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Best email program for Win 7?

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KCB

Flightless Bird
"DanS" <t.h.i.s.n.t.h.a.t@r.o.a.d.r.u.n.n.e.r.c.o.m> wrote in message
news:Xns9D6D81D3CF524thisnthatroadrunnern@216.196.97.131...
> "Thip" <me@privacy.net> wrote in
> news:848c8oFj0hU1@mid.individual.net:
>
>> "Tony Yarwood" <tonyyarwood@XXXclara.co.uk> wrote in
>> message news:4bdef33b$0$16209$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com...
>>>
>>> On Mon, 3 May 2010 11:40:00 -0400, "Thip" <me@privacy.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hotmail can be downloaded straight into T'bird now that
>>> they've enabled pop.
>>>
>>> Settings are;
>>> pop3.live.com
>>> Port; 995
>>>
>>> HTH
>>>
>>> Best regards
>>>
>>> Tony
>>>

>>
>> I know; I've done that. But it won't download all the
>> separate folders I've created over time.

>
> I don't understand.....
>
> In TB, each account has a section about where to put
> messages.....
>
> .....and then there's also mail filters, which will allow you
> to move/copy messgaes when received to, ti looks like, any
> folder at all.
>
> Are you saying that the message filters don't work using a
> Hotmail POP configuration ?


I think what he is saying is that he created multiple extra folders on
Hotmail, and he CAN get his mail in TBird, but it does not create and
populate the many extra folders. Maybe TBird just downloads the inbox? I
haven't used it in years, so I can't remember if it will, or not. The way I
used to get around this issue previously was to disable all my filters
functioning thru Hotmail, so that all the mail goes to the inbox. I then
re-created my extra folders and filters, locally, with my email program of
choice. Hotmail went thru a period of time that made it very difficult to
get your mail unless you were at their site on a browser. It no longer
functions this way.
 
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Thip

Flightless Bird
"KCB" <bcgc_qc@hootmail.com> wrote in message
news:hrnakg$4b6$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>> I think what he is saying is that he created multiple extra folders on

> Hotmail, and he CAN get his mail in TBird, but it does not create and
> populate the many extra folders. Maybe TBird just downloads the inbox?


Correct.
 
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Leon Manfredi

Flightless Bird
....... Without Question ........

On Mon, 03 May 2010 20:09:20 +0200, montfort@somewhere.com wrote:

>On Mon, 03 May 2010 09:22:12 -0400, Tim Slattery wrote:
>
>old Eudora is still the best one
 
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Leon Manfredi

Flightless Bird
........ This follow up via "Agent" ...... best ever for newsgroups
"Eudora" .... for emails...
Tried all other ..... these oldies still the very best ......


On Mon, 03 May 2010 16:12:39 +0100, Stephen Wolstenholme <steve@tropheus.demon.co.uk>
wrote:

>On Mon, 03 May 2010 10:25:00 -0400, JJG <not@anywhere.com> wrote:
>
>>I tried Live Mail as a replacement for OE but did not like it one bit.
>>

>
>I didn't like Live Mail either. I have never used OE so I can't
>compare them. I've use Agent for both newsgroups and email since 1995
>and IMO nothing else compares.
>
>Steve
 
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Antares 531

Flightless Bird
On Mon, 3 May 2010 12:32:06 +0100, "Kenny" <me@privacy.net> wrote:

>Been used to OE for a long time, now looking for an alternative, suggestions
>and comments appreciated
>
>Kenny
>

I tried Windows Live and gave up on it. I don't like the vague blurry
color theme and also it provides no means for locking a folder such
that it can't be inadvertently deleted. Twice, I thought I had a
message highlighted but actually I had the entire Inbox folder
highlighted. When I hit the Shift - Delete keys the whole folder was
trashed.

After the second incident of this I bought a copy of Forte Agent and
have been using it since. I like it MUCH better, and the color scheme
is such that I can easily tell at a glance which item is highlighted.
More importantly, Agent lets me lock files and folders, then they
can't be inadvertently deleted. To delete a file or folder I have to
unlock it first.

Gordon
 
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Roy Smith

Flightless Bird
On 5/3/2010 7:02 AM, Thip wrote:
> "Kenny" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
> news:_NOdnVYvdpurKUPWnZ2dnUVZ7oWdnZ2d@brightview.com...
>> Been used to OE for a long time, now looking for an alternative,
>> suggestions and comments appreciated
>>
>> Kenny

>
> "Best" is subjective. What's best for you is whatever suits your
> needs. I ended up with Windows Live Mail. I don't exactly like it but
> I dislike it less than the others I tried. It was the only one that
> sorted my various e-mail accounts into separate folders.


Thunderbird can put your emails into separate folders for each account
or use a global inbox. The default for TBird 2 was to use a global
inbox, and TBird 3 has separate inboxes by default. It's just a matter
of knowing where to look in order to change the default setting.

--

Roy Smith
Windows XP Pro SP3

Timestamp: Monday, May 03, 2010 7:30:58 PM
 
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John Morrison

Flightless Bird
On Mon, 03 May 2010 20:09:20 +0200, montfort@somewhere.com wrote:

>On Mon, 03 May 2010 09:22:12 -0400, Tim Slattery wrote:
>
>old Eudora is still the best one


I'm also using Eudora currently 7.1.0.9 (the final version)
--

John
 
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John Morrison

Flightless Bird
On Mon, 03 May 2010 16:12:39 +0100, Stephen Wolstenholme
<steve@tropheus.demon.co.uk> wrote:

>On Mon, 03 May 2010 10:25:00 -0400, JJG <not@anywhere.com> wrote:
>
>>I tried Live Mail as a replacement for OE but did not like it one bit.
>>

>
>I didn't like Live Mail either. I have never used OE so I can't
>compare them. I've use Agent for both newsgroups and email since 1995
>and IMO nothing else compares.


I also use Agent but only for newsgroups.
Can Agent send HTML email messages to a browser?
--

John
 
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John Morrison

Flightless Bird
On Mon, 3 May 2010 20:19:20 +0100, "johnbee"
<johnbrockbank@virginmedia.com> wrote:

>
>I tried Thunderbird but couldn't get it to work and the people who are
>supposed to help are damn snooty and would not explain things. They were
>the same when I tried out the web browser a couple of years ago as well.
>Windows Live mail takes a bit of getting used to after OE but it is OK for
>Usenet and would be fine if the windows could be arranged - I can't imagine
>why they didn't allow that as it is a trivial thing to program. ( I must
>admit though, after OE it is a big relief not to get 100 spams a day on my
>new ISP - don't know how long that will last but the anti spam looks good.)


Windows OE introduced Top Posting which is a pain the arse.

If "johnbee" <johnbrockbank@virginmedia.com>" is a valid email address
you will get plenty of spam after using it in a newsgroup, if so I
suggest you change it something like: <johnbrockbank@com.invalid>

As you will see I use: John Morrison <the_morrisons@com.invalid>

I've been around for year or two and still use Eudora for email and
Agent for newsgroups.

I don't use Thunderbird but I welcome you to reply and surely some of
the Thunderbird users will give you heaps of help.
--

John
 
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Tim Slattery

Flightless Bird
John Morrison <the_morrisons@com.invalid> wrote:

>I also use Agent but only for newsgroups.
>Can Agent send HTML email messages to a browser?


Nothing can send email to a browser, a browser doesn't receive email.
There are web-based email systems like Hotmail, they receive mail and
send it to your browser in the form of an HTML page.

But to your actual question...no, the current version of Agent has no
way to compose an HTML message, either for a Usenet post or for email.
It will properly show HTML messages that it receives. Pegasus
(www.pmail.com) lets you compose rich text messages. It's an email
client with no NNTP capability.

--
Tim Slattery
Slattery_T@bls.gov
http://members.cox.net/slatteryt
 
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Charles Tomaras

Flightless Bird
"Kenny" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:_NOdnVYvdpurKUPWnZ2dnUVZ7oWdnZ2d@brightview.com...
> Been used to OE for a long time, now looking for an alternative,
> suggestions and comments appreciated
>
> Kenny


Microsoft has a program called Outlook that many people use. New version
being released with Office 2010.
 
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Don Wiss

Flightless Bird
On Mon, 03 May 2010 13:53:54 +0200, Coyote errant
<5636@libre_en_français.fr.invalid> wrote:

>Kenny avait prétendu :
>> Been used to OE for a long time, now looking for an alternative, suggestions
>> and comments appreciated

>
>> Kenny

>
>Windows live mail replace OE. Thunderbird is better.


And the old Eudora 7.1 will do circles around Thunderbird:
http://eudora.com/
To activate the Pro version use:

FirstName: Generic
LastName: User
Registration: 3291578383333015

Don <www.donwiss.com> (e-mail link at home page bottom).
 
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Don Wiss

Flightless Bird
On Mon, 03 May 2010, Leon Manfredi <manfred@toast.net> wrote:

>....... This follow up via "Agent" ...... best ever for newsgroups
> "Eudora" .... for emails...
> Tried all other ..... these oldies still the very best ......


Yes. I see no reason to combine e-mail and news into one package. They are
so different you end up with compromises. People are trying to turn
Thunderbird into an Eudora replacement. In the Eudora newsgroup they make
it clear there is a long way to go until Thunderbird has all the features
that Eudora has had for years.

Don <www.donwiss.com> (e-mail link at home page bottom).
 
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Stephen Wolstenholme

Flightless Bird
On Wed, 05 May 2010 10:25:22 -0400, Don Wiss <donwiss@no_spam.com>
wrote:

>Yes. I see no reason to combine e-mail and news into one package. They are
>so different you end up with compromises.


That's true with most application but I find Agent does a great job
with both news and email. It files email in any way required and
threads email lists so they look like news. The junk detection in
Agent is so good that it doesn't need filters.

Steve

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johnbee

Flightless Bird
"John Morrison" <the_morrisons@com.invalid> wrote in message
news:4bdfcb05$0$5258$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com...
> On Mon, 3 May 2010 20:19:20 +0100, "johnbee"
> <johnbrockbank@virginmedia.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>I tried Thunderbird but couldn't get it to work and the people who are
>>supposed to help are damn snooty and would not explain things. They were
>>the same when I tried out the web browser a couple of years ago as well.
>>Windows Live mail takes a bit of getting used to after OE but it is OK for
>>Usenet and would be fine if the windows could be arranged - I can't
>>imagine
>>why they didn't allow that as it is a trivial thing to program. ( I must
>>admit though, after OE it is a big relief not to get 100 spams a day on my
>>new ISP - don't know how long that will last but the anti spam looks
>>good.)

>
> Windows OE introduced Top Posting which is a pain the arse.
>
> If "johnbee" <johnbrockbank@virginmedia.com>" is a valid email address
> you will get plenty of spam after using it in a newsgroup, if so I
> suggest you change it something like: <johnbrockbank@com.invalid>
>
> As you will see I use: John Morrison <the_morrisons@com.invalid>
>
> I've been around for year or two and still use Eudora for email and
> Agent for newsgroups.
>
> I don't use Thunderbird but I welcome you to reply and surely some of
> the Thunderbird users will give you heaps of help.
> --
>
> John


Good idea, thanks. I think I have tried that successfully.
 
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johnbee

Flightless Bird
"Antares 531" <gordonlrDELETE@swbell.net> wrote in message
news:jaqut59gur3l8f05bqtgoggaptrl1aavb4@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 3 May 2010 12:32:06 +0100, "Kenny" <me@privacy.net> wrote:
>
>>Been used to OE for a long time, now looking for an alternative,
>>suggestions
>>and comments appreciated
>>
>>Kenny
>>

> I tried Windows Live and gave up on it. I don't like the vague blurry
> color theme and also it provides no means for locking a folder such
> that it can't be inadvertently deleted. Twice, I thought I had a
> message highlighted but actually I had the entire Inbox folder
> highlighted. When I hit the Shift - Delete keys the whole folder was
> trashed.
>
> After the second incident of this I bought a copy of Forte Agent and
> have been using it since. I like it MUCH better, and the color scheme
> is such that I can easily tell at a glance which item is highlighted.
> More importantly, Agent lets me lock files and folders, then they
> can't be inadvertently deleted. To delete a file or folder I have to
> unlock it first.
>
> Gordon


You don't mention this, so I will. At the top right of Windows Live mail
is a brush-looking button, and if clicked on, you can set colours to your
preference. I have no idea why the wishy washy ones are the default.
 
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Gordon

Flightless Bird
On 2010-05-03, Stephen Wolstenholme <steve@tropheus.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> On Mon, 03 May 2010 10:25:00 -0400, JJG <not@anywhere.com> wrote:
>
>>I tried Live Mail as a replacement for OE but did not like it one bit.
>>

>
> I didn't like Live Mail either. I have never used OE so I can't
> compare them. I've use Agent for both newsgroups and email since 1995
> and IMO nothing else compares.
>

Wow 16 years and Agent is still has a strong following. Does that not say
something people. It had a strong following as it was being developed. Read
they got it right first off wuth the help of some keen and interest
people/users who gave feedback. Seems like yesterday. Must be getting old.
 
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Tony Yarwood

Flightless Bird
On Wed, 05 May 2010 10:20:23 -0400, Don Wiss <donwiss@no_spam.com>
wrote:

>On Mon, 03 May 2010 13:53:54 +0200, Coyote errant
><5636@libre_en_français.fr.invalid> wrote:
>
>>Kenny avait prétendu :
>>> Been used to OE for a long time, now looking for an alternative, suggestions
>>> and comments appreciated

>>
>>> Kenny

>>
>>Windows live mail replace OE. Thunderbird is better.

>
>And the old Eudora 7.1 will do circles around Thunderbird:
>http://eudora.com/
>To activate the Pro version use:


And The Bat knocks spots off them all, it's only drawback is
unfortunately, its not free.

Best regards

Tony

Google ain't your friend.
More privacy, no tracking.
http://clusty.com/

I block all articles posted from googlegroups. If you wish your posts
to be seen by everyone you need to find a different method of posting.
 
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Don Wiss

Flightless Bird
On Thu, 06 May 2010, Tony Yarwood <tonyyarwood@XXXclara.co.uk> wrote:

>On Wed, 05 May 2010 10:20:23 -0400, Don Wiss wrote:
>
>>And the old Eudora 7.1 will do circles around Thunderbird:
>>http://eudora.com/
>>To activate the Pro version use:

>
>And The Bat knocks spots off them all, it's only drawback is
>unfortunately, its not free.


What can it do that Eudora Pro can't do? Looking at their site I find it
has multiple address books. A useless feature. And a delayed send. Wow.

Don <www.donwiss.com> (e-mail link at home page bottom).
 
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