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*Backing up the pc

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Nicdig

Flightless Bird
I want to back up my windows xp computer; but without using: external hard
drives, cd's, flash drives, etc.
I want to do the back up that will stay safe on my pc. I would also consider
also to save the back up online.

My problem is that I dont know how to do it so this is what I need...
*A FREE program for the pc or FREE site online that will store this for me
safely, securely, reliable, etc. Sorry but times are tough. *

I am looking for ease in the program because I am not very knowledgable on
doing this. I have used anti virus/spyware programs/ registry cleaners/ etc
that have an option to back up prior to using the program each time..I click
and it does a back up..But I dont think that this is the same as doing a
full back up..
Main reason: I am going to install the sp3 soon and want to back up, in case
there is chaos. So before I proceed, I want to do this before hand...

Please let me know what works for u keeping in mind my needs.
Thanks in advance.........
 
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Peter

Flightless Bird
On 07/08/2010 05:11 PM, Nicdig wrote:
> I want to back up my windows xp computer; but without using: external hard
> drives, cd's, flash drives, etc.
> I want to do the back up that will stay safe on my pc. I would also consider
> also to save the back up online.
>
> My problem is that I dont know how to do it so this is what I need...
> *A FREE program for the pc or FREE site online that will store this for me
> safely, securely, reliable, etc. Sorry but times are tough. *
>
> I am looking for ease in the program because I am not very knowledgable on
> doing this. I have used anti virus/spyware programs/ registry cleaners/ etc
> that have an option to back up prior to using the program each time..I click
> and it does a back up..But I dont think that this is the same as doing a
> full back up..
> Main reason: I am going to install the sp3 soon and want to back up, in case
> there is chaos. So before I proceed, I want to do this before hand...
>
> Please let me know what works for u keeping in mind my needs.
> Thanks in advance.........
>
>


Just set a system restore point before you install SP3. Also do a clean
up and defrag before hand along with disabling your anti virus resident
scan and after SP3 is installed, reboot TWICE. If you have any real time
malware applications, disable them as well before doing the install.

--
Peter
 
H

HeyBub

Flightless Bird
Nicdig wrote:
> I want to back up my windows xp computer; but without using: external
> hard drives, cd's, flash drives, etc.
> I want to do the back up that will stay safe on my pc. I would also
> consider also to save the back up online.
>
> My problem is that I dont know how to do it so this is what I need...
> *A FREE program for the pc or FREE site online that will store this
> for me safely, securely, reliable, etc. Sorry but times are tough. *
>
> I am looking for ease in the program because I am not very
> knowledgable on doing this. I have used anti virus/spyware programs/
> registry cleaners/ etc that have an option to back up prior to using
> the program each time..I click and it does a back up..But I dont
> think that this is the same as doing a full back up..
> Main reason: I am going to install the sp3 soon and want to back up,
> in case there is chaos. So before I proceed, I want to do this before
> hand...
> Please let me know what works for u keeping in mind my needs.
> Thanks in advance.........


Inasmuch as you evidently have more time than money, here's a simple, but
time-consuming, solution:

ZIP all your personal data and everything you that cannot be re-installed
from the web or distribution disks.

Add this as an attachement to a Google-mail email to yourself.

Gmail allows a bunch, upwards of 8 gigabytes of storage, for each account.
Other free email services (Yahoo, Hotmail, etc.) also offer massive storage.
 
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Unknown

Flightless Bird
What you're asking for is impossible. A proper backup needs to be
'external'.
"Nicdig" <Nic@nic.com> wrote in message
news:%23KrNp$qHLHA.1972@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>I want to back up my windows xp computer; but without using: external hard
>drives, cd's, flash drives, etc.
> I want to do the back up that will stay safe on my pc. I would also
> consider also to save the back up online.
>
> My problem is that I dont know how to do it so this is what I need...
> *A FREE program for the pc or FREE site online that will store this for me
> safely, securely, reliable, etc. Sorry but times are tough. *
>
> I am looking for ease in the program because I am not very knowledgable on
> doing this. I have used anti virus/spyware programs/ registry cleaners/
> etc that have an option to back up prior to using the program each time..I
> click and it does a back up..But I dont think that this is the same as
> doing a full back up..
> Main reason: I am going to install the sp3 soon and want to back up, in
> case there is chaos. So before I proceed, I want to do this before hand...
>
> Please let me know what works for u keeping in mind my needs.
> Thanks in advance.........
>
 
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Bill in Co

Flightless Bird
Peter wrote:
> On 07/08/2010 05:11 PM, Nicdig wrote:
>> I want to back up my windows xp computer; but without using: external
>> hard drives, cd's, flash drives, etc.
>> I want to do the back up that will stay safe on my pc. I would also r
>> consider also to save the back up online.
>>
>> My problem is that I dont know how to do it so this is what I need...
>> *A FREE program for the pc or FREE site online that will store this for
>> me
>> safely, securely, reliable, etc. Sorry but times are tough. *
>>
>> I am looking for ease in the program because I am not very knowledgable
>> on
>> doing this. I have used anti virus/spyware programs/ registry cleaners/
>> etc
>> that have an option to back up prior to using the program each time..I
>> click
>> and it does a back up..But I dont think that this is the same as doing a
>> full back up..
>> Main reason: I am going to install the sp3 soon and want to back up, in
>> case there is chaos. So before I proceed, I want to do this before
>> hand...
>>
>> Please let me know what works for u keeping in mind my needs.
>> Thanks in advance.........
>>
>>

>
> Just set a system restore point before you install SP3. Also do a clean
> up and defrag before hand along with disabling your anti virus resident
> scan and after SP3 is installed, reboot TWICE. If you have any real time
> malware applications, disable them as well before doing the install.


Are you sure System Restore would be able to successfully restore back to
SP2 if that's what he wanted to do? (I just have some doubts, due to the
extent of changes made when SP3 is installed).

The real solution to his situation is to use disk imaging or disk cloning,
which requires another HD. That way if anything goes awry, he can be back
to his original SP2 installation without incident. If he doesn't want to
do that, then all bets are off. And $50 for such a program ... is *well
worth it*. :)
 
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Nick L. Odeon

Flightless Bird
Learn how to properly reply in a newsgroup.

"Randem" <newsgroups@randem.com> wrote in message
news:eMcTUetHLHA.5920@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
: If you are going to install SP3 and you are worried about other program
: affecting the installaion, boot into safe mode then install it. Of course
: you would need to download the SP3 installation first...
:
:
 
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Steve Cochran

Flightless Bird
What will you do if your hard drive fails? Your backup will be gone. Backup to another device. And what are you backing up? You need to find the files you wish to save and then copy them to the backup device. For instance, if you use OE, you need to backup you files and settings (see www.oehelp.com/backup.aspx and www.oehelp.com/OEBackup/).

steve

"Nicdig" <Nic@nic.com> wrote in message news:%23KrNp$qHLHA.1972@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>I want to back up my windows xp computer; but without using: external hard
> drives, cd's, flash drives, etc.
> I want to do the back up that will stay safe on my pc. I would also consider
> also to save the back up online.
>
> My problem is that I dont know how to do it so this is what I need...
> *A FREE program for the pc or FREE site online that will store this for me
> safely, securely, reliable, etc. Sorry but times are tough. *
>
> I am looking for ease in the program because I am not very knowledgable on
> doing this. I have used anti virus/spyware programs/ registry cleaners/ etc
> that have an option to back up prior to using the program each time..I click
> and it does a back up..But I dont think that this is the same as doing a
> full back up..
> Main reason: I am going to install the sp3 soon and want to back up, in case
> there is chaos. So before I proceed, I want to do this before hand...
>
> Please let me know what works for u keeping in mind my needs.
> Thanks in advance.........
>
>
 
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Paul

Flightless Bird
Nicdig wrote:
> I want to back up my windows xp computer; but without using: external hard
> drives, cd's, flash drives, etc.
> I want to do the back up that will stay safe on my pc. I would also consider
> also to save the back up online.
>
> My problem is that I dont know how to do it so this is what I need...
> *A FREE program for the pc or FREE site online that will store this for me
> safely, securely, reliable, etc. Sorry but times are tough. *
>
> I am looking for ease in the program because I am not very knowledgable on
> doing this. I have used anti virus/spyware programs/ registry cleaners/ etc
> that have an option to back up prior to using the program each time..I click
> and it does a back up..But I dont think that this is the same as doing a
> full back up..
> Main reason: I am going to install the sp3 soon and want to back up, in case
> there is chaos. So before I proceed, I want to do this before hand...
>
> Please let me know what works for u keeping in mind my needs.
> Thanks in advance.........
>
>


If you back up online, to some small startup company or the like,
even if the backup was encrypted, they'd have all the time in the
world to try to decrypt your storage. If you're at all paranoid,
online backup is not the answer. (I have the same concern about
some postings I've seen recently, offering a "free proxy server".
The opportunities to extract passwords, bank details, game account
info, and the like, is endless. That's why they don't charge for
their "free service".)

Start by having a look at the storage available on your computer.
How much "free space" do you have ? Perhaps you can save an image
of your working files on C:, and store them on C: as a backup file.
SP3 may have many potential failure modes, but erasing C: likely isn't
one of them. So if you don't have the resources for external hard
drives and the like, instead look at your free and used space.

Just double click "My Computer", and have a look at the statistics.
That'll give you some idea if there is room to do the job with
what you've already paid for.

Paul
 
J

John John - MVP

Flightless Bird
Why do you strip all your posts of any quoted text? When replying to
posts you should at least keep relevant parts of the post to which you
are replying!

Randem wrote:
> If you are going to install SP3 and you are worried about other program
> affecting the installaion, boot into safe mode then install it. Of course
> you would need to download the SP3 installation first...
>
> Backup info: http://www.randem.com/backingupyourcomputersdata.html
>
>
 
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Nick L. Odeon

Flightless Bird
Exactly, John!!!

"John John - MVP" <audetweld@nbnot.nb.ca> wrote in message
news:-OktHoKuHLHA.4596@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
: Why do you strip all your posts of any quoted text? When replying to
: posts you should at least keep relevant parts of the post to which you
: are replying!
:
: Randem wrote:
: > If you are going to install SP3 and you are worried about other program
: > affecting the installaion, boot into safe mode then install it. Of
course
: > you would need to download the SP3 installation first...
: >
: > Backup info: http://www.randem.com/backingupyourcomputersdata.html
: >
: >
 
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Daave

Flightless Bird
It appears that Randem makes a special effort to be both confusing and
annoying. Perhaps he doesn't understand how Usenet works. Or maybe he
just doesn't care.

John John - MVP wrote:
> Why do you strip all your posts of any quoted text? When replying to
> posts you should at least keep relevant parts of the post to which you
> are replying!
>
> Randem wrote:
>> If you are going to install SP3 and you are worried about other
>> program affecting the installaion, boot into safe mode then install
>> it. Of course you would need to download the SP3 installation
>> first... Backup info:
>> http://www.randem.com/backingupyourcomputersdata.html
 
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Paul

Flightless Bird
Daave wrote:
> It appears that Randem makes a special effort to be both confusing and
> annoying. Perhaps he doesn't understand how Usenet works. Or maybe he
> just doesn't care.
>
> John John - MVP wrote:
>> Why do you strip all your posts of any quoted text? When replying to
>> posts you should at least keep relevant parts of the post to which you
>> are replying!
>>
>> Randem wrote:
>>> If you are going to install SP3 and you are worried about other
>>> program affecting the installaion, boot into safe mode then install
>>> it. Of course you would need to download the SP3 installation
>>> first... Backup info:
>>> http://www.randem.com/backingupyourcomputersdata.html

>


Lately, a few of the threads on my server, haven't been
complete. In such a situation, it helps *a lot*, if the
original post or some context, is present in the answers.

In an ideal world, a server would never lose posts, but
I've noticed some problems recently on two of my USENET
servers. I think some Google Groups posters went missing,
while the regulars answering the posters, still showed up. To
hope to reconstruct the thread, does require some
context.

Paul
 
U

Unknown

Flightless Bird
I doubt he is configured to include the message in his response. He doesn't
know how.
"John John - MVP" <audetweld@nbnot.nb.ca> wrote in message
news:-OktHoKuHLHA.4596@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Why do you strip all your posts of any quoted text? When replying to
> posts you should at least keep relevant parts of the post to which you are
> replying!
>
> Randem wrote:
>> If you are going to install SP3 and you are worried about other program
>> affecting the installaion, boot into safe mode then install it. Of course
>> you would need to download the SP3 installation first...
>>
>> Backup info: http://www.randem.com/backingupyourcomputersdata.html
>>
 
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s-sandra@btconnect.com

Flightless Bird
On Thu, 8 Jul 2010 08:11:56 -0700, just as I was about to take a herb,
"Nicdig" <Nic@nic.com> disturbed my reverie and wrote:

>I want to do the back up that will stay safe on my pc


That's an oxymoron, you moron.
 
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