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Are Updates dangerous!

P

PA Bear [MS MVP]

Flightless Bird
Ooo, kinky!

joe wrote:
> Up your arse.
> "Unknown" <unknown@unknown.kom> wrote in message
> news:-Od$p4fMrKHA.6064@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> Logical!
>> "joe" <joe@ebox.com> wrote in message
>> news:etMCa$GrKHA.3536@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>> What kind of response is that?
>>>
>>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:-OLyRxLFrKHA.3908@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>> How long have you been so paranoid?
>>>>
>>>> joe wrote:
>>>>> I have win xp pro sp3
>>>>>
>>>>> I lived in a remote area without internet access so never did any
>>>>> updates
>>>>> other than the service packs, no internet no threats :)
>>>>> I now have broadband and am fully up to date with all Microsoft
>>>>> updates.
>>>>>
>>>>> However this latest problem with KB977165 has really scared me. I am
>>>>> not too
>>>>> happy about using the recovery tool and how would I have found out the
>>>>> solution anyway without a pc to access the Internet? ( I am still in a
>>>>> remote area with no other pc's around )
>>>>>
>>>>> So I have a couple of questions for the experts here.
>>>>>
>>>>> Firstly, why did my update install perfectly when so many others had
>>>>> this
>>>>> huge problem? Was I just lucky?
>>>>>
>>>>> Has this kind of thing happened before with bad updates?
>>>>>
>>>>> Can I feel safe in downloading these updates automatically.
>>>>>
>>>>> I would feel much better if you guys could give me the benefit of your
>>>>> experience.
>>>>>
>>>>> TIA
 
J

joe

Flightless Bird
This is more of what I would have expected from you PA. I kmow you are
heavily involved with update queries and apreciate you taking the time to
respond. I still feel nervous about the whole update issue after this little
hicup.


"PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:%23$%230XoMrKHA.4752@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Sorry, it's been a long week in the trenches dealing with those
> BSOD/KB977165 issues here.
>
>>>> Firstly, why did my update install perfectly when so many others had
>>>> this
>>>> huge problem? Was I just lucky?
>
> Luck had nothing to do with it. Practicing 'Safe Hex' did: It's beginning
> to look like the vast majority of these BSODs were caused by hijackware
> infections, primarily W32/Alureon-variants.
>
>>>> Has this kind of thing happened before with bad updates?
>
> If your computer's security was compromised, yes.
>
>>>> Can I feel safe in downloading these updates automatically.
>
> Very generally speaking, yes. Should you ever need assistance...
>
> For home users, no-charge support is available by calling 1-866-PCSAFETY
> (and/or 1-866-234-6020 and/or 1-800-936-5700) in the United States and in
> Canada or by contacting your local Microsoft subsidiary. There is
> no-charge for support calls that are associated with security updates.
> When you call, clearly state that your problem is related to a Security
> Update and cite the update's KB number (e.g., KB999999).
>
> Or you can...
>
> Start a free Windows Update support incident request:
> https://support.microsoft.com/oas/default.aspx?gprid=6527
>
> Consumer Security Support home page & Microsoft Update Solution Center
> also offer support options
> https://consumersecuritysupport.microsoft.com/
> http://support.microsoft.com/ph/6527#tab3
>
> For more information about how to contact your local Microsoft subsidiary
> for security update support issues, visit the International Support Web
> site: http://support.microsoft.com/common/international.aspx
> --
> ~PA Bear
>
> joe wrote:
>> What kind of response is that?
>>
>>> How long have you been so paranoid?
>>>
>>> joe wrote:
>>>> I have win xp pro sp3
>>>>
>>>> I lived in a remote area without internet access so never did any
>>>> updates
>>>> other than the service packs, no internet no threats :)
>>>> I now have broadband and am fully up to date with all Microsoft
>>>> updates.
>>>>
>>>> However this latest problem with KB977165 has really scared me. I am
>>>> not
>>>> too
>>>> happy about using the recovery tool and how would I have found out the
>>>> solution anyway without a pc to access the Internet? ( I am still in a
>>>> remote area with no other pc's around )
>>>>
>>>> So I have a couple of questions for the experts here.
>>>>
>>>> Firstly, why did my update install perfectly when so many others had
>>>> this
>>>> huge problem? Was I just lucky?
>>>>
>>>> Has this kind of thing happened before with bad updates?
>>>>
>>>> Can I feel safe in downloading these updates automatically.
>>>>
>>>> I would feel much better if you guys could give me the benefit of your
>>>> experience.
>>>>
>>>> TIA
>
 
J

joe

Flightless Bird
Just to say this was meant as a knee jerk response to Unknown. I fully
respect your input PA bear and have done so for several years. Thank you.

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:uz7d2$NrKHA.5940@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Ooo, kinky!
>
> joe wrote:
>> Up your arse.
>> "Unknown" <unknown@unknown.kom> wrote in message
>> news:-Od$p4fMrKHA.6064@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>> Logical!
>>> "joe" <joe@ebox.com> wrote in message
>>> news:etMCa$GrKHA.3536@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>> What kind of response is that?
>>>>
>>>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:-OLyRxLFrKHA.3908@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>> How long have you been so paranoid?
>>>>>
>>>>> joe wrote:
>>>>>> I have win xp pro sp3
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I lived in a remote area without internet access so never did any
>>>>>> updates
>>>>>> other than the service packs, no internet no threats :)
>>>>>> I now have broadband and am fully up to date with all Microsoft
>>>>>> updates.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> However this latest problem with KB977165 has really scared me. I am
>>>>>> not too
>>>>>> happy about using the recovery tool and how would I have found out
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> solution anyway without a pc to access the Internet? ( I am still in
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> remote area with no other pc's around )
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So I have a couple of questions for the experts here.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Firstly, why did my update install perfectly when so many others had
>>>>>> this
>>>>>> huge problem? Was I just lucky?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Has this kind of thing happened before with bad updates?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Can I feel safe in downloading these updates automatically.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would feel much better if you guys could give me the benefit of
>>>>>> your
>>>>>> experience.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> TIA
>
 
P

(PeteCresswell)

Flightless Bird
Per Saucy:
>An unpatched rtm Windows XP will be infected within minutes if connected
>directly to the Internet:
>
>http://www.securityfocus.com/columnists/262

But that's an "unprotected PC" - which I take to mean one with no
anti-virus software installed and not running behind whatever
kind of router offers some protection.... or did I read it wrong?
--
PeteCresswell
 
P

(PeteCresswell)

Flightless Bird
Per Shenan Stanley:
>What's the situation? Where is this computer, what is it used for?

Mostly home use: email, word processing. Some VBA development,
but most of the time I Remote into a box at the client's site to
do development.

I posed the question because after applying SP3, I had problems
Remote Desktopping over a VPN to a client site. Called their
support desk and they said they found SP3 tb problematic in that
area. Didn't turn out tb the cause (I was using the wrong
router and that was the cause)... but their comment got me
thinking that there seems tb negative exposure in applying MS
fixes... and I was wondering if anybody had actually had a
problem because they did *not* apply a fix.
--
PeteCresswell
 
U

Unknown

Flightless Bird
He was correct-------you are paranoid.
"joe" <joe@ebox.com> wrote in message
news:uYc7ZBOrKHA.732@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> This is more of what I would have expected from you PA. I kmow you are
> heavily involved with update queries and apreciate you taking the time to
> respond. I still feel nervous about the whole update issue after this
> little hicup.
>
>
> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:%23$%230XoMrKHA.4752@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> Sorry, it's been a long week in the trenches dealing with those
>> BSOD/KB977165 issues here.
>>
>>>>> Firstly, why did my update install perfectly when so many others had
>>>>> this
>>>>> huge problem? Was I just lucky?
>>
>> Luck had nothing to do with it. Practicing 'Safe Hex' did: It's
>> beginning to look like the vast majority of these BSODs were caused by
>> hijackware infections, primarily W32/Alureon-variants.
>>
>>>>> Has this kind of thing happened before with bad updates?
>>
>> If your computer's security was compromised, yes.
>>
>>>>> Can I feel safe in downloading these updates automatically.
>>
>> Very generally speaking, yes. Should you ever need assistance...
>>
>> For home users, no-charge support is available by calling 1-866-PCSAFETY
>> (and/or 1-866-234-6020 and/or 1-800-936-5700) in the United States and in
>> Canada or by contacting your local Microsoft subsidiary. There is
>> no-charge for support calls that are associated with security updates.
>> When you call, clearly state that your problem is related to a Security
>> Update and cite the update's KB number (e.g., KB999999).
>>
>> Or you can...
>>
>> Start a free Windows Update support incident request:
>> https://support.microsoft.com/oas/default.aspx?gprid=6527
>>
>> Consumer Security Support home page & Microsoft Update Solution Center
>> also offer support options
>> https://consumersecuritysupport.microsoft.com/
>> http://support.microsoft.com/ph/6527#tab3
>>
>> For more information about how to contact your local Microsoft subsidiary
>> for security update support issues, visit the International Support Web
>> site: http://support.microsoft.com/common/international.aspx
>> --
>> ~PA Bear
>>
>> joe wrote:
>>> What kind of response is that?
>>>
>>>> How long have you been so paranoid?
>>>>
>>>> joe wrote:
>>>>> I have win xp pro sp3
>>>>>
>>>>> I lived in a remote area without internet access so never did any
>>>>> updates
>>>>> other than the service packs, no internet no threats :)
>>>>> I now have broadband and am fully up to date with all Microsoft
>>>>> updates.
>>>>>
>>>>> However this latest problem with KB977165 has really scared me. I am
>>>>> not
>>>>> too
>>>>> happy about using the recovery tool and how would I have found out the
>>>>> solution anyway without a pc to access the Internet? ( I am still in a
>>>>> remote area with no other pc's around )
>>>>>
>>>>> So I have a couple of questions for the experts here.
>>>>>
>>>>> Firstly, why did my update install perfectly when so many others had
>>>>> this
>>>>> huge problem? Was I just lucky?
>>>>>
>>>>> Has this kind of thing happened before with bad updates?
>>>>>
>>>>> Can I feel safe in downloading these updates automatically.
>>>>>
>>>>> I would feel much better if you guys could give me the benefit of your
>>>>> experience.
>>>>>
>>>>> TIA
>>
>
>
 
P

PA Bear [MS MVP]

Flightless Bird
cf.
http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windowsupdate/browse_frm/thread/a3b667a339eac072

joe wrote:
> This is more of what I would have expected from you PA. I kmow you are
> heavily involved with update queries and apreciate you taking the time to
> respond. I still feel nervous about the whole update issue after this
> little
> hicup.
>
>
> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:%23$%230XoMrKHA.4752@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> Sorry, it's been a long week in the trenches dealing with those
>> BSOD/KB977165 issues here.
>>
>>>>> Firstly, why did my update install perfectly when so many others had
>>>>> this
>>>>> huge problem? Was I just lucky?
>>
>> Luck had nothing to do with it. Practicing 'Safe Hex' did: It's
>> beginning
>> to look like the vast majority of these BSODs were caused by hijackware
>> infections, primarily W32/Alureon-variants.
>>
>>>>> Has this kind of thing happened before with bad updates?
>>
>> If your computer's security was compromised, yes.
>>
>>>>> Can I feel safe in downloading these updates automatically.
>>
>> Very generally speaking, yes. Should you ever need assistance...
>>
>> For home users, no-charge support is available by calling 1-866-PCSAFETY
>> (and/or 1-866-234-6020 and/or 1-800-936-5700) in the United States and in
>> Canada or by contacting your local Microsoft subsidiary. There is
>> no-charge for support calls that are associated with security updates.
>> When you call, clearly state that your problem is related to a Security
>> Update and cite the update's KB number (e.g., KB999999).
>>
>> Or you can...
>>
>> Start a free Windows Update support incident request:
>> https://support.microsoft.com/oas/default.aspx?gprid=6527
>>
>> Consumer Security Support home page & Microsoft Update Solution Center
>> also offer support options
>> https://consumersecuritysupport.microsoft.com/
>> http://support.microsoft.com/ph/6527#tab3
>>
>> For more information about how to contact your local Microsoft subsidiary
>> for security update support issues, visit the International Support Web
>> site: http://support.microsoft.com/common/international.aspx
>> --
>> ~PA Bear
>>
>> joe wrote:
>>> What kind of response is that?
>>>
>>>> How long have you been so paranoid?
>>>>
>>>> joe wrote:
>>>>> I have win xp pro sp3
>>>>>
>>>>> I lived in a remote area without internet access so never did any
>>>>> updates
>>>>> other than the service packs, no internet no threats :)
>>>>> I now have broadband and am fully up to date with all Microsoft
>>>>> updates.
>>>>>
>>>>> However this latest problem with KB977165 has really scared me. I am
>>>>> not
>>>>> too
>>>>> happy about using the recovery tool and how would I have found out the
>>>>> solution anyway without a pc to access the Internet? ( I am still in a
>>>>> remote area with no other pc's around )
>>>>>
>>>>> So I have a couple of questions for the experts here.
>>>>>
>>>>> Firstly, why did my update install perfectly when so many others had
>>>>> this
>>>>> huge problem? Was I just lucky?
>>>>>
>>>>> Has this kind of thing happened before with bad updates?
>>>>>
>>>>> Can I feel safe in downloading these updates automatically.
>>>>>
>>>>> I would feel much better if you guys could give me the benefit of your
>>>>> experience.
>>>>>
>>>>> TIA
 
2

20100214

Flightless Bird
Yes I can confidently say that M$ updates are a complete and utter waste of
time. They are an added extra and are optional.

If you have Windows XP with SP3 installed then you would be completely
protected if you follow the following:

1) In Windows firewall settings, In the General Tab, make sure ON is ticked
and also "Don't allow exceptions" is ticked

2) On exceptions tab, remove tabs against everything; You don't need to
allow any exceptions;

3) On Advanced tab, click on Restore default button.

Ideally you should start with 3, then 2 and then 1. Although in 1 you have
disallowed all exceptions, I wouldn't trust it because I have come across
circumstances where M$ software failed horribly.

I have not installed any updates post SP3 and have no intentions of
installing any of them.

hth

"joe" <joe@ebox.com> wrote in message
news:%23xpodq%23qKHA.5896@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>I have win xp pro sp3
>
> I lived in a remote area without internet access so never did any updates
> other than the service packs, no internet no threats :)
> I now have broadband and am fully up to date with all Microsoft updates.
>
> However this latest problem with KB977165 has really scared me. I am not
> too happy about using the recovery tool and how would I have found out the
> solution anyway without a pc to access the Internet? ( I am still in a
> remote area with no other pc's around )
>
> So I have a couple of questions for the experts here.
>
> Firstly, why did my update install perfectly when so many others had this
> huge problem? Was I just lucky?
>
> Has this kind of thing happened before with bad updates?
>
> Can I feel safe in downloading these updates automatically.
>
> I would feel much better if you guys could give me the benefit of your
> experience.
>
> TIA
>
>
 
P

PA Bear [MS MVP]

Flightless Bird
FUD

20100214 wrote:
> Yes I can confidently say that M$ updates are a complete and utter waste
> of
> time. They are an added extra and are optional.
>
> If you have Windows XP with SP3 installed then you would be completely
> protected if you follow the following:
>
> 1) In Windows firewall settings, In the General Tab, make sure ON is
> ticked
> and also "Don't allow exceptions" is ticked
>
> 2) On exceptions tab, remove tabs against everything; You don't need to
> allow any exceptions;
>
> 3) On Advanced tab, click on Restore default button.
>
> Ideally you should start with 3, then 2 and then 1. Although in 1 you
> have
> disallowed all exceptions, I wouldn't trust it because I have come across
> circumstances where M$ software failed horribly.
>
> I have not installed any updates post SP3 and have no intentions of
> installing any of them.
>
> hth
>
> "joe" <joe@ebox.com> wrote in message
> news:%23xpodq%23qKHA.5896@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> I have win xp pro sp3
>>
>> I lived in a remote area without internet access so never did any updates
>> other than the service packs, no internet no threats :)
>> I now have broadband and am fully up to date with all Microsoft updates.
>>
>> However this latest problem with KB977165 has really scared me. I am not
>> too happy about using the recovery tool and how would I have found out
>> the
>> solution anyway without a pc to access the Internet? ( I am still in a
>> remote area with no other pc's around )
>>
>> So I have a couple of questions for the experts here.
>>
>> Firstly, why did my update install perfectly when so many others had this
>> huge problem? Was I just lucky?
>>
>> Has this kind of thing happened before with bad updates?
>>
>> Can I feel safe in downloading these updates automatically.
>>
>> I would feel much better if you guys could give me the benefit of your
>> experience.
>>
>> TIA
 
S

Sanford Aranoff

Flightless Bird
20100214 wrote:
>
> Yes I can confidently say that M$ updates are a complete and utter waste of
> time. They are an added extra and are optional.
>
> If you have Windows XP with SP3 installed then you would be completely
> protected if you follow the following:
>
> 1) In Windows firewall settings, In the General Tab, make sure ON is ticked
> and also "Don't allow exceptions" is ticked
>
> 2) On exceptions tab, remove tabs against everything; You don't need to
> allow any exceptions;
>
> 3) On Advanced tab, click on Restore default button.
>
> Ideally you should start with 3, then 2 and then 1. Although in 1 you have
> disallowed all exceptions, I wouldn't trust it because I have come across
> circumstances where M$ software failed horribly.
>
> I have not installed any updates post SP3 and have no intentions of
> installing any of them.

Makes sense. I did as you suggested. Any comments? Do we
need security updates if we have good AV and anti-Spy? What
are the drawbacks that you can think of? How do you respond
to the comment FUD?
 
2

20100215

Flightless Bird
"PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:u%23ZIRTZrKHA.5036@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> FUD


Are you seriously looking for: female urination device?

This would certainly enable you to urinate while standing upright.
Variations include basic funnel shapes to more obscure and comedic designs.
Have you changed your gender already? Join Mow Green and you can have
lesbian relationship!
 
2

20100215

Flightless Bird
"Sanford Aranoff" <aranoff@analysis-knowledge.com> wrote in message
news:4B78ADCA.686357FE@analysis-knowledge.com...
> 20100214 wrote:
>>
>
> Makes sense. I did as you suggested. Any comments? Do we
> need security updates if we have good AV and anti-Spy? What
> are the drawbacks that you can think of? How do you respond
> to the comment FUD?

No. If you have updated Anti-Virus (AVG, AVAST or MSE) and Windows Defender
you are well protected. AVG and Windows Defender doesn't work in tandem so
avoid AVG. I have MSE, Windows Defender and Avast on my system.

I have stopped all updates (Turn off Automatic Updates) coming to my system.
Only the Anti-Virus and Windows defender gets through my firewall
protection.

I have replied to FUD comment separately to pig-bear directly. Pig-Bear and
me are not completely compatible so just ignore him.

hth
 
U

Unknown

Flightless Bird
And, how do you know of such items? Tried them?
"20100215" <20100215@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:uR%23rgtirKHA.5940@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>
> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:u%23ZIRTZrKHA.5036@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> FUD
>
>
> Are you seriously looking for: female urination device?
>
> This would certainly enable you to urinate while standing upright.
> Variations include basic funnel shapes to more obscure and comedic
> designs. Have you changed your gender already? Join Mow Green and you can
> have lesbian relationship!
>
>
>
>
>
>
 
S

Sanford Aranoff

Flightless Bird
20100215 wrote:
>
> "Sanford Aranoff" <aranoff@analysis-knowledge.com> wrote in message
> news:4B78ADCA.686357FE@analysis-knowledge.com...
> > 20100214 wrote:
> >>
> >
> > Makes sense. I did as you suggested. Any comments? Do we
> > need security updates if we have good AV and anti-Spy? What
> > are the drawbacks that you can think of? How do you respond
> > to the comment FUD?
>
> No. If you have updated Anti-Virus (AVG, AVAST or MSE) and Windows Defender
> you are well protected. AVG and Windows Defender doesn't work in tandem so
> avoid AVG. I have MSE, Windows Defender and Avast on my system.
>
> I have stopped all updates (Turn off Automatic Updates) coming to my system.
> Only the Anti-Virus and Windows defender gets through my firewall
> protection.
>
> I have replied to FUD comment separately to pig-bear directly. Pig-Bear and
> me are not completely compatible so just ignore him.
>
> hth

I have BitDefender AV and Webroot Anti-Spyware.
 
K

Kevin John Panzke

Flightless Bird
Re: NO, UPDATES ARE NOT DANGEROUS, SCAN YOUR PC 4 MALWARE AND THENTRY AGAIN!

Sanford Aranoff wrote: > 20100215 wrote: > > > > "Sanford Aranoff"
<aranoff@analysis-knowledge.com> wrote in message > > news:4B78ADCA.
686357FE@analysis-knowledge.com... > > > 20100214 wrote: > > >> > > >
> > > Makes sense. I did as you suggested. Any comments? Do we > > >
need security updates if we have good AV and anti-Spy? What > > > are
the drawbacks that you can think of? How do you respond > > > to the
comment FUD? > > > > No. If you have updated Anti-Virus (AVG, AVAST or
MSE) and Windows Defender > > you are well protected. AVG and Windows
Defender doesn't work in tandem so > > avoid AVG. I have MSE, Windows
Defender and Avast on my system. > > > > I have stopped all updates
(Turn off Automatic Updates) coming to my system. > > Only the Anti-
Virus and Windows defender gets through my firewall > > protection. >
> > > I have replied to FUD comment separately to pig-bear directly.
Pig-Bear and > > me are not completely compatible so just ignore him.
> > > > hth > > I have BitDefender AV and
 
K

Kevin John Panzke

Flightless Bird
Re: P.S. THREAD CLOSED!

Kevin John Panzke wrote: > Sanford Aranoff wrote: > 20100215 wrote: >
> > > "Sanford Aranoff" > <aranoff@analysis-knowledge.com> wrote in
message > > news:4B78ADCA. > 686357FE@analysis-knowledge.com... > > >
20100214 wrote: > > >> > > > > > > > Makes sense. I did as you
suggested. Any comments? Do we > > > > need security updates if we
have good AV and anti-Spy? What > > > are > the drawbacks that you can
think of? How do you respond > > > to the > comment FUD? > > > > No.
If you have updated Anti-Virus (AVG, AVAST or > MSE) and Windows
Defender > > you are well protected. AVG and Windows > Defender
doesn't work in tandem so > > avoid AVG. I have MSE, Windows >
Defender and Avast on my system. > > > > I have stopped all updates >
(Turn off Automatic Updates) coming to my system. > > Only the Anti- >
Virus and Windows defender gets through my firewall > > protection. >
> > > > I have replied to FUD comment separately to pig-bear directly.
> Pig-Bear and > > me are not completely compatible so just ignore hi
 
J

joe

Flightless Bird
And you are exactly what everone says about you.

"Unknown" <unknown@unknown.kom> wrote in message
news:%23Nk57XPrKHA.5896@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> He was correct-------you are paranoid.
> "joe" <joe@ebox.com> wrote in message
> news:uYc7ZBOrKHA.732@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> This is more of what I would have expected from you PA. I kmow you are
>> heavily involved with update queries and apreciate you taking the time to
>> respond. I still feel nervous about the whole update issue after this
>> little hicup.
>>
>>
>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:%23$%230XoMrKHA.4752@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>> Sorry, it's been a long week in the trenches dealing with those
>>> BSOD/KB977165 issues here.
>>>
>>>>>> Firstly, why did my update install perfectly when so many others had
>>>>>> this
>>>>>> huge problem? Was I just lucky?
>>>
>>> Luck had nothing to do with it. Practicing 'Safe Hex' did: It's
>>> beginning to look like the vast majority of these BSODs were caused by
>>> hijackware infections, primarily W32/Alureon-variants.
>>>
>>>>>> Has this kind of thing happened before with bad updates?
>>>
>>> If your computer's security was compromised, yes.
>>>
>>>>>> Can I feel safe in downloading these updates automatically.
>>>
>>> Very generally speaking, yes. Should you ever need assistance...
>>>
>>> For home users, no-charge support is available by calling 1-866-PCSAFETY
>>> (and/or 1-866-234-6020 and/or 1-800-936-5700) in the United States and
>>> in Canada or by contacting your local Microsoft subsidiary. There is
>>> no-charge for support calls that are associated with security updates.
>>> When you call, clearly state that your problem is related to a Security
>>> Update and cite the update's KB number (e.g., KB999999).
>>>
>>> Or you can...
>>>
>>> Start a free Windows Update support incident request:
>>> https://support.microsoft.com/oas/default.aspx?gprid=6527
>>>
>>> Consumer Security Support home page & Microsoft Update Solution Center
>>> also offer support options
>>> https://consumersecuritysupport.microsoft.com/
>>> http://support.microsoft.com/ph/6527#tab3
>>>
>>> For more information about how to contact your local Microsoft
>>> subsidiary for security update support issues, visit the International
>>> Support Web site: http://support.microsoft.com/common/international.aspx
>>> --
>>> ~PA Bear
>>>
>>> joe wrote:
>>>> What kind of response is that?
>>>>
>>>>> How long have you been so paranoid?
>>>>>
>>>>> joe wrote:
>>>>>> I have win xp pro sp3
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I lived in a remote area without internet access so never did any
>>>>>> updates
>>>>>> other than the service packs, no internet no threats :)
>>>>>> I now have broadband and am fully up to date with all Microsoft
>>>>>> updates.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> However this latest problem with KB977165 has really scared me. I am
>>>>>> not
>>>>>> too
>>>>>> happy about using the recovery tool and how would I have found out
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> solution anyway without a pc to access the Internet? ( I am still in
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> remote area with no other pc's around )
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So I have a couple of questions for the experts here.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Firstly, why did my update install perfectly when so many others had
>>>>>> this
>>>>>> huge problem? Was I just lucky?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Has this kind of thing happened before with bad updates?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Can I feel safe in downloading these updates automatically.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would feel much better if you guys could give me the benefit of
>>>>>> your
>>>>>> experience.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> TIA
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
 
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Flightless Bird
"joe" <joe@ebox.com> wrote in message
news:ezul9N$rKHA.1352@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> And you are exactly what everone says about you.
>

Unknown's <unknown@unknown.kom> mummy is impressed with my size!! She just
can't let it go! It is " absolutely amazing" that his biological father
produced a midget like him with no personality or brains.

I wouldn't get involved with that nutter.
 
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Unknown

Flightless Bird
Thank you very much for the kind comment.
"joe" <joe@ebox.com> wrote in message
news:ezul9N$rKHA.1352@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> And you are exactly what everone says about you.
>
> "Unknown" <unknown@unknown.kom> wrote in message
> news:%23Nk57XPrKHA.5896@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> He was correct-------you are paranoid.
>> "joe" <joe@ebox.com> wrote in message
>> news:uYc7ZBOrKHA.732@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>> This is more of what I would have expected from you PA. I kmow you are
>>> heavily involved with update queries and apreciate you taking the time
>>> to respond. I still feel nervous about the whole update issue after this
>>> little hicup.
>>>
>>>
>>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:%23$%230XoMrKHA.4752@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>> Sorry, it's been a long week in the trenches dealing with those
>>>> BSOD/KB977165 issues here.
>>>>
>>>>>>> Firstly, why did my update install perfectly when so many others had
>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>> huge problem? Was I just lucky?
>>>>
>>>> Luck had nothing to do with it. Practicing 'Safe Hex' did: It's
>>>> beginning to look like the vast majority of these BSODs were caused by
>>>> hijackware infections, primarily W32/Alureon-variants.
>>>>
>>>>>>> Has this kind of thing happened before with bad updates?
>>>>
>>>> If your computer's security was compromised, yes.
>>>>
>>>>>>> Can I feel safe in downloading these updates automatically.
>>>>
>>>> Very generally speaking, yes. Should you ever need assistance...
>>>>
>>>> For home users, no-charge support is available by calling
>>>> 1-866-PCSAFETY (and/or 1-866-234-6020 and/or 1-800-936-5700) in the
>>>> United States and in Canada or by contacting your local Microsoft
>>>> subsidiary. There is no-charge for support calls that are associated
>>>> with security updates. When you call, clearly state that your problem
>>>> is related to a Security Update and cite the update's KB number (e.g.,
>>>> KB999999).
>>>>
>>>> Or you can...
>>>>
>>>> Start a free Windows Update support incident request:
>>>> https://support.microsoft.com/oas/default.aspx?gprid=6527
>>>>
>>>> Consumer Security Support home page & Microsoft Update Solution Center
>>>> also offer support options
>>>> https://consumersecuritysupport.microsoft.com/
>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/ph/6527#tab3
>>>>
>>>> For more information about how to contact your local Microsoft
>>>> subsidiary for security update support issues, visit the International
>>>> Support Web site:
>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/common/international.aspx
>>>> --
>>>> ~PA Bear
>>>>
>>>> joe wrote:
>>>>> What kind of response is that?
>>>>>
>>>>>> How long have you been so paranoid?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> joe wrote:
>>>>>>> I have win xp pro sp3
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I lived in a remote area without internet access so never did any
>>>>>>> updates
>>>>>>> other than the service packs, no internet no threats :)
>>>>>>> I now have broadband and am fully up to date with all Microsoft
>>>>>>> updates.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> However this latest problem with KB977165 has really scared me. I am
>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>> too
>>>>>>> happy about using the recovery tool and how would I have found out
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> solution anyway without a pc to access the Internet? ( I am still in
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>> remote area with no other pc's around )
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So I have a couple of questions for the experts here.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Firstly, why did my update install perfectly when so many others had
>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>> huge problem? Was I just lucky?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Has this kind of thing happened before with bad updates?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Can I feel safe in downloading these updates automatically.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I would feel much better if you guys could give me the benefit of
>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>> experience.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> TIA
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
 
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