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*Backing up the pc

Discussion in 'Windows XP' started by Nicdig, Jul 8, 2010.

  1. Nicdig

    Nicdig Flightless Bird

    I want to back up my windows xp computer; but without using: external hard
    drives, cd's, flash drives, etc.
    I want to do the back up that will stay safe on my pc. I would also consider
    also to save the back up online.

    My problem is that I dont know how to do it so this is what I need...
    *A FREE program for the pc or FREE site online that will store this for me
    safely, securely, reliable, etc. Sorry but times are tough. *

    I am looking for ease in the program because I am not very knowledgable on
    doing this. I have used anti virus/spyware programs/ registry cleaners/ etc
    that have an option to back up prior to using the program each time..I click
    and it does a back up..But I dont think that this is the same as doing a
    full back up..
    Main reason: I am going to install the sp3 soon and want to back up, in case
    there is chaos. So before I proceed, I want to do this before hand...

    Please let me know what works for u keeping in mind my needs.
    Thanks in advance.........
     
  2. Peter

    Peter Flightless Bird

    On 07/08/2010 05:11 PM, Nicdig wrote:
    > I want to back up my windows xp computer; but without using: external hard
    > drives, cd's, flash drives, etc.
    > I want to do the back up that will stay safe on my pc. I would also consider
    > also to save the back up online.
    >
    > My problem is that I dont know how to do it so this is what I need...
    > *A FREE program for the pc or FREE site online that will store this for me
    > safely, securely, reliable, etc. Sorry but times are tough. *
    >
    > I am looking for ease in the program because I am not very knowledgable on
    > doing this. I have used anti virus/spyware programs/ registry cleaners/ etc
    > that have an option to back up prior to using the program each time..I click
    > and it does a back up..But I dont think that this is the same as doing a
    > full back up..
    > Main reason: I am going to install the sp3 soon and want to back up, in case
    > there is chaos. So before I proceed, I want to do this before hand...
    >
    > Please let me know what works for u keeping in mind my needs.
    > Thanks in advance.........
    >
    >


    Just set a system restore point before you install SP3. Also do a clean
    up and defrag before hand along with disabling your anti virus resident
    scan and after SP3 is installed, reboot TWICE. If you have any real time
    malware applications, disable them as well before doing the install.

    --
    Peter
     
  3. HeyBub

    HeyBub Flightless Bird

    Nicdig wrote:
    > I want to back up my windows xp computer; but without using: external
    > hard drives, cd's, flash drives, etc.
    > I want to do the back up that will stay safe on my pc. I would also
    > consider also to save the back up online.
    >
    > My problem is that I dont know how to do it so this is what I need...
    > *A FREE program for the pc or FREE site online that will store this
    > for me safely, securely, reliable, etc. Sorry but times are tough. *
    >
    > I am looking for ease in the program because I am not very
    > knowledgable on doing this. I have used anti virus/spyware programs/
    > registry cleaners/ etc that have an option to back up prior to using
    > the program each time..I click and it does a back up..But I dont
    > think that this is the same as doing a full back up..
    > Main reason: I am going to install the sp3 soon and want to back up,
    > in case there is chaos. So before I proceed, I want to do this before
    > hand...
    > Please let me know what works for u keeping in mind my needs.
    > Thanks in advance.........


    Inasmuch as you evidently have more time than money, here's a simple, but
    time-consuming, solution:

    ZIP all your personal data and everything you that cannot be re-installed
    from the web or distribution disks.

    Add this as an attachement to a Google-mail email to yourself.

    Gmail allows a bunch, upwards of 8 gigabytes of storage, for each account.
    Other free email services (Yahoo, Hotmail, etc.) also offer massive storage.
     
  4. Unknown

    Unknown Flightless Bird

    What you're asking for is impossible. A proper backup needs to be
    'external'.
    "Nicdig" <Nic@nic.com> wrote in message
    news:%23KrNp$qHLHA.1972@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
    >I want to back up my windows xp computer; but without using: external hard
    >drives, cd's, flash drives, etc.
    > I want to do the back up that will stay safe on my pc. I would also
    > consider also to save the back up online.
    >
    > My problem is that I dont know how to do it so this is what I need...
    > *A FREE program for the pc or FREE site online that will store this for me
    > safely, securely, reliable, etc. Sorry but times are tough. *
    >
    > I am looking for ease in the program because I am not very knowledgable on
    > doing this. I have used anti virus/spyware programs/ registry cleaners/
    > etc that have an option to back up prior to using the program each time..I
    > click and it does a back up..But I dont think that this is the same as
    > doing a full back up..
    > Main reason: I am going to install the sp3 soon and want to back up, in
    > case there is chaos. So before I proceed, I want to do this before hand...
    >
    > Please let me know what works for u keeping in mind my needs.
    > Thanks in advance.........
    >
     
  5. Bill in Co

    Bill in Co Flightless Bird

    Peter wrote:
    > On 07/08/2010 05:11 PM, Nicdig wrote:
    >> I want to back up my windows xp computer; but without using: external
    >> hard drives, cd's, flash drives, etc.
    >> I want to do the back up that will stay safe on my pc. I would also r
    >> consider also to save the back up online.
    >>
    >> My problem is that I dont know how to do it so this is what I need...
    >> *A FREE program for the pc or FREE site online that will store this for
    >> me
    >> safely, securely, reliable, etc. Sorry but times are tough. *
    >>
    >> I am looking for ease in the program because I am not very knowledgable
    >> on
    >> doing this. I have used anti virus/spyware programs/ registry cleaners/
    >> etc
    >> that have an option to back up prior to using the program each time..I
    >> click
    >> and it does a back up..But I dont think that this is the same as doing a
    >> full back up..
    >> Main reason: I am going to install the sp3 soon and want to back up, in
    >> case there is chaos. So before I proceed, I want to do this before
    >> hand...
    >>
    >> Please let me know what works for u keeping in mind my needs.
    >> Thanks in advance.........
    >>
    >>

    >
    > Just set a system restore point before you install SP3. Also do a clean
    > up and defrag before hand along with disabling your anti virus resident
    > scan and after SP3 is installed, reboot TWICE. If you have any real time
    > malware applications, disable them as well before doing the install.


    Are you sure System Restore would be able to successfully restore back to
    SP2 if that's what he wanted to do? (I just have some doubts, due to the
    extent of changes made when SP3 is installed).

    The real solution to his situation is to use disk imaging or disk cloning,
    which requires another HD. That way if anything goes awry, he can be back
    to his original SP2 installation without incident. If he doesn't want to
    do that, then all bets are off. And $50 for such a program ... is *well
    worth it*. :)
     
  6. Randem

    Randem Flightless Bird

  7. Nick L. Odeon

    Nick L. Odeon Flightless Bird

    Learn how to properly reply in a newsgroup.

    "Randem" <newsgroups@randem.com> wrote in message
    news:eMcTUetHLHA.5920@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
    : If you are going to install SP3 and you are worried about other program
    : affecting the installaion, boot into safe mode then install it. Of course
    : you would need to download the SP3 installation first...
    :
    :
     
  8. Steve Cochran

    Steve Cochran Flightless Bird

    What will you do if your hard drive fails? Your backup will be gone. Backup to another device. And what are you backing up? You need to find the files you wish to save and then copy them to the backup device. For instance, if you use OE, you need to backup you files and settings (see www.oehelp.com/backup.aspx and www.oehelp.com/OEBackup/).

    steve

    "Nicdig" <Nic@nic.com> wrote in message news:%23KrNp$qHLHA.1972@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
    >I want to back up my windows xp computer; but without using: external hard
    > drives, cd's, flash drives, etc.
    > I want to do the back up that will stay safe on my pc. I would also consider
    > also to save the back up online.
    >
    > My problem is that I dont know how to do it so this is what I need...
    > *A FREE program for the pc or FREE site online that will store this for me
    > safely, securely, reliable, etc. Sorry but times are tough. *
    >
    > I am looking for ease in the program because I am not very knowledgable on
    > doing this. I have used anti virus/spyware programs/ registry cleaners/ etc
    > that have an option to back up prior to using the program each time..I click
    > and it does a back up..But I dont think that this is the same as doing a
    > full back up..
    > Main reason: I am going to install the sp3 soon and want to back up, in case
    > there is chaos. So before I proceed, I want to do this before hand...
    >
    > Please let me know what works for u keeping in mind my needs.
    > Thanks in advance.........
    >
    >
     
  9. Paul

    Paul Flightless Bird

    Nicdig wrote:
    > I want to back up my windows xp computer; but without using: external hard
    > drives, cd's, flash drives, etc.
    > I want to do the back up that will stay safe on my pc. I would also consider
    > also to save the back up online.
    >
    > My problem is that I dont know how to do it so this is what I need...
    > *A FREE program for the pc or FREE site online that will store this for me
    > safely, securely, reliable, etc. Sorry but times are tough. *
    >
    > I am looking for ease in the program because I am not very knowledgable on
    > doing this. I have used anti virus/spyware programs/ registry cleaners/ etc
    > that have an option to back up prior to using the program each time..I click
    > and it does a back up..But I dont think that this is the same as doing a
    > full back up..
    > Main reason: I am going to install the sp3 soon and want to back up, in case
    > there is chaos. So before I proceed, I want to do this before hand...
    >
    > Please let me know what works for u keeping in mind my needs.
    > Thanks in advance.........
    >
    >


    If you back up online, to some small startup company or the like,
    even if the backup was encrypted, they'd have all the time in the
    world to try to decrypt your storage. If you're at all paranoid,
    online backup is not the answer. (I have the same concern about
    some postings I've seen recently, offering a "free proxy server".
    The opportunities to extract passwords, bank details, game account
    info, and the like, is endless. That's why they don't charge for
    their "free service".)

    Start by having a look at the storage available on your computer.
    How much "free space" do you have ? Perhaps you can save an image
    of your working files on C:, and store them on C: as a backup file.
    SP3 may have many potential failure modes, but erasing C: likely isn't
    one of them. So if you don't have the resources for external hard
    drives and the like, instead look at your free and used space.

    Just double click "My Computer", and have a look at the statistics.
    That'll give you some idea if there is room to do the job with
    what you've already paid for.

    Paul
     
  10. John John - MVP

    John John - MVP Flightless Bird

    Why do you strip all your posts of any quoted text? When replying to
    posts you should at least keep relevant parts of the post to which you
    are replying!

    Randem wrote:
    > If you are going to install SP3 and you are worried about other program
    > affecting the installaion, boot into safe mode then install it. Of course
    > you would need to download the SP3 installation first...
    >
    > Backup info: http://www.randem.com/backingupyourcomputersdata.html
    >
    >
     
  11. Nick L. Odeon

    Nick L. Odeon Flightless Bird

    Exactly, John!!!

    "John John - MVP" <audetweld@nbnot.nb.ca> wrote in message
    news:-OktHoKuHLHA.4596@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
    : Why do you strip all your posts of any quoted text? When replying to
    : posts you should at least keep relevant parts of the post to which you
    : are replying!
    :
    : Randem wrote:
    : > If you are going to install SP3 and you are worried about other program
    : > affecting the installaion, boot into safe mode then install it. Of
    course
    : > you would need to download the SP3 installation first...
    : >
    : > Backup info: http://www.randem.com/backingupyourcomputersdata.html
    : >
    : >
     
  12. Daave

    Daave Flightless Bird

    It appears that Randem makes a special effort to be both confusing and
    annoying. Perhaps he doesn't understand how Usenet works. Or maybe he
    just doesn't care.

    John John - MVP wrote:
    > Why do you strip all your posts of any quoted text? When replying to
    > posts you should at least keep relevant parts of the post to which you
    > are replying!
    >
    > Randem wrote:
    >> If you are going to install SP3 and you are worried about other
    >> program affecting the installaion, boot into safe mode then install
    >> it. Of course you would need to download the SP3 installation
    >> first... Backup info:
    >> http://www.randem.com/backingupyourcomputersdata.html
     
  13. Paul

    Paul Flightless Bird

    Daave wrote:
    > It appears that Randem makes a special effort to be both confusing and
    > annoying. Perhaps he doesn't understand how Usenet works. Or maybe he
    > just doesn't care.
    >
    > John John - MVP wrote:
    >> Why do you strip all your posts of any quoted text? When replying to
    >> posts you should at least keep relevant parts of the post to which you
    >> are replying!
    >>
    >> Randem wrote:
    >>> If you are going to install SP3 and you are worried about other
    >>> program affecting the installaion, boot into safe mode then install
    >>> it. Of course you would need to download the SP3 installation
    >>> first... Backup info:
    >>> http://www.randem.com/backingupyourcomputersdata.html

    >


    Lately, a few of the threads on my server, haven't been
    complete. In such a situation, it helps *a lot*, if the
    original post or some context, is present in the answers.

    In an ideal world, a server would never lose posts, but
    I've noticed some problems recently on two of my USENET
    servers. I think some Google Groups posters went missing,
    while the regulars answering the posters, still showed up. To
    hope to reconstruct the thread, does require some
    context.

    Paul
     
  14. Unknown

    Unknown Flightless Bird

    I doubt he is configured to include the message in his response. He doesn't
    know how.
    "John John - MVP" <audetweld@nbnot.nb.ca> wrote in message
    news:-OktHoKuHLHA.4596@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
    > Why do you strip all your posts of any quoted text? When replying to
    > posts you should at least keep relevant parts of the post to which you are
    > replying!
    >
    > Randem wrote:
    >> If you are going to install SP3 and you are worried about other program
    >> affecting the installaion, boot into safe mode then install it. Of course
    >> you would need to download the SP3 installation first...
    >>
    >> Backup info: http://www.randem.com/backingupyourcomputersdata.html
    >>
     
  15. s-sandra@btconnect.com

    s-sandra@btconnect.com Flightless Bird

    On Thu, 8 Jul 2010 08:11:56 -0700, just as I was about to take a herb,
    "Nicdig" <Nic@nic.com> disturbed my reverie and wrote:

    >I want to do the back up that will stay safe on my pc


    That's an oxymoron, you moron.
     

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