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CCleaner in Win 7

Discussion in 'Windows 7' started by Alias, Jun 21, 2010.

  1. Alias

    Alias Flightless Bird

    Every time I go to open CCleaner, I am asked by UAC if I want to run it.
    Is there a way to make an exception so that it doesn't ask again?
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  2. Parko

    Parko Flightless Bird

    On Mon, 21 Jun 2010 19:54:43 +0200, Alias wrote:

    > Every time I go to open CCleaner, I am asked by UAC if I want to run it.
    > Is there a way to make an exception so that it doesn't ask again?


    Why? You should be used to it being a seasoned Ubuntu user.



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  3. Gerry Atricks

    Gerry Atricks Flightless Bird

    "Alias" <aka@maskedandanomymous.net.¡nvalido> wrote in message
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    > Every time I go to open CCleaner, I am asked by UAC if I want to run it.
    > Is there a way to make an exception so that it doesn't ask again?
    > --
    > Alias


    I thought you were a die hard Ubuntuard? You shouldn't be using ccCleaner
    you idiot. There is no reason to clean the registry. Better power down
    your Windows box and go back to that INFERIOR Ubuntu piece of SHIT!
     
  4. Trimble Bracegirdle

    Trimble Bracegirdle Flightless Bird

    CCleaner is a good program. I've relied on it for years to
    keep my XP in good shape.
    BUT do we need it so much in Win 7 (or VISTA) ?

    That is do they do a much better & through job of keeping the
    System clean & tidy without additional utilities.

    By the way a better more through prog I also use
    is http://www.amltools.com/ REGCLEANER.
    I'm using Windows XP Pro.

    BUT can I take the Win 7 / VISTA housekeeping as good enough ??? as is ??
    (\__/)
    (='.':]
    (")_(") mouse (A Tidy O/S makes A Happy Machine)
     
  5. Tattoo Vampire

    Tattoo Vampire Flightless Bird

    Trimble Bracegirdle wrote:

    >
    > CCleaner is a good program. I've relied on it for years to
    > keep my XP in good shape.
    > BUT do we need it so much in Win 7 (or VISTA) ?
    >
    > That is do they do a much better & through job of keeping the
    > System clean & tidy without additional utilities.
    >
    > By the way a better more through prog I also use
    > is http://www.amltools.com/ REGCLEANER.
    > I'm using Windows XP Pro.
    >
    > BUT can I take the Win 7 / VISTA housekeeping as good enough ??? as
    > is ?? (\__/)
    > (='.':]
    > (")_(") mouse (A Tidy O/S makes A Happy Machine)


    There's no need to "clean" the registry, period.

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  6. Peter Foldes

    Peter Foldes Flightless Bird

    Alias

    Did you uncheck that option on installation ? If not then it should have been.

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    "Alias" <aka@maskedandanomymous.net.¡nvalido> wrote in message
    news:hvo91a$5gr$1@news.eternal-september.org...
    > Every time I go to open CCleaner, I am asked by UAC if I want to run it. Is there
    > a way to make an exception so that it doesn't ask again?
    > --
    > Alias
     
  7. Alias

    Alias Flightless Bird

    On 6/22/2010 8:44 PM, Tattoo Vampire wrote:
    > Trimble Bracegirdle wrote:
    >
    >>
    >> CCleaner is a good program. I've relied on it for years to
    >> keep my XP in good shape.
    >> BUT do we need it so much in Win 7 (or VISTA) ?
    >>
    >> That is do they do a much better& through job of keeping the
    >> System clean& tidy without additional utilities.
    >>
    >> By the way a better more through prog I also use
    >> is http://www.amltools.com/ REGCLEANER.
    >> I'm using Windows XP Pro.
    >>
    >> BUT can I take the Win 7 / VISTA housekeeping as good enough ??? as
    >> is ?? (\__/)
    >> (='.':]
    >> (")_(") mouse (A Tidy O/S makes A Happy Machine)

    >
    > There's no need to "clean" the registry, period.
    >


    True. That's not what I use it for.

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  8. Alias

    Alias Flightless Bird

    On 6/22/2010 8:52 PM, Peter Foldes wrote:
    > Alias
    >
    > Did you uncheck that option on installation ? If not then it should have
    > been.
    >


    I didn't see that. Shit.

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  9. Ken Blake

    Ken Blake Flightless Bird

    On Tue, 22 Jun 2010 19:34:21 +0100, "Trimble Bracegirdle"
    <no-spam@never.spam> wrote:

    > CCleaner is a good program.




    Yes, it's good, as long as you don't use its Registry Cleaning
    functionality.


    > I've relied on it for years to
    > keep my XP in good shape.
    > BUT do we need it so much in Win 7 (or VISTA) ?



    "Need" is too strong a word. It's never been needed. All it does is
    make it slightly easier to do things you could always do manually.


    > That is do they do a much better & through job of keeping the
    > System clean & tidy without additional utilities.
    >
    > By the way a better more through prog I also use
    > is http://www.amltools.com/ REGCLEANER.




    Ugh! Ugh to it and to all other Registry Cleaners.

    Registry cleaning programs are *all* snake oil. Cleaning of the
    registry isn't needed and is dangerous. Leave the registry alone and
    don't use any registry cleaner. Despite what many people think, and
    what vendors of registry cleaning software try to convince you of,
    having unused registry entries doesn't really hurt you.

    The risk of a serious problem caused by a registry cleaner erroneously
    removing an entry you need is far greater than any potential benefit
    it may have.

    Read http://www.edbott.com/weblog/archives/000643.html

    And also
    http://blogs.technet.com/markrussin.../02/registry-junk-a-windows-fact-of-life.aspx

    Let me point out that neither I nor anyone else who warns against the
    use of registry cleaners has ever said that they always cause
    problems. If they always caused problems, they would disappear from
    the market almost immediately. Many people have used a registry
    cleaner and never had a problem with it.

    Rather, the problem with a registry cleaner is that it carries with it
    the substantial *risk* of having a problem. And since there is no
    benefit to using a registry cleaner, running that risk is a very bad
    bargain.


    Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003
     
  10. Gerry Atricks

    Gerry Atricks Flightless Bird

    "Alias" <aka@maskedandanomymous.net.¡nvalido> wrote in message
    news:hvr1pn$ou$1@news.eternal-september.org...
    > On 6/22/2010 8:44 PM, Tattoo Vampire wrote:
    >> Trimble Bracegirdle wrote:
    >>
    >>>
    >>> CCleaner is a good program. I've relied on it for years to
    >>> keep my XP in good shape.
    >>> BUT do we need it so much in Win 7 (or VISTA) ?
    >>>
    >>> That is do they do a much better& through job of keeping the
    >>> System clean& tidy without additional utilities.
    >>>
    >>> By the way a better more through prog I also use
    >>> is http://www.amltools.com/ REGCLEANER.
    >>> I'm using Windows XP Pro.
    >>>
    >>> BUT can I take the Win 7 / VISTA housekeeping as good enough ??? as
    >>> is ?? (\__/)
    >>> (='.':]
    >>> (")_(") mouse (A Tidy O/S makes A Happy Machine)

    >>
    >> There's no need to "clean" the registry, period.
    >>

    >
    > True. That's not what I use it for.
    >
    > --
    > Alias


    What to you use it for? Keeping track of your Sheep?
     
  11. Gerry Atricks

    Gerry Atricks Flightless Bird

    "Alias" <aka@maskedandanomymous.net.¡nvalido> wrote in message
    news:hvr1q8$ou$2@news.eternal-september.org...
    > On 6/22/2010 8:52 PM, Peter Foldes wrote:
    >> Alias
    >>
    >> Did you uncheck that option on installation ? If not then it should have
    >> been.
    >>

    >
    > I didn't see that. Shit.
    >
    > --
    > Alias


    I told you. You are too stupid to use Windows products. Better go back to
    that SHITTY Ubuntu where you can't do anything productive with your machine!
    LOL!
     
  12. Dave-UK

    Dave-UK Flightless Bird

    "Ken Blake" <kblake@this.is.invalid.com> wrote in message
    news:6s2226t9775tuivvhce1qph9ql0qfga8hc@4ax.com...
    > On Tue, 22 Jun 2010 19:34:21 +0100, "Trimble Bracegirdle"
    > <no-spam@never.spam> wrote:


    > Registry cleaning programs are *all* snake oil. Cleaning of the
    > registry isn't needed and is dangerous. Leave the registry alone and
    > don't use any registry cleaner. Despite what many people think, and
    > what vendors of registry cleaning software try to convince you of,
    > having unused registry entries doesn't really hurt you.
    >
    > The risk of a serious problem caused by a registry cleaner erroneously
    > removing an entry you need is far greater than any potential benefit
    > it may have.
    >
    > Read http://www.edbott.com/weblog/archives/000643.html
    >
    > And also
    > http://blogs.technet.com/markrussin.../02/registry-junk-a-windows-fact-of-life.aspx
    >
    > Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003



    Interesting links, although rather old.
    To summarize it seems that Mr. George Ou from ZDNet
    thinks CCleaner works wonders (with msconfig) and Mr. Russinovich
    thinks registry cleaners can help maintain registry hygiene.
    Quote:
    "Registry cleaners have always been popular, but I never paid much attention to them.
    I originally thought that there might be valid reasons for their existence, but over time changed
    my mind, only to recently recognize that even today they can help maintain Registry hygiene."
     
  13. milt

    milt Flightless Bird

    On 6/22/2010 1:44 PM, Tattoo Vampire wrote:

    >
    > There's no need to "clean" the registry, period.
    >


    Agreed. It seems most of the stories I hear of computers being trashed
    usually involve the use of some "registry cleaner". There is no need to
    ever fool with the registry, especially if you have no clue what you are
    doing!
     
  14. Trimble Bracegirdle

    Trimble Bracegirdle Flightless Bird

    Still no answer to the question does VISTA & Win 7 & do a better job of
    keeping the system tidy & efficient than XP ?
    (\__/)
    (='.':]
    (")_(") mouse
     
  15. Nil

    Nil Flightless Bird

    On 23 Jun 2010, "Trimble Bracegirdle" <no-spam@never.spam> wrote in
    alt.windows7.general:

    > Still no answer to the question does VISTA & Win 7 & do a better
    > job of keeping the system tidy & efficient than XP ?


    How could you possibly measure such a thing?

    As far as I can tell, they're about the same in that regard. Win7's
    built-in defrag seems less intrusive.
     
  16. Ken Blake

    Ken Blake Flightless Bird

    On Wed, 23 Jun 2010 20:07:55 +0100, "Trimble Bracegirdle"
    <no-spam@never.spam> wrote:

    > Still no answer to the question does VISTA & Win 7 & do a better job of
    > keeping the system tidy & efficient than XP ?



    In general, two things happen:

    1. A newer version of Windows does a better job at things like this.

    2. Updates to the older versions add the same such things that are in
    the newer versions to them.

    So yes, the newer versions are better in that respect, but until the
    older ones stop being supported, that difference is small.

    Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003
     
  17. Trimble Bracegirdle

    Trimble Bracegirdle Flightless Bird

    I have a 'busy' general purpose home system.
    Game & other Demo's installed, played, then uninstalled.....
    DVD & CD's being burnt . The Internet used in many ways.
    Updates etc. installed to many, many programs / utilities.

    I'm impressed that so many people on the System Cleaner issue
    seem to never use there computers with other than the few
    original installed programs.

    So they have no Temp, tmp, chk, etc...etc clutter to deal with
    & mysteriously there Registry's never fill up with obsolete
    & incorrect entries. As they don't really use anything I suppose the
    Recycle Bin never fills up & System Restore Points never take over there
    Hard Drive.

    I'm also very surprised that VISTA & Win 7 do not even claim to offer
    improved Garbage Cleaning over earlier Windows. Or even to point out that
    the way
    the Regestry works in Win 7 is very different than older windows.
    (\__/)
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  18. Nil

    Nil Flightless Bird

    On 23 Jun 2010, "Trimble Bracegirdle" <no-spam@never.spam> wrote in
    alt.windows7.general:

    > I'm also very surprised that VISTA & Win 7 do not even claim to
    > offer improved Garbage Cleaning over earlier Windows.


    Why would be be surprised at that? Windows' Disk Cleanup utility
    already does a decent job at that, and you've got 3rd party
    utilities like CCleaner if you prefer. There was nothing broken that
    needed fixing.

    > Or even to point out that the way the Regestry works in Win 7 is
    > very different than older windows.


    But it doesn't work "very different". And who would "point it out" and
    to whom? Most users have never heard of the registry, and should not be
    encouraged to play with it. Windows' registry rarely needs to be
    touched by the user.
     
  19. SC Tom

    SC Tom Flightless Bird

    "Trimble Bracegirdle" <no-spam@never.spam> wrote in message
    news:hvtsl4$4l2$1@news.eternal-september.org...
    >I have a 'busy' general purpose home system.
    > Game & other Demo's installed, played, then uninstalled.....
    > DVD & CD's being burnt . The Internet used in many ways.
    > Updates etc. installed to many, many programs / utilities.
    >
    > I'm impressed that so many people on the System Cleaner issue
    > seem to never use there computers with other than the few
    > original installed programs.
    >
    > So they have no Temp, tmp, chk, etc...etc clutter to deal with
    > & mysteriously there Registry's never fill up with obsolete
    > & incorrect entries. As they don't really use anything I suppose the
    > Recycle Bin never fills up & System Restore Points never take over there
    > Hard Drive.
    >
    > I'm also very surprised that VISTA & Win 7 do not even claim to offer
    > improved Garbage Cleaning over earlier Windows. Or even to point out that
    > the way
    > the Regestry works in Win 7 is very different than older windows.
    > (\__/)
    > (='.':] This is Bunny. Copy and paste Bunny into your
    > (")_(") signature to help him gain world domination.
    >


    I use my computer in much the same way as you, what with gaming, internet,
    lots of installs/uninstalls. For some time, I used to use CCleaner
    religiously to weed the crap out of my registry and get rid of the other
    temp files. I never noticed any discernable increase in the speed of the PC
    as a whole. I empty my Recycle Bin when I'm sure I won't need what's in it
    (usually shortly after I delete something). I have the allowed space limited
    for restore points, so that doesn't take over my hard drive. Defrag affected
    it in a much better way, and even that was barely noticeable. Then I quit
    using CCleaner, and STILL never noticed any difference. So I have come to
    the conclusion that Windows XP/Vista/7 must handle the clean-up as well as
    any of the 3rd party apps, and all in the background. YMMV, but I certainly
    can't tell any difference between using it and not using it.
    --
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  20. J. D. Slocomb

    J. D. Slocomb Flightless Bird

    On Wed, 23 Jun 2010 12:24:04 -0700, Ken Blake
    <kblake@this.is.invalid.com> wrote:

    >On Wed, 23 Jun 2010 20:07:55 +0100, "Trimble Bracegirdle"
    ><no-spam@never.spam> wrote:
    >
    >> Still no answer to the question does VISTA & Win 7 & do a better job of
    >> keeping the system tidy & efficient than XP ?

    >
    >
    >In general, two things happen:
    >
    >1. A newer version of Windows does a better job at things like this.
    >
    >2. Updates to the older versions add the same such things that are in
    >the newer versions to them.
    >
    >So yes, the newer versions are better in that respect, but until the
    >older ones stop being supported, that difference is small.
    >
    >Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003



    I've always wondered about the Registry. If you look at one you find
    references to many applications that have never been installed on the
    computer and apparently are there from initial initialization. Which
    makes one wonder whether redundant entries are really that
    detrimental?

    It seems to me, although I can't be sure, that any entry in the
    database must be read at start up and thus must take some level of
    time to accomplish. Do these redundant entries slow down the boot
    time? If so, why are they there?

    Cheers,

    John D. Slocomb
    (jdslocombatgmail)
     

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