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Can't print to TCP printer

Discussion in 'Windows 7' started by Fokke Nauta, Jun 15, 2010.

  1. Fokke Nauta

    Fokke Nauta Flightless Bird

    Hi all,

    We have a new laptop with Win 7 64 bits. It is wireless attachted to our
    LAN. In the LAN we have a printserver running on XP Pro 32 with a printer
    attached. We have not been able to install a network printer on the laptop
    simply because there is no Win 7 driver for that printer. So on the
    printserver I created a TCP/IP queue for that printer. The queue works, as I
    was able to print by LPR on a remote Ubuntu machine. I have created a TCP
    printer on the Win 7 laptop and was - to my surprise - able to install a
    printer driver. On the server I could see that the laptop contacts the
    server on port 515 when I want to print. Of course the firewall is open for
    that port. Nothing happens and no printout appears. The printer does not
    even initialize. On the laptop an exlamation mark appears on the printer
    symbol with a "printer error" announcement, and the job remains in the local
    queue.
    On the laptop there is a sort of "problem solving" and after I have started
    that, it wants to share the TCP printer with the home group (which I don't
    have).
    The LAN works OK; all PC's, the printserver and the laptop can see eachother
    and are able to share files and directories.

    Anyone got an idea as how to get the laptop to use the printer?

    Many thanks in advance for your help.
    With kind regards,
    Fokke Nauta
     
  2. Parko

    Parko Flightless Bird

    On Tue, 15 Jun 2010 10:49:08 +0200, Fokke Nauta sgraffire:

    > We have a new laptop with Win 7 64 bits.


    If its in 64 bits I'd take it back.

    --
    Became a recluse
    And bought a computer
    Set it up in the home
    Elusive big one
     
  3. Fokke Nauta

    Fokke Nauta Flightless Bird

    "Parko" <noneofyourbloddybusinesss@nowhere.invalid> wrote in message
    news:Z8KRn.2851$Ls1.2426@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
    > On Tue, 15 Jun 2010 10:49:08 +0200, Fokke Nauta sgraffire:
    >
    >> We have a new laptop with Win 7 64 bits.

    >
    > If its in 64 bits I'd take it back.
    >

    Why?
     
  4. Larry Fisk

    Larry Fisk Flightless Bird

    As in broken to Bits ?

    "Fokke Nauta" <fnautaNO@SPAMiae.nl> wrote in message
    news:87pfaiF32qU1@mid.individual.net...
    >
    > "Parko" <noneofyourbloddybusinesss@nowhere.invalid> wrote in message
    > news:Z8KRn.2851$Ls1.2426@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
    >> On Tue, 15 Jun 2010 10:49:08 +0200, Fokke Nauta sgraffire:
    >>
    >>> We have a new laptop with Win 7 64 bits.

    >>
    >> If its in 64 bits I'd take it back.
    >>

    > Why?
    >
     
  5. Bill Yanaire, ESQ

    Bill Yanaire, ESQ Flightless Bird

    That wasn't funny. Don't quit your day job.


    "Larry Fisk" <lnfisk_nospam@idahoheartland.net> wrote in message
    news:hv875i$vlg$1@news.eternal-september.org...
    > As in broken to Bits ?
    >
    > "Fokke Nauta" <fnautaNO@SPAMiae.nl> wrote in message
    > news:87pfaiF32qU1@mid.individual.net...
    >>
    >> "Parko" <noneofyourbloddybusinesss@nowhere.invalid> wrote in message
    >> news:Z8KRn.2851$Ls1.2426@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
    >>> On Tue, 15 Jun 2010 10:49:08 +0200, Fokke Nauta sgraffire:
    >>>
    >>>> We have a new laptop with Win 7 64 bits.
    >>>
    >>> If its in 64 bits I'd take it back.
    >>>

    >> Why?
    >>

    >
    >
     
  6. Gene E. Bloch

    Gene E. Bloch Flightless Bird

    On Tue, 15 Jun 2010 15:55:09 +0200, Fokke Nauta wrote:

    > "Parko" <noneofyourbloddybusinesss@nowhere.invalid> wrote in message
    > news:Z8KRn.2851$Ls1.2426@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
    >> On Tue, 15 Jun 2010 10:49:08 +0200, Fokke Nauta sgraffire:
    >>
    >>> We have a new laptop with Win 7 64 bits.

    >>
    >> If its in 64 bits I'd take it back.
    >>

    > Why?


    Parko's reply was a bad pun, even for a native speaker of English :)

    It is possible, but not certain, that a driver for Windows Vista would work
    on your laptop. Check on the printer manufacturer's site...

    --
    Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)
     
  7. Dave

    Dave Flightless Bird

    "Fokke Nauta" <fnautaNO@SPAMiae.nl> wrote in message
    news:87ot46Fj3tU1@mid.individual.net...
    > Hi all,
    >
    > We have a new laptop with Win 7 64 bits. It is wireless attachted to our
    > LAN. In the LAN we have a printserver running on XP Pro 32 with a printer
    > attached. We have not been able to install a network printer on the laptop
    > simply because there is no Win 7 driver for that printer. So on the
    > printserver I created a TCP/IP queue for that printer. The queue works, as
    > I was able to print by LPR on a remote Ubuntu machine. I have created a
    > TCP printer on the Win 7 laptop and was - to my surprise - able to install
    > a printer driver. On the server I could see that the laptop contacts the
    > server on port 515 when I want to print. Of course the firewall is open
    > for that port. Nothing happens and no printout appears. The printer does
    > not even initialize. On the laptop an exlamation mark appears on the
    > printer symbol with a "printer error" announcement, and the job remains in
    > the local queue.
    > On the laptop there is a sort of "problem solving" and after I have
    > started that, it wants to share the TCP printer with the home group (which
    > I don't have).
    > The LAN works OK; all PC's, the printserver and the laptop can see
    > eachother and are able to share files and directories.
    >
    > Anyone got an idea as how to get the laptop to use the printer?
    >
    > Many thanks in advance for your help.
    > With kind regards,
    > Fokke Nauta
    >


    You said the ports are open in the firewall, are UDP and TCP both open? If
    not, you will only get communications one way.
    Just a thought,
    Dave
     
  8. Parko

    Parko Flightless Bird

    On Tue, 15 Jun 2010 14:52:11 -0700, Gene E. Bloch sgraffire:

    > On Tue, 15 Jun 2010 15:55:09 +0200, Fokke Nauta wrote:
    >
    >> "Parko" <noneofyourbloddybusinesss@nowhere.invalid> wrote in message
    >> news:Z8KRn.2851$Ls1.2426@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
    >>> On Tue, 15 Jun 2010 10:49:08 +0200, Fokke Nauta sgraffire:
    >>>
    >>>> We have a new laptop with Win 7 64 bits.
    >>>
    >>> If its in 64 bits I'd take it back.
    >>>

    >> Why?

    >
    > Parko's reply was a bad pun, even for a native speaker of English :)
    >
    > It is possible, but not certain, that a driver for Windows Vista would
    > work on your laptop. Check on the printer manufacturer's site...


    I resemble the rite to macerate the Queen's English just like any other
    red knackered maroon.

    --
    Became a recluse
    And bought a computer
    Set it up in the home
    Elusive big one
     
  9. Fokke Nauta

    Fokke Nauta Flightless Bird

    "Dave" <davidj92@wowway.com> wrote in message
    news:W6ydnerLD4V0l4XRnZ2dnUVZ_jednZ2d@sigecom.net...
    >
    > "Fokke Nauta" <fnautaNO@SPAMiae.nl> wrote in message
    > news:87ot46Fj3tU1@mid.individual.net...
    >> Hi all,
    >>
    >> We have a new laptop with Win 7 64 bits. It is wireless attachted to our
    >> LAN. In the LAN we have a printserver running on XP Pro 32 with a printer
    >> attached. We have not been able to install a network printer on the
    >> laptop simply because there is no Win 7 driver for that printer. So on
    >> the printserver I created a TCP/IP queue for that printer. The queue
    >> works, as I was able to print by LPR on a remote Ubuntu machine. I have
    >> created a TCP printer on the Win 7 laptop and was - to my surprise - able
    >> to install a printer driver. On the server I could see that the laptop
    >> contacts the server on port 515 when I want to print. Of course the
    >> firewall is open for that port. Nothing happens and no printout appears.
    >> The printer does not even initialize. On the laptop an exlamation mark
    >> appears on the printer symbol with a "printer error" announcement, and
    >> the job remains in the local queue.
    >> On the laptop there is a sort of "problem solving" and after I have
    >> started that, it wants to share the TCP printer with the home group
    >> (which I don't have).
    >> The LAN works OK; all PC's, the printserver and the laptop can see
    >> eachother and are able to share files and directories.
    >>
    >> Anyone got an idea as how to get the laptop to use the printer?
    >>
    >> Many thanks in advance for your help.
    >> With kind regards,
    >> Fokke Nauta
    >>

    >
    > You said the ports are open in the firewall, are UDP and TCP both open? If
    > not, you will only get communications one way.
    > Just a thought,
    > Dave


    Hi Dave,
    Yep, the firewall on the server is open wide for all local adresses in the
    LAN, including the laptops. All ports and protocols.

    Fokke
     
  10. Fokke Nauta

    Fokke Nauta Flightless Bird

    "Gene E. Bloch" <not-me@other.invalid> wrote in message
    news:r47xro65hgkf$.cvrh50r0rgy9$.dlg@40tude.net...
    > On Tue, 15 Jun 2010 15:55:09 +0200, Fokke Nauta wrote:
    >
    >> "Parko" <noneofyourbloddybusinesss@nowhere.invalid> wrote in message
    >> news:Z8KRn.2851$Ls1.2426@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
    >>> On Tue, 15 Jun 2010 10:49:08 +0200, Fokke Nauta sgraffire:
    >>>
    >>>> We have a new laptop with Win 7 64 bits.
    >>>
    >>> If its in 64 bits I'd take it back.
    >>>

    >> Why?

    >
    > Parko's reply was a bad pun, even for a native speaker of English :)
    >
    > It is possible, but not certain, that a driver for Windows Vista would
    > work
    > on your laptop. Check on the printer manufacturer's site...
    >


    You are right, in many occasions this would work. I already searched for a
    Vista driver for my printer. None available.
    I guess the printer (HP3650) is already too old.

    Fokke
     
  11. Gene E. Bloch

    Gene E. Bloch Flightless Bird

    On Wed, 16 Jun 2010 03:36:21 GMT, Parko wrote:

    > On Tue, 15 Jun 2010 14:52:11 -0700, Gene E. Bloch sgraffire:
    >
    >> On Tue, 15 Jun 2010 15:55:09 +0200, Fokke Nauta wrote:
    >>
    >>> "Parko" <noneofyourbloddybusinesss@nowhere.invalid> wrote in message
    >>> news:Z8KRn.2851$Ls1.2426@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
    >>>> On Tue, 15 Jun 2010 10:49:08 +0200, Fokke Nauta sgraffire:
    >>>>
    >>>>> We have a new laptop with Win 7 64 bits.
    >>>>
    >>>> If its in 64 bits I'd take it back.
    >>>>
    >>> Why?

    >>
    >> Parko's reply was a bad pun, even for a native speaker of English :)
    >>
    >> It is possible, but not certain, that a driver for Windows Vista would
    >> work on your laptop. Check on the printer manufacturer's site...

    >
    > I resemble the rite to macerate the Queen's English just like any other
    > red knackered maroon.


    But you can't without my permission. Or can you? I forget...

    Bad puns are OK, as we all know, but it can be a tad unfair dropping them
    on a non-native speaker.

    --
    Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)
     
  12. Gene E. Bloch

    Gene E. Bloch Flightless Bird

    On Wed, 16 Jun 2010 14:14:47 +0200, Fokke Nauta wrote:

    > "Gene E. Bloch" <not-me@other.invalid> wrote in message
    > news:r47xro65hgkf$.cvrh50r0rgy9$.dlg@40tude.net...
    >> On Tue, 15 Jun 2010 15:55:09 +0200, Fokke Nauta wrote:
    >>
    >>> "Parko" <noneofyourbloddybusinesss@nowhere.invalid> wrote in message
    >>> news:Z8KRn.2851$Ls1.2426@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
    >>>> On Tue, 15 Jun 2010 10:49:08 +0200, Fokke Nauta sgraffire:
    >>>>
    >>>>> We have a new laptop with Win 7 64 bits.
    >>>>
    >>>> If its in 64 bits I'd take it back.
    >>>>
    >>> Why?

    >>
    >> Parko's reply was a bad pun, even for a native speaker of English :)
    >>
    >> It is possible, but not certain, that a driver for Windows Vista would
    >> work
    >> on your laptop. Check on the printer manufacturer's site...
    >>

    >
    > You are right, in many occasions this would work. I already searched for a
    > Vista driver for my printer. None available.
    > I guess the printer (HP3650) is already too old.
    >
    > Fokke


    Sounds like. BTW - I like the word "superannuated" - it applies to me as
    well as to your printer :)

    --
    Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)
     
  13. Bob I

    Bob I Flightless Bird

    On 6/16/2010 7:14 AM, Fokke Nauta wrote:
    > "Gene E. Bloch"<not-me@other.invalid> wrote in message
    > news:r47xro65hgkf$.cvrh50r0rgy9$.dlg@40tude.net...
    >> On Tue, 15 Jun 2010 15:55:09 +0200, Fokke Nauta wrote:
    >>
    >>> "Parko"<noneofyourbloddybusinesss@nowhere.invalid> wrote in message
    >>> news:Z8KRn.2851$Ls1.2426@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
    >>>> On Tue, 15 Jun 2010 10:49:08 +0200, Fokke Nauta sgraffire:
    >>>>
    >>>>> We have a new laptop with Win 7 64 bits.
    >>>>
    >>>> If its in 64 bits I'd take it back.
    >>>>
    >>> Why?

    >>
    >> Parko's reply was a bad pun, even for a native speaker of English :)
    >>
    >> It is possible, but not certain, that a driver for Windows Vista would
    >> work
    >> on your laptop. Check on the printer manufacturer's site...
    >>

    >
    > You are right, in many occasions this would work. I already searched for a
    > Vista driver for my printer. None available.
    > I guess the printer (HP3650) is already too old.
    >
    > Fokke
    >

    See link
    http://www.microsoft.com/windows/co...Search.aspx?type=Hardware&s=hp 3650&os=64-bit
     
  14. Dave

    Dave Flightless Bird

    "Fokke Nauta" <fnautaNO@SPAMiae.nl> wrote in message
    news:87rthoFqlhU1@mid.individual.net...
    > "Dave" <davidj92@wowway.com> wrote in message
    > news:W6ydnerLD4V0l4XRnZ2dnUVZ_jednZ2d@sigecom.net...
    >>
    >> "Fokke Nauta" <fnautaNO@SPAMiae.nl> wrote in message
    >> news:87ot46Fj3tU1@mid.individual.net...
    >>> Hi all,
    >>>
    >>> We have a new laptop with Win 7 64 bits. It is wireless attachted to our
    >>> LAN. In the LAN we have a printserver running on XP Pro 32 with a
    >>> printer attached. We have not been able to install a network printer on
    >>> the laptop simply because there is no Win 7 driver for that printer. So
    >>> on the printserver I created a TCP/IP queue for that printer. The queue
    >>> works, as I was able to print by LPR on a remote Ubuntu machine. I have
    >>> created a TCP printer on the Win 7 laptop and was - to my surprise -
    >>> able to install a printer driver. On the server I could see that the
    >>> laptop contacts the server on port 515 when I want to print. Of course
    >>> the firewall is open for that port. Nothing happens and no printout
    >>> appears. The printer does not even initialize. On the laptop an
    >>> exlamation mark appears on the printer symbol with a "printer error"
    >>> announcement, and the job remains in the local queue.
    >>> On the laptop there is a sort of "problem solving" and after I have
    >>> started that, it wants to share the TCP printer with the home group
    >>> (which I don't have).
    >>> The LAN works OK; all PC's, the printserver and the laptop can see
    >>> eachother and are able to share files and directories.
    >>>
    >>> Anyone got an idea as how to get the laptop to use the printer?
    >>>
    >>> Many thanks in advance for your help.
    >>> With kind regards,
    >>> Fokke Nauta
    >>>

    >>
    >> You said the ports are open in the firewall, are UDP and TCP both open?
    >> If not, you will only get communications one way.
    >> Just a thought,
    >> Dave

    >
    > Hi Dave,
    > Yep, the firewall on the server is open wide for all local adresses in the
    > LAN, including the laptops. All ports and protocols.
    >
    > Fokke
    >


    I'm not sure why, but I was having trouble with an HP printer communicating
    through the router firewall even though the computer could see the printer
    and had it's IP and MAC addresses. Router tech support told me to manually
    add access for ports 90 & 95, even though I had all ports open access for
    the printer. Haven't had a chance to research it and it didn't work for me,
    but maybe it will help you.
    One other thought, I'm not sure why, but I hooked my printer up direct to
    computer with ethernet cable, installed it on the computer and
    communications were good. Shut printer off, removed it from the list of
    printers in control panel, then hooked printer back up to router with
    ethernet cable. Went back into software install and told it to add a device
    and selected a wired ethernet connected printer, which it found and
    installed and communications with printer were good. The only reason I can
    think of is there was a file not being installed, that the printer needed
    for communications, when I was trying to install it with it connected to
    router, but when it was connected direct to computer the file got installed.
    When I then connected printer to router the file was on the computer that it
    needed. All speculation, but I'm super-anal and it has kept me from going
    completely crazy. =D
    Might be worth a shot for you.
    HTH,
    Dave
     
  15. Fokke Nauta

    Fokke Nauta Flightless Bird

    "Gene E. Bloch" <not-me@other.invalid> wrote in message
    news:1ew3w58c2ov2g$.amumoghexita.dlg@40tude.net...
    > On Wed, 16 Jun 2010 14:14:47 +0200, Fokke Nauta wrote:
    >
    >> "Gene E. Bloch" <not-me@other.invalid> wrote in message
    >> news:r47xro65hgkf$.cvrh50r0rgy9$.dlg@40tude.net...
    >>> On Tue, 15 Jun 2010 15:55:09 +0200, Fokke Nauta wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> "Parko" <noneofyourbloddybusinesss@nowhere.invalid> wrote in message
    >>>> news:Z8KRn.2851$Ls1.2426@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
    >>>>> On Tue, 15 Jun 2010 10:49:08 +0200, Fokke Nauta sgraffire:
    >>>>>
    >>>>>> We have a new laptop with Win 7 64 bits.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> If its in 64 bits I'd take it back.
    >>>>>
    >>>> Why?
    >>>
    >>> Parko's reply was a bad pun, even for a native speaker of English :)
    >>>
    >>> It is possible, but not certain, that a driver for Windows Vista would
    >>> work
    >>> on your laptop. Check on the printer manufacturer's site...
    >>>

    >>
    >> You are right, in many occasions this would work. I already searched for
    >> a
    >> Vista driver for my printer. None available.
    >> I guess the printer (HP3650) is already too old.
    >>
    >> Fokke

    >
    > Sounds like. BTW - I like the word "superannuated" - it applies to me as
    > well as to your printer :)
    >
    > --
    > Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)
    >


    To me as well :)
    Can still remember the days of CP/M.

    But the printer complies with W7. I can install a driver when I connect the
    printer directly.

    BTW, the laptop was in one piece :)

    Fokke
     
  16. Fokke Nauta

    Fokke Nauta Flightless Bird

    "Bob I" <birelan@yahoo.com> wrote in message
    news:JffSn.102010$_84.58227@newsfe18.iad...
    >
    >
    > On 6/16/2010 7:14 AM, Fokke Nauta wrote:
    >> "Gene E. Bloch"<not-me@other.invalid> wrote in message
    >> news:r47xro65hgkf$.cvrh50r0rgy9$.dlg@40tude.net...
    >>> On Tue, 15 Jun 2010 15:55:09 +0200, Fokke Nauta wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> "Parko"<noneofyourbloddybusinesss@nowhere.invalid> wrote in message
    >>>> news:Z8KRn.2851$Ls1.2426@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
    >>>>> On Tue, 15 Jun 2010 10:49:08 +0200, Fokke Nauta sgraffire:
    >>>>>
    >>>>>> We have a new laptop with Win 7 64 bits.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> If its in 64 bits I'd take it back.
    >>>>>
    >>>> Why?
    >>>
    >>> Parko's reply was a bad pun, even for a native speaker of English :)
    >>>
    >>> It is possible, but not certain, that a driver for Windows Vista would
    >>> work
    >>> on your laptop. Check on the printer manufacturer's site...
    >>>

    >>
    >> You are right, in many occasions this would work. I already searched for
    >> a
    >> Vista driver for my printer. None available.
    >> I guess the printer (HP3650) is already too old.
    >>
    >> Fokke
    >>

    > See link
    > http://www.microsoft.com/windows/co...Search.aspx?type=Hardware&s=hp 3650&os=64-bit


    OK, thanks.
    I installed the printer locally on the laptop on the USB port, and the
    driver installed perfectly. The printer works locally. So it is not
    obsolete.
    But when I connect the printer to the server and try to install a network
    printer on the laptop, it finds the printer. It cannot find a driver and
    wants an .INF file. The only .INF file I have is from the XP32 driver, which
    won't work. I am not able to download the driver from the server (XP32).
    When I install the printer on the laptop as a TCP/IP printer, I am able to
    install the driver. So - this seems the way to go. When I try to print, it
    contacts the server on port 515, but it does not print. The job sits in the
    local queue.

    Hence my question as how to solve this.

    Fokke


    >
     
  17. Fokke Nauta

    Fokke Nauta Flightless Bird

    "Dave" <davidj92@wowway.com> wrote in message
    news:M5udnTY6Ldb6L4TRnZ2dnUVZ_qadnZ2d@sigecom.net...
    >


    <cut>

    > I'm not sure why, but I was having trouble with an HP printer
    > communicating through the router firewall even though the computer could
    > see the printer and had it's IP and MAC addresses. Router tech support
    > told me to manually add access for ports 90 & 95, even though I had all
    > ports open access for the printer. Haven't had a chance to research it and
    > it didn't work for me, but maybe it will help you.
    > One other thought, I'm not sure why, but I hooked my printer up direct to
    > computer with ethernet cable, installed it on the computer and
    > communications were good. Shut printer off, removed it from the list of
    > printers in control panel, then hooked printer back up to router with
    > ethernet cable. Went back into software install and told it to add a
    > device and selected a wired ethernet connected printer, which it found and
    > installed and communications with printer were good. The only reason I can
    > think of is there was a file not being installed, that the printer needed
    > for communications, when I was trying to install it with it connected to
    > router, but when it was connected direct to computer the file got
    > installed. When I then connected printer to router the file was on the
    > computer that it needed. All speculation, but I'm super-anal and it has
    > kept me from going completely crazy. =D
    > Might be worth a shot for you.
    > HTH,
    > Dave


    Strange things happen with printers ...
    I connected the printer locally and the driver installed perfectly.
    I hooked the printer to the server again, I could find the networked printer
    on the laptop but wasn't able to install a driver. It insisted to find an
    ..INF file - which I only have from the XP32 driver on the server. It didn't
    like that one.
    So this did not work for me.
    The only way to install the driver on the laptop is either locally or as a
    TCP printer.
    And that doesn't print.
    Thanks anyway :)

    Cheers,
    Fokke
     
  18. Char Jackson

    Char Jackson Flightless Bird

    On Thu, 17 Jun 2010 00:28:04 -0500, "Dave" <davidj92@wowway.com>
    wrote:

    >I'm not sure why, but I was having trouble with an HP printer communicating
    >through the router firewall even though the computer could see the printer
    >and had it's IP and MAC addresses.


    That's a pretty uncommon configuration (for home/SOHO anyway), to have
    a router in between the computers and the printer. Much more often,
    even if everything is physically connected to a "router", the devices
    on the LAN side are only separated by a switch (I mean the switch
    inside the router). Thus, router firewall and opening various ports
    are completely unrelated and unnecessary to proper operation.

    >Router tech support told me to manually
    >add access for ports 90 & 95, even though I had all ports open access for
    >the printer. Haven't had a chance to research it and it didn't work for me,
    >but maybe it will help you.


    I'm curious to know how things are physically connected. It's likely
    that ports didn't need to be opened.
     
  19. Gene E. Bloch

    Gene E. Bloch Flightless Bird

    On Thu, 17 Jun 2010 12:02:46 +0200, Fokke Nauta wrote:

    > "Gene E. Bloch" <not-me@other.invalid> wrote in message
    > news:1ew3w58c2ov2g$.amumoghexita.dlg@40tude.net...
    >> On Wed, 16 Jun 2010 14:14:47 +0200, Fokke Nauta wrote:
    >>
    >>> "Gene E. Bloch" <not-me@other.invalid> wrote in message
    >>> news:r47xro65hgkf$.cvrh50r0rgy9$.dlg@40tude.net...
    >>>> On Tue, 15 Jun 2010 15:55:09 +0200, Fokke Nauta wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>> "Parko" <noneofyourbloddybusinesss@nowhere.invalid> wrote in message
    >>>>> news:Z8KRn.2851$Ls1.2426@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
    >>>>>> On Tue, 15 Jun 2010 10:49:08 +0200, Fokke Nauta sgraffire:
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>> We have a new laptop with Win 7 64 bits.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> If its in 64 bits I'd take it back.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>> Why?
    >>>>
    >>>> Parko's reply was a bad pun, even for a native speaker of English :)
    >>>>
    >>>> It is possible, but not certain, that a driver for Windows Vista would
    >>>> work
    >>>> on your laptop. Check on the printer manufacturer's site...
    >>>>
    >>>
    >>> You are right, in many occasions this would work. I already searched for
    >>> a
    >>> Vista driver for my printer. None available.
    >>> I guess the printer (HP3650) is already too old.
    >>>
    >>> Fokke

    >>
    >> Sounds like. BTW - I like the word "superannuated" - it applies to me as
    >> well as to your printer :)
    >>
    >> --
    >> Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)
    >>

    >
    > To me as well :)
    > Can still remember the days of CP/M.


    I started in Fortran II and FAP on IBM 7090's in the early 60's. My phone
    is much more powerful and has a far better user interface than those
    machines, but it's much smaller :)

    But now I have to learn Java and Android programming for the phone I want
    to get next.

    > But the printer complies with W7. I can install a driver when I connect the
    > printer directly.
    >
    > BTW, the laptop was in one piece :)


    Oh, it must be a 1-bit computer.

    ....I would apologize for that remark, but I am by nature shameless :)

    >
    > Fokke



    --
    Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)
     
  20. Gene E. Bloch

    Gene E. Bloch Flightless Bird

    On Thu, 17 Jun 2010 11:59:08 +0200, Fokke Nauta wrote:

    > "Bob I" <birelan@yahoo.com> wrote in message
    > news:JffSn.102010$_84.58227@newsfe18.iad...
    >>
    >>
    >> On 6/16/2010 7:14 AM, Fokke Nauta wrote:
    >>> "Gene E. Bloch"<not-me@other.invalid> wrote in message
    >>> news:r47xro65hgkf$.cvrh50r0rgy9$.dlg@40tude.net...
    >>>> On Tue, 15 Jun 2010 15:55:09 +0200, Fokke Nauta wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>> "Parko"<noneofyourbloddybusinesss@nowhere.invalid> wrote in message
    >>>>> news:Z8KRn.2851$Ls1.2426@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
    >>>>>> On Tue, 15 Jun 2010 10:49:08 +0200, Fokke Nauta sgraffire:
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>> We have a new laptop with Win 7 64 bits.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> If its in 64 bits I'd take it back.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>> Why?
    >>>>
    >>>> Parko's reply was a bad pun, even for a native speaker of English :)
    >>>>
    >>>> It is possible, but not certain, that a driver for Windows Vista would
    >>>> work
    >>>> on your laptop. Check on the printer manufacturer's site...
    >>>>
    >>>
    >>> You are right, in many occasions this would work. I already searched for
    >>> a
    >>> Vista driver for my printer. None available.
    >>> I guess the printer (HP3650) is already too old.
    >>>
    >>> Fokke
    >>>

    >> See link
    >> http://www.microsoft.com/windows/co...Search.aspx?type=Hardware&s=hp 3650&os=64-bit

    >
    > OK, thanks.
    > I installed the printer locally on the laptop on the USB port, and the
    > driver installed perfectly. The printer works locally. So it is not
    > obsolete.
    > But when I connect the printer to the server and try to install a network
    > printer on the laptop, it finds the printer. It cannot find a driver and
    > wants an .INF file. The only .INF file I have is from the XP32 driver, which
    > won't work. I am not able to download the driver from the server (XP32).
    > When I install the printer on the laptop as a TCP/IP printer, I am able to
    > install the driver. So - this seems the way to go. When I try to print, it
    > contacts the server on port 515, but it does not print. The job sits in the
    > local queue.
    >
    > Hence my question as how to solve this.
    >
    > Fokke
    >
    >
    >>


    I am a little bit out of my depth here, but I'll take a chance and waste
    your time with what I think.

    As I understand it (and as I think I recall), installing the driver
    directly (via USB, for example) on the problem computer (call that computer
    "A") is a necessary first step to using the printer on the network.

    The second step is to then connect the computer via the network instead of
    directly to A (or just remove the USB connection from A, since the printer
    is probably already on the network)

    The third step is go to the printer's settings on A, go to the Ports tab,
    and choose the network as the port for the computer.

    This should now allow you to print from A.

    I believe this is not new to you, but I am posting it just in case it is
    different from what you have already tried.

    --
    Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)
     

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