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AT&T SCREWS ITS CUSTOMERS!

Discussion in 'Windows 7' started by Whistleblower, Apr 3, 2010.

  1. Whistleblower

    Whistleblower Flightless Bird

    As they screw over their ISP customers, you can be sure sooner or later
    they'll screw their cellphone customers too!

    BEWARE OF and AVOID doing business with AT&T!

    AT&T exemplifies screw-the-consumer corporate arrogance at its worst.
    DO NOT PATRONIZE AT&T or YOU'LL REGRET IT!

    I had an ISP service package with AT&T Worldnet that included email, DSL, a
    personal website on their server, and Usenet access. Suddenly they dropped
    the Usenet service, with no compensation to customers that were forced to
    find another source. Another example of their screw-the-customer attitude is
    the fact that reaching a tech support person by phone typically requires at
    least a 20 minute wait on hold. AT&T once had a good tech support service on
    Usenet, but dropped that too and became very hard to reach. I should have
    seen the writing on the wall and dropped AT&T back then!

    This March 2nd I get an email that AT&T Worldnet service, DSL service, and
    website hosting will no longer be available effective March 31st - A KNIFE
    IN THE BACK to all their small business and individual customers!

    They arranged a deal with Covad to take over the DSL service, and a new
    email/web service that allows you to keep your existing email address and
    ID. You could elect to use AT&T for dialup only, or go to another ISP
    entirely. In effect, if you wanted to keep your present email address, IDs,
    settings, and DSL, you are FORCED to accept Covad and still be tied to AT&T
    as your ISP. Before, if your DSL service went down you had free dialup
    backup, but no longer. Dialup now costs extra. And since converting to Covad
    DSL about a week ago, I have already had a service failure!

    For a business, the website customer-screwing by AT&T is the worst of all. I
    had my site for years and it had a high ranking with the search engines -
    top10. Now I have been FORCED to move it to another host with a new URL
    unknown to the search engines. My initial outlay for 3 years of webhosting
    and a domain was over $150. Fortunately I was able to upload my site to the
    new host without the typical professional fee of $250 to do so, but it took
    alot of my time. In addition, I'll have to toss and replace about $50 worth
    of business cards with my old URL web address on them, replace other printed
    materials with the old URL, change many documents, and inform many contacts.
    I will inevitably lose business because the old URL, now in many website
    links and hard-copy publications, has become useless.

    The forced "migration" process from AT&T was complex and time-consuming, not
    helped by the unavailability for several days of the means to do so at their
    website where AT&T stated it would be. Instructions were vague and
    non-specific, and good luck reaching them by phone! As the service cutoff
    date approached, nothing could be done due to this and to AT&Ts
    inaccessibility. Then, one day after completing part of the migration
    process, CUTOFF! I had NO SERVICE - no web, no email, no DSL, no dialup,
    nothing! Finally after hours of effort,I was able to establish my DSL
    service. My Outlook Express was unable to download email until I corrected
    that too - with no help from these corporate cretins that couldn't care
    less!

    Now, for the same monthly price as before (under a 1 year contract with a
    BIG termination fee if you want out), I have DSL, web, and email. But no
    dialup backup, Usenet, or website as before. The website costs extra now.
    And will AT&T tech support improve? I wouldn't hold my breath!

    The substantial expenses and inconveniences inflicted by this AT&T
    customer-screwing is something for which a CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT would be
    appropriate, but no doubt the agreement you are forced into when buying
    their service protects them from responsibility. Clearly AT&T, with typical
    mega-corpseration greed and arrogance, cares little for their home and small
    business customers. This sort of thing will continue as long as they can
    perpetrate such actions without being held accountable, and consumers and
    businesses will remain at their mercy.

    When you vote, keep in mind it is the Republican-Conservatives that protect
    these mega-corpserate bullies and allow them to run amok, unregulated, and
    perpetrate such consumer-screwing actions as this.

    BOYCOTT AT&T!
     
  2. Trevor

    Trevor Flightless Bird

    YAWN

    "Whistleblower" <Justice@USA.con> wrote in message
    news:hp81ad$sek$1@news.eternal-september.org...
    > As they screw over their ISP customers, you can be sure sooner or later
    > they'll screw their cellphone customers too!
    >
    > BEWARE OF and AVOID doing business with AT&T!


    <crap cut>
     
  3. Whistleblower

    Whistleblower Flightless Bird

    "Trevor" <not_here@thanks.com> wrote in message
    news:81pi73Fq69U1@mid.individual.net...
    > YAWN
    >
    > "Whistleblower" <Justice@USA.con> wrote in message
    > news:hp81ad$sek$1@news.eternal-september.org...
    >> As they screw over their ISP customers, you can be sure sooner or later
    >> they'll screw their cellphone customers too!
    >>
    >> BEWARE OF and AVOID doing business with AT&T!

    >


    HO HUM!
    Another troll with nothing intelligent to say.
    One more for the killfile!
     
  4. Elmo P. Shagnasty

    Elmo P. Shagnasty Flightless Bird

    In article <hp81ad$sek$1@news.eternal-september.org>,
    "Whistleblower" <Justice@USA.con> wrote:

    > BEWARE OF and AVOID doing business with AT&T!


    I am AT&T-free in my life for over two years now, and have no desire (or
    need!) to go back.
     
  5. Seth

    Seth Flightless Bird

    "Whistleblower" <Justice@USA.con> wrote in message
    news:hp85ev$nmm$1@news.eternal-september.org...
    > "Trevor" <not_here@thanks.com> wrote in message
    > news:81pi73Fq69U1@mid.individual.net...
    >> YAWN
    >>
    >> "Whistleblower" <Justice@USA.con> wrote in message
    >> news:hp81ad$sek$1@news.eternal-september.org...
    >>> As they screw over their ISP customers, you can be sure sooner or later
    >>> they'll screw their cellphone customers too!
    >>>
    >>> BEWARE OF and AVOID doing business with AT&T!

    >>

    >
    > HO HUM!
    > Another troll with nothing intelligent to say.
    > One more for the killfile!



    So says the whiner cross-posting his woes to non-AT&T related newsgroups.
     
  6. Mr doe

    Mr doe Flightless Bird

    Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
    > In article<hp81ad$sek$1@news.eternal-september.org>,
    > "Whistleblower"<Justice@USA.con> wrote:
    >
    >> BEWARE OF and AVOID doing business with AT&T!

    >
    > I am AT&T-free in my life for over two years now, and have no desire (or
    > need!) to go back.

    I have the Same opinion of Comshaft.
     
  7. Agent_C

    Agent_C Flightless Bird

    On Sat, 3 Apr 2010 14:26:58 -0400, "Whistleblower" <Justice@USA.con>
    wrote:

    >BEWARE OF and AVOID doing business with AT&T!


    Will you shut the fuck up already? We know; you hate AT&T.

    Nobody really cares...

    A_C
     
  8. Don Klipstein

    Don Klipstein Flightless Bird

    In article <hp81ad$sek$1@news.eternal-september.org>, Whistleblower wrote:
    >As they screw over their ISP customers, you can be sure sooner or later
    >they'll screw their cellphone customers too!
    >
    >BEWARE OF and AVOID doing business with AT&T!
    >
    >AT&T exemplifies screw-the-consumer corporate arrogance at its worst.
    >DO NOT PATRONIZE AT&T or YOU'LL REGRET IT!
    >
    >I had an ISP service package with AT&T Worldnet that included email, DSL, a
    >personal website on their server, and Usenet access. Suddenly they dropped
    >the Usenet service, with no compensation to customers that were forced to
    >find another source. Another example of their screw-the-customer attitude is
    >the fact that reaching a tech support person by phone typically requires at
    >least a 20 minute wait on hold. AT&T once had a good tech support service on
    >Usenet, but dropped that too and became very hard to reach. I should have
    >seen the writing on the wall and dropped AT&T back then!
    >
    >This March 2nd I get an email that AT&T Worldnet service, DSL service, and
    >website hosting will no longer be available effective March 31st - A KNIFE
    >IN THE BACK to all their small business and individual customers!


    I sympathize with such bad news, and I deal with AT&T only for a
    cellphone service that they bought from Cingular, and AT&T so far is
    appearing to me to largely continue Cingular's practices in a way that
    I am finding at least mostly reasonable.

    >They arranged a deal with Covad to take over the DSL service, and a new
    >email/web service that allows you to keep your existing email address and
    >ID. You could elect to use AT&T for dialup only, or go to another ISP
    >entirely. In effect, if you wanted to keep your present email address, IDs,
    >settings, and DSL, you are FORCED to accept Covad and still be tied to AT&T
    >as your ISP. Before, if your DSL service went down you had free dialup
    >backup, but no longer. Dialup now costs extra. And since converting to Covad
    >DSL about a week ago, I have already had a service failure!
    >
    >For a business, the website customer-screwing by AT&T is the worst of all. I
    >had my site for years and it had a high ranking with the search engines -
    >top10. Now I have been FORCED to move it to another host with a new URL
    >unknown to the search engines. My initial outlay for 3 years of webhosting
    >and a domain was over $150. Fortunately I was able to upload my site to the
    >new host without the typical professional fee of $250 to do so, but it took
    >alot of my time. In addition, I'll have to toss and replace about $50 worth
    >of business cards with my old URL web address on them, replace other printed
    >materials with the old URL, change many documents, and inform many contacts.
    >I will inevitably lose business because the old URL, now in many website
    >links and hard-copy publications, has become useless.


    It strongly appears to me that those with businesses whose business
    models depend on a domain or e-mail address advertized so much as even
    in business cards, need to have domain names that they paid for good
    enough for e-mail addresses @own-domain. (Even though it appears to
    me that one rents rather than owns a domain, but usually with easy terms
    of rental renewal.)

    (At this point, I think enough said, in part from following material
    that I snipped out including stuff on DSL service, which appears to me
    to be a mere full step above "dialup", as in appearing to me to be
    usually cheaper/lesser service than even mere 5-6 mbit/sec cable-modem
    service or the like.)

    - Don Klipstein (don@misty.com)
     
  9. cj@heaven.org

    cj@heaven.org Flightless Bird

    >> Is eSATA Hot Swapable Plug-n-Play like USB?
    >>
    >> ~alan


    >Yes.


    Thats' not entirely true

    From what I have read, both the the SATA controller and the drivers must support it.

    http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/206783-32-sata-swap

    In case one or both don't a utility call HOTSWAP is mentioned. I use DEVCON myself.

    I have a ESATA drive that does not hot swap on my pc's with ASUS MB's using XP or WIN7, but does on other PC's. That seems
    to support the info found at the above link.

    hth.

    cj
     
  10. Whistleblower

    Whistleblower Flightless Bird

    "Agent_C" <agent-c-hates-spam@nyc.rr.com> wrote in message
    news:snkfr55po5r2ffnibsf5i9ql64g5pe3873@4ax.com...
    > On Sat, 3 Apr 2010 14:26:58 -0400, "Whistleblower" <Justice@USA.con>
    > wrote:
    >
    >>BEWARE OF and AVOID doing business with AT&T!

    >
    > Will you shut the fuck up already? We know; you hate AT&T.
    >
    > Nobody really cares...
    >
    > A_C


    YOU may not care, intolerant jerk, but I don't give a damn. I have a right
    to speak my mind on a public forum, and that's exactly what I'll do.
    No one forces you to read what I say - so DON'T.
     
  11. Whistleblower

    Whistleblower Flightless Bird

    "Don Klipstein" <don@manx.misty.com> wrote in message
    news:slrnhrgaar.qeo.don@manx.misty.com...
    > In article <hp81ad$sek$1@news.eternal-september.org>, Whistleblower wrote:
    >>As they screw over their ISP customers, you can be sure sooner or later
    >>they'll screw their cellphone customers too!
    >>
    >>BEWARE OF and AVOID doing business with AT&T!
    >>
    >>AT&T exemplifies screw-the-consumer corporate arrogance at its worst.
    >>DO NOT PATRONIZE AT&T or YOU'LL REGRET IT!
    >>
    >>I had an ISP service package with AT&T Worldnet that included email, DSL,
    >>a
    >>personal website on their server, and Usenet access. Suddenly they dropped
    >>the Usenet service, with no compensation to customers that were forced to
    >>find another source. Another example of their screw-the-customer attitude
    >>is
    >>the fact that reaching a tech support person by phone typically requires
    >>at
    >>least a 20 minute wait on hold. AT&T once had a good tech support service
    >>on
    >>Usenet, but dropped that too and became very hard to reach. I should have
    >>seen the writing on the wall and dropped AT&T back then!
    >>
    >>This March 2nd I get an email that AT&T Worldnet service, DSL service, and
    >>website hosting will no longer be available effective March 31st - A KNIFE
    >>IN THE BACK to all their small business and individual customers!


    > I sympathize with such bad news, and I deal with AT&T only for a
    > cellphone service that they bought from Cingular, and AT&T so far is
    > appearing to me to largely continue Cingular's practices in a way that
    > I am finding at least mostly reasonable.


    Of course they are being reasonable - for now. AT&T is heavily advertising
    their profitable cellphone service, and doesn't want to alienate people -
    yet. But if they will screw their ISP customers, as they have, in time they
    will do the same to cellphone customers when it serves their greedy purposes
    to do so.

    >>They arranged a deal with Covad to take over the DSL service, and a new
    >>email/web service that allows you to keep your existing email address and
    >>ID. You could elect to use AT&T for dialup only, or go to another ISP
    >>entirely. In effect, if you wanted to keep your present email address,
    >>IDs,
    >>settings, and DSL, you are FORCED to accept Covad and still be tied to
    >>AT&T
    >>as your ISP. Before, if your DSL service went down you had free dialup
    >>backup, but no longer. Dialup now costs extra. And since converting to
    >>Covad
    >>DSL about a week ago, I have already had a service failure!
    >>
    >>For a business, the website customer-screwing by AT&T is the worst of all.
    >>I
    >>had my site for years and it had a high ranking with the search engines -
    >>top10. Now I have been FORCED to move it to another host with a new URL
    >>unknown to the search engines. My initial outlay for 3 years of webhosting
    >>and a domain was over $150. Fortunately I was able to upload my site to
    >>the
    >>new host without the typical professional fee of $250 to do so, but it
    >>took
    >>alot of my time. In addition, I'll have to toss and replace about $50
    >>worth
    >>of business cards with my old URL web address on them, replace other
    >>printed
    >>materials with the old URL, change many documents, and inform many
    >>contacts.
    >>I will inevitably lose business because the old URL, now in many website
    >>links and hard-copy publications, has become useless.


    > It strongly appears to me that those with businesses whose business
    > models depend on a domain or e-mail address advertized so much as even
    > in business cards, need to have domain names that they paid for good
    > enough for e-mail addresses @own-domain. (Even though it appears to
    > me that one rents rather than owns a domain, but usually with easy terms
    > of rental renewal.)


    Good point - one that I am taking and now acting on.

    > (At this point, I think enough said, in part from following material
    > that I snipped out including stuff on DSL service, which appears to me
    > to be a mere full step above "dialup", as in appearing to me to be
    > usually cheaper/lesser service than even mere 5-6 mbit/sec cable-modem
    > service or the like.)
    >
    > - Don Klipstein (don@misty.com)
     
  12. Elmo P. Shagnasty

    Elmo P. Shagnasty Flightless Bird

    In article <hpabhs$ugt$1@news.eternal-september.org>,
    "Whistleblower" <Justice@USA.con> wrote:

    > > Will you shut the fuck up already? We know; you hate AT&T.
    > >
    > > Nobody really cares...
    > >
    > > A_C

    >
    > YOU may not care, intolerant jerk, but I don't give a damn. I have a right
    > to speak my mind on a public forum, and that's exactly what I'll do.
    > No one forces you to read what I say - so DON'T.


    And I have a right to call you a fuckwad in a public forum, and that's
    exactly what I'll do.

    And I'll also ask when you stopped beating your wife.

    No one forces you to read it--so DON'T.
     
  13. Drew

    Drew Flightless Bird

    So I really have to ask. What the fuck is the point of posting this here?
    Does anyone here really care about some isp problems that YOU may be having
    when others are clearly not! This is after all a windows newsgroup not a
    AT&T or a ISP newsgroup is it not? I personally have had AT&T for my home
    phone ,DSL and cell service for over 10 years even though it used to be SBC
    (home) SBC Global for DSL and Cingular for cell. Still I have never
    experienced the slightest problem with any of them and if I do I make a
    phone call to them and it is taken care of with either a price reduction a
    increase in service or a benefit of some kind to me. no complaints at all.

    "Whistleblower" <Justice@USA.con> wrote in message
    news:hpabr9$oj$1@news.eternal-september.org...
    > "Don Klipstein" <don@manx.misty.com> wrote in message
    > news:slrnhrgaar.qeo.don@manx.misty.com...
    >> In article <hp81ad$sek$1@news.eternal-september.org>, Whistleblower
    >> wrote:
    >>>As they screw over their ISP customers, you can be sure sooner or later
    >>>they'll screw their cellphone customers too!
    >>>
    >>>BEWARE OF and AVOID doing business with AT&T!
    >>>
    >>>AT&T exemplifies screw-the-consumer corporate arrogance at its worst.
    >>>DO NOT PATRONIZE AT&T or YOU'LL REGRET IT!
    >>>
    >>>I had an ISP service package with AT&T Worldnet that included email, DSL,
    >>>a
    >>>personal website on their server, and Usenet access. Suddenly they
    >>>dropped
    >>>the Usenet service, with no compensation to customers that were forced to
    >>>find another source. Another example of their screw-the-customer attitude
    >>>is
    >>>the fact that reaching a tech support person by phone typically requires
    >>>at
    >>>least a 20 minute wait on hold. AT&T once had a good tech support service
    >>>on
    >>>Usenet, but dropped that too and became very hard to reach. I should have
    >>>seen the writing on the wall and dropped AT&T back then!
    >>>
    >>>This March 2nd I get an email that AT&T Worldnet service, DSL service,
    >>>and
    >>>website hosting will no longer be available effective March 31st - A
    >>>KNIFE
    >>>IN THE BACK to all their small business and individual customers!

    >
    >> I sympathize with such bad news, and I deal with AT&T only for a
    >> cellphone service that they bought from Cingular, and AT&T so far is
    >> appearing to me to largely continue Cingular's practices in a way that
    >> I am finding at least mostly reasonable.

    >
    > Of course they are being reasonable - for now. AT&T is heavily advertising
    > their profitable cellphone service, and doesn't want to alienate people -
    > yet. But if they will screw their ISP customers, as they have, in time
    > they will do the same to cellphone customers when it serves their greedy
    > purposes to do so.
    >
    >>>They arranged a deal with Covad to take over the DSL service, and a new
    >>>email/web service that allows you to keep your existing email address and
    >>>ID. You could elect to use AT&T for dialup only, or go to another ISP
    >>>entirely. In effect, if you wanted to keep your present email address,
    >>>IDs,
    >>>settings, and DSL, you are FORCED to accept Covad and still be tied to
    >>>AT&T
    >>>as your ISP. Before, if your DSL service went down you had free dialup
    >>>backup, but no longer. Dialup now costs extra. And since converting to
    >>>Covad
    >>>DSL about a week ago, I have already had a service failure!
    >>>
    >>>For a business, the website customer-screwing by AT&T is the worst of
    >>>all. I
    >>>had my site for years and it had a high ranking with the search engines -
    >>>top10. Now I have been FORCED to move it to another host with a new URL
    >>>unknown to the search engines. My initial outlay for 3 years of
    >>>webhosting
    >>>and a domain was over $150. Fortunately I was able to upload my site to
    >>>the
    >>>new host without the typical professional fee of $250 to do so, but it
    >>>took
    >>>alot of my time. In addition, I'll have to toss and replace about $50
    >>>worth
    >>>of business cards with my old URL web address on them, replace other
    >>>printed
    >>>materials with the old URL, change many documents, and inform many
    >>>contacts.
    >>>I will inevitably lose business because the old URL, now in many website
    >>>links and hard-copy publications, has become useless.

    >
    >> It strongly appears to me that those with businesses whose business
    >> models depend on a domain or e-mail address advertized so much as even
    >> in business cards, need to have domain names that they paid for good
    >> enough for e-mail addresses @own-domain. (Even though it appears to
    >> me that one rents rather than owns a domain, but usually with easy terms
    >> of rental renewal.)

    >
    > Good point - one that I am taking and now acting on.
    >
    >> (At this point, I think enough said, in part from following material
    >> that I snipped out including stuff on DSL service, which appears to me
    >> to be a mere full step above "dialup", as in appearing to me to be
    >> usually cheaper/lesser service than even mere 5-6 mbit/sec cable-modem
    >> service or the like.)
    >>
    >> - Don Klipstein (don@misty.com)

    >
    >
     
  14. Mr doe

    Mr doe Flightless Bird

    Drew wrote:
    > So I really have to ask. What the fuck is the point of posting this here?
    > Does anyone here really care about some isp problems that YOU may be having
    > when others are clearly not! This is after all a windows newsgroup not a
    > AT&T or a ISP newsgroup is it not? I personally have had AT&T for my home
    > phone ,DSL and cell service for over 10 years even though it used to be SBC
    > (home) SBC Global for DSL and Cingular for cell. Still I have never
    > experienced the slightest problem with any of them and if I do I make a
    > phone call to them and it is taken care of with either a price reduction a
    > increase in service or a benefit of some kind to me. no complaints at all.



    I will 2nd the motion




    >
    > "Whistleblower" <Justice@USA.con> wrote in message
    > news:hpabr9$oj$1@news.eternal-september.org...
    >> "Don Klipstein" <don@manx.misty.com> wrote in message
    >> news:slrnhrgaar.qeo.don@manx.misty.com...
    >>> In article <hp81ad$sek$1@news.eternal-september.org>, Whistleblower
    >>> wrote:
    >>>> As they screw over their ISP customers, you can be sure sooner or later
    >>>> they'll screw their cellphone customers too!
    >>>>
    >>>> BEWARE OF and AVOID doing business with AT&T!
    >>>>
    >>>> AT&T exemplifies screw-the-consumer corporate arrogance at its worst.
    >>>> DO NOT PATRONIZE AT&T or YOU'LL REGRET IT!
    >>>>
    >>>> I had an ISP service package with AT&T Worldnet that included email,
    >>>> DSL,
    >>>> a
    >>>> personal website on their server, and Usenet access. Suddenly they
    >>>> dropped
    >>>> the Usenet service, with no compensation to customers that were
    >>>> forced to
    >>>> find another source. Another example of their screw-the-customer
    >>>> attitude
    >>>> is
    >>>> the fact that reaching a tech support person by phone typically
    >>>> requires
    >>>> at
    >>>> least a 20 minute wait on hold. AT&T once had a good tech support
    >>>> service
    >>>> on
    >>>> Usenet, but dropped that too and became very hard to reach. I should
    >>>> have
    >>>> seen the writing on the wall and dropped AT&T back then!
    >>>>
    >>>> This March 2nd I get an email that AT&T Worldnet service, DSL service,
    >>>> and
    >>>> website hosting will no longer be available effective March 31st - A
    >>>> KNIFE
    >>>> IN THE BACK to all their small business and individual customers!

    >>
    >>> I sympathize with such bad news, and I deal with AT&T only for a
    >>> cellphone service that they bought from Cingular, and AT&T so far is
    >>> appearing to me to largely continue Cingular's practices in a way that
    >>> I am finding at least mostly reasonable.

    >>
    >> Of course they are being reasonable - for now. AT&T is heavily
    >> advertising
    >> their profitable cellphone service, and doesn't want to alienate people -
    >> yet. But if they will screw their ISP customers, as they have, in time
    >> they will do the same to cellphone customers when it serves their greedy
    >> purposes to do so.
    >>
    >>>> They arranged a deal with Covad to take over the DSL service, and a new
    >>>> email/web service that allows you to keep your existing email
    >>>> address and
    >>>> ID. You could elect to use AT&T for dialup only, or go to another ISP
    >>>> entirely. In effect, if you wanted to keep your present email address,
    >>>> IDs,
    >>>> settings, and DSL, you are FORCED to accept Covad and still be tied to
    >>>> AT&T
    >>>> as your ISP. Before, if your DSL service went down you had free dialup
    >>>> backup, but no longer. Dialup now costs extra. And since converting to
    >>>> Covad
    >>>> DSL about a week ago, I have already had a service failure!
    >>>>
    >>>> For a business, the website customer-screwing by AT&T is the worst of
    >>>> all. I
    >>>> had my site for years and it had a high ranking with the search
    >>>> engines -
    >>>> top10. Now I have been FORCED to move it to another host with a new URL
    >>>> unknown to the search engines. My initial outlay for 3 years of
    >>>> webhosting
    >>>> and a domain was over $150. Fortunately I was able to upload my site to
    >>>> the
    >>>> new host without the typical professional fee of $250 to do so, but it
    >>>> took
    >>>> alot of my time. In addition, I'll have to toss and replace about $50
    >>>> worth
    >>>> of business cards with my old URL web address on them, replace other
    >>>> printed
    >>>> materials with the old URL, change many documents, and inform many
    >>>> contacts.
    >>>> I will inevitably lose business because the old URL, now in many
    >>>> website
    >>>> links and hard-copy publications, has become useless.

    >>
    >>> It strongly appears to me that those with businesses whose business
    >>> models depend on a domain or e-mail address advertized so much as even
    >>> in business cards, need to have domain names that they paid for good
    >>> enough for e-mail addresses @own-domain. (Even though it appears to
    >>> me that one rents rather than owns a domain, but usually with easy terms
    >>> of rental renewal.)

    >>
    >> Good point - one that I am taking and now acting on.
    >>
    >>> (At this point, I think enough said, in part from following material
    >>> that I snipped out including stuff on DSL service, which appears to me
    >>> to be a mere full step above "dialup", as in appearing to me to be
    >>> usually cheaper/lesser service than even mere 5-6 mbit/sec cable-modem
    >>> service or the like.)
    >>>
    >>> - Don Klipstein (don@misty.com)

    >>
    >>
     
  15. Sanity

    Sanity Flightless Bird

    "Whistleblower" <Justice@USA.con> wrote in message
    news:hpabhs$ugt$1@news.eternal-september.org...
    > "Agent_C" <agent-c-hates-spam@nyc.rr.com> wrote in message
    > news:snkfr55po5r2ffnibsf5i9ql64g5pe3873@4ax.com...
    >> On Sat, 3 Apr 2010 14:26:58 -0400, "Whistleblower" <Justice@USA.con>
    >> wrote:
    >>
    >>>BEWARE OF and AVOID doing business with AT&T!

    >>
    >> Will you shut the fuck up already? We know; you hate AT&T.
    >>
    >> Nobody really cares...
    >>
    >> A_C

    >
    > YOU may not care, intolerant jerk, but I don't give a damn. I have a right
    > to speak my mind on a public forum, and that's exactly what I'll do.
    > No one forces you to read what I say - so DON'T.
    >


    You know, I've seen you call others Troll on this forum. They are no worse
    than you are.
     
  16. Bill Yanaire

    Bill Yanaire Flightless Bird

    Maybe you should concentrate on getting employment.
     
  17. Bill

    Bill Flightless Bird

    On 4/4/2010 11:39 AM, Whistleblower wrote:
    > Of course they are being reasonable - for now. AT&T is heavily advertising
    > their profitable cellphone service, and doesn't want to alienate people -
    > yet. But if they will screw their ISP customers, as they have, in time they
    > will do the same to cellphone customers when it serves their greedy purposes
    > to do so.


    And if they do, people will just move to another provider and takwe
    their phone numbers with them. Something similar to what you could have
    done had you not been dependent on their ISP address, which others have
    already told you was a bad idea.

    DSL is old technology anyway. You should move to fiber or cable.

    BTW, did their terms and conditions say that they had to continue
    offering the service? Did they do anything in violation of it? If not,
    what is your complaint?

    Bill
     
  18. Death

    Death Flightless Bird

    Bill wrote:

    > On 4/4/2010 11:39 AM, Whistleblower wrote:
    >> Of course they are being reasonable - for now. AT&T is heavily advertising
    >> their profitable cellphone service, and doesn't want to alienate people -
    >> yet. But if they will screw their ISP customers, as they have, in time they
    >> will do the same to cellphone customers when it serves their greedy purposes
    >> to do so.

    >
    > And if they do, people will just move to another provider and takwe
    > their phone numbers with them. Something similar to what you could have
    > done had you not been dependent on their ISP address, which others have
    > already told you was a bad idea.
    >
    > DSL is old technology anyway. You should move to fiber or cable.
    >
    > BTW, did their terms and conditions say that they had to continue
    > offering the service? Did they do anything in violation of it? If not,
    > what is your complaint?
    >


    Terms and conditions?
    LMAO.
    You are assuming that people read that.
    Marketing a product depends on that not happening.

    I myself like AT&T ... they perform the services I require within the
    skills possessed by humans.

    The services provided by monkies would be slightly worse.

    --
    Vita brevis breviter in brevi finietur,
    Mors venit velociter quae neminem veretur.
     
  19. krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz

    krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz Flightless Bird

    On Mon, 05 Apr 2010 20:28:53 -0400, Bill <billrubin@prodigy.net> wrote:

    >On 4/4/2010 11:39 AM, Whistleblower wrote:
    >> Of course they are being reasonable - for now. AT&T is heavily advertising
    >> their profitable cellphone service, and doesn't want to alienate people -
    >> yet. But if they will screw their ISP customers, as they have, in time they
    >> will do the same to cellphone customers when it serves their greedy purposes
    >> to do so.

    >
    >And if they do, people will just move to another provider and takwe
    >their phone numbers with them. Something similar to what you could have
    >done had you not been dependent on their ISP address, which others have
    >already told you was a bad idea.
    >
    >DSL is old technology anyway. You should move to fiber or cable.


    Nice plan if you can get it. I'm lucky I can get the slowest grade of DSL,
    and it is *slow*.

    >BTW, did their terms and conditions say that they had to continue
    >offering the service? Did they do anything in violation of it? If not,
    >what is your complaint?
    >
    >Bill
     
  20. Mr doe

    Mr doe Flightless Bird

    krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz wrote:
    > On Mon, 05 Apr 2010 20:28:53 -0400, Bill<billrubin@prodigy.net> wrote:
    >
    >> On 4/4/2010 11:39 AM, Whistleblower wrote:
    >>> Of course they are being reasonable - for now. AT&T is heavily advertising
    >>> their profitable cellphone service, and doesn't want to alienate people -
    >>> yet. But if they will screw their ISP customers, as they have, in time they
    >>> will do the same to cellphone customers when it serves their greedy purposes
    >>> to do so.

    >>
    >> And if they do, people will just move to another provider and takwe
    >> their phone numbers with them. Something similar to what you could have
    >> done had you not been dependent on their ISP address, which others have
    >> already told you was a bad idea.
    >>
    >> DSL is old technology anyway. You should move to fiber or cable.

    >
    > Nice plan if you can get it. I'm lucky I can get the slowest grade of DSL,
    > and it is *slow*.



    Hang in there,, Obama will Save you
    >
    >> BTW, did their terms and conditions say that they had to continue
    >> offering the service? Did they do anything in violation of it? If not,
    >> what is your complaint?
    >>
    >> Bill
     

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