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auto-sleep don't work no more

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Aussie Camper

Flightless Bird
On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 11:12:58 -0700, "Gene E. Bloch"
<not-me@other.invalid> wrote:

>On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 16:58:21 +1000, Aussie Camper wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 22:20:35 +0100, "housetrained"
>> <housetrained@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>"Gene E. Bloch" <not-me@other.invalid> wrote in message
>>>news:mvksqoe51dm$.1w7kmacbbra1i$.dlg@40tude.net...
>>>> On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 21:05:35 +0100, housetrained wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "LouB" <Lou@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
>>>>> news:4C501424.6020708@invalid.invalid...
>>>>>> housetrained wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi, since installing squeezebox server the auto-sleep don't work no
>>>>>>> more.
>>>>>>> Uninstalled squeezetc. but still don't work. Ran CCleaner and Registry
>>>>>>> do-dah but still don't work. Any ideas apart from doin' a clean install
>>>>>>> of WIN7?
>>>>>>> TIA
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Search in Win 7 "power" See Power Options Go there and set to what you
>>>>>> want in case that program changed the setting.
>>>>>
>>>>> already done that and tried loads of settings including all the
>>>>> defaults -
>>>>> no joy. But thanks anyway
>>>>
>>>> Could it be that the squeezebox server keeps your computer awake for its
>>>> own nefarious (kidding) purposes?
>>>>
>>>> 1. The trouble started when you installed it
>>>>
>>>> 2. "Server" implies to me that it needs to be running 24/7
>>>>
>>>> Those are guesses, of course, but #1 is obvious and #2 is plausible.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)
>>>
>>>exactly - that's why I uninstalled it. Still no good. It sleeps when I do it
>>>manually but not auto. Grrrrrrrrrrrrrr.
>>>--
>>>John the West Ham fan
>>>
>>>housetrained@hotmail.com
>>><><

>>
>>
>> How about trying system restore to a point before you installed
>> squeezebox server?
>>
>> Aussie Camper

>
>You are embarrassing me for failing to think of that :)
>
>Good suggestion.


I have these moments about once a year or so <g>
Aussie Camper
 
S

Shoe

Flightless Bird
Re: auto-sleep don't work no more Say Ken Blake

On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 11:21:43 -0700, "Gene E. Bloch"
<not-me@other.invalid> wrote:

>On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 09:09:38 -0400, Shoe wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 04:41:57 -0400, LouB <Lou@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>>Ken Blake wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 20:31:52 -0400, LouB <Lou@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> housetrained wrote:
>>>>>> "LouB" <Lou@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:4C501424.6020708@invalid.invalid...
>>>>>>> housetrained wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hi, since installing squeezebox server the auto-sleep don't work no
>>>>>>>> more. Uninstalled squeezetc. but still don't work. Ran CCleaner and
>>>>>>>> Registry do-dah but still don't work. Any ideas apart from doin' a
>>>>>>>> clean install of WIN7?
>>>>>>>> TIA
>>>>>>> Search in Win 7 "power" See Power Options Go there and set to what
>>>>>>> you want in case that program changed the setting.
>>>>>> already done that and tried loads of settings including all the defaults
>>>>>> - no joy. But thanks anyway
>>>>> Oh crud:-((
>>>>>
>>>>> Where is Ken Blake when you need him?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sorry, I don't know anything about squeezebox server.
>>>
>>>Yabut OP says he uninstalled that thing. I was wondering if you could
>>>help OP get power settings to work since he says he tried.
>>>After a little thought I wonder if he has something that starts when he
>>>starts his system.
>>>
>>>Lou

>> I am also having some problems with sleep. Sometimes it works
>> automatically, sometimes it doesn't and I have not been able to find
>> anything running that correlates with that. Right now it's a mystery.

>
>For no particular reason, you just reminded me of a period when I couldn't
>get sleep to work automatically, and when sleep wasn't set, even the screen
>saver would fail to happen.
>
>I then noticed that if I set the timeout to less than 5 minutes, screen
>saver or sleep would work, and eventually I began to suspect my wireless
>mouse and keyboard. I plugged in my original wired items, and the problem
>went away. I had already turned off the Wake on LAN and similar settings to
>no avail.
>
>Other KB/M brands were OK.
>
>To summarize the above long story: some devices (in my case a wireless
>mouse/keyboard combo) call home periodically, which would wake Windows up
>or make it think the computer was in use.


Interesting. I use a Logitech wireless keyboard and mouse, but that
must not be the problem because sleep sometimes works automatically
and always works manually. This does bring to mind another issue
though. When the computer sleeps, USB shuts down, so I cannot wake it
with the mouse. I have to push the power button. Any thoughts about
how to get the mouse to wake it up?
 
C

Char Jackson

Flightless Bird
Re: auto-sleep don't work no more Say Ken Blake

On Fri, 30 Jul 2010 09:21:41 -0400, Shoe <j_shoe@yahoo.com> wrote:

>Interesting. I use a Logitech wireless keyboard and mouse, but that
>must not be the problem because sleep sometimes works automatically
>and always works manually. This does bring to mind another issue
>though. When the computer sleeps, USB shuts down, so I cannot wake it
>with the mouse. I have to push the power button. Any thoughts about
>how to get the mouse to wake it up?


Have you looked at the two options "Allow the computer to put this
device to sleep" and its companion "Allow this device to wake the
computer"?

http://forums.techarena.in/customize-desktop/1135024.htm
(Link is probably not Win7 specific, but the options likely still
exist.)
 
G

Gene E. Bloch

Flightless Bird
On Fri, 30 Jul 2010 19:36:15 +1000, Aussie Camper wrote:

> On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 11:12:58 -0700, "Gene E. Bloch"
> <not-me@other.invalid> wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 16:58:21 +1000, Aussie Camper wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 22:20:35 +0100, "housetrained"
>>> <housetrained@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>"Gene E. Bloch" <not-me@other.invalid> wrote in message
>>>>news:mvksqoe51dm$.1w7kmacbbra1i$.dlg@40tude.net...
>>>>> On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 21:05:35 +0100, housetrained wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> "LouB" <Lou@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:4C501424.6020708@invalid.invalid...
>>>>>>> housetrained wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hi, since installing squeezebox server the auto-sleep don't work no
>>>>>>>> more.
>>>>>>>> Uninstalled squeezetc. but still don't work. Ran CCleaner and Registry
>>>>>>>> do-dah but still don't work. Any ideas apart from doin' a clean install
>>>>>>>> of WIN7?
>>>>>>>> TIA
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Search in Win 7 "power" See Power Options Go there and set to what you
>>>>>>> want in case that program changed the setting.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> already done that and tried loads of settings including all the
>>>>>> defaults -
>>>>>> no joy. But thanks anyway
>>>>>
>>>>> Could it be that the squeezebox server keeps your computer awake for its
>>>>> own nefarious (kidding) purposes?
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. The trouble started when you installed it
>>>>>
>>>>> 2. "Server" implies to me that it needs to be running 24/7
>>>>>
>>>>> Those are guesses, of course, but #1 is obvious and #2 is plausible.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)
>>>>
>>>>exactly - that's why I uninstalled it. Still no good. It sleeps when I do it
>>>>manually but not auto. Grrrrrrrrrrrrrr.
>>>>--
>>>>John the West Ham fan
>>>>
>>>>housetrained@hotmail.com
>>>><><
>>>
>>>
>>> How about trying system restore to a point before you installed
>>> squeezebox server?
>>>
>>> Aussie Camper

>>
>>You are embarrassing me for failing to think of that :)
>>
>>Good suggestion.

>
> I have these moments about once a year or so <g>
> Aussie Camper


Oh, good. Then I'm OK until January 1st!

--
Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)
 
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Gene E. Bloch

Flightless Bird
Re: auto-sleep don't work no more Say Ken Blake

On Fri, 30 Jul 2010 08:31:53 -0500, Char Jackson wrote:

> On Fri, 30 Jul 2010 09:21:41 -0400, Shoe <j_shoe@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>Interesting. I use a Logitech wireless keyboard and mouse, but that
>>must not be the problem because sleep sometimes works automatically
>>and always works manually. This does bring to mind another issue
>>though. When the computer sleeps, USB shuts down, so I cannot wake it
>>with the mouse. I have to push the power button. Any thoughts about
>>how to get the mouse to wake it up?

>
> Have you looked at the two options "Allow the computer to put this
> device to sleep" and its companion "Allow this device to wake the
> computer"?
>
> http://forums.techarena.in/customize-desktop/1135024.htm
> (Link is probably not Win7 specific, but the options likely still
> exist.)


In Device Manager under Human Interface Devices, everything labeled
"HID-Compliant ..." has the Power tab with that option on this Win 7 Home
Premium.

I also have a heck of a lot of devices there, left over from plying with my
problem above, I guess. Wish I knew which ones to kill :)

--
Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)
 
J

johnbee

Flightless Bird
Re: auto-sleep don't work no more Say Ken Blake

For information purposes (I would be grateful if people who come here in
order to be sneery and rude would just ignore any message I write and
instead ponder awhile on why Usenet is dying) if one visits the command
prompt and type:

powercfg -energy

you will generate a Power Efficiency Diagnostics report. powercfg has
several other modes of operation as well as -energy.

Of particular interest might be powercfg -a

which will tell you what sleep states are possible. Not all PCs will allow
all and using the command that way will tell you what is available on your
machine. It is of course pointless setting any power options without first
doing that (unless of course there is another way which I don't know about).
You will probably have to be in admin mode or elevated or whatever the thing
is called in order to use some features of powercfg.
 
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