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Can win startup login be eliminated?

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ECLiPSE 2002

Flightless Bird
New to using Win 7 Home Premium. I am the sole user of the PC and see
no purpose in clicking a user login each time I start windows. Is
there a way to go directly to windows without the login?

TIA

Mary
 
Z

Zaphod Beeblebrox

Flightless Bird
"ECLiPSE 2002" <fdm2000@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> New to using Win 7 Home Premium. I am the sole user of the PC and
> see
> no purpose in clicking a user login each time I start windows. Is
> there a way to go directly to windows without the login?
>


Click the start "orb", type NETPLWIZ and press enter. In the list of
users, click the one you want to log in automatically, then un-check
the box at the top that says "Users must enter a username and password
to use this computer". Click OK, and you'll be asked to put in the
password for the account. That should do it.

--
Zaphod

Arthur Dent, speaking to Trillian about Zaphod:
"So, two heads is what does it for a girl?"
"...Anything else he's got two of?"
 
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neil

Flightless Bird
"ECLiPSE 2002" <fdm2000@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> New to using Win 7 Home Premium. I am the sole user of the PC and see
> no purpose in clicking a user login each time I start windows. Is
> there a way to go directly to windows without the login?
>
> TIA
>
> Mary


Works for XP perhaps it will for Win7
http://wiki.ljackson.us/Control_Userpasswords2
 
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Al Smith

Flightless Bird
ECLiPSE 2002 wrote:
> New to using Win 7 Home Premium. I am the sole user of the PC and see
> no purpose in clicking a user login each time I start windows. Is
> there a way to go directly to windows without the login?
>
> TIA
>
> Mary



When I boot my computer with Windows 7, I am taken directly into
Windows 7. No login screen. There must be a way to eliminate your
login screen. I'm sorry, I don't know offhand what it might be,
but I'm sure you can fix this problem.

-Al-
 
A

Alex Clayton

Flightless Bird
"Al Smith" <invalid@address.com> wrote in message
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> ECLiPSE 2002 wrote:
>> New to using Win 7 Home Premium. I am the sole user of the PC and see
>> no purpose in clicking a user login each time I start windows. Is
>> there a way to go directly to windows without the login?
>>
>> TIA
>>
>> Mary

>
>
> When I boot my computer with Windows 7, I am taken directly into Windows
> 7. No login screen. There must be a way to eliminate your login screen.
> I'm sorry, I don't know offhand what it might be, but I'm sure you can fix
> this problem.
>
> -Al-
>

With mine I have never set up User accounts, so it just goes to Win. When I
am using one of them at work I do change it to require a password, so if
someone is casually trying to look, they will not be able to. This is not
real secure, but keeps honest people honest so to speak. I go in and out of
this in the control panel, user accounts. When I have it at home I just
remove the password, then at start up, or wake up, it just goes to Windows.
--
There are three kinds of men: The ones that learn by reading. The few who
learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence and
find out for themselves.
Will Rogers
 
J

jsmith

Flightless Bird
"ECLiPSE 2002" <fdm2000@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:d0rao5dft4qgkgmc4qv5a79m4hd2m2r64t@4ax.com...
> New to using Win 7 Home Premium. I am the sole user of the PC and see
> no purpose in clicking a user login each time I start windows. Is
> there a way to go directly to windows without the login?
>
> TIA
>
> Mary

---------------
Yes its...Start/Control panel/user account/add remove account/ you will see
it there
 
E

ECLiPSE 2002

Flightless Bird
Thanks to all responders for their kindness in offering suggestions.

Mary


On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 13:15:43 -0500, ECLiPSE 2002 <fdm2000@comcast.net>
wrote:

>New to using Win 7 Home Premium. I am the sole user of the PC and see
>no purpose in clicking a user login each time I start windows. Is
>there a way to go directly to windows without the login?
>
>TIA
>
>Mary
 
E

ECLiPSE 2002

Flightless Bird
Tried methods suggested here and for some reason I still get a square
box like icon the appears that gives my user name and says locked.
Qindows won't start until I click on the icon. Why or how it is locked
is confusing to me.

"The Start/Control panel/user account/add remove account/ you will see
there" suggestion doesn't work for me - there is no add remove account
that I can find under user account?

Mary




On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 20:48:24 -0000, "jsmith" <John@nospamthanks.co.uk>
wrote:

>
>
>"ECLiPSE 2002" <fdm2000@comcast.net> wrote in message
>news:d0rao5dft4qgkgmc4qv5a79m4hd2m2r64t@4ax.com...
>> New to using Win 7 Home Premium. I am the sole user of the PC and see
>> no purpose in clicking a user login each time I start windows. Is
>> there a way to go directly to windows without the login?
>>
>> TIA
>>
>> Mary

>---------------
>Yes its...Start/Control panel/user account/add remove account/ you will see
>it there
 
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Alex Clayton

Flightless Bird
"ECLiPSE 2002" <fdm2000@comcast.net> wrote in message
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>
> Tried methods suggested here and for some reason I still get a square
> box like icon the appears that gives my user name and says locked.
> Qindows won't start until I click on the icon. Why or how it is locked
> is confusing to me.
>
> "The Start/Control panel/user account/add remove account/ you will see
> there" suggestion doesn't work for me - there is no add remove account
> that I can find under user account?
>
> Mary
>
>
>


Ok, it's been a while since I changed it, so I just did again to make sure I
am remembering this right. <G>
When I removed my password that I added, it boots to Win. if I boot cold,
from a complete shut down. This was done from the User accounts in control
panel, remove password.
Now when I put it to sleep, then woke it, it had that box I had to click,
saying it was locked, since it had, had a password before. Nothing to enter
any more, just click the box. To remove that I had to go to power options in
control panel, click require password on wakeup, then click change setting
that are currently available, and it would allow me to check a box saying
don't require a password. Then when I put it to sleep, and woke it, it went
strait to Windows nothing to click.
--
Things get better with age. I'm approaching magnificent!!
 
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Gordon

Flightless Bird
"Alex Clayton" <Alexx1400@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> "ECLiPSE 2002" <fdm2000@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:unffo555qns2jade0qovjcmob8b48vvkmb@4ax.com...
>>
>> Tried methods suggested here and for some reason I still get a square
>> box like icon the appears that gives my user name and says locked.
>> Qindows won't start until I click on the icon. Why or how it is locked
>> is confusing to me.
>>
>> "The Start/Control panel/user account/add remove account/ you will see
>> there" suggestion doesn't work for me - there is no add remove account
>> that I can find under user account?
>>
>> Mary
>>
>>
>>

>
> Ok, it's been a while since I changed it, so I just did again to make sure
> I am remembering this right. <G>
> When I removed my password that I added, it boots to Win. if I boot cold,
> from a complete shut down. This was done from the User accounts in control
> panel, remove password.
> Now when I put it to sleep, then woke it, it had that box I had to click,
> saying it was locked, since it had, had a password before. Nothing to
> enter any more, just click the box. To remove that I had to go to power
> options in control panel, click require password on wakeup, then click
> change setting that are currently available, and it would allow me to
> check a box saying don't require a password. Then when I put it to sleep,
> and woke it, it went strait to Windows nothing to click.
> --
> Things get better with age. I'm approaching magnificent!!
>
>


When will Windows Users get out of this "I don't need a password but I need
to run as Admin" mindset?

Is it co-incidence that the Operating Systems least affected by hackers and
viruses are run a) as a User and not Admin (aka Root) and b) have passwords?
 
A

Alex Clayton

Flightless Bird
"Gordon" <gordonbparker@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:hm8soo$1qh$1@news.eternal-september.org...

>
> When will Windows Users get out of this "I don't need a password but I
> need to run as Admin" mindset?
>
> Is it co-incidence that the Operating Systems least affected by hackers
> and viruses are run a) as a User and not Admin (aka Root) and b) have
> passwords?
>


OK, I am always willing to learn more, since I know LITTLE about this. Why
is it I need to a user account? How is it that something bad is going to get
into the PC, because I don't have a user account set up?
--
"Everything in excess! To enjoy the flavor of life, take big bites.
Moderation is for monks."

[Lazarus Long]
 
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Gordon

Flightless Bird
"Alex Clayton" <Alexx1400@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> "Gordon" <gordonbparker@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:hm8soo$1qh$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>
>>
>> When will Windows Users get out of this "I don't need a password but I
>> need to run as Admin" mindset?
>>
>> Is it co-incidence that the Operating Systems least affected by hackers
>> and viruses are run a) as a User and not Admin (aka Root) and b) have
>> passwords?
>>

>
> OK, I am always willing to learn more, since I know LITTLE about this. Why
> is it I need to a user account? How is it that something bad is going to
> get into the PC, because I don't have a user account set up?


It's another line of defence. If you run as a Standard User with a password
then (hopefully) anything untoward will have difficulty in doing anything
because it will need a password to continue. You should most certainly NOT
run on a day to day basis as an administrator with no password.
You do have a User account - you can't run windows without one ever since
XP. What is important is the TYPE of user account.
You should also give the built-in Administrator account a strong password
and make sure that the Guest account is disabled (by default - but it
doesn't do any harm to check that it IS disabled...)
 
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Alex Clayton

Flightless Bird
"Gordon" <gordonbparker@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Alex Clayton" <Alexx1400@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:pLednSyQt5sJZxrWnZ2dnUVZ_j-dnZ2d@nventure.com...
>> "Gordon" <gordonbparker@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:hm8soo$1qh$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>>
>>>
>>> When will Windows Users get out of this "I don't need a password but I
>>> need to run as Admin" mindset?
>>>
>>> Is it co-incidence that the Operating Systems least affected by hackers
>>> and viruses are run a) as a User and not Admin (aka Root) and b) have
>>> passwords?
>>>

>>
>> OK, I am always willing to learn more, since I know LITTLE about this.
>> Why is it I need to a user account? How is it that something bad is going
>> to get into the PC, because I don't have a user account set up?

>
> It's another line of defence. If you run as a Standard User with a
> password then (hopefully) anything untoward will have difficulty in doing
> anything because it will need a password to continue. You should most
> certainly NOT run on a day to day basis as an administrator with no
> password.
> You do have a User account - you can't run windows without one ever since
> XP. What is important is the TYPE of user account.
> You should also give the built-in Administrator account a strong password
> and make sure that the Guest account is disabled (by default - but it
> doesn't do any harm to check that it IS disabled...)
>


OK, I'm not trying to be a smart ass here, but I still did not see an answer
here.
I realize I have an account, the default account when I set up the new PC.
I use AV, a firewall and anti malware, and am not interested in porn
sites, or opening some link that claims to be the latest picture of some
starlet with her pants down.
I have no top secret info on my laptop, and all of it is backed up, so if
someone steals it, I just put it all back on the new one. What I am looking
for is what is it I need to fear, enough to set up a separate account? I
guess what is it that someone is going to do to my PC, that they can't do
because I set up a separate account instead of using the default
(Administrator) account. ??
--
To err is human.....
But to blame someone else shows management potential.
 
D

Dave

Flightless Bird
"Alex Clayton" <Alexx1400@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:pLednSyQt5sJZxrWnZ2dnUVZ_j-dnZ2d@nventure.com...
> "Gordon" <gordonbparker@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:hm8soo$1qh$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>
>>
>> When will Windows Users get out of this "I don't need a password but I
>> need to run as Admin" mindset?
>>
>> Is it co-incidence that the Operating Systems least affected by hackers
>> and viruses are run a) as a User and not Admin (aka Root) and b) have
>> passwords?
>>

>
> OK, I am always willing to learn more, since I know LITTLE about this. Why
> is it I need to a user account? How is it that something bad is going to
> get into the PC, because I don't have a user account set up?
> --
> "Everything in excess! To enjoy the flavor of life, take big bites.
> Moderation is for monks."
>
> [Lazarus Long]


With the admin and user accounts setup with a password, any time you try to
install, modify or delete something the User Account Control (UAC) will pop
up a box requiring you to enter your admin password. Some softwares are so
strict they will only let you install from the admin account so you have to
switch users. This prevents any malware that happens to get on your computer
from doing any of the above. If you're doing something other than the above
on your puter and the UAC box pops up then that can be an indication you
need to check your firewall, run your virus and malware scanners. (You do
have those don't you? If they're smart enough to run them on Unix then we
should be just a smart.) Sometimes it's aggravating but it does offer
another layer of security, after all, talented people like Frank and Alias
sometimes get tired of trying to piss people off in ng's and start writing
malware, so it can come in handy.
HTH,
Dave
 
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Alex Clayton

Flightless Bird
"Dave" <davidj92@wowway.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> "Alex Clayton" <Alexx1400@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:pLednSyQt5sJZxrWnZ2dnUVZ_j-dnZ2d@nventure.com...
>> "Gordon" <gordonbparker@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:hm8soo$1qh$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>>
>>>
>>> When will Windows Users get out of this "I don't need a password but I
>>> need to run as Admin" mindset?
>>>
>>> Is it co-incidence that the Operating Systems least affected by hackers
>>> and viruses are run a) as a User and not Admin (aka Root) and b) have
>>> passwords?
>>>

>>
>> OK, I am always willing to learn more, since I know LITTLE about this.
>> Why is it I need to a user account? How is it that something bad is going
>> to get into the PC, because I don't have a user account set up?
>> --
>> "Everything in excess! To enjoy the flavor of life, take big bites.
>> Moderation is for monks."
>>
>> [Lazarus Long]

>
> With the admin and user accounts setup with a password, any time you try
> to install, modify or delete something the User Account Control (UAC) will
> pop up a box requiring you to enter your admin password. Some softwares
> are so strict they will only let you install from the admin account so you
> have to switch users. This prevents any malware that happens to get on
> your computer from doing any of the above. If you're doing something other
> than the above on your puter and the UAC box pops up then that can be an
> indication you need to check your firewall, run your virus and malware
> scanners. (You do have those don't you? If they're smart enough to run
> them on Unix then we should be just a smart.) Sometimes it's aggravating
> but it does offer another layer of security, after all, talented people
> like Frank and Alias sometimes get tired of trying to piss people off in
> ng's and start writing malware, so it can come in handy.
> HTH,
> Dave
>


Yes I have AV, and AM, and do run both at least a couple times a week. In
all the years I have been using a PC (since about 01) I don't think they
have ever found anything. I do have the UAC left on on this machine. I had
it turned off in Vista because it went off with everything and was just a
PITA.
So even with me running the Admin account, I take it something I did not
ask for would still make the box pop up for me then? Since I got Win.7 the
reason I left the UAC alone is that is about the only time it still pops up,
is when I am loading something new. Even stuff loaded from the MS site, sets
it off asking me to OK it.
So if some malware is going to set off the UAC, that's good enough for me.
--
Hard work pays off in the future. Laziness pays off now.
 
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Pulse

Flightless Bird
You can run *with* a password, but set up Windows to automatically log you
on, so you don't need to type it in each time you boot. You can also clear
the screen saver's password requirement. Voila - the security of a password
without having to type it in all the time.



"ECLiPSE 2002" <fdm2000@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:d0rao5dft4qgkgmc4qv5a79m4hd2m2r64t@4ax.com...
> New to using Win 7 Home Premium. I am the sole user of the PC and see
> no purpose in clicking a user login each time I start windows. Is
> there a way to go directly to windows without the login?
>
> TIA
>
> Mary
 
K

Ken Blake, MVP

Flightless Bird
On Fri, 26 Feb 2010 18:50:51 -0500, "Pulse" <pulse@nospam.net> wrote:

> You can run *with* a password, but set up Windows to automatically log you
> on, so you don't need to type it in each time you boot. You can also clear
> the screen saver's password requirement. Voila - the security of a password
> without having to type it in all the time.



Why do you think having a password to log you on without your having
to know and enter it provides the security of a password?

--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003
Please Reply to the Newsgroup
 
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Pulse

Flightless Bird
Prevents anyone from logging onto resources etc. etc. via a network or some
such etc. etc. so a password is better than no password, even if logon is
automated.



"Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in message
news:s4ogo5511bh545tre9c2m0snjf98vehkke@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 26 Feb 2010 18:50:51 -0500, "Pulse" <pulse@nospam.net> wrote:
>
>> You can run *with* a password, but set up Windows to automatically log
>> you
>> on, so you don't need to type it in each time you boot. You can also
>> clear
>> the screen saver's password requirement. Voila - the security of a
>> password
>> without having to type it in all the time.

>
>
> Why do you think having a password to log you on without your having
> to know and enter it provides the security of a password?
>
> --
> Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003
> Please Reply to the Newsgroup
 
K

Ken Blake, MVP

Flightless Bird
On Fri, 26 Feb 2010 19:06:08 -0500, "Pulse" <pulse@nospam.net> wrote:

> Prevents anyone from logging onto resources etc. etc. via a network or some
> such etc. etc. so a password is better than no password, even if logon is
> automated.



Yes, with networks, this can well be the case. But as a general rule,
for most people, there's *no* value to having a password used in such
a way.


> "Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in message
> news:s4ogo5511bh545tre9c2m0snjf98vehkke@4ax.com...
> > On Fri, 26 Feb 2010 18:50:51 -0500, "Pulse" <pulse@nospam.net> wrote:
> >
> >> You can run *with* a password, but set up Windows to automatically log
> >> you
> >> on, so you don't need to type it in each time you boot. You can also
> >> clear
> >> the screen saver's password requirement. Voila - the security of a
> >> password
> >> without having to type it in all the time.

> >
> >
> > Why do you think having a password to log you on without your having
> > to know and enter it provides the security of a password?
> >
> > --
> > Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003
> > Please Reply to the Newsgroup


--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003
Please Reply to the Newsgroup
 
P

Pulse

Flightless Bird
It's a just a rule of thumb with me - a password is better than no password.
And yes, agreed, situations differ.



"Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in message
news:rnogo5lm2nruq87dgve9hec0smo6fdbaak@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 26 Feb 2010 19:06:08 -0500, "Pulse" <pulse@nospam.net> wrote:
>
>> Prevents anyone from logging onto resources etc. etc. via a network or
>> some
>> such etc. etc. so a password is better than no password, even if logon is
>> automated.

>
>
> Yes, with networks, this can well be the case. But as a general rule,
> for most people, there's *no* value to having a password used in such
> a way.
>
>
>> "Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in message
>> news:s4ogo5511bh545tre9c2m0snjf98vehkke@4ax.com...
>> > On Fri, 26 Feb 2010 18:50:51 -0500, "Pulse" <pulse@nospam.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >> You can run *with* a password, but set up Windows to automatically log
>> >> you
>> >> on, so you don't need to type it in each time you boot. You can also
>> >> clear
>> >> the screen saver's password requirement. Voila - the security of a
>> >> password
>> >> without having to type it in all the time.
>> >
>> >
>> > Why do you think having a password to log you on without your having
>> > to know and enter it provides the security of a password?
>> >
>> > --
>> > Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003
>> > Please Reply to the Newsgroup

>
> --
> Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003
> Please Reply to the Newsgroup
 
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