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Anybody using OpenOffice 2.04 (Linux) under Xandros?

A

AJL

Flightless Bird
BillW50 <BillW50@aol.kom> wrote:

>Was Open Office pre-installed on the 2G Surf,
>or did you get it from the Asus server?


It was pre-installed.

>I found an Open Office update
>through Add/Remove, but I don't see any changes whatsoever. Even the
>version number is the same.


With Linux the same app version can be coded differently for different
OS versions. I understand the Asus Eee Xandros is even different from
the standard version. I've had some luck with apps from deb
repositories but it's hit or miss.

>I am using the same DVD recovery disc all of the time. Maybe that is the
>problem. I have other recovery disc, so maybe I should try one of those.


I would think using the recovery disk that came with that netbook
would be the best thing to try. Course you will wipe everything but
that may be less of a pain than what you're now doing.

>Good luck with Ubuntu 9.10. Hopefully you can find all of the drivers.
>For me, the WiFi and the webcam is the hardest to get working.


This installation went without a hitch on both my Acer 15" and this
Eee 10". The wireless was recognized immediately on both. They have
improved boot time to around 30 seconds. First impressions: it seems a
little faster than Vista and a little slower than XP. But it's fun to
play with and I'm only using 30GB so no big strain on the drive.
 
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BillW50

Flightless Bird
AJL wrote on Wed, 27 Jan 2010 14:33:25 -0700:
> BillW50 <BillW50@aol.kom> wrote:
>
>> Was Open Office pre-installed on the 2G Surf,
>> or did you get it from the Asus server?

>
> It was pre-installed.


Oh was it Thunderbird that you downloaded?

>> I found an Open Office update
>> through Add/Remove, but I don't see any changes whatsoever. Even the
>> version number is the same.

>
> With Linux the same app version can be coded differently for different
> OS versions. I understand the Asus Eee Xandros is even different from
> the standard version. I've had some luck with apps from deb
> repositories but it's hit or miss.


Interesting... I'd be interested in the ones that worked.

>> I am using the same DVD recovery disc all of the time. Maybe that is the
>> problem. I have other recovery disc, so maybe I should try one of those.

>
> I would think using the recovery disk that came with that netbook
> would be the best thing to try. Course you will wipe everything but
> that may be less of a pain than what you're now doing.


I tried different RAM, different SSD, and the original DVD recovery for
this machine (I really believe all 701, 702, and 900 Xandros DVD
recovery disc are all the same and other models might be as well). Used
the BIOS OS Start and Finished too. The only thing that does as far as I
can tell is to kick the USB ports down to USB1.1 speeds and kick the
webcam off. But I don't see any difference when installing an OS except
the USB ports are slower.

The webcam is said to screw up the USB ports if it is operating at
USB1.1 speeds. As it has one speed and that is USB2. Plus I can see an
OS getting confused seeing an unknown device during an install. But most
of the time, the OEM version of Windows or the Xandros install, I don't
see any reason to change it from OS finished during an install. It might
help if you use a retail version of Windows or another Linux distro.
Otherwise I don't notice any difference. The OS Start BIOS setting turns
off the webcam too. So when you change it back to OS finished, you also
need to set the webcam back to enabled.

>> Good luck with Ubuntu 9.10. Hopefully you can find all of the drivers.
>> For me, the WiFi and the webcam is the hardest to get working.

>
> This installation went without a hitch on both my Acer 15" and this
> Eee 10". The wireless was recognized immediately on both. They have
> improved boot time to around 30 seconds. First impressions: it seems a
> little faster than Vista and a little slower than XP. But it's fun to
> play with and I'm only using 30GB so no big strain on the drive.


How fast does it connect to the WiFi? As the EeePC boots up Xandros very
fast in 20 seconds in easy mode. Windows XP takes 50 seconds. Xandros in
advanced mode takes 40 seconds. But Xandros takes about 40 seconds for
the WiFi to connect. So Windows XP is faster since it only takes less
than a few seconds to connect.

--
Bill
Asus EEE PC 702G4 ~ 2GB RAM ~ 16GB-SDHC
Xandros Linux (build 2007-10-19 13:03)
 
S

S. Fishpaste

Flightless Bird
On Wed, 27 Jan 2010 15:14:37 -0600, BillW50 in comp.sys.laptops wrote:
> In news:hjq7vt$g2i$1@news.eternal-september.org,
> BillW50 typed onWed, 27 Jan 2010 14:33:54 -0600 :
>> In news:slrnhm0mno.9km.SDA@laptop.sweetpig.dyndns.org,
>> S. Fishpaste typed on Wed, 27 Jan 2010 10:25:44 -0500:
>> It is running Xandros Linux and EeePC 1.01 desktop on top of KDE. You
>> can see the KDE version only by hacking the OS to use the KDE desktop.
>> Mine has been reinstalled so I can't see it without hacking it. Maybe
>> AJL knows. He is running the same version on his Surf.
>>
>> The newest version of EeePC desktop is 1.05 I believe. And the newer
>> ones adds drive letters to Linux drives. I guess Windows users can't
>> find the drives without drive letters. Not something that I need. So I
>> have avoided upgrading the desktop.

>
> On installing it on another SSD, it says the following during the
> install:
>
> ISOLinux 3.11 2005-09-02 Copyright (C) 1994-2005 H. Peter Anvin
>
> Does that mean anything to you? Is that the Linux kernel version? And
> who is this Peter Anvin guy? Is he taking charge of the kernel for Linus
> Torvalds?


Nah. I thought you knew your away around a Linux installation. <sigh>

Why don't you use a modern Linux distro like Ubuntu? It's made for
folks like you and works on EEEPCs -- I installed it on several for
clients. Works out of the box; everything including the camera. You'll
aslo get a modern version of OOo. Xandros is a POS IMO.
 
A

AJL

Flightless Bird
BillW50 <BillW50@aol.kom> wrote:

>AJL wrote on Wed, 27 Jan 2010 14:33:25 -0700:
>> BillW50 <BillW50@aol.kom> wrote:
>>
>>> Was Open Office pre-installed on the 2G Surf,
>>> or did you get it from the Asus server?

>>
>> It was pre-installed.

>
>Oh was it Thunderbird that you downloaded?


Yes I downloaded TB. The Surf just has an email icon that opens
Firefox to the web based Gmail site. That's what you get with the
economy model.

>I'd be interested in the [downloaded to the Surf] ones that worked.


Some I remember are Sea Monkey, Wine, Kmail, Knode (posted here
several times using it), and FBReader. I finally got into trouble
after downloading an errant app and couldn't fix it so I finally had
to do the dreaded F9 reset and everything went *poof*. And after all
that work (fun?) too... It's been stock ever since.

>I really believe all 701, 702, and 900 Xandros DVD
>recovery disc are all the same and other models might be as well).


My Surf recovery disk says 2G Series Linux Recovery CD Rev 1.0 dated
11-20-07. For comparison the disk has a 'boot' and 'p701L.gz' folders
plus 3 small (0, 4, and 6 byte) files. That may be a clue as to if
they are all the same or not.

>How fast does it connect to the WiFi?


My Eee PC Surf netbook WiFi is very slow. It boots in 25 seconds but
there is another 30 seconds or so after that before the wireless
connects.

My Eee PC 1000HD netbook:
XP: Boots in 35 seconds wireless 5 seconds later.
Ubuntu: Boots in 30 second wireless already accessed when desktop
chimes occur.

My Acer 5516 Notebook:
Vista: Boots in 55 seconds wireless working 5 seconds later although
the icon still shows it disconnected. The icon doesn't update until
several seconds later, one of those weird Vista things I guess.
Ubuntu: Boots in 35 seconds and wireless also immediate like on the
1000HD.

(I have my Grub bootloader set at 5 seconds but that's not included in
the above times.)

BTW The OpenOffice on Ubuntu 9.10 is version 3.1 and the spell checker
works... ;)
 
F

felmon

Flightless Bird
On Wed, 27 Jan 2010 09:56:09 -0600, BillW50 wrote:

>> Okay now downloading the deb version of OpenOffice. Site still doesn't
>> like IE7 for downloading. While Firefox is still working okay with it.

>
> Same thing.
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> dirname: extra operand `Documents/OO/update' Try `dirname --help' for
> more information.


sorry but I am not sure what this all refers to.

one method is: you download the .deb file first, then go to the
commandline and do

sudo dpkg -i file.deb

is this the point where you are getting the errors? (sorry, I may have
missed a stretch of the thread.)


Felmon
 
S

S. Fishpaste

Flightless Bird
I should have mentioned that the installations of Ubuntu that I've
done on the ASUS netbooks, boot-up into GUI in about 5 seconds. Very
fast wireless as well.
 
B

BillW50

Flightless Bird
felmon wrote on Thu, 28 Jan 2010 10:45:36 -0600:
> On Wed, 27 Jan 2010 09:56:09 -0600, BillW50 wrote:
>
>>> Okay now downloading the deb version of OpenOffice. Site still doesn't
>>> like IE7 for downloading. While Firefox is still working okay with it.

>> Same thing.
>>
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>
>> dirname: extra operand `Documents/OO/update' Try `dirname --help' for
>> more information.

>
> sorry but I am not sure what this all refers to.
>
> one method is: you download the .deb file first, then go to the
> commandline and do
>
> sudo dpkg -i file.deb
>
> is this the point where you are getting the errors? (sorry, I may have
> missed a stretch of the thread.)


Hi Felmon! No I didn't try that. I'm going to try that now. How I did
it, was I extracted the package and ran the script called update which
looks like this:

#!/bin/sh

GNOMEXCMDS="/usr/bin/gksu"
GNOMECMDS="/usr/bin/gnome-terminal /opt/gnome/bin/gnome-terminal"
KDEXCMDS="/usr/bin/kdesu /opt/kde/bin/kdesu /opt/kde?/bin/kdesu"
KDECMDS="/usr/bin/konsole /opt/kde/bin/konsole /opt/kde?/bin/konsole"
MISCCMDS="/usr/bin/x-terminal-emulator /usr/X11/bin/xterm
/usr/openwin/bin/xterm"

TITLE='OpenOffice.org update'

#
# Usage
#

Usage () {
if [ "`basename $0`" = "update" ]; then
echo "Usage: `basename $0` [<path to OpenOffice.org installation>]"
fi
echo
exit 2
}

make_tempfile() {

# Always prefer mktemp when available
if [ -x "$MKTEMP" ]; then
"$MKTEMP" "/tmp/$1.XXXXXX"
else
TMPCMD="/tmp/$1.$$"
touch $TMPCMD
echo $TMPCMD
fi

}

#
# make_command_file - generate a command file to pass to xterm & co
#
run_in_terminal () {

TMPCMD=`make_tempfile 'OpenOffice.org-Online-Update'`

cat >> $TMPCMD

cat >> $TMPCMD << \EOF
if [ $? -eq 0 -a ! -z "$DISPLAY" ]; then
echo
echo "Press <Enter> to close this window"
read DUMMY
fi
EOF

cat >> $TMPCMD << EOF
rm -f $TMPCMD
EOF

chmod a+x $TMPCMD
exec "$@" -e $TMPCMD
}

#
# run the command line passed as positional parameters either via
# gksu/kdesu or via su command in a terminal emulator.
#
elevate() {

TITLEOPT=""
GEOMOPT=""
case `basename $XTERM` in
"xterm")
TITLEOPT="-title"
GEOMOPT="-geometry "
;;
"gnome-terminal" | "konsole" | "x-terminal-emulator")
TITLEOPT="--title"
GEOMOPT="--geometry="
;;
esac

case `basename $SU` in
"kdesu" )
# --caption
SUOPT="-t"
;;
"gksu" )
# --title
SUOPT=""
;;
"su" )
SUOPT="- root -c"
;;
esac

( echo "echo The application \"$@\" will update your OpenOffice.org
installation."
echo "echo"
echo "$SU" "$SUOPT" "$@"
) | run_in_terminal "$XTERM" "$TITLEOPT" "$TITLE" ${GEOMOPT}+300+300
}


update_pkg() {
ADMINFILE=`make_tempfile 'OpenOffice.org-Online-Update-admin'`

cat >> $ADMINFILE << EOF
action=nocheck
conflict=nocheck
setuid=nocheck
idepend=nocheck
rdepend=nocheck
mail=
EOF

PKGLIST=""
for i in `cd $1; ls -d *`; do
pkginfo -q $i && PKGLIST="$PKGLIST $i"
done

pkgrm -n -a $ADMINFILE $PKGLIST
pkgadd -n -a $ADMINFILE -d $1 $PKGLIST

rm -f $ADMINFILE
}

#
# main
#

CMD="`basename $0`"
BASEDIR="`dirname $0`"
ABSBASEDIR="`cd $BASEDIR; pwd`"

if [ -z "$DISPLAY" ]; then
SU="su"
XTERM=""
else
# define search order depending on the desktop in use ..
if [ "`uname -s`" = "SunOS" ]; then
XPROP=/usr/openwin/bin/xprop
GREP=/usr/xpg4/bin/grep
MKTEMP=/usr/bin/mktemp
else
if [ -x /usr/X11/bin/xprop ]; then
XPROP=/usr/X11/bin/xprop
else
XPROP=/usr/bin/xprop
fi
GREP=grep
MKTEMP=/bin/mktemp
fi

# use desktop specific tools where possible, but prefer X11 su over
terminal emulators
if $XPROP -root | $GREP -q '^KWIN_RUNNING'; then
SULIST="$KDEXCMDS $GNOMEXCMDS"
XTERMLIST="$KDECMDS $MISCCMDS"
else
SULIST="$GNOMEXCMDS $KDEXCMDS"
XTERMLIST="$GNOMECMDS $MISCCMDS"
fi

# search for the first available terminal emulator
for i in $XTERMLIST; do
if [ -x $i ]; then
XTERM=$i
break
fi
done

# we prefer gksu or kdesu if available
SU="su"
for i in $SULIST; do
if [ -x $i ]; then
SU=$i
break
fi
done
fi

if [ "$CMD" = "update" ]; then
if [ $# -gt 0 ]; then
[ -d $1 -a $# -eq 1 ] || Usage
elevate "$ABSBASEDIR/$CMD"
else
if [ -d "$BASEDIR/RPMS" ]; then
# do not use --hash as the control sequence to edit the current
line does not work
# in our setup (at least not with kdesu)
rpm -v --freshen `find "$BASEDIR"/RPMS -name '*.rpm'`
elif [ -d "$BASEDIR/DEBS" ]; then
dpkg --install --selected-only --recursive "$BASEDIR"/DEBS
elif [ -d "$BASEDIR/packages" ]; then
update_pkg "$BASEDIR/packages"
fi
fi
else
Usage
fi

--
Bill
Asus EEE PC 702G4 ~ 2GB RAM ~ 16GB-SDHC
Xandros Linux (build 2007-10-19 13:03)
 
B

BillW50

Flightless Bird
felmon wrote:
> one method is: you download the .deb file first, then go to the
> commandline and do
>
> sudo dpkg -i file.deb
>
> is this the point where you are getting the errors? (sorry, I may have
> missed a stretch of the thread.)


Okay the package is called
"OOo_3.1.1_LinuxIntel_install_en-US_deb.tar.gz". And that is too long to
type so I renamed it to "OOdeb.tar.gz". Then I ran:

sudo dpkg -i OOdeb.tar.gz

And deb reported the following:

/home/user/My Documents/OO> sudo dpkg -i OOdeb.tar.gz
dpkg-deb: `OOdeb.tar.gz' is not a debian format archive
dpkg: error processing OOdeb.tar.gz (--install):
subprocess dpkg-deb --control returned error exit status 2
Errors were encountered while processing:
OOdeb.tar.gz

--
Bill
Asus EEE PC 702G4 ~ 2GB RAM ~ 16GB-SDHC
Xandros Linux (build 2007-10-19 13:03)
 
T

the wharf rat

Flightless Bird
In article <hjshvu$9qo$1@news.eternal-september.org>,
BillW50 <BillW50@aol.kom> wrote:
>
>sudo dpkg -i OOdeb.tar.gz


Try

tar xvzf OOdeb.tar.gz

Then install the .deb file it writes.
 
B

BillW50

Flightless Bird
In news:hjspvh$rn1$1@reader1.panix.com,
the wharf rat typed on Thu, 28 Jan 2010 19:53:21 +0000 (UTC):
> In article <hjshvu$9qo$1@news.eternal-september.org>,
> BillW50 <BillW50@aol.kom> wrote:
>>
>> sudo dpkg -i OOdeb.tar.gz

>
> Try
>
> tar xvzf OOdeb.tar.gz
>
> Then install the .deb file it writes.


That unpacks them. But double clicking on the file in the File Manager
does the same thing. Just like double clicking on a ZIP file in Windows.
And I can drag them wherever I want. Although there is one folder with
three folders inside of it and one script file called update. This is
the script I tried to run. One of the folders is called DEBS and has 49
DEB files in there. And one subfolder with another DEB file in there.

So what you are saying is that I have to "sudo dpkg -i" all 50 of them?
That would take a day and half to do them all. And do they have to use
like 50 characters per DEB file? If so, this is insane!

--
Bill
Gateway M465e ('06 era) - Windows XP SP3
 
T

the wharf rat

Flightless Bird
In article <hjsst1$gl3$1@news.eternal-september.org>,
BillW50 <BillW50@aol.kom> wrote:
>
>So what you are saying is that I have to "sudo dpkg -i" all 50 of them?


From the FM:

1. Remove all the packages from the installed version
Go to Synaptic or your package manager and mark all the openoffice.org packages installed to be removed (there is the string ubuntu in their version number). This is mandatory for your first upgrade of the distro delivered OOo version, no need to do that for the following upgrades.

2. Download the tarball (.tar.gz file) from the official OOo web site

3. Extract the tarball in your home directory (or any other directory you want)

tar -vxzf filename

You should see a new folder, say OOo_inst_folder.
Example (for 2.4.0): OOo_inst_folder = OOH680_m12_native_packed-1_en-US.9286

4. Install the created .debs

cd OOo_inst_folder/DEBS
sudo dpkg -i *.deb


5. Update the Applications menu
Go to the desktop integration subfolder.

cd desktop-integration


Run again the previous installation command.

sudo dpkg -i *.deb
 
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BillW50

Flightless Bird
In news:slrnhm1lqa.72t.SDA@laptop.sweetpig.dyndns.org,
S. Fishpaste typed on Wed, 27 Jan 2010 19:16:10 -0500:
> Why don't you use a modern Linux distro like Ubuntu? It's made for
> folks like you and works on EEEPCs -- I installed it on several for
> clients. Works out of the box; everything including the camera. You'll
> aslo get a modern version of OOo. Xandros is a POS IMO.


Tried Ubuntu years ago and it never even loaded on any computer I ever
tried. I still have the CD and I believe it never worked because the CD
was corrupt.

Tried it last year by putting Linux 8.04 Live on a flash drive and
booted it up on a Windows XP EeePC and it booted fine. I don't think the
wireless worked. And worse, it toasted the Windows install. Oh Windows
still worked if I used a boot disc and renamed iband.dll to something
else. Otherwise Windows would hang on boot with a Windows Installer box
frozen on the screen.

Yes I know, Live versions doesn't harm anything on your other drive.
Well sorry to tell everybody, but that isn't so. I even tried it two
more times to make sure it was Ubuntu that was doing this. And sure
enough it was. So I won't even let Ubuntu near any Windows machine,
ever!

I did the same with Puppy Linux and that doesn't harm Windows at all
running from a flash. Although Puppy Linux also doesn't work with the
wireless and it cranks up the brightness to max! I need a welder's
shield just to see the screen. I can adjust it down once it is booted.
But why is it touching the brightness in the first place? And why the
need for the high beam headlights? Was one of the programmers legally
blind?

And to be honest, I get along just fine with other OS like RT-11, CP/M,
DOS, CBM-DOS, GEOS, Windows, etc. But Unix and Linux has never been a
fun experience for me, sorry to say. And being a programmer in the past,
I see Linux and applications for Linux so poorly written. So that isn't
helping much either.

And I don't see the big plus for open source either. As everybody has
their own method and style of programming. It is like having too many
cooks in the kitchen. And mix them altogether and all you will produce
is a piece of crap that should have never seen the light of day in the
first place. :-(

--
Bill
Gateway M465e ('06 era) - Windows XP SP3
 
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BillW50

Flightless Bird
In news:hjsurv$jvi$1@reader1.panix.com,
the wharf rat typed on Thu, 28 Jan 2010 21:16:47 +0000 (UTC):
> In article <hjsst1$gl3$1@news.eternal-september.org>,
> BillW50 <BillW50@aol.kom> wrote:
>>
>> So what you are saying is that I have to "sudo dpkg -i" all 50 of
>> them?

>
> From the FM:


Where did you find the friggin manual?

> 1. Remove all the packages from the installed version
> Go to Synaptic or your package manager and mark all the
> openoffice.org packages installed to be removed (there is the string
> ubuntu in their version number). This is mandatory for your first
> upgrade of the distro delivered OOo version, no need to do that for
> the following upgrades.


Big problem right here! The distro that comes with the EeePC prevents
the user from uninstalling anything pre-installed. You can only remove
what you have added.

The OpenOffice readme says that it is usually best to remove the
pre-installed OpenOffice. But it also states that in some cases
(hopefully like mine) that you can have both installed.

> 2. Download the tarball (.tar.gz file) from the official OOo web site
>
> 3. Extract the tarball in your home directory (or any other directory
> you want)
>
> tar -vxzf filename
>
> You should see a new folder, say OOo_inst_folder.
> Example (for 2.4.0): OOo_inst_folder =
> OOH680_m12_native_packed-1_en-US.9286


I already have the "OOo_3.1.1_LinuxIntel_install_en-US_deb.tar.gz" file.
And these are called tarball file(s)? And I have no problem unpacking
them.

> 4. Install the created .debs
>
> cd OOo_inst_folder/DEBS
> sudo dpkg -i *.deb


This is the piece I was looking for. As that is what makes this all much
easier and saves me a day and a half from doing them individually.

> 5. Update the Applications menu
> Go to the desktop integration subfolder.
>
> cd desktop-integration
>
>
> Run again the previous installation command.
>
> sudo dpkg -i *.deb


Okay that adds it to the full desktop that Asus calls Advanced mode. One
has to do some editing to get the machine to boot there. And if I use
Easy Mode (a tabbed desktop), I will need to find how to add it there.
Or I should be able to launch it from the terminal window, right?

--
Bill
Gateway M465e ('06 era) - Windows XP SP3
 
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the wharf rat

Flightless Bird
In article <hjt3lt$g2g$1@news.eternal-september.org>,
BillW50 <BillW50@aol.kom> wrote:
>
>Where did you find the friggin manual?
>

I googled "install openoffice linux"

>
>Big problem right here! The distro that comes with the EeePC prevents
>the user from uninstalling anything pre-installed. You can only remove
>what you have added.


You can install to a non-default directory and have both, or you
can install a better Linux distribution on the PC.

>Or I should be able to launch it from the terminal window, right?


do all these steps from shell.
 
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the wharf rat

Flightless Bird
In article <hjt1em$sc1$1@news.eternal-september.org>,
BillW50 <BillW50@aol.kom> wrote:
>
>Tried Ubuntu years ago and it never even loaded on any computer I ever


Try something more stadard like CentOS.
 
A

AJL

Flightless Bird
"BillW50" <BillW50@aol.kom> wrote:

>The distro that comes with the EeePC prevents
>the user from uninstalling anything pre-installed. You can only remove
>what you have added.


That's because of the Eee's weird system of having two identical
partitions mounted on top of one another, one being read only. It's
all explained here with instructions on how to remove it. I still
think it would be easier for you just to install the latest version of
Ubuntu. It's sure working great on my Eee...

http://wiki.eeeuser.com/howto:removeunionfs
 
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BillW50

Flightless Bird
In news:eeg4m51c99ddopehe7ff6ahvbr8ve62jb4@4ax.com,
AJL typed on Thu, 28 Jan 2010 19:12:57 -0700:
> "BillW50" <BillW50@aol.kom> wrote:
>
>> The distro that comes with the EeePC prevents
>> the user from uninstalling anything pre-installed. You can only
>> remove what you have added.

>
> That's because of the Eee's weird system of having two identical
> partitions mounted on top of one another, one being read only. It's
> all explained here with instructions on how to remove it. I still
> think it would be easier for you just to install the latest version of
> Ubuntu. It's sure working great on my Eee...
>
> http://wiki.eeeuser.com/howto:removeunionfs


Yes I remember. And downloading another Ubuntu version for like the 4th
time in all of these years. I am sure I'll regret it like all of the
other times. :-(

--
Bill
Gateway M465e ('06 era) - Windows XP SP3
 
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BillW50

Flightless Bird
In news:hjt7nn$d93$2@reader1.panix.com,
the wharf rat typed on Thu, 28 Jan 2010 23:48:07 +0000 (UTC):
> In article <hjt1em$sc1$1@news.eternal-september.org>,
> BillW50 <BillW50@aol.kom> wrote:
>>
>> Tried Ubuntu years ago and it never even loaded on any computer I
>> ever

>
> Try something more stadard like CentOS.


That's just a stripped down free RedHat version.

--
Bill
Gateway M465e ('06 era) - Windows XP SP3
 
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BillW50

Flightless Bird
In news:hjt7lo$d93$1@reader1.panix.com,
the wharf rat typed on Thu, 28 Jan 2010 23:47:04 +0000 (UTC):
> In article <hjt3lt$g2g$1@news.eternal-september.org>,
> BillW50 <BillW50@aol.kom> wrote:
>>
>> Where did you find the friggin manual?
>>

> I googled "install openoffice linux"


Good thinking. ;-) Although you would think it would be part of the DEB
package.

>> Big problem right here! The distro that comes with the EeePC prevents
>> the user from uninstalling anything pre-installed. You can only
>> remove what you have added.

>
> You can install to a non-default directory and have both, or you
> can install a better Linux distribution on the PC.


Done. Can't launch it though. And OO 2.04 still loads with data files
associated with it.

>> Or I should be able to launch it from the terminal window, right?

>
> do all these steps from shell.


Well you don't really have too, but okay.

I think I found out why the spell checker isn't working for 2.04. As it
appears you need to select a language first before it will work. And
Asus, only included Chinese. :-(

--
Bill
Gateway M465e ('06 era) - Windows XP SP3
 
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AJL

Flightless Bird
"BillW50" <BillW50@aol.kom> wrote:

>downloading another Ubuntu version for like the 4th
>time in all of these years. I am sure I'll regret it like all of the
>other times. :-(


This is the first Ubuntu version (9.10) that has worked flawlessly.
I've not had the nightmares you've had in the past but previous
versions have always had wireless and display troubles for me. So far
there has not been one glitch with this version. I've downloaded tens
of programs and they all have worked. Ubuntu understands NTFS so even
though it has it's own little partition I can still use the whole
windows partition for storage. Better than that I can run windows
programs (like this newsreader) from the windows partition without
having to move them using Wine. I've lost nothing from my Windows OS
on the two laptops I've tried this on, but gained thousands of
available Linux only apps...like OpenOffice.... ;)
 
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