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Are any women here, seriouslY?

Discussion in 'Windows 7' started by Fred Manitoba, Sep 27, 2010.

  1. Fred Manitoba

    Fred Manitoba Flightless Bird

    Is this a law of Nature that technology & women don't get along?
    All of you guys, are GUYS.
    Any giulr here, ever?

    Don't give me that YouTube video with PixieNixie, it is not statistcis but
    exception + I suspect even her being an exception is fake, Games are not
    high-end brain-intensive workj anyway.

    I am an engineer so I have authority to say from experience - women are not
    present in this Land of equations & abstract, analytic thinking.
     
  2. On 9/27/2010 11:52 PM, Fred Manitoba wrote:
    > Is this a law of Nature that technology & women don't get along?
    > All of you guys, are GUYS.
    > Any giulr here, ever?
    >
    > Don't give me that YouTube video with PixieNixie, it is not statistcis
    > but exception + I suspect even her being an exception is fake, Games are
    > not high-end brain-intensive workj anyway.
    >
    > I am an engineer so I have authority to say from experience - women are
    > not present in this Land of equations & abstract, analytic thinking.


    I suppose your guess is as good as anyone's guess.
     
  3. Alias

    Alias Flightless Bird

    On 09/28/2010 03:27 PM, The poster formerly known as 'The Poster
    Formerly Known As Nina DiBoy' wrote:
    > On 9/27/2010 11:52 PM, Fred Manitoba wrote:
    >> Is this a law of Nature that technology & women don't get along?
    >> All of you guys, are GUYS.
    >> Any giulr here, ever?
    >>
    >> Don't give me that YouTube video with PixieNixie, it is not statistcis
    >> but exception + I suspect even her being an exception is fake, Games are
    >> not high-end brain-intensive workj anyway.
    >>
    >> I am an engineer so I have authority to say from experience - women are
    >> not present in this Land of equations & abstract, analytic thinking.

    >
    > I suppose your guess is as good as anyone's guess.


    I bet my guess is better: you're female :)

    --
    Alias
     
  4. Ophelia

    Ophelia Flightless Bird

    "Fred Manitoba" <fmanitoba@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    news:i7roq8$lhm$2@news.eternal-september.org...
    > Is this a law of Nature that technology & women don't get along?
    > All of you guys, are GUYS.
    > Any giulr here, ever?
    >
    > Don't give me that YouTube video with PixieNixie, it is not statistcis but
    > exception + I suspect even her being an exception is fake, Games are not
    > high-end brain-intensive workj anyway.
    >
    > I am an engineer so I have authority to say from experience - women are
    > not present in this Land of equations & abstract, analytic thinking.


    LOL well *I* am female and so is Grenou:) I don't post much but I do read!


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  5. On 9/28/2010 9:27 AM, Alias wrote:
    > On 09/28/2010 03:27 PM, The poster formerly known as 'The Poster
    > Formerly Known As Nina DiBoy' wrote:
    >> On 9/27/2010 11:52 PM, Fred Manitoba wrote:

    <snip>
    >>> I am an engineer so I have authority to say from experience - women are
    >>> not present in this Land of equations & abstract, analytic thinking.


    Yes, it sucks that this is one of the many male-dominated fields.

    >>
    >> I suppose your guess is as good as anyone's guess.

    >
    > I bet my guess is better: you're female :)
    >



    You know me too well! ;)
     
  6. Dave \Crash\ Dummy

    Dave \Crash\ Dummy Flightless Bird

    Ophelia wrote:
    >
    >
    > "Fred Manitoba" <fmanitoba@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    > news:i7roq8$lhm$2@news.eternal-september.org...
    >> Is this a law of Nature that technology & women don't get along?
    >> All of you guys, are GUYS. Any giulr here, ever?
    >>
    >> Don't give me that YouTube video with PixieNixie, it is not
    >> statistcis but exception + I suspect even her being an exception is
    >> fake, Games are not high-end brain-intensive workj anyway.
    >>
    >> I am an engineer so I have authority to say from experience - women
    >> are not present in this Land of equations & abstract, analytic
    >> thinking.

    >
    > LOL well *I* am female and so is Grenou:) I don't post much but I do
    > read!


    I don't know about this group, but a lot of female Usenet participants
    don't reveal their gender in order to avoid cyberstalkers. If I was a
    woman, I don't think I would advertise it.
    --
    Crash

    "Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel."
    ~ Samuel Johnson ~
     
  7. Ophelia

    Ophelia Flightless Bird

    "Dave "Crash" Dummy" <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
    news:i7vish$boa$1@news.eternal-september.org...
    > Ophelia wrote:
    >>
    >>
    >> "Fred Manitoba" <fmanitoba@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    >> news:i7roq8$lhm$2@news.eternal-september.org...
    >>> Is this a law of Nature that technology & women don't get along? All of
    >>> you guys, are GUYS. Any giulr here, ever?
    >>>
    >>> Don't give me that YouTube video with PixieNixie, it is not statistcis
    >>> but exception + I suspect even her being an exception is
    >>> fake, Games are not high-end brain-intensive workj anyway.
    >>>
    >>> I am an engineer so I have authority to say from experience - women
    >>> are not present in this Land of equations & abstract, analytic
    >>> thinking.

    >>
    >> LOL well *I* am female and so is Grenou:) I don't post much but I do
    >> read!

    >
    > I don't know about this group, but a lot of female Usenet participants
    > don't reveal their gender in order to avoid cyberstalkers. If I was a
    > woman, I don't think I would advertise it.


    Do you mean online or in rl?

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  8. Alias

    Alias Flightless Bird

    On 09/29/2010 04:35 PM, Dave "Crash" Dummy wrote:
    > Ophelia wrote:
    >>
    >>
    >> "Fred Manitoba" <fmanitoba@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    >> news:i7roq8$lhm$2@news.eternal-september.org...
    >>> Is this a law of Nature that technology & women don't get along? All
    >>> of you guys, are GUYS. Any giulr here, ever?
    >>>
    >>> Don't give me that YouTube video with PixieNixie, it is not
    >>> statistcis but exception + I suspect even her being an exception is
    >>> fake, Games are not high-end brain-intensive workj anyway.
    >>>
    >>> I am an engineer so I have authority to say from experience - women
    >>> are not present in this Land of equations & abstract, analytic thinking.

    >>
    >> LOL well *I* am female and so is Grenou:) I don't post much but I do
    >> read!

    >
    > I don't know about this group, but a lot of female Usenet participants
    > don't reveal their gender in order to avoid cyberstalkers. If I was a
    > woman, I don't think I would advertise it.


    I think the cyberstalkers are more into Facebook and the like than Usenet.

    --
    Alias
     
  9. Dave \Crash\ Dummy

    Dave \Crash\ Dummy Flightless Bird

    Ophelia wrote:
    >
    >
    > "Dave "Crash" Dummy" <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
    > news:i7vish$boa$1@news.eternal-september.org...
    >> Ophelia wrote:
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> "Fred Manitoba" <fmanitoba@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    >>> news:i7roq8$lhm$2@news.eternal-september.org...
    >>>> Is this a law of Nature that technology & women don't get
    >>>> along? All of you guys, are GUYS. Any giulr here, ever?
    >>>>
    >>>> Don't give me that YouTube video with PixieNixie, it is not
    >>>> statistcis but exception + I suspect even her being an
    >>>> exception is fake, Games are not high-end brain-intensive workj
    >>>> anyway.
    >>>>
    >>>> I am an engineer so I have authority to say from experience -
    >>>> women are not present in this Land of equations & abstract,
    >>>> analytic thinking.
    >>>
    >>> LOL well *I* am female and so is Grenou:) I don't post much but
    >>> I do read!

    >>
    >> I don't know about this group, but a lot of female Usenet
    >> participants don't reveal their gender in order to avoid
    >> cyberstalkers. If I was a woman, I don't think I would advertise
    >> it.

    >
    > Do you mean online or in rl?


    Online. It would be a little hard to hide one's gender in real life. As
    for the stalking, even online would be at least annoying and irritating,
    but a skilled and persistent stalker after unskilled prey could learn
    enough to turn cyberstalking into real life stalking.

    Anyway, this is a technical group, not a social club. Gender is
    irrelevant. Identifying participants by sex alters the group dynamic.
    --
    Crash

    Atheism is a matter of faith, too.
     
  10. Ophelia

    Ophelia Flightless Bird

    "Dave "Crash" Dummy" <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
    news:i7vkql$jmp$1@news.eternal-september.org...
    > Ophelia wrote:
    >>
    >>
    >> "Dave "Crash" Dummy" <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
    >> news:i7vish$boa$1@news.eternal-september.org...
    >>> Ophelia wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> "Fred Manitoba" <fmanitoba@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    >>>> news:i7roq8$lhm$2@news.eternal-september.org...
    >>>>> Is this a law of Nature that technology & women don't get along? All
    >>>>> of you guys, are GUYS. Any giulr here, ever?
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Don't give me that YouTube video with PixieNixie, it is not statistcis
    >>>>> but exception + I suspect even her being an exception is fake, Games
    >>>>> are not high-end brain-intensive workj
    >>>>> anyway.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> I am an engineer so I have authority to say from experience - women
    >>>>> are not present in this Land of equations & abstract, analytic
    >>>>> thinking.
    >>>>
    >>>> LOL well *I* am female and so is Grenou:) I don't post much but I do
    >>>> read!
    >>>
    >>> I don't know about this group, but a lot of female Usenet participants
    >>> don't reveal their gender in order to avoid cyberstalkers. If I was a
    >>> woman, I don't think I would advertise it.

    >>
    >> Do you mean online or in rl?

    >
    > Online. It would be a little hard to hide one's gender in real life. As
    > for the stalking, even online would be at least annoying and irritating,
    > but a skilled and persistent stalker after unskilled prey could learn
    > enough to turn cyberstalking into real life stalking.
    >
    > Anyway, this is a technical group, not a social club. Gender is
    > irrelevant. Identifying participants by sex alters the group dynamic.


    True enough:) As for online stalkers.... been there, had that done to me.
    The best defence is laughter at the antics:)

    Anyway, I am not here as a mere female... I like to learn!
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    https://www.shop.helpforheroes.org.uk/
     
  11. Dave \Crash\ Dummy

    Dave \Crash\ Dummy Flightless Bird

    Ophelia wrote:
    >
    >
    > "Dave "Crash" Dummy" <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
    > news:i7vkql$jmp$1@news.eternal-september.org...
    >> Ophelia wrote:
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> "Dave "Crash" Dummy" <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
    >>> news:i7vish$boa$1@news.eternal-september.org...
    >>>> Ophelia wrote:
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>> "Fred Manitoba" <fmanitoba@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    >>>>> news:i7roq8$lhm$2@news.eternal-september.org...
    >>>>>> Is this a law of Nature that technology & women don't get along?
    >>>>>> All of you guys, are GUYS. Any giulr here, ever?
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Don't give me that YouTube video with PixieNixie, it is not
    >>>>>> statistcis but exception + I suspect even her being an exception
    >>>>>> is fake, Games are not high-end brain-intensive workj
    >>>>>> anyway.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> I am an engineer so I have authority to say from experience -
    >>>>>> women are not present in this Land of equations & abstract,
    >>>>>> analytic thinking.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> LOL well *I* am female and so is Grenou:) I don't post much but I
    >>>>> do read!
    >>>>
    >>>> I don't know about this group, but a lot of female Usenet
    >>>> participants don't reveal their gender in order to avoid
    >>>> cyberstalkers. If I was a woman, I don't think I would advertise it.
    >>>
    >>> Do you mean online or in rl?

    >>
    >> Online. It would be a little hard to hide one's gender in real life. As
    >> for the stalking, even online would be at least annoying and irritating,
    >> but a skilled and persistent stalker after unskilled prey could learn
    >> enough to turn cyberstalking into real life stalking.
    >>
    >> Anyway, this is a technical group, not a social club. Gender is
    >> irrelevant. Identifying participants by sex alters the group dynamic.

    >
    > True enough:) As for online stalkers.... been there, had that done to
    > me. The best defence is laughter at the antics:)
    >
    > Anyway, I am not here as a mere female... I like to learn!


    Welcome. I've never met a mere female. :)
    --
    Crash

    "Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel."
    ~ Samuel Johnson ~
     
  12. Ophelia

    Ophelia Flightless Bird

    "Dave "Crash" Dummy" <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
    news:i7vlp4$n5o$1@news.eternal-september.org...
    > Ophelia wrote:
    >>
    >>
    >> "Dave "Crash" Dummy" <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
    >> news:i7vkql$jmp$1@news.eternal-september.org...
    >>> Ophelia wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> "Dave "Crash" Dummy" <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
    >>>> news:i7vish$boa$1@news.eternal-september.org...
    >>>>> Ophelia wrote:
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> "Fred Manitoba" <fmanitoba@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    >>>>>> news:i7roq8$lhm$2@news.eternal-september.org...
    >>>>>>> Is this a law of Nature that technology & women don't get along? All
    >>>>>>> of you guys, are GUYS. Any giulr here, ever?
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> Don't give me that YouTube video with PixieNixie, it is not
    >>>>>>> statistcis but exception + I suspect even her being an exception is
    >>>>>>> fake, Games are not high-end brain-intensive workj
    >>>>>>> anyway.
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> I am an engineer so I have authority to say from experience - women
    >>>>>>> are not present in this Land of equations & abstract, analytic
    >>>>>>> thinking.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> LOL well *I* am female and so is Grenou:) I don't post much but I do
    >>>>>> read!
    >>>>>
    >>>>> I don't know about this group, but a lot of female Usenet participants
    >>>>> don't reveal their gender in order to avoid cyberstalkers. If I was a
    >>>>> woman, I don't think I would advertise it.
    >>>>
    >>>> Do you mean online or in rl?
    >>>
    >>> Online. It would be a little hard to hide one's gender in real life. As
    >>> for the stalking, even online would be at least annoying and irritating,
    >>> but a skilled and persistent stalker after unskilled prey could learn
    >>> enough to turn cyberstalking into real life stalking.
    >>>
    >>> Anyway, this is a technical group, not a social club. Gender is
    >>> irrelevant. Identifying participants by sex alters the group dynamic.

    >>
    >> True enough:) As for online stalkers.... been there, had that done to
    >> me. The best defence is laughter at the antics:)
    >>
    >> Anyway, I am not here as a mere female... I like to learn!

    >
    > Welcome. I've never met a mere female. :)


    LOL .. thanks anyway:)

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  13. gh.gobert

    gh.gobert Flightless Bird

    "Alias" <aka@masked&anonymous.com.¡nval¡daditos> a écrit dans le message de
    news:i7vko2$1tn$1@news.eternal-september.org...
    > On 09/29/2010 04:35 PM, Dave "Crash" Dummy wrote:
    >> Ophelia wrote:
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> "Fred Manitoba" <fmanitoba@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    >>> news:i7roq8$lhm$2@news.eternal-september.org...
    >>>> Is this a law of Nature that technology & women don't get along? All
    >>>> of you guys, are GUYS. Any giulr here, ever?
    >>>>
    >>>> Don't give me that YouTube video with PixieNixie, it is not
    >>>> statistcis but exception + I suspect even her being an exception is
    >>>> fake, Games are not high-end brain-intensive workj anyway.
    >>>>
    >>>> I am an engineer so I have authority to say from experience - women
    >>>> are not present in this Land of equations & abstract, analytic
    >>>> thinking.
    >>>
    >>> LOL well *I* am female and so is Grenou:) I don't post much but I do
    >>> read!

    >>
    >> I don't know about this group, but a lot of female Usenet participants
    >> don't reveal their gender in order to avoid cyberstalkers. If I was a
    >> woman, I don't think I would advertise it.

    >
    > I think the cyberstalkers are more into Facebook and the like than Usenet.
    >
    > --
    > Alias


    Just look for Daubechies wavelets in Wikipedia and all male SUPERIORS will
    be quiet.

    M.
     
  14. Ophelia

    Ophelia Flightless Bird

    "gh.gobert" <a@b.c> wrote in message
    news:i7vo00$3vg$1@news.eternal-september.org...
    > "Alias" <aka@masked&anonymous.com.¡nval¡daditos> a écrit dans le message
    > de news:i7vko2$1tn$1@news.eternal-september.org...
    >> On 09/29/2010 04:35 PM, Dave "Crash" Dummy wrote:
    >>> Ophelia wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> "Fred Manitoba" <fmanitoba@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    >>>> news:i7roq8$lhm$2@news.eternal-september.org...
    >>>>> Is this a law of Nature that technology & women don't get along? All
    >>>>> of you guys, are GUYS. Any giulr here, ever?
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Don't give me that YouTube video with PixieNixie, it is not
    >>>>> statistcis but exception + I suspect even her being an exception is
    >>>>> fake, Games are not high-end brain-intensive workj anyway.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> I am an engineer so I have authority to say from experience - women
    >>>>> are not present in this Land of equations & abstract, analytic
    >>>>> thinking.
    >>>>
    >>>> LOL well *I* am female and so is Grenou:) I don't post much but I do
    >>>> read!
    >>>
    >>> I don't know about this group, but a lot of female Usenet participants
    >>> don't reveal their gender in order to avoid cyberstalkers. If I was a
    >>> woman, I don't think I would advertise it.

    >>
    >> I think the cyberstalkers are more into Facebook and the like than
    >> Usenet.
    >>
    >> --
    >> Alias

    >
    > Just look for Daubechies wavelets in Wikipedia and all male SUPERIORS will
    > be quiet.


    Male superiors eh? <snigger>
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  15. Valorie *~~

    Valorie *~~ Flightless Bird

    "Ophelia" <Ophelia@Elsinore.me.uk> wrote in message
    news:8gh1r8Ff9jU1@mid.individual.net...
    >
    >
    > "Dave "Crash" Dummy" <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
    > news:i7vish$boa$1@news.eternal-september.org...
    >> Ophelia wrote:
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> "Fred Manitoba" <fmanitoba@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    >>> news:i7roq8$lhm$2@news.eternal-september.org...
    >>>> Is this a law of Nature that technology & women don't get along? All of
    >>>> you guys, are GUYS. Any giulr here, ever?
    >>>>
    >>>> Don't give me that YouTube video with PixieNixie, it is not statistcis
    >>>> but exception + I suspect even her being an exception is
    >>>> fake, Games are not high-end brain-intensive workj anyway.
    >>>>
    >>>> I am an engineer so I have authority to say from experience - women
    >>>> are not present in this Land of equations & abstract, analytic
    >>>> thinking.
    >>>
    >>> LOL well *I* am female and so is Grenou:) I don't post much but I do
    >>> read!

    >>
    >> I don't know about this group, but a lot of female Usenet participants
    >> don't reveal their gender in order to avoid cyberstalkers. If I was a
    >> woman, I don't think I would advertise it.

    >
    > Do you mean online or in rl?


    Both. I have a cyber stalker who found out where I live and it became, in
    time, a police issue. The net is full of mentally ill and malicious people,
    not just pedophiles looking to snare our children and grandchildren.

    >
    > --
    > https://www.shop.helpforheroes.org.uk/
     
  16. Valorie *~~

    Valorie *~~ Flightless Bird

    "Ophelia" <Ophelia@Elsinore.me.uk> wrote in message
    news:8gh3d9FojbU1@mid.individual.net...
    >
    > True enough:) As for online stalkers.... been there, had that done to me.
    > The best defence is laughter at the antics:)


    It can be very frightening when they go after you in RL. Never
    underestimate a mentally ill reprobate.

    >
    > Anyway, I am not here as a mere female... I like to learn!
    > --
    > --
    > https://www.shop.helpforheroes.org.uk/
     
  17. Fred Manitoba

    Fred Manitoba Flightless Bird

    Time to end MY topic.
    I posted it because I was extremely horny at the time, now I am hungry.
    Between hunger & horniness, I am busy.

    Stan.
     
  18. Ophelia

    Ophelia Flightless Bird

    "Valorie *~~" <ValMcl@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
    news:4ca3e622@news.x-privat.org...
    > "Ophelia" <Ophelia@Elsinore.me.uk> wrote in message
    > news:8gh1r8Ff9jU1@mid.individual.net...
    >>
    >>
    >> "Dave "Crash" Dummy" <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
    >> news:i7vish$boa$1@news.eternal-september.org...
    >>> Ophelia wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> "Fred Manitoba" <fmanitoba@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    >>>> news:i7roq8$lhm$2@news.eternal-september.org...
    >>>>> Is this a law of Nature that technology & women don't get along? All
    >>>>> of you guys, are GUYS. Any giulr here, ever?
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Don't give me that YouTube video with PixieNixie, it is not statistcis
    >>>>> but exception + I suspect even her being an exception is
    >>>>> fake, Games are not high-end brain-intensive workj anyway.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> I am an engineer so I have authority to say from experience - women
    >>>>> are not present in this Land of equations & abstract, analytic
    >>>>> thinking.
    >>>>
    >>>> LOL well *I* am female and so is Grenou:) I don't post much but I do
    >>>> read!
    >>>
    >>> I don't know about this group, but a lot of female Usenet participants
    >>> don't reveal their gender in order to avoid cyberstalkers. If I was a
    >>> woman, I don't think I would advertise it.

    >>
    >> Do you mean online or in rl?

    >
    > Both. I have a cyber stalker who found out where I live and it became, in
    > time, a police issue. The net is full of mentally ill and malicious
    > people, not just pedophiles looking to snare our children and
    > grandchildren.


    Good grief! Although I did have trouble with a woman in another group. She
    made up all kinds of stories about me and my husband. He doesn't even post
    on usenet but it was done to hurt me. Had those lies been believed he would
    have been unemployable. He had to send a Cease and Desist notice and was
    quite prepared to go to law. There was, for some time a 'rule' in the
    groups that what happens on usenet, stays on usenet. A gift for cruel and
    malicious people.
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  19. Ophelia

    Ophelia Flightless Bird

    "Valorie *~~" <ValMcl@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
    news:4ca3e6a7@news.x-privat.org...
    > "Ophelia" <Ophelia@Elsinore.me.uk> wrote in message
    > news:8gh3d9FojbU1@mid.individual.net...
    >>
    >> True enough:) As for online stalkers.... been there, had that done to
    >> me. The best defence is laughter at the antics:)

    >
    > It can be very frightening when they go after you in RL. Never
    > underestimate a mentally ill reprobate.


    I imagine it must have been:( I hope all is well now?
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  20. Ophelia

    Ophelia Flightless Bird

    "Fred Manitoba" <fmanitoba@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    news:i80vj0$ies$1@news.eternal-september.org...
    > Time to end MY topic.
    > I posted it because I was extremely horny at the time, now I am hungry.
    > Between hunger & horniness, I am busy.


    Sorry chum, your topic has been highjacked:) How about my recipe for
    Yorkshire pudding ;P
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