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Anyone know of a docking device that supportts 1920 X 1200 VGA?

Discussion in 'Notebooks' started by tolgan, May 5, 2010.

  1. tolgan

    tolgan Flightless Bird

    I have a Dell Inspiron 1750 which drives just fine my Dell 2407 1920 X
    1200 monitor if I connect via the VGA socket on the laptop.

    But I want to buy a docking device, I haven't found one rated at that
    resolution?

    [BTW if you don't know, but know of another place worth asking I would
    be grateful to know?]
     
  2. BillW50

    BillW50 Flightless Bird

    In news:sll3u5tgp643ncolmpm112sht92mk6r8tu@4ax.com,
    tolgan typed on Wed, 05 May 2010 21:53:39 +0100:
    > I have a Dell Inspiron 1750 which drives just fine my Dell 2407 1920 X
    > 1200 monitor if I connect via the VGA socket on the laptop.
    >
    > But I want to buy a docking device, I haven't found one rated at that
    > resolution?
    >
    > [BTW if you don't know, but know of another place worth asking I would
    > be grateful to know?]


    I would think that a docking station for your Dell should putout the
    same as what the laptop puts out of the VGA output. As the laptop has
    the GPU (which determines the VGA output) and not the docking station.

    Back many years ago, docking stations also had hard drives and video
    cards. But that was like in the 90's. I don't think anybody does it that
    way anymore. I am by the way actually using a docking station with this
    computer right now. You could try asking in the Dell newsgroup and they
    would know better than I for a Dell.

    alt.sys.pc-clone.dell

    --
    Bill
    Gateway M465e ('06 era) - Windows XP SP3
     
  3. Happy Oyster

    Happy Oyster Flightless Bird

    On Wed, 05 May 2010 21:53:39 +0100, tolgan <tolgan@NOSPAMntlworld.com> wrote:

    >I have a Dell Inspiron 1750 which drives just fine my Dell 2407 1920 X
    >1200 monitor if I connect via the VGA socket on the laptop.
    >
    >But I want to buy a docking device, I haven't found one rated at that
    >resolution?
    >
    >[BTW if you don't know, but know of another place worth asking I would
    >be grateful to know?]


    I recently saw the announcement of a video box with USB as the input and VGA as
    the output connection. The resolutions I forgot. Price was about 50 Euros.

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  4. Happy Oyster

    Happy Oyster Flightless Bird

    On Thu, 06 May 2010 00:38:32 +0300, Happy Oyster <happy.oyster@ariplex.com>
    wrote:

    >I recently saw the announcement of a video box with USB as the input and VGA as
    >the output connection. The resolutions I forgot. Price was about 50 Euros.


    I found the announcement:

    http://www.golem.de/1004/74527.html

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  5. tolgan

    tolgan Flightless Bird

    Thanks guys. After more research there definitely seem to be devices
    out there that support 1920X 1200, though some only do 16 bit colour.
    As you say, you'd hope dockstation would just pass through from the
    laptop...

    Will follow up on your suggestions
     
  6. tolgan

    tolgan Flightless Bird

    On Thu, 06 May 2010 00:40:51 +0300, Happy Oyster
    <happy.oyster@ariplex.com> wrote:

    >On Thu, 06 May 2010 00:38:32 +0300, Happy Oyster <happy.oyster@ariplex.com>
    >wrote:
    >
    >>I recently saw the announcement of a video box with USB as the input and VGA as
    >>the output connection. The resolutions I forgot. Price was about 50 Euros.

    >
    >I found the announcement:
    >
    > http://www.golem.de/1004/74527.html
    >
    >.


    Looks like it can handle the video very well, but looks like it
    doesn't act as a usb hub - ie no usb out from it - so I'm not sure it
    would be much more convenient than just plugging the monitor into the
    laptop vga socket?

    Or maybe the intented use is to buy a usb hub as well, and plug the
    video box into that, then I only have one usb to plug in in order to
    dock?
     
  7. BillW50

    BillW50 Flightless Bird

    In news:eek:6nau5lmuu6qdpl64stielhi69bfhde1nd@4ax.com,
    tolgan typed on Sat, 08 May 2010 13:49:56 +0100:
    > On Thu, 06 May 2010 00:40:51 +0300, Happy Oyster
    > <happy.oyster@ariplex.com> wrote:
    >
    >> On Thu, 06 May 2010 00:38:32 +0300, Happy Oyster
    >> <happy.oyster@ariplex.com> wrote:
    >>
    >>> I recently saw the announcement of a video box with USB as the
    >>> input and VGA as the output connection. The resolutions I forgot.
    >>> Price was about 50 Euros.

    >>
    >> I found the announcement:
    >>
    >> http://www.golem.de/1004/74527.html
    >>
    >> .

    >
    > Looks like it can handle the video very well, but looks like it
    > doesn't act as a usb hub - ie no usb out from it - so I'm not sure it
    > would be much more convenient than just plugging the monitor into the
    > laptop vga socket?
    >
    > Or maybe the intented use is to buy a usb hub as well, and plug the
    > video box into that, then I only have one usb to plug in in order to
    > dock?


    Oh? That Dell Inspiron 1750 doesn't have a docking port on the bottom
    does it? Oh then all bets are off. As you are actually thinking about
    adding an universal port replicator, right? Then all of them wouldn't
    work as well as the VGA out of the laptop. Sorry I misunderstood.

    --
    Bill
    Gateway M465e ('06 era) - Windows XP SP3
     
  8. tolgan

    tolgan Flightless Bird

    On Sat, 8 May 2010 08:19:34 -0500, "BillW50" <BillW50@aol.kom> wrote:

    >In news:eek:6nau5lmuu6qdpl64stielhi69bfhde1nd@4ax.com,
    >tolgan typed on Sat, 08 May 2010 13:49:56 +0100:
    >> On Thu, 06 May 2010 00:40:51 +0300, Happy Oyster
    >> <happy.oyster@ariplex.com> wrote:
    >>
    >>> On Thu, 06 May 2010 00:38:32 +0300, Happy Oyster
    >>> <happy.oyster@ariplex.com> wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> I recently saw the announcement of a video box with USB as the
    >>>> input and VGA as the output connection. The resolutions I forgot.
    >>>> Price was about 50 Euros.
    >>>
    >>> I found the announcement:
    >>>
    >>> http://www.golem.de/1004/74527.html
    >>>
    >>> .

    >>
    >> Looks like it can handle the video very well, but looks like it
    >> doesn't act as a usb hub - ie no usb out from it - so I'm not sure it
    >> would be much more convenient than just plugging the monitor into the
    >> laptop vga socket?
    >>
    >> Or maybe the intented use is to buy a usb hub as well, and plug the
    >> video box into that, then I only have one usb to plug in in order to
    >> dock?

    >
    >Oh? That Dell Inspiron 1750 doesn't have a docking port on the bottom
    >does it? Oh then all bets are off. As you are actually thinking about
    >adding an universal port replicator, right? Then all of them wouldn't
    >work as well as the VGA out of the laptop. Sorry I misunderstood.


    I've just been told on the Dell forum that what I am looking for
    doesn't exist for nthe Inspiron series so I guess you are right. I'm
    still puzzled though, if the box you mentioned has usb in and vga out
    and supports 1920 X 1200 why wouldn't it work for me?
     
  9. Pen

    Pen Flightless Bird

    On 5/9/2010 10:43 AM, tolgan wrote:
    > On Sat, 8 May 2010 08:19:34 -0500, "BillW50" <BillW50@aol.kom> wrote:
    >
    >> In news:eek:6nau5lmuu6qdpl64stielhi69bfhde1nd@4ax.com,
    >> tolgan typed on Sat, 08 May 2010 13:49:56 +0100:
    >>> On Thu, 06 May 2010 00:40:51 +0300, Happy Oyster
    >>> <happy.oyster@ariplex.com> wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> On Thu, 06 May 2010 00:38:32 +0300, Happy Oyster
    >>>> <happy.oyster@ariplex.com> wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>> I recently saw the announcement of a video box with USB as the
    >>>>> input and VGA as the output connection. The resolutions I forgot.
    >>>>> Price was about 50 Euros.
    >>>>
    >>>> I found the announcement:
    >>>>
    >>>> http://www.golem.de/1004/74527.html
    >>>>
    >>>> .
    >>>
    >>> Looks like it can handle the video very well, but looks like it
    >>> doesn't act as a usb hub - ie no usb out from it - so I'm not sure it
    >>> would be much more convenient than just plugging the monitor into the
    >>> laptop vga socket?
    >>>
    >>> Or maybe the intented use is to buy a usb hub as well, and plug the
    >>> video box into that, then I only have one usb to plug in in order to
    >>> dock?

    >>
    >> Oh? That Dell Inspiron 1750 doesn't have a docking port on the bottom
    >> does it? Oh then all bets are off. As you are actually thinking about
    >> adding an universal port replicator, right? Then all of them wouldn't
    >> work as well as the VGA out of the laptop. Sorry I misunderstood.

    >
    > I've just been told on the Dell forum that what I am looking for
    > doesn't exist for nthe Inspiron series so I guess you are right. I'm
    > still puzzled though, if the box you mentioned has usb in and vga out
    > and supports 1920 X 1200 why wouldn't it work for me?

    The problem is that all that information has to flow down a
    USB connection. I just removed one from my wife's laptop as
    I needed to reboot her computer several times a week to keep
    it all functioning and this was with a Toshiba one, which
    was the ONLY one on Newegg that had positive user reviews.
    The bulk of what Newegg sold had mostly horror stories.
    Think about it. One USB 2.0 has to deal with supplying data
    to VGA Video, Ethernet, printers, mouse, keyboard and any
    external drives.
     
  10. BillW50

    BillW50 Flightless Bird

    In news:hs6q2c$ivf$1@news.eternal-september.org,
    Pen typed on Sun, 09 May 2010 11:06:23 -0600:
    > On 5/9/2010 10:43 AM, tolgan wrote:
    >> On Sat, 8 May 2010 08:19:34 -0500, "BillW50" <BillW50@aol.kom> wrote:
    >>
    >>> In news:eek:6nau5lmuu6qdpl64stielhi69bfhde1nd@4ax.com,
    >>> tolgan typed on Sat, 08 May 2010 13:49:56 +0100:
    >>>> On Thu, 06 May 2010 00:40:51 +0300, Happy Oyster
    >>>> <happy.oyster@ariplex.com> wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>> On Thu, 06 May 2010 00:38:32 +0300, Happy Oyster
    >>>>> <happy.oyster@ariplex.com> wrote:
    >>>>>
    >>>>>> I recently saw the announcement of a video box with USB as the
    >>>>>> input and VGA as the output connection. The resolutions I forgot.
    >>>>>> Price was about 50 Euros.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> I found the announcement:
    >>>>>
    >>>>> http://www.golem.de/1004/74527.html
    >>>>>
    >>>>> .
    >>>>
    >>>> Looks like it can handle the video very well, but looks like it
    >>>> doesn't act as a usb hub - ie no usb out from it - so I'm not sure
    >>>> it would be much more convenient than just plugging the monitor
    >>>> into the laptop vga socket?
    >>>>
    >>>> Or maybe the intented use is to buy a usb hub as well, and plug
    >>>> the video box into that, then I only have one usb to plug in in
    >>>> order to dock?
    >>>
    >>> Oh? That Dell Inspiron 1750 doesn't have a docking port on the
    >>> bottom does it? Oh then all bets are off. As you are actually
    >>> thinking about adding an universal port replicator, right? Then all
    >>> of them wouldn't work as well as the VGA out of the laptop. Sorry I
    >>> misunderstood.

    >>
    >> I've just been told on the Dell forum that what I am looking for
    >> doesn't exist for nthe Inspiron series so I guess you are right. I'm
    >> still puzzled though, if the box you mentioned has usb in and vga out
    >> and supports 1920 X 1200 why wouldn't it work for me?

    >
    > The problem is that all that information has to flow down a
    > USB connection. I just removed one from my wife's laptop as
    > I needed to reboot her computer several times a week to keep
    > it all functioning and this was with a Toshiba one, which
    > was the ONLY one on Newegg that had positive user reviews.
    > The bulk of what Newegg sold had mostly horror stories.
    > Think about it. One USB 2.0 has to deal with supplying data
    > to VGA Video, Ethernet, printers, mouse, keyboard and any
    > external drives.


    Pen is right. USB2 doesn't have the bandwidth to handle even an 800x600
    resolution at 60 fps which would yield 28.8 MHz video bandwidth. How
    they usually fake those video outputs from USB is by dropping the frame
    rate so low like 5 frames per second or something. So the video display
    ends up being very slow. Might be okay for typing text into a text
    editor or something. But not very useful for much of anything else.

    --
    Bill
    Gateway M465e ('06 era) - Windows XP SP3
     

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