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CCleaner use on Registry ??

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Bruce Hagen

Flightless Bird
Re: CCleaner use on Registry ??

"SC Tom" <sc@tom.net> wrote in message
news:-Ovc5hcylKHA.1648@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>
>
> "Daave" <daave@example.com> wrote in message
> news:-OG$jf4vlKHA.2780@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> SC Tom wrote:
>>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:#2FA9MulKHA.5656@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>> SC Tom wrote:
>>>>> Can anyone tell me any registry cleaner I can run that will delete
>>>>> system files or other files without my knowledge/consent that will
>>>>> leave my system unbootable when it is done?
>>>>
>>>> OneCare & Windows Live Safety Center online scans.
>>>>
>>>>> Can anyone provide an example (not a rumor) of any Windows function
>>>>> that works and then after a registry cleaner, the function does not
>>>>> work anymore?...
>>>>
>>>> How about the thousands of users who ended up with horked installs of
>>>> Office after running a Windows Live Safety Center scan?
>>>>
>>>>> Can anyone provide an example (not a rumor) of how running a
>>>>> registry cleaner will make my system worse than before I started
>>>>> (timings are good).
>>>>
>>>> See above. Also see this discussion:
>>>> http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?t=28099
>>>>
>>>
>>> I didn't ask that; Jose did. My reply is at the bottom of that post
>>> :)
>>
>> That is frustrating! I hate when that happens! :)
>>
>> If you look at the attribution levels in your post, I can see how PA
>> Bear thought those were your words. This confusion is the result of two
>> things that don't play well with Usenet:
>>
>> 1. Jose posted from Google Groups, which appearently uses the incorrect
>> Quoted Printable format.
>>
>> 2. You responded to Jose's problematic post (in that it is in the QP
>> format) using a news reader (Outlook Express, usually, but Windows Live
>> Mail in your case) that has difficulty allowing for this kind of
>> situation. I also use OE, but since I also use Quote-Fix, the
>> attribution levels are shifted to where they should be (that is, if I
>> were replying directly to Jose). Notice John John's reply to Jose. Its
>> attribution marks are where they should be, too (he uses Thunderbird).
>>
>
> That was why I placed a line of equal signs between the end of his post
> and mine. Guess I should have explained what that was for, or made a
> note like <end post> <reply start>.
> Tried T'bird- didn't like it. I've never heard of Quote-Fix. I'll have
> to look that up.
> --
> SC Tom
>
>


OE-QuoteFix:
http://home.in.tum.de/~jain/software/oe-quotefix/
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP [Mail]
Imperial Beach, CA
 
S

SC Tom

Flightless Bird
Re: CCleaner use on Registry ??

"Bruce Hagen" <Nospam@mymail.invalid> wrote in message
news:uat8FgylKHA.4772@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>
> "SC Tom" <sc@tom.net> wrote in message
> news:-Ovc5hcylKHA.1648@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>
>>
>> "Daave" <daave@example.com> wrote in message
>> news:-OG$jf4vlKHA.2780@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> SC Tom wrote:
>>>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:#2FA9MulKHA.5656@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>> SC Tom wrote:
>>>>>> Can anyone tell me any registry cleaner I can run that will delete
>>>>>> system files or other files without my knowledge/consent that will
>>>>>> leave my system unbootable when it is done?
>>>>>
>>>>> OneCare & Windows Live Safety Center online scans.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Can anyone provide an example (not a rumor) of any Windows function
>>>>>> that works and then after a registry cleaner, the function does not
>>>>>> work anymore?...
>>>>>
>>>>> How about the thousands of users who ended up with horked installs of
>>>>> Office after running a Windows Live Safety Center scan?
>>>>>
>>>>>> Can anyone provide an example (not a rumor) of how running a
>>>>>> registry cleaner will make my system worse than before I started
>>>>>> (timings are good).
>>>>>
>>>>> See above. Also see this discussion:
>>>>> http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?t=28099
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I didn't ask that; Jose did. My reply is at the bottom of that post
>>>> :)
>>>
>>> That is frustrating! I hate when that happens! :)
>>>
>>> If you look at the attribution levels in your post, I can see how PA
>>> Bear thought those were your words. This confusion is the result of two
>>> things that don't play well with Usenet:
>>>
>>> 1. Jose posted from Google Groups, which appearently uses the incorrect
>>> Quoted Printable format.
>>>
>>> 2. You responded to Jose's problematic post (in that it is in the QP
>>> format) using a news reader (Outlook Express, usually, but Windows Live
>>> Mail in your case) that has difficulty allowing for this kind of
>>> situation. I also use OE, but since I also use Quote-Fix, the
>>> attribution levels are shifted to where they should be (that is, if I
>>> were replying directly to Jose). Notice John John's reply to Jose. Its
>>> attribution marks are where they should be, too (he uses Thunderbird).
>>>
>>
>> That was why I placed a line of equal signs between the end of his post
>> and mine. Guess I should have explained what that was for, or made a note
>> like <end post> <reply start>.
>> Tried T'bird- didn't like it. I've never heard of Quote-Fix. I'll have to
>> look that up.
>> --
>> SC Tom
>>
>>
>
>
> OE-QuoteFix:
> http://home.in.tum.de/~jain/software/oe-quotefix/
> --
> Bruce Hagen
> MS-MVP [Mail]
> Imperial Beach, CA
>

Thanks, I had just installed it. Even though it's for OE, it appears to work
in WLM, too.
Thanks!
--
SC Tom
 
B

Bruce Hagen

Flightless Bird
Re: CCleaner use on Registry ??

"SC Tom" <sc@tom.net> wrote in message
news:uk1nZkylKHA.1648@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>
>
> "Bruce Hagen" <Nospam@mymail.invalid> wrote in message
> news:uat8FgylKHA.4772@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>
>> "SC Tom" <sc@tom.net> wrote in message
>> news:-Ovc5hcylKHA.1648@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>
>>>
>>> "Daave" <daave@example.com> wrote in message
>>> news:-OG$jf4vlKHA.2780@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>> SC Tom wrote:
>>>>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:#2FA9MulKHA.5656@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> SC Tom wrote:
>>>>>>> Can anyone tell me any registry cleaner I can run that will delete
>>>>>>> system files or other files without my knowledge/consent that will
>>>>>>> leave my system unbootable when it is done?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> OneCare & Windows Live Safety Center online scans.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Can anyone provide an example (not a rumor) of any Windows
>>>>>>> function
>>>>>>> that works and then after a registry cleaner, the function does
>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>> work anymore?...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How about the thousands of users who ended up with horked installs
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> Office after running a Windows Live Safety Center scan?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Can anyone provide an example (not a rumor) of how running a
>>>>>>> registry cleaner will make my system worse than before I started
>>>>>>> (timings are good).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> See above. Also see this discussion:
>>>>>> http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?t=28099
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I didn't ask that; Jose did. My reply is at the bottom of that post
>>>>> :)
>>>>
>>>> That is frustrating! I hate when that happens! :)
>>>>
>>>> If you look at the attribution levels in your post, I can see how PA
>>>> Bear thought those were your words. This confusion is the result of
>>>> two things that don't play well with Usenet:
>>>>
>>>> 1. Jose posted from Google Groups, which appearently uses the
>>>> incorrect Quoted Printable format.
>>>>
>>>> 2. You responded to Jose's problematic post (in that it is in the QP
>>>> format) using a news reader (Outlook Express, usually, but Windows
>>>> Live Mail in your case) that has difficulty allowing for this kind of
>>>> situation. I also use OE, but since I also use Quote-Fix, the
>>>> attribution levels are shifted to where they should be (that is, if I
>>>> were replying directly to Jose). Notice John John's reply to Jose.
>>>> Its attribution marks are where they should be, too (he uses
>>>> Thunderbird).
>>>>
>>>
>>> That was why I placed a line of equal signs between the end of his
>>> post and mine. Guess I should have explained what that was for, or
>>> made a note like <end post> <reply start>.
>>> Tried T'bird- didn't like it. I've never heard of Quote-Fix. I'll have
>>> to look that up.
>>> --
>>> SC Tom
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> OE-QuoteFix:
>> http://home.in.tum.de/~jain/software/oe-quotefix/
>> --
>> Bruce Hagen
>> MS-MVP [Mail]
>> Imperial Beach, CA
>>
>
> Thanks, I had just installed it. Even though it's for OE, it appears to
> work in WLM, too.
> Thanks!
> --
> SC Tom
>
>


YW. Let me know how it turns out. I wasn't following the thread that close
and didn't realize you have WLMail. I'd be interested to know if it is
functional with WLMail.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP [Mail]
Imperial Beach, CA
 
S

SC Tom

Flightless Bird
Re: CCleaner use on Registry ??

"Bruce Hagen" <Nospam@mymail.invalid> wrote in message
news:u#f27qylKHA.3792@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>
> "SC Tom" <sc@tom.net> wrote in message
> news:uk1nZkylKHA.1648@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>
>>
>> "Bruce Hagen" <Nospam@mymail.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:uat8FgylKHA.4772@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>
>>> "SC Tom" <sc@tom.net> wrote in message
>>> news:-Ovc5hcylKHA.1648@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Daave" <daave@example.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:-OG$jf4vlKHA.2780@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>> SC Tom wrote:
>>>>>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:#2FA9MulKHA.5656@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>> SC Tom wrote:
>>>>>>>> Can anyone tell me any registry cleaner I can run that will delete
>>>>>>>> system files or other files without my knowledge/consent that will
>>>>>>>> leave my system unbootable when it is done?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> OneCare & Windows Live Safety Center online scans.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Can anyone provide an example (not a rumor) of any Windows function
>>>>>>>> that works and then after a registry cleaner, the function does not
>>>>>>>> work anymore?...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> How about the thousands of users who ended up with horked installs
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> Office after running a Windows Live Safety Center scan?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Can anyone provide an example (not a rumor) of how running a
>>>>>>>> registry cleaner will make my system worse than before I started
>>>>>>>> (timings are good).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> See above. Also see this discussion:
>>>>>>> http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?t=28099
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I didn't ask that; Jose did. My reply is at the bottom of that post
>>>>>> :)
>>>>>
>>>>> That is frustrating! I hate when that happens! :)
>>>>>
>>>>> If you look at the attribution levels in your post, I can see how PA
>>>>> Bear thought those were your words. This confusion is the result of
>>>>> two things that don't play well with Usenet:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. Jose posted from Google Groups, which appearently uses the
>>>>> incorrect Quoted Printable format.
>>>>>
>>>>> 2. You responded to Jose's problematic post (in that it is in the QP
>>>>> format) using a news reader (Outlook Express, usually, but Windows
>>>>> Live Mail in your case) that has difficulty allowing for this kind of
>>>>> situation. I also use OE, but since I also use Quote-Fix, the
>>>>> attribution levels are shifted to where they should be (that is, if I
>>>>> were replying directly to Jose). Notice John John's reply to Jose. Its
>>>>> attribution marks are where they should be, too (he uses Thunderbird).
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> That was why I placed a line of equal signs between the end of his post
>>>> and mine. Guess I should have explained what that was for, or made a
>>>> note like <end post> <reply start>.
>>>> Tried T'bird- didn't like it. I've never heard of Quote-Fix. I'll have
>>>> to look that up.
>>>> --
>>>> SC Tom
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> OE-QuoteFix:
>>> http://home.in.tum.de/~jain/software/oe-quotefix/
>>> --
>>> Bruce Hagen
>>> MS-MVP [Mail]
>>> Imperial Beach, CA
>>>
>>
>> Thanks, I had just installed it. Even though it's for OE, it appears to
>> work in WLM, too.
>> Thanks!
>> --
>> SC Tom
>>
>>
>
>
> YW. Let me know how it turns out. I wasn't following the thread that close
> and didn't realize you have WLMail. I'd be interested to know if it is
> functional with WLMail.
> --
> Bruce Hagen
> MS-MVP [Mail]
> Imperial Beach, CA
>

I sent a reply to Jose's post to myself, and the reply marks ">" were
there. I haven't looked into any of the other aspects of the program since
that was all I am needing for now. I guess I'll just put a shortcut to the
stand-alone version (since OE doesn't run on Win7) and see how that goes for
me.
--
SC Tom
 
B

Bruce Hagen

Flightless Bird
Re: CCleaner use on Registry ??

"SC Tom" <sc@tom.net> wrote in message
news:eWy2IxylKHA.3840@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>
>
> "Bruce Hagen" <Nospam@mymail.invalid> wrote in message
> news:u#f27qylKHA.3792@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>
>> "SC Tom" <sc@tom.net> wrote in message
>> news:uk1nZkylKHA.1648@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>
>>>
>>> "Bruce Hagen" <Nospam@mymail.invalid> wrote in message
>>> news:uat8FgylKHA.4772@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>
>>>> "SC Tom" <sc@tom.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:-Ovc5hcylKHA.1648@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Daave" <daave@example.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:-OG$jf4vlKHA.2780@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> SC Tom wrote:
>>>>>>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:#2FA9MulKHA.5656@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>> SC Tom wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Can anyone tell me any registry cleaner I can run that will
>>>>>>>>> delete
>>>>>>>>> system files or other files without my knowledge/consent that
>>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>> leave my system unbootable when it is done?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> OneCare & Windows Live Safety Center online scans.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Can anyone provide an example (not a rumor) of any Windows
>>>>>>>>> function
>>>>>>>>> that works and then after a registry cleaner, the function does
>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>> work anymore?...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> How about the thousands of users who ended up with horked
>>>>>>>> installs of
>>>>>>>> Office after running a Windows Live Safety Center scan?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Can anyone provide an example (not a rumor) of how running a
>>>>>>>>> registry cleaner will make my system worse than before I started
>>>>>>>>> (timings are good).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> See above. Also see this discussion:
>>>>>>>> http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?t=28099
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I didn't ask that; Jose did. My reply is at the bottom of that
>>>>>>> post
>>>>>>> :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That is frustrating! I hate when that happens! :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you look at the attribution levels in your post, I can see how
>>>>>> PA Bear thought those were your words. This confusion is the result
>>>>>> of two things that don't play well with Usenet:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1. Jose posted from Google Groups, which appearently uses the
>>>>>> incorrect Quoted Printable format.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2. You responded to Jose's problematic post (in that it is in the
>>>>>> QP format) using a news reader (Outlook Express, usually, but
>>>>>> Windows Live Mail in your case) that has difficulty allowing for
>>>>>> this kind of situation. I also use OE, but since I also use
>>>>>> Quote-Fix, the attribution levels are shifted to where they should
>>>>>> be (that is, if I were replying directly to Jose). Notice John
>>>>>> John's reply to Jose. Its attribution marks are where they should
>>>>>> be, too (he uses Thunderbird).
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> That was why I placed a line of equal signs between the end of his
>>>>> post and mine. Guess I should have explained what that was for, or
>>>>> made a note like <end post> <reply start>.
>>>>> Tried T'bird- didn't like it. I've never heard of Quote-Fix. I'll
>>>>> have to look that up.
>>>>> --
>>>>> SC Tom
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> OE-QuoteFix:
>>>> http://home.in.tum.de/~jain/software/oe-quotefix/
>>>> --
>>>> Bruce Hagen
>>>> MS-MVP [Mail]
>>>> Imperial Beach, CA
>>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks, I had just installed it. Even though it's for OE, it appears
>>> to work in WLM, too.
>>> Thanks!
>>> --
>>> SC Tom
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> YW. Let me know how it turns out. I wasn't following the thread that
>> close and didn't realize you have WLMail. I'd be interested to know if
>> it is functional with WLMail.
>> --
>> Bruce Hagen
>> MS-MVP [Mail]
>> Imperial Beach, CA
>>
>
> I sent a reply to Jose's post to myself, and the reply marks ">" were
> there. I haven't looked into any of the other aspects of the program
> since that was all I am needing for now. I guess I'll just put a
> shortcut to the stand-alone version (since OE doesn't run on Win7) and
> see how that goes for me.
> --
> SC Tom
>
>

Thanks for the feedback.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP [Mail]
Imperial Beach, CA
 
D

Daave

Flightless Bird
Re: CCleaner use on Registry ??

SC Tom wrote:
> "Bruce Hagen" <Nospam@mymail.invalid> wrote in message
> news:u#f27qylKHA.3792@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>
>> "SC Tom" <sc@tom.net> wrote in message
>> news:uk1nZkylKHA.1648@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>
>>>
>>> "Bruce Hagen" <Nospam@mymail.invalid> wrote in message
>>> news:uat8FgylKHA.4772@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>
>>>> "SC Tom" <sc@tom.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:-Ovc5hcylKHA.1648@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Daave" <daave@example.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:-OG$jf4vlKHA.2780@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> SC Tom wrote:
>>>>>>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:#2FA9MulKHA.5656@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>> SC Tom wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Can anyone tell me any registry cleaner I can run that will
>>>>>>>>> delete system files or other files without my
>>>>>>>>> knowledge/consent that will leave my system unbootable when
>>>>>>>>> it is done?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> OneCare & Windows Live Safety Center online scans.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Can anyone provide an example (not a rumor) of any Windows
>>>>>>>>> function that works and then after a registry cleaner, the
>>>>>>>>> function does not work anymore?...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> How about the thousands of users who ended up with horked
>>>>>>>> installs of
>>>>>>>> Office after running a Windows Live Safety Center scan?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Can anyone provide an example (not a rumor) of how running a
>>>>>>>>> registry cleaner will make my system worse than before I
>>>>>>>>> started (timings are good).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> See above. Also see this discussion:
>>>>>>>> http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?t=28099
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I didn't ask that; Jose did. My reply is at the bottom of that
>>>>>>> post :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That is frustrating! I hate when that happens! :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you look at the attribution levels in your post, I can see
>>>>>> how PA Bear thought those were your words. This confusion is the
>>>>>> result of two things that don't play well with Usenet:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1. Jose posted from Google Groups, which appearently uses the
>>>>>> incorrect Quoted Printable format.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2. You responded to Jose's problematic post (in that it is in
>>>>>> the QP format) using a news reader (Outlook Express, usually,
>>>>>> but Windows Live Mail in your case) that has difficulty allowing
>>>>>> for this kind of situation. I also use OE, but since I also use
>>>>>> Quote-Fix, the attribution levels are shifted to where they
>>>>>> should be (that is, if I were replying directly to Jose). Notice
>>>>>> John John's reply to Jose. Its attribution marks are where they
>>>>>> should be, too (he uses Thunderbird).
>>>>>
>>>>> That was why I placed a line of equal signs between the end of
>>>>> his post and mine. Guess I should have explained what that was
>>>>> for, or made a note like <end post> <reply start>.
>>>>> Tried T'bird- didn't like it. I've never heard of Quote-Fix. I'll
>>>>> have to look that up.
>>>>> --
>>>>> SC Tom
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> OE-QuoteFix:
>>>> http://home.in.tum.de/~jain/software/oe-quotefix/
>>>> --
>>>> Bruce Hagen
>>>> MS-MVP [Mail]
>>>> Imperial Beach, CA
>>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks, I had just installed it. Even though it's for OE, it
>>> appears to work in WLM, too.
>>> Thanks!
>>> --
>>> SC Tom
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> YW. Let me know how it turns out. I wasn't following the thread that
>> close and didn't realize you have WLMail. I'd be interested to know
>> if it is functional with WLMail.
>> --
>> Bruce Hagen
>> MS-MVP [Mail]
>> Imperial Beach, CA
>>
>
> I sent a reply to Jose's post to myself, and the reply marks ">" were
> there. I haven't looked into any of the other aspects of the program
> since that was all I am needing for now. I guess I'll just put a
> shortcut to the stand-alone version (since OE doesn't run on Win7)
> and see how that goes for me.

Good to know that QF works with WLM. Thanks for letting us know, Tom.

I've never used any of OE's successors. What seem to be the significant
changes?
 
P

PA Bear [MS MVP]

Flightless Bird
Re: CCleaner use on Registry ??

I've plonked Jose so I hadda reply to your post. <w>

SC Tom wrote:
> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:#2FA9MulKHA.5656@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> SC Tom wrote:
>>> Can anyone tell me any registry cleaner I can run that will delete
>>> system files or other files without my knowledge/consent that will
>>> leave my system unbootable when it is done?
>>
>> OneCare & Windows Live Safety Center online scans.
>>
>>> Can anyone provide an example (not a rumor) of any Windows function
>>> that works and then after a registry cleaner, the function does not
>>> work anymore?...
>>
>> How about the thousands of users who ended up with horked installs of
>> Office after running a Windows Live Safety Center scan?
>>
>>> Can anyone provide an example (not a rumor) of how running a registry
>>> cleaner will make my system worse than before I started (timings are
>>> good).
>>
>> See above. Also see this discussion:
>> http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?t=28099
>>
>
> I didn't ask that; Jose did. My reply is at the bottom of that post :)
 
S

SC Tom

Flightless Bird
Re: CCleaner use on Registry ??

"Daave" <daave@example.com> wrote in message
news:eZm%236CzlKHA.1652@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> SC Tom wrote:
>> "Bruce Hagen" <Nospam@mymail.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:u#f27qylKHA.3792@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>
>>> "SC Tom" <sc@tom.net> wrote in message
>>> news:uk1nZkylKHA.1648@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Bruce Hagen" <Nospam@mymail.invalid> wrote in message
>>>> news:uat8FgylKHA.4772@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>
>>>>> "SC Tom" <sc@tom.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:-Ovc5hcylKHA.1648@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Daave" <daave@example.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:-OG$jf4vlKHA.2780@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>> SC Tom wrote:
>>>>>>>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:#2FA9MulKHA.5656@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>> SC Tom wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Can anyone tell me any registry cleaner I can run that will
>>>>>>>>>> delete system files or other files without my
>>>>>>>>>> knowledge/consent that will leave my system unbootable when
>>>>>>>>>> it is done?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> OneCare & Windows Live Safety Center online scans.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Can anyone provide an example (not a rumor) of any Windows
>>>>>>>>>> function that works and then after a registry cleaner, the
>>>>>>>>>> function does not work anymore?...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> How about the thousands of users who ended up with horked
>>>>>>>>> installs of
>>>>>>>>> Office after running a Windows Live Safety Center scan?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Can anyone provide an example (not a rumor) of how running a
>>>>>>>>>> registry cleaner will make my system worse than before I
>>>>>>>>>> started (timings are good).
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> See above. Also see this discussion:
>>>>>>>>> http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?t=28099
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I didn't ask that; Jose did. My reply is at the bottom of that
>>>>>>>> post :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That is frustrating! I hate when that happens! :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you look at the attribution levels in your post, I can see
>>>>>>> how PA Bear thought those were your words. This confusion is the
>>>>>>> result of two things that don't play well with Usenet:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1. Jose posted from Google Groups, which appearently uses the
>>>>>>> incorrect Quoted Printable format.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2. You responded to Jose's problematic post (in that it is in
>>>>>>> the QP format) using a news reader (Outlook Express, usually,
>>>>>>> but Windows Live Mail in your case) that has difficulty allowing
>>>>>>> for this kind of situation. I also use OE, but since I also use
>>>>>>> Quote-Fix, the attribution levels are shifted to where they
>>>>>>> should be (that is, if I were replying directly to Jose). Notice
>>>>>>> John John's reply to Jose. Its attribution marks are where they
>>>>>>> should be, too (he uses Thunderbird).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That was why I placed a line of equal signs between the end of
>>>>>> his post and mine. Guess I should have explained what that was
>>>>>> for, or made a note like <end post> <reply start>.
>>>>>> Tried T'bird- didn't like it. I've never heard of Quote-Fix. I'll
>>>>>> have to look that up.
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> SC Tom
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> OE-QuoteFix:
>>>>> http://home.in.tum.de/~jain/software/oe-quotefix/
>>>>> --
>>>>> Bruce Hagen
>>>>> MS-MVP [Mail]
>>>>> Imperial Beach, CA
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks, I had just installed it. Even though it's for OE, it
>>>> appears to work in WLM, too.
>>>> Thanks!
>>>> --
>>>> SC Tom
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> YW. Let me know how it turns out. I wasn't following the thread that
>>> close and didn't realize you have WLMail. I'd be interested to know
>>> if it is functional with WLMail.
>>> --
>>> Bruce Hagen
>>> MS-MVP [Mail]
>>> Imperial Beach, CA
>>>
>>
>> I sent a reply to Jose's post to myself, and the reply marks ">" were
>> there. I haven't looked into any of the other aspects of the program
>> since that was all I am needing for now. I guess I'll just put a
>> shortcut to the stand-alone version (since OE doesn't run on Win7)
>> and see how that goes for me.
>
> Good to know that QF works with WLM. Thanks for letting us know, Tom.
>
> I've never used any of OE's successors. What seem to be the significant
> changes?
>

There aren't a lot of changes between OE and WLM that I can see other than
the display part of it. The font appears to be faded or washed out on read
messages, and the unread are not truly bold, more like Arial Black. There
are work-arounds for that.
Rules and Block Sender work about the same, as do most other aspects of it.
Personally, I think it's a decent replacement for those using OE or Windows
Mail in Vista- the look and feel of WLM is similar, and the learning curve
is simple.

Before I had purchased Win7, I checked out some other mail and newsreader
programs, both all-in-ones like Thunderbird and Forte, and separate ones. I
even tried Outlook 2003 with the MapiLab NNTP plug in for newsgroups.
Although they are all good programs, I didn't think any of them were a good
replacement for Outlook Express for me, so I went with WLM. Others will have
differing opinions, and that's OK. This was just what I liked, and now use
on my Win7 notebook. (This reply is posted with OE since I'm on my XP
desktop now :) )

If you peruse microsoft.public.windows.live.mail.desktop, you'll see a lot
of likes/dislikes. I use the mail part of the live package, which includes
email, calendar, and a newsreader. Each of the different programs can be
downoaded separately if you don't want Movie Maker, Photo Gallery, or any of
that stuff. Some of it works on XP and Vista; all of it works on Win7. You
can get it here: http://download.live.com/ .
--
SC Tom
 
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Daave

Flightless Bird
Re: CCleaner use on Registry ??

SC Tom wrote:
> "Daave" <daave@example.com> wrote in message
> news:eZm%236CzlKHA.1652@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> SC Tom wrote:
>>> "Bruce Hagen" <Nospam@mymail.invalid> wrote in message
>>> news:u#f27qylKHA.3792@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>
>>>> "SC Tom" <sc@tom.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:uk1nZkylKHA.1648@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Bruce Hagen" <Nospam@mymail.invalid> wrote in message
>>>>> news:uat8FgylKHA.4772@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "SC Tom" <sc@tom.net> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:-Ovc5hcylKHA.1648@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Daave" <daave@example.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:-OG$jf4vlKHA.2780@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>> SC Tom wrote:
>>>>>>>>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:#2FA9MulKHA.5656@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>> SC Tom wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Can anyone tell me any registry cleaner I can run that will
>>>>>>>>>>> delete system files or other files without my
>>>>>>>>>>> knowledge/consent that will leave my system unbootable when
>>>>>>>>>>> it is done?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> OneCare & Windows Live Safety Center online scans.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Can anyone provide an example (not a rumor) of any Windows
>>>>>>>>>>> function that works and then after a registry cleaner, the
>>>>>>>>>>> function does not work anymore?...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> How about the thousands of users who ended up with horked
>>>>>>>>>> installs of
>>>>>>>>>> Office after running a Windows Live Safety Center scan?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Can anyone provide an example (not a rumor) of how running a
>>>>>>>>>>> registry cleaner will make my system worse than before I
>>>>>>>>>>> started (timings are good).
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> See above. Also see this discussion:
>>>>>>>>>> http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?t=28099
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I didn't ask that; Jose did. My reply is at the bottom of that
>>>>>>>>> post :)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That is frustrating! I hate when that happens! :)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If you look at the attribution levels in your post, I can see
>>>>>>>> how PA Bear thought those were your words. This confusion is
>>>>>>>> the result of two things that don't play well with Usenet:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 1. Jose posted from Google Groups, which appearently uses the
>>>>>>>> incorrect Quoted Printable format.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2. You responded to Jose's problematic post (in that it is in
>>>>>>>> the QP format) using a news reader (Outlook Express, usually,
>>>>>>>> but Windows Live Mail in your case) that has difficulty
>>>>>>>> allowing for this kind of situation. I also use OE, but since
>>>>>>>> I also use Quote-Fix, the attribution levels are shifted to
>>>>>>>> where they should be (that is, if I were replying directly to
>>>>>>>> Jose). Notice John John's reply to Jose. Its attribution marks
>>>>>>>> are where they should be, too (he uses Thunderbird).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That was why I placed a line of equal signs between the end of
>>>>>>> his post and mine. Guess I should have explained what that was
>>>>>>> for, or made a note like <end post> <reply start>.
>>>>>>> Tried T'bird- didn't like it. I've never heard of Quote-Fix.
>>>>>>> I'll have to look that up.
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> SC Tom
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> OE-QuoteFix:
>>>>>> http://home.in.tum.de/~jain/software/oe-quotefix/
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Bruce Hagen
>>>>>> MS-MVP [Mail]
>>>>>> Imperial Beach, CA
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks, I had just installed it. Even though it's for OE, it
>>>>> appears to work in WLM, too.
>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>> --
>>>>> SC Tom
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> YW. Let me know how it turns out. I wasn't following the thread
>>>> that close and didn't realize you have WLMail. I'd be interested
>>>> to know if it is functional with WLMail.
>>>> --
>>>> Bruce Hagen
>>>> MS-MVP [Mail]
>>>> Imperial Beach, CA
>>>>
>>>
>>> I sent a reply to Jose's post to myself, and the reply marks ">"
>>> were there. I haven't looked into any of the other aspects of the
>>> program since that was all I am needing for now. I guess I'll just
>>> put a shortcut to the stand-alone version (since OE doesn't run on
>>> Win7) and see how that goes for me.
>>
>> Good to know that QF works with WLM. Thanks for letting us know, Tom.
>>
>> I've never used any of OE's successors. What seem to be the
>> significant changes?
>>
>
> There aren't a lot of changes between OE and WLM that I can see other
> than the display part of it. The font appears to be faded or washed
> out on read messages, and the unread are not truly bold, more like
> Arial Black. There are work-arounds for that.
> Rules and Block Sender work about the same, as do most other aspects
> of it. Personally, I think it's a decent replacement for those using
> OE or Windows Mail in Vista- the look and feel of WLM is similar, and
> the learning curve is simple.
>
> Before I had purchased Win7, I checked out some other mail and
> newsreader programs, both all-in-ones like Thunderbird and Forte, and
> separate ones. I even tried Outlook 2003 with the MapiLab NNTP plug
> in for newsgroups. Although they are all good programs, I didn't
> think any of them were a good replacement for Outlook Express for me,
> so I went with WLM. Others will have differing opinions, and that's
> OK. This was just what I liked, and now use on my Win7 notebook.
> (This reply is posted with OE since I'm on my XP desktop now :) )
>
> If you peruse microsoft.public.windows.live.mail.desktop, you'll see
> a lot of likes/dislikes. I use the mail part of the live package,
> which includes email, calendar, and a newsreader. Each of the
> different programs can be downoaded separately if you don't want
> Movie Maker, Photo Gallery, or any of that stuff. Some of it works on
> XP and Vista; all of it works on Win7. You can get it here:
> http://download.live.com/ .

Thanks for the explanation (I had thought you were using WLM on XP!).
 
S

SC Tom

Flightless Bird
Re: CCleaner use on Registry ??

Daave wrote:
> SC Tom wrote:
>> "Daave" <daave@example.com> wrote in message
>> news:eZm%236CzlKHA.1652@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
<<snip>>

>>>
>>> I've never used any of OE's successors. What seem to be the
>>> significant changes?
>>>
>>
>> There aren't a lot of changes between OE and WLM that I can see other
>> than the display part of it. The font appears to be faded or washed
>> out on read messages, and the unread are not truly bold, more like
>> Arial Black. There are work-arounds for that.
>> Rules and Block Sender work about the same, as do most other aspects
>> of it. Personally, I think it's a decent replacement for those using
>> OE or Windows Mail in Vista- the look and feel of WLM is similar, and
>> the learning curve is simple.
>>
>> Before I had purchased Win7, I checked out some other mail and
>> newsreader programs, both all-in-ones like Thunderbird and Forte, and
>> separate ones. I even tried Outlook 2003 with the MapiLab NNTP plug
>> in for newsgroups. Although they are all good programs, I didn't
>> think any of them were a good replacement for Outlook Express for me,
>> so I went with WLM. Others will have differing opinions, and that's
>> OK. This was just what I liked, and now use on my Win7 notebook.
>> (This reply is posted with OE since I'm on my XP desktop now :) )
>>
>> If you peruse microsoft.public.windows.live.mail.desktop, you'll see
>> a lot of likes/dislikes. I use the mail part of the live package,
>> which includes email, calendar, and a newsreader. Each of the
>> different programs can be downoaded separately if you don't want
>> Movie Maker, Photo Gallery, or any of that stuff. Some of it works on
>> XP and Vista; all of it works on Win7. You can get it here:
>> http://download.live.com/ .
>
> Thanks for the explanation (I had thought you were using WLM on XP!).

Sorry, I wasn't intentionally trying to mislead you.
I did try WLM on XP, and it worked the same as it does on Win7. But since I
had been using OE, I went back to it when I upgraded my notebook from Vista
to Win7. So now I use OE here on my XP desktop, and WLM on my Win7 notebook
when I'm not at home.

On a side note to the original subject, after installing and uninstalling
all those mail and news programs, CCleaner DEFinitely found a mess of
invalid entries ;-) Using CCleaner, I removed them all and suffered no ill
consequences. Didn't notice any improvement in performance either, but it
did clear up a couple of recurring event log error entries.
--
SC Tom
 
S

SC Tom

Flightless Bird
Re: CCleaner use on Registry ??

Oh. OK. Although he's one I wouldn't even consider plonking. Actually, I
don't think I've plonked anyone in this group :)
--
SC Tom


"PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:uVxCZZzlKHA.3840@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> I've plonked Jose so I hadda reply to your post. <w>
>
> SC Tom wrote:
>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:#2FA9MulKHA.5656@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>> SC Tom wrote:
>>>> Can anyone tell me any registry cleaner I can run that will delete
>>>> system files or other files without my knowledge/consent that will
>>>> leave my system unbootable when it is done?
>>>
>>> OneCare & Windows Live Safety Center online scans.
>>>
>>>> Can anyone provide an example (not a rumor) of any Windows function
>>>> that works and then after a registry cleaner, the function does not
>>>> work anymore?...
>>>
>>> How about the thousands of users who ended up with horked installs of
>>> Office after running a Windows Live Safety Center scan?
>>>
>>>> Can anyone provide an example (not a rumor) of how running a registry
>>>> cleaner will make my system worse than before I started (timings are
>>>> good).
>>>
>>> See above. Also see this discussion:
>>> http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?t=28099
>>>
>>
>> I didn't ask that; Jose did. My reply is at the bottom of that post :)
 
D

Daave

Flightless Bird
Re: CCleaner use on Registry ??

He's one of the last people I'd plonk. I wonder if there might have been
one testy exchange or something.

SC Tom wrote:
> Oh. OK. Although he's one I wouldn't even consider plonking.
> Actually, I don't think I've plonked anyone in this group :)
>
> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:uVxCZZzlKHA.3840@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> I've plonked Jose so I hadda reply to your post. <w>
>>
>> SC Tom wrote:
>>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:#2FA9MulKHA.5656@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>> SC Tom wrote:
>>>>> Can anyone tell me any registry cleaner I can run that will delete
>>>>> system files or other files without my knowledge/consent that will
>>>>> leave my system unbootable when it is done?
>>>>
>>>> OneCare & Windows Live Safety Center online scans.
>>>>
>>>>> Can anyone provide an example (not a rumor) of any Windows
>>>>> function that works and then after a registry cleaner, the
>>>>> function does not work anymore?...
>>>>
>>>> How about the thousands of users who ended up with horked installs
>>>> of Office after running a Windows Live Safety Center scan?
>>>>
>>>>> Can anyone provide an example (not a rumor) of how running a
>>>>> registry cleaner will make my system worse than before I started
>>>>> (timings are good).
>>>>
>>>> See above. Also see this discussion:
>>>> http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?t=28099
>>>>
>>>
>>> I didn't ask that; Jose did. My reply is at the bottom of that post
>>> :)
 
P

PA Bear [MS MVP]

Flightless Bird
Re: CCleaner use on Registry ??

MYOB, please

Daave wrote:
> He's one of the last people I'd plonk. I wonder if there might have been
> one testy exchange or something.
>
> SC Tom wrote:
>> Oh. OK. Although he's one I wouldn't even consider plonking.
>> Actually, I don't think I've plonked anyone in this group :)
>>
>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:uVxCZZzlKHA.3840@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>> I've plonked Jose so I hadda reply to your post. <w>
>>>
>>> SC Tom wrote:
>>>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:#2FA9MulKHA.5656@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>> SC Tom wrote:
>>>>>> Can anyone tell me any registry cleaner I can run that will delete
>>>>>> system files or other files without my knowledge/consent that will
>>>>>> leave my system unbootable when it is done?
>>>>>
>>>>> OneCare & Windows Live Safety Center online scans.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Can anyone provide an example (not a rumor) of any Windows
>>>>>> function that works and then after a registry cleaner, the
>>>>>> function does not work anymore?...
>>>>>
>>>>> How about the thousands of users who ended up with horked installs
>>>>> of Office after running a Windows Live Safety Center scan?
>>>>>
>>>>>> Can anyone provide an example (not a rumor) of how running a
>>>>>> registry cleaner will make my system worse than before I started
>>>>>> (timings are good).
>>>>>
>>>>> See above. Also see this discussion:
>>>>> http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?t=28099
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I didn't ask that; Jose did. My reply is at the bottom of that post
>>>> :)
 
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