Both laptop and desktop Vista and W-7....

[Char Jackson]

On Fri, 15 Oct 2010 18:248 -0500, "Valorie *~~"
<ValMcl@invalid.invalid> wrote:

>"Char Jackson" <none@none.invalid> wrote in message
>news:aqpfb6hni0g4tbcq251vhqlje42gqfjd21@4ax.com...
>
>> It would be helpful if you would review the article linked by Nil on
>> how to ask for technical assistance. In addition to all of the general
>> information that's missing from your request and has to be guessed at,
>> we don't know EXACTLY where you're clicking and where/how you're
>> trying to enter the ISP dialing information.
>
>We click on Control Panel/Hardware and Sound/Devices and Printers/USB modem.
>And it sees the modem there. Right-click USB Modem/select dial-up
>networking/create a dial-up connection and then we get the screen that says
>"Windows cannot detect a dial-up modem." Now can you tell us what's wrong
>with these 3 PCs? That's each step we take.

Can you try following the steps outlined in the linked article and
tell us which step is the one that fails? It's slightly different from
how you're currently trying to do it. Whether that makes a difference
or not, I don't know.

<http/support.earthlink.net/articles/dialup/create-a-dial-up-networking-connection-on-windows-7.php>

 

[Leon Manfredi]

Right click Start, ----> Properties ---> Customize

On Fri, 15 Oct 2010 09:40:18 -0500, GlowingBlueMist
<GlowingBlueMist@itruely.invalid> wrote:

>On 10/14/2010 11:59 PM, Valorie *~~ wrote:
>
><snip>
>
>> Just to let you know, there is no icon for My Computer on either Vista
>> or W-7. If it's there MS has it hidden somewhere like the desktop icon.
>>
>
>If you want an icon for Computer, or My Computer (if you rename it) you
>can have one in Windows 7, at least in my Pro version.
>
>Take your mouse into a blank area of your desktop and right click on it.
>In the resulting box scroll down to "Personalize" and left click.
>
>That will bring up a small windows, in that click on "Change desktop
>icons", near the upper left of the window.
>
> From there you can turn on the various icons, including the "Computer"
>icon. Once it is turned on you can later rename the copy that is put on
>your desktop to "MY Computer" if you so choose.
>
>As for the "Show Desktop" icon, on my computer it is on the far right
>lower corner of my taskbar (my taskbar is set to be on the bottom of the
>screen). For what it's worth the icon looks like a small LCD monitor on
>my system.

 

[Valorie *~~]

"GlowingBlueMist" <GlowingBlueMist@itruely.invalid> wrote in message
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> On 10/14/2010 11:59 PM, Valorie *~~ wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
>> Just to let you know, there is no icon for My Computer on either Vista
>> or W-7. If it's there MS has it hidden somewhere like the desktop icon.
>>
>
> If you want an icon for Computer, or My Computer (if you rename it) you
> can have one in Windows 7, at least in my Pro version.
> Take your mouse into a blank area of your desktop and right click on it.
> In the resulting box scroll down to "Personalize" and left click.
> That will bring up a small windows, in that click on "Change desktop
> icons", near the upper left of the window.

> From there you can turn on the various icons, including the "Computer"
> icon. Once it is turned on you can later rename the copy that is put on
> your desktop to "MY Computer" if you so choose.

OK, THAT got it on the desktop. Others here assumed it was already there.
It wasn't.

>
> As for the "Show Desktop" icon, on my computer it is on the far right
> lower corner of my taskbar (my taskbar is set to be on the bottom of the
> screen). For what it's worth the icon looks like a small LCD monitor on
> my system.

On mine also. On Vista it's still a small icon on the taskbar.

 

[Lewis]

In message <4cb8ded7@news.x-privat.org>
Valorie *~~ <ValMcl@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> "Nil" <rednoise@REMOVETHIScomcast.net> wrote in message
> news:Xns9E128339E062nilch1@130.133.4.11...
>> On 15 Oct 2010, "Valorie *~~" <ValMcl@invalid.invalid> wrote in
>> alt.windows7.general:
>>
>>> It's even tougher when the person isn't a techie-type and has
>>> little idea exactly what information may be needed to get help.
>>
>> Did you read the article I suggested about how to ask a good question?
>> You haven't yet followed any of its advice.

> I read it and thought I was asking properly. I can't ask like a tech
> because I'm not a tech. It seems no one here has ever had a problem with
> their dial-up connection or got the "Windows can't detect a modem" error.

I'm dredging up memories from 13 years ago, which is the last time I had
to deal with a dial up networking issue in Windows, and that was Windows
95.

I've never even seen a modem in Windows XP, much less Vista or 7, so
yeah, probably no one here has seen your problem.

I still think whining to the ISP is the most likely way to get it fixed
if they have tech support.

--
I CANNOT ABSOLVE SINS Bart chalkboard Ep. AABF14

 

[Paul]

Valorie *~~ wrote:
> "Nil" <rednoise@REMOVETHIScomcast.net> wrote in message
> news:Xns9E128339E062nilch1@130.133.4.11...
>> On 15 Oct 2010, "Valorie *~~" <ValMcl@invalid.invalid> wrote in
>> alt.windows7.general:
>>
>>> It's even tougher when the person isn't a techie-type and has
>>> little idea exactly what information may be needed to get help.
>>
>> Did you read the article I suggested about how to ask a good question?
>> You haven't yet followed any of its advice.
>
>
> I read it and thought I was asking properly. I can't ask like a tech
> because I'm not a tech. It seems no one here has ever had a problem
> with their dial-up connection or got the "Windows can't detect a modem"
> error.

They have a suggestion here, to try the "Query Modem" button. In
Device Manager, you'd find the hardware entry for the modem,
and then use the query button. If the serial port isn't "busy"
already, you should see the light flash (it if was an external
modem). That is a way of proving serial communications are working.

http://www.dummies.com/how-to/content/how-to-perform-modem-diagnostics-in-windows-vista.html

Other than following their advice there, you'd need to take note
of any error numbers, when it doesn't work. You might see
a three digit number for an error number, for example. Based
on that number, if might be possible to guess at the problem.

The information entered in the Dial Up Networking dialog box,
has to continue to be correct for what you're trying to do.
If some detail changed (say, different COM port), then you'd need
to fix that.

*******

And I do use a dialup modem, but as a backup system. If my
primary provider (ADSL) stops working, I use the dialup modem
to connect to a free ISP, and then web surf to the ADSL
provider to check their hardware status web page, to
see if they think everything is working properly. It gives
me some idea, whether I should be in a hurry to phone them
or not. If they know about the problem, it saves a phone call
and waiting on hold until a tech answers.

I've had problems with the modem. The usual problem is the "serial
port is already in use". That one is a killer to fix. On my
current computer, I have a USB to RS232 adapter, then an external
RS232 dialup modem. And fortunately, the USB to RS232 has a tick box
in its custom control panel, that has fixed my port already
in use problem.

I suggest recording the *exact* wording of the error message
and posting that. Or, if a three digit error number is reports
by dialup networking, you could post that information. For example,
this site has information on various error codes.

http://www.modemsite.com/56k/duns628.asp

The site map, shows a list of DUNS error codes and what they mean.

http://www.modemsite.com/56k/site.asp

Paul

 

[Jim]

Valorie *~~ wrote:
> "GlowingBlueMist" <GlowingBlueMist@itruely.invalid> wrote in message
> news:i99p4h$dbd$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>> On 10/14/2010 11:59 PM, Valorie *~~ wrote:
>>
>> <snip>
>>
>>> Just to let you know, there is no icon for My Computer on either Vista
>>> or W-7. If it's there MS has it hidden somewhere like the desktop icon.
>>>
>>
>> If you want an icon for Computer, or My Computer (if you rename it)
>> you can have one in Windows 7, at least in my Pro version.
>> Take your mouse into a blank area of your desktop and right click on it.
>> In the resulting box scroll down to "Personalize" and left click.
>> That will bring up a small windows, in that click on "Change desktop
>> icons", near the upper left of the window.
>
>> From there you can turn on the various icons, including the "Computer"
>> icon. Once it is turned on you can later rename the copy that is put
>> on your desktop to "MY Computer" if you so choose.
>
> OK, THAT got it on the desktop. Others here assumed it was already
> there. It wasn't.
>
>>
>> As for the "Show Desktop" icon, on my computer it is on the far right
>> lower corner of my taskbar (my taskbar is set to be on the bottom of
>> the screen). For what it's worth the icon looks like a small LCD
>> monitor on my system.
>
> On mine also. On Vista it's still a small icon on the taskbar.
>
>
Valorie,
You have me confused. You said you Use Wild Blue for PC & TV which I
take it is a satellite connection, correct?

Why are you using a dial-up then?

How are you connecting to the internet to do all your posting here?

Jim

 

[Prescott]

On 10/13/2010 8:20 PM, Valorie *~~ wrote:
> "Nil" <rednoise@REMOVETHIScomcast.net> wrote in message
> news:Xns9E10BE0753050nilch1@130.133.4.11...
>> On 13 Oct 2010, "Valorie *~~" <ValMcl@invalid.invalid> wrote in
>> alt.windows7.general:
>>
>>> What details do you need? Yesterday afternoon we could no longer
>>> use dial-up with these 3 computers. We could use dial-up with the
>>> XP computers. The device check says the modems are working but the
>>> 3 PCs can no longer see their modems. What other details do you
>>> need?
>>
>> "Doctor, yesterday I felt good and today I feel bad. What's wrong?"
>>
>> "Mr. Mechanic, yesterday my car ran, today it don't run. Why not?"
>>
>>
>> "We could no longer use dial-up" could mean just about anything. The
>> modems don't respond, they don't connect, they drop the connection,
>> they throw up error messages. What? You don't bother to describe what
>> you're talking about.
>>
>> "The device check". What is that?
>>
>> What did you do since yesterday?
>
> Nothing. No new software on any of the PCs in weeks. Just the usual MS
> updates. When I couldn't connect with Vista again today I turned on the
> laptop with Vista. That one couldn't see it's modem either. So my
> husband added the external modem to the W-7 PC but W-7 can't see the
> (external) modem either. Only the two real old XP machines still see the
> modem and can get inline with dial-up.
>
>>
>> Did you check Windows event viewer for errors?
>
> The "event viewer" said the folder is empty. How do I find the
> information in the event viewer? I had to do a search for it since I
> don't know how else to find it. Is there a special folder I need to find?
>
>> And on and on. Really, don't you know how to ask a question? We can't
>> read your mind.
>>
>> Admit it, you just want people to beg you for stuff, right?
>
> If I knew the answers why would I waste my time here asking? How can I
> know the info you need since I cannot read your mind and am not a
> techie, a geek or a PC nerd?
>
>>
>> If you are actually sincere, please read this:
>>
>> <http/support.microsoft.com/kb/555375>
>
>
Yesterday (Friday the 15th) our laptops at work were updated with the
Microsoft Updates that Microsoft released on the 12th. Friday morning
before the patch install and reboot, we could use vSphere Client to
connect to the VMware Hyper-visors. Since the install and reboot we
cannot connect with machines that have been updated, but we still can
with other machines that have not been updated.

So to answer your assertion that nothing has changed, yes it has.

If you have restore points from before the updates, try restoring one of
the machines that can't find it's modem. That will pretty much tell the
tale.

 

[Valorie *~~]

"Prescott" <Prescott@bogus.com> wrote in message
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> Yesterday (Friday the 15th) our laptops at work were updated with the
> Microsoft Updates that Microsoft released on the 12th. Friday morning
> before the patch install and reboot, we could use vSphere Client to
> connect to the VMware Hyper-visors. Since the install and reboot we
> cannot connect with machines that have been updated, but we still can with
> other machines that have not been updated.
>
> So to answer your assertion that nothing has changed, yes it has.

BRAVO!!!!!!!!!!! The only thing our 3 PCs that can no longer detect their
modems have in common were MS updates! The two old XP PCs that haven't been
updated in who-knows-how-long are still getting online with dial-up fine.

>
> If you have restore points from before the updates, try restoring one of
> the machines that can't find it's modem. That will pretty much tell the
> tale.

We already tried that plus removed the latest MS updates and it didn't help.
We tried several restore points on the Vista desktop that left this PC so
unstable and with so many problems we're now planning a System "Recovery."
If that don't work then we'll reformat the HD and reinstall the OS. A major
PIA. Something we never had to do on the old XP machines.

 

[Valorie *~~]

"Char Jackson" <none@none.invalid> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 15 Oct 2010 17:59:10 -0500, "Valorie *~~"
> <ValMcl@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
>>"Char Jackson" <none@none.invalid> wrote in message
>>news:dnqfb6h7bl2m73ugbp16ka1495qhl1lqq7@4ax.com...
>>
>>> Which part of the country are you in? Maybe someone is willing to make
>>> a road trip.
>>
>>The backwoods of central TN.
>
> Hmm, thanks. Fortunately, I'm far enough away that I don't have to
> admit that I'd be scared to venture into the backwoods of TN and can
> just pretend it's too far away.
>


Think "Deliverance."

 

[Valorie *~~]

"Lewis" <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote in message
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> In message <4cb8ded7@news.x-privat.org>
> Valorie *~~ <ValMcl@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>> "Nil" <rednoise@REMOVETHIScomcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:Xns9E128339E062nilch1@130.133.4.11...
>>> On 15 Oct 2010, "Valorie *~~" <ValMcl@invalid.invalid> wrote in
>>> alt.windows7.general:
>>>
>>>> It's even tougher when the person isn't a techie-type and has
>>>> little idea exactly what information may be needed to get help.
>>>
>>> Did you read the article I suggested about how to ask a good question?
>>> You haven't yet followed any of its advice.
>
>> I read it and thought I was asking properly. I can't ask like a tech
>> because I'm not a tech. It seems no one here has ever had a problem with
>> their dial-up connection or got the "Windows can't detect a modem" error.
>
> I'm dredging up memories from 13 years ago, which is the last time I had
> to deal with a dial up networking issue in Windows, and that was Windows
> 95.
>
> I've never even seen a modem in Windows XP, much less Vista or 7, so
> yeah, probably no one here has seen your problem.

It's hard to believe everyone but myself lives in the country where there's
no DSL or other fast internet. We're 6 miles from the nearest town but the
cable is about 1/2 down at the crossroads. The Cable Co says there aren't
enough people on this side of the lake to make it worthwhile to run it down
here.

>
> I still think whining to the ISP is the most likely way to get it fixed
> if they have tech support.

They'er the next ones to be called. So far HP and Zoom were clueless.

>
> --
> I CANNOT ABSOLVE SINS Bart chalkboard Ep. AABF14

 

[Valorie *~~]

"Paul" <nospam@needed.com> wrote in message
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> Valorie *~~ wrote:
>> "Nil" <rednoise@REMOVETHIScomcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:Xns9E128339E062nilch1@130.133.4.11...
>>> On 15 Oct 2010, "Valorie *~~" <ValMcl@invalid.invalid> wrote in
>>> alt.windows7.general:
>>>
>>>> It's even tougher when the person isn't a techie-type and has
>>>> little idea exactly what information may be needed to get help.
>>>
>>> Did you read the article I suggested about how to ask a good question?
>>> You haven't yet followed any of its advice.
>>
>>
>> I read it and thought I was asking properly. I can't ask like a tech
>> because I'm not a tech. It seems no one here has ever had a problem with
>> their dial-up connection or got the "Windows can't detect a modem" error.
>
> They have a suggestion here, to try the "Query Modem" button. In
> Device Manager, you'd find the hardware entry for the modem,
> and then use the query button. If the serial port isn't "busy"
> already, you should see the light flash (it if was an external
> modem). That is a way of proving serial communications are working.

We did that and it communicated with the modem. But when we try to get
online, we get the "Windows can't detect a modem" error. The PC knows it's
there. Both techs had us do the query thing. When it comes time to dial
the ISP, these 3 PCs can't detect the modem they just communicated with.

>
> http://www.dummies.com/how-to/content/how-to-perform-modem-diagnostics-in-windows-vista.html

OK, did that and it said SUCCESS,.... but then when I tried to get online
it's the same old thing "Windows can't detect a modem." And there is no
"Resource tab of the Modem Properties dialog box" there (W-7 PC). The PC
knows it's there as I said many times before. But when it comes time to get
online with dial-up, it can't detect the modem it knows is there.

Read more:
http://www.dummies.com/how-to/conte...agnostics-in-windows-vista.html#ixzz12YMHZVdz

> Other than following their advice there, you'd need to take note
> of any error numbers, when it doesn't work. You might see
> a three digit number for an error number, for example. Based
> on that number, if might be possible to guess at the problem.

There is no error number, just the small window that comes up and says
"Windows can't detect a modem" and to try again. We try again and get the
same small "can't detect modem" window.

>
> The information entered in the Dial Up Networking dialog box,
> has to continue to be correct for what you're trying to do.
> If some detail changed (say, different COM port), then you'd need
> to fix that.

We can't get that far. When we try to enter the ISPs information that
window comes up and that's as far as we can get.

>
> *******
>
> And I do use a dialup modem, but as a backup system. If my
> primary provider (ADSL) stops working, I use the dialup modem
> to connect to a free ISP, and then web surf to the ADSL
> provider to check their hardware status web page, to
> see if they think everything is working properly. It gives
> me some idea, whether I should be in a hurry to phone them
> or not. If they know about the problem, it saves a phone call
> and waiting on hold until a tech answers.
>
> I've had problems with the modem. The usual problem is the "serial
> port is already in use". That one is a killer to fix. On my
> current computer, I have a USB to RS232 adapter, then an external
> RS232 dialup modem. And fortunately, the USB to RS232 has a tick box
> in its custom control panel, that has fixed my port already
> in use problem.
>
> I suggest recording the *exact* wording of the error message
> and posting that. Or, if a three digit error number is reports
> by dialup networking, you could post that information. For example,
> this site has information on various error codes.

There are no error codes. All it says is "Windows can't detect a modem" and
under that, "Please try again" and somethig like "Try again later." Just
text, no error codes. Now we can't even add our ISP info' because right
away the "no modem detected" small window comes up. We have no chance to
add the information.

>
> http://www.modemsite.com/56k/duns628.asp
>
> The site map, shows a list of DUNS error codes and what they mean.
>
> http://www.modemsite.com/56k/site.asp

This site is beyond my expertise.

>
> Paul

 

[Valorie *~~]

"Paul" <nospam@needed.com> wrote in message
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> I suggest recording the *exact* wording of the error message
> and posting that. Or, if a three digit error number is reports
> by dialup networking, you could post that information. For example,
> this site has information on various error codes.

(Large brevity snip)

What we need is the information as to why Windows can communicate with the
modems on these 3 PCs, but when we try to get online using Dial-up, these
PCs can't detect the modems they can communicate with when queried. This is
the information we can't find Googling or asking here or from the techs at
HP and Zoom.

 

[Valorie *~~]

"John Aldred" <aldred@newvillage.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:XE1uo.508$pG4.105@newsfe11.ams2...
> Valorie *~~ wrote:
>
>
>
>>
>> The external modem we bought for the W-7 PC is a $59 Zoom USB modem from
>> Staples. W-7 can communicate with it just fine but when we try to add
>> our
>> ISP's information we get the same small window we get on the Vista PC's
>> saying "Windows cannot locate a modem." It's exasperating and we can't
>> find help anywhere.
>
> Do you get a message like:
> "Error 797 a connection to the remote access server was not made because
> the
> modem was not found"
> Or do you simply get "Windows cannot locate a modem"?

Just "Windows cannot locate a modem." And under that is said something like
"Try Again" and under that something like "Try again later." When the
Modem's Properties are checked the USB modem Propertie's window says "this
device is working properly." There are no error numbers. A quiry brings
Success.

>
> When you say W-7 can communicate with the modem. Did you go to
> Control Panel > Phone and Modem > Modem > Properties and then to the
> Diagnostics Tab and the Query Modem button. This should list about 12 "AT"
> commands and replies such as "ATQUV1E0 - Success" and "AT14 - USB Soft
> Data/Fax Modem"

Yes, we did that several times on all 3 PCs. We get SUCCESS every time.
The PCs can communicate with the modems (when queried) until we try to get
online. Then it can't detect them.

>
> So if Windows is seeing the modem and can communicate with it, is Dial-up
> Networking configured to use this modem?

Yes, there have been no changes. But when he tried to reenter the dial-up
ISP's info, he couldn't because the "Windows can't detect a modem" window
pops ups with no error codes, just text. W-7 didn't come with a modem, HP
figuring the 40% of Americans with dial-up can buy their own modems which we
did. But the same thing happens on W-7 with the external modem as with the
Vista PCs with internal modems.

>
> If you can right click on your Dial-up Networking connection and open up
> the
> Properties box you should see the same modem listed there as is shown
> under
> Modems in the second paragraph. This should also be the same modem as is
> shown in Device Manager.

On VISTA: There is nothing there under properties for a modem. It's just a
shortcut on the desktop. When I click it now to connect it says "Peoplepc
cannot be found." But if we try to add the info for peoplepc, we get the
"Windows cannot detect a modem" window and that's as far as we can get. So
we can no longer add the info for Peoplepc on the Vista PCs since they
cannot detect their own internal modems although they find them when
"queried."

On W-7: We can't even get peoplepc info installed because as soon as we try
to add it, we get the ""Windows can't detect a modem" window. OK, I got the
window to come up. It says, "Is the modem connected" and "Is the modem
switched on". Under that it says "Try again" and under that, "Set up a
connection anyway." When I try to set up a connection anyway, I can't since
I then get the "Windows can't detect a modem" window with that text under
it.

> The only other thing that I can suggest is to ring your ISP and ask if
> others are reporting the same problem.

There is no problem getting online with this ISP with the two old XP PCs so
it can't be the ISP. Only the W-7 and two Vista PCs have the same problem.


>
> Best of luck
>
> --
> John

 

[Valorie *~~]

"NQ" <NQ@midwest.com> wrote in message
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> On 10/15/2010 6:27 PM, Valorie *~~ wrote:
>> "Lewis" <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote in message
>> news:slrnibfu9q.18ij.g.kreme@cerebus.kreme.com...
>>> In message <4cb7e2a5@news.x-privat.org> Valorie *~~
>>> <ValMcl@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>> "Brian" <no@email.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:i984nq$n4p$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>>>>> It sounds like the problem I encountered once. Vista and 7 have the
>>>>> added feature of being able to update DRIVERS through Windows
>>>>> Update, that is how my dialup connection was screwed up
>>>>>
>>>>> IF THIS IS ALSO THE CASE WITH YOU, you need to "roll back" the driver:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1- right-click on "my computer" and choose "manage".
>>>
>>>> Just to let you know, there is no icon for My Computer on either
>>>> Vista or W-7. If it's there MS has it hidden somewhere like the
>>>> desktop icon.
>>>
>>> It's in the sidebar... er, navigation bar.
>>
>> The left-hand side bar on both W-7 and both Vistas does not have
>> anything called "My computer." I just looked. Could there be a new name
>> for it? Or how else can it be located? I remember a "My Computer" on the
>> XP PCs. It was an icon on the desktop.
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> The new Death raised his cowl. There was no face there. There was not
>>> even a skull. Smoke curled formlessly between the robe and a golden
>>> crown. Bill Door raised himself on his elbows. A CROWN? His voice
>>> shook with rage. I NEVER WORE A CROWN! You never wanted to rule.
>>
>>
>
> W7 version of XP's "My Computer" is called "Computer"--ummm if you had
> attempted to click onto "Computer" you would of noted that it is the same
> as XP's My Computer.
>
> You"ll find Computer by clicking onto the Start icon and looking in the
> right column of the Start menu for "Computer".


As I said before. There was nothing there called Computer or My Computer
until that other poster told me how to make it show.

 

[Valorie *~~]

"Jim" <James.Dell@SBCGlobal.net> wrote in message
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> Valorie *~~ wrote:
>> "GlowingBlueMist" <GlowingBlueMist@itruely.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:i99p4h$dbd$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>>> On 10/14/2010 11:59 PM, Valorie *~~ wrote:
>>>
>>> <snip>
>>>
>>>> Just to let you know, there is no icon for My Computer on either Vista
>>>> or W-7. If it's there MS has it hidden somewhere like the desktop icon.
>>>>
>>>
>>> If you want an icon for Computer, or My Computer (if you rename it)
>>> you can have one in Windows 7, at least in my Pro version.
>>> Take your mouse into a blank area of your desktop and right click on it.
>>> In the resulting box scroll down to "Personalize" and left click.
>>> That will bring up a small windows, in that click on "Change desktop
>>> icons", near the upper left of the window.
>>
>>> From there you can turn on the various icons, including the "Computer"
>>> icon. Once it is turned on you can later rename the copy that is put
>>> on your desktop to "MY Computer" if you so choose.
>>
>> OK, THAT got it on the desktop. Others here assumed it was already
>> there. It wasn't.
>>
>>>
>>> As for the "Show Desktop" icon, on my computer it is on the far right
>>> lower corner of my taskbar (my taskbar is set to be on the bottom of
>>> the screen). For what it's worth the icon looks like a small LCD
>>> monitor on my system.
>>
>> On mine also. On Vista it's still a small icon on the taskbar.
>>
>>

> Valorie,
> You have me confused. You said you Use Wild Blue for PC & TV which I take
> it is a satellite connection, correct?

We use DirecTV for TV and Wildblue for our PC service. Those two are
Satellite services. We use Peoplepc for dial-up backup.

>
> Why are you using a dial-up then?

Because when it rains, drizzles or snows we lose the PC signal. Sometimes
we lose the signal when the sky is clear. We then use our backup dial-up.

>
> How are you connecting to the internet to do all your posting here?

On the Satellite service and one of the Vista machines we plan to do a
system restore on this evening. If it was raining I would have to use one
of the old XP machines now.

>
> Jim

 

[Jack]

"Valorie *~~" <ValMcl@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
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> "Prescott" <Prescott@bogus.com> wrote in message
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>
>> Yesterday (Friday the 15th) our laptops at work were updated with the
>> Microsoft Updates that Microsoft released on the 12th. Friday morning
>> before the patch install and reboot, we could use vSphere Client to
>> connect to the VMware Hyper-visors. Since the install and reboot we
>> cannot connect with machines that have been updated, but we still can
>> with other machines that have not been updated.
>>
>> So to answer your assertion that nothing has changed, yes it has.
>
> BRAVO!!!!!!!!!!! The only thing our 3 PCs that can no longer detect their
> modems have in common were MS updates! The two old XP PCs that haven't
> been updated in who-knows-how-long are still getting online with dial-up
> fine.
>
>>
>> If you have restore points from before the updates, try restoring one of
>> the machines that can't find it's modem. That will pretty much tell the
>> tale.
>
> We already tried that plus removed the latest MS updates and it didn't
> help. We tried several restore points on the Vista desktop that left this
> PC so unstable and with so many problems we're now planning a System
> "Recovery." If that don't work then we'll reformat the HD and reinstall
> the OS. A major PIA. Something we never had to do on the old XP
> machines.

Probably several million installed those updates; many thousands with dialup
modems. Strange that only you have constant problems with everything on your
PCs, yet you're not doing anything at all to cause the problems. Maybe you
shouldn't have computers.

 

[Ed Cryer]

On 13/10/2010 21:48, Valorie *~~ wrote:
> Both laptop and desktop Vista PCs, including the new W-7 will no longer
> work with dial-up. What MS update did this to our 3 PCs? Yes, it still
> works on XP but we don't use the old XP PC anymore. How do we get
> dial-up back on Vista and W-7?


Have you tried reinstalling the modem?

Ed

 

[John Aldred]

Valorie *~~ wrote:


>>
>> Do you get a message like:
>> "Error 797 a connection to the remote access server was not made because
>> the
>> modem was not found"
>> Or do you simply get "Windows cannot locate a modem"?
>
> Just "Windows cannot locate a modem." And under that is said something
> like
> "Try Again" and under that something like "Try again later." When the
> Modem's Properties are checked the USB modem Propertie's window says "this
> device is working properly." There are no error numbers. A quiry brings
> Success.
>

I've managed to duplicate the message that you are getting.
Namely "Windows cannot locate a modem" and "Try again"
on my W7 machine. But only by unplugging the USB modem!!

I found some old postings in Microsoft TechNet Forums from Vista users in
2007 and 2008. They were complaining that Dial-up Networking suddenly
stopped working. They received various error messages - but nobody came up
with an answer to the problem. I believe that two people reported that they
had fixed it by re-installing Vista - rather a time consuming activity.

You could try uninstalling the modem(s) and reinstalling the drivers (and
looking for updated drivers) - but I guess you would already have tried
that.

--
John

 

[Gene E. Bloch]

On Wed, 13 Oct 2010 15:48:41 -0500, Valorie *~~ wrote:

> Both laptop and desktop Vista PCs, including the new W-7 will no longer work
> with dial-up. What MS update did this to our 3 PCs? Yes, it still works on
> XP but we don't use the old XP PC anymore. How do we get dial-up back on
> Vista and W-7?

Do you have more than one modem connected to the phone line?

--
Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

 

[Nil]

On 16 Oct 2010, John Aldred <aldred@newvillage.demon.co.uk> wrote in
alt.windows7.general:

> You could try uninstalling the modem(s) and reinstalling the
> drivers (and looking for updated drivers) - but I guess you would
> already have tried that.

I'm sure she has NOT tried that.