safe Mode, Safe Mode with Networking, and
    Safe Mode with Command Prompt add to the boot log a list of all the drivers
    and services that are loaded. The boot log is useful in determining the
    exact cause of system startup problems."

    --

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  6. karthikbalaguru

    karthikbalaguru Flightless Bird

    On Jan 15, 11:44 pm, karthikbalaguru <karthikbalagur...@gmail.com>
    wrote:
    > On Jan 15, 10:23 pm, Lem <lemp40@unknownhost> wrote:
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > > karthikbalaguru wrote:
    > > > Hi,
    > > > The query may sound bit crazy,
    > > > I am just eager to know if there
    > > > is a method to check if the
    > > > programs are executed in
    > > > desired sequence during the
    > > > startup of the windows without
    > > > actually restarting windows ?

    >
    > > > Should i need to restart for
    > > > sure to check it ?

    >
    > > > Thx in advans,
    > > > Karthik Balaguru

    >
    > > There are several different locations from which Windows starts
    > > programs. Seehttp://windowsxp.mvps.org/Startup.htm

    >
    > > In general, you can't get things to start in a desired sequence unless
    > > you do it yourself through a batch job or other utility, and even then,
    > > many system applications are out of user control.

    >
    > I agree that batch file is the best
    > approach to tell the sequence of
    > execution of the application in our
    > desired manner.
    >
    > Yes, there are some other system
    > apps that might also get executed
    > inbetween :-( . How to track the
    > sequence of execution of various
    > apps/process during the windows
    > startup ?
    >


    I checked the below link(autoruns) -
    http://technet.microsoft.com/hi-in/sysinternals/bb963902(en-us).aspx

    It seems that it is not required to
    use msconfig or edit Windows Registry
    to edit modify any of the stuff.

    It shows the programs that are
    configured to run during system
    bootup or login.

    autoruns has a -l option(Logon startups
    by default) that can be used to log
    the sequence of programs that startup.

    > But,do Windows autoruns or any other
    > tool provide the order of priority of
    > execution of the programs during the
    > startup of windows that would also
    > include the sytem apps in it ?
    > Any ideas ?
    >


    I got the below link regd this -
    http://www.windowsreference.com/fre...ck-all-startups-on-your-windows-pc-or-server/
    It seems that it shows the entries
    in the order Windows processes
    them :)
    These programs include those in the
    startup folder, Run, RunOnce, and
    other Registry keys.

    But, not sure if it gives a list of
    system apps that get called
    in between ( that are out of
    user control ) ! Any ideas ?

    Karthik Balaguru
     
  7. karthikbalaguru

    karthikbalaguru Flightless Bird

    On Jan 16, 12:15 am, "dadiOH" <dad...@invalid.com> wrote:
    > karthikbalaguru wrote:
    > > On Jan 15, 10:23 pm, Lem <lemp40@unknownhost> wrote:
    > >> karthikbalaguru wrote:
    > >>> Hi,
    > >>> The query may sound bit crazy,
    > >>> I am just eager to know if there
    > >>> is a method to check if the
    > >>> programs are executed in
    > >>> desired sequence during the
    > >>> startup of the windows without
    > >>> actually restarting windows ?

    >
    > >>> Should i need to restart for
    > >>> sure to check it ?

    >
    > >>> Thx in advans,
    > >>> Karthik Balaguru

    >
    > >> There are several different locations from which Windows starts
    > >> programs. Seehttp://windowsxp.mvps.org/Startup.htm

    >
    > >> In general, you can't get things to start in a desired sequence
    > >> unless you do it yourself through a batch job or other utility, and
    > >> even then, many system applications are out of user control.

    >
    > > I agree that batch file is the best
    > > approach to tell the sequence of
    > > execution of the application in our
    > > desired manner.

    >
    > > Yes, there are some other system
    > > apps that might also get executed
    > > inbetween :-( . How to track the
    > > sequence of execution of various
    > > apps/process during the windows
    > > startup ?

    >
    > Perhaps enable boot logging from the start up menu?
    >
    > "Starts while logging all the drivers and services that were loaded (or not
    > loaded) by the system to a file. This file is called ntbtlog.txt and it is
    > located in the %windir% directory. Safe Mode, Safe Mode with Networking, and
    > Safe Mode with Command Prompt add to the boot log a list of all the drivers
    > and services that are loaded. The boot log is useful in determining the
    > exact cause of system startup problems."
    >


    Great !
    Log is surely a way to analyze
    and understand the sequence !

    1. Based on your post, i searched
    the internet regd bootlog anlalyzer
    and got the below link -
    http://www.greatis.com/webhelp/regr...s/bootlog_analyser/using_bootlog_analyser.htm

    But, it does not seem to convey
    the order of priority of system
    apps(Not under user control)
    during boot up .

    2. I came across the below link,
    http://www.greatis.com/utilities/bootlogxp/
    In the above link, Boot Log XP
    creates a new boot log file and
    allows you to view it visually !

    I think the above tool (Boot Log XP)
    lists the priority of execution(during
    windows startup/boot process) of
    all the programs including the system
    apps that are not under user control.

    Thx in advans,
    Karthik Balaguru
     
  8. dadiOH

    dadiOH Flightless Bird

    karthikbalaguru wrote:

    > I got the below link regd this -
    > http://www.windowsreference.com/fre...ck-all-startups-on-your-windows-pc-or-server/
    > It seems that it shows the entries
    > in the order Windows processes
    > them :)
    > These programs include those in the
    > startup folder, Run, RunOnce, and
    > other Registry keys.
    >
    > But, not sure if it gives a list of
    > system apps that get called
    > in between ( that are out of
    > user control ) ! Any ideas ?


    Not me, I shot my wad with enabling boot logging :)

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