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Backup and restore

Discussion in 'Windows 7' started by Dave \Crash\ Dummy, Aug 7, 2010.

  1. Dave \Crash\ Dummy

    Dave \Crash\ Dummy Flightless Bird

    I use Windows backup to save a system image to an external drive once a
    week, but I have to wonder just how good a backup it is. Taking a worst
    case scenario, if my hard drive crashes and has to be replaced, can I
    use the Windows install disk or recovery disk restore the system image
    to the new drive? How much will be restored and how much will be lost?
    Will installed applications be restored?
    --
    Crash

    "The future ain't what it used to be."
    ~ Yogi Berra ~
     
  2. Char Jackson

    Char Jackson Flightless Bird

    On Sat, 07 Aug 2010 08:30:29 -0400, "Dave \"Crash\" Dummy"
    <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    >I use Windows backup to save a system image to an external drive once a
    >week, but I have to wonder just how good a backup it is. Taking a worst
    >case scenario, if my hard drive crashes and has to be replaced, can I
    >use the Windows install disk or recovery disk restore the system image
    >to the new drive? How much will be restored and how much will be lost?
    >Will installed applications be restored?


    The best advice I can offer is to take a spare drive and temporarily
    connect it in place of your normal system drive, then restore one of
    your saved images to that drive. See for yourself that the new drive
    boots properly, and that everything is as you expect.

    More specifically to your question, it's not quite clear to me what is
    meant by a "system image", and perhaps that's why you're asking, too.
    If it's an image of the entire drive, then you should be able to
    restore it to a new drive and off you go, only losing any changes
    you've made since that image was created. However, if "system image"
    means something less than the entire drive, you may find yourself
    disappointed.

    If restoring an image, as a test, is too much to ask, you should at
    least 'explore' one of the images to see what's in it. Also, check the
    program for a description of the backup option you're using, looking
    for something like 'backs up entire drive' rather than 'backs up key
    components'. You can also check the size of the saved image, comparing
    it to the size of the used area of the backed up drive.

    IMHO, though, none of these secondary checks are as good as actually
    slaving in a new drive and trying a full restore. If/when your system
    drive crashes, you'll have to do it anyway, so it's better to know in
    advance how well it's going to work.
     
  3. KCB

    KCB Flightless Bird

    "Dave "Crash" Dummy" <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
    news:xlc7o.44466$Zp1.14870@newsfe15.iad...
    > I use Windows backup to save a system image to an external drive once a
    > week, but I have to wonder just how good a backup it is. Taking a worst
    > case scenario, if my hard drive crashes and has to be replaced, can I
    > use the Windows install disk or recovery disk restore the system image
    > to the new drive? How much will be restored and how much will be lost?
    > Will installed applications be restored?
    > --
    > Crash
    >
    > "The future ain't what it used to be."
    > ~ Yogi Berra ~


    http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows7/Restore-your-computer-from-a-system-image-backup
     
  4. Dave \Crash\ Dummy

    Dave \Crash\ Dummy Flightless Bird

    KCB wrote:
    >
    > "Dave "Crash" Dummy" <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
    > news:xlc7o.44466$Zp1.14870@newsfe15.iad...
    >> I use Windows backup to save a system image to an external drive once a
    >> week, but I have to wonder just how good a backup it is. Taking a worst
    >> case scenario, if my hard drive crashes and has to be replaced, can I
    >> use the Windows install disk or recovery disk restore the system image
    >> to the new drive? How much will be restored and how much will be lost?
    >> Will installed applications be restored?


    > http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows7/Restore-your-computer-from-a-system-image-backup
    >

    Thank you. That pretty much answers my question.
    --
    Crash

    One man's weed is another man's wildflower.
     
  5. wilby

    wilby Flightless Bird

    On 8/7/2010 6:30 AM, Dave "Crash" Dummy wrote:
    > I use Windows backup to save a system image to an external drive once a
    > week, but I have to wonder just how good a backup it is. Taking a worst
    > case scenario, if my hard drive crashes and has to be replaced, can I
    > use the Windows install disk or recovery disk restore the system image
    > to the new drive? How much will be restored and how much will be lost?
    > Will installed applications be restored?


    Dave:
    If you don't think the Win Backup will give you what you want then do this:

    Download and install the freeware version of Macrium Reflect. This
    creates full images of disc partitions and/or complete hard drives.

    Run Macrium and do nothing except to create their bootable Linix CD.
    Label it, do a trial boot from it to make sure it does boot, and save it.

    Now boot Windows and start Macrium and create a full image of your hard
    drive to an external USB or ESATA hard drive. I strongly suggest you do
    a verification of the backed up image.

    At this point you are protected against hard drive crashes. Booting the
    Macrium CD will allow you to create an exact copy of your failed hard
    drive. All you need is a new hard drive installed in place of the failed
    one, it doesn't need to be formatted.

    Now whenever you feel like it you can create a new image. Delete oldest
    images when your external drive begins to fill up.

    I keep images on a few different drives that I store in different places.

    Wilby
     
  6. Dave \Crash\ Dummy

    Dave \Crash\ Dummy Flightless Bird

    wilby wrote:
    > On 8/7/2010 6:30 AM, Dave "Crash" Dummy wrote:
    >> I use Windows backup to save a system image to an external drive
    >> once a week, but I have to wonder just how good a backup it is.
    >> Taking a worst case scenario, if my hard drive crashes and has to
    >> be replaced, can I use the Windows install disk or recovery disk
    >> restore the system image to the new drive? How much will be
    >> restored and how much will be lost? Will installed applications be
    >> restored?

    >
    > Dave: If you don't think the Win Backup will give you what you want
    > then do this:
    >
    > Download and install the freeware version of Macrium Reflect. This
    > creates full images of disc partitions and/or complete hard drives.
    >
    > Run Macrium and do nothing except to create their bootable Linix CD.
    > Label it, do a trial boot from it to make sure it does boot, and
    > save it.
    >
    > Now boot Windows and start Macrium and create a full image of your
    > hard drive to an external USB or ESATA hard drive. I strongly suggest
    > you do a verification of the backed up image.
    >
    > At this point you are protected against hard drive crashes. Booting
    > the Macrium CD will allow you to create an exact copy of your failed
    > hard drive. All you need is a new hard drive installed in place of
    > the failed one, it doesn't need to be formatted.
    >
    > Now whenever you feel like it you can create a new image. Delete
    > oldest images when your external drive begins to fill up.
    >
    > I keep images on a few different drives that I store in different
    > places.
    >
    > Wilby


    Been there, done that. The problem is I will never get in the habit of
    doing that weekly, nor do I want to. I have both Macrium and Paragon
    bootable CD's and images, but they are several months old and will
    probably be several months old if I ever have a catastrophic failure.
    What I read in the link KCB provided assures me that the Windows backup
    image will probably be good enough.
    --
    Crash

    "The real question is not whether machines think but whether men do."
    ~ B. F. Skinner ~
     

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